Re: Creating Activities does not work anymore

2013-04-14 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday April 14, 2013 10:16:47 Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Hi Diane,
> 
> that is exactly, what I do, except that the "Looked at empty desktop" does
> not happen.
> 
> Here are the .xsession-errors which showed up during this process...quite a
> number of them, but I do not really understand what they mean.
> 
> ActivityManager::focusInEvent()
> ControllerWindow::resizeEvent QSize(-1, -1)
> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
> ...
> ...
> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
> QPainter::setCompositionMode: Painter not active
> QPainter::end: Painter not active, aborted
> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
> QPainter::setCompositionMode: Painter not active
> QPainter::end: Painter not active, aborted
> QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
> QPainter::setCompositionMode: Painter not active
> QPainter::end: Painter not active, aborted
> 
> Thanks,
> Rainer
I'm running KDE 4.10.2 from experimental, and I too am able to create 
activities. In the process, I did think for a second that the activity manager 
had crashed, but then the new activity appeared.

Sincerely,

Beojan Stanislaus


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Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Saturday April 06, 2013 12:07:57 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Friday 05 April 2013 08:42:54 Sune Vuorela wrote:
> > On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald  wrote:
> > > What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page:
> > Some people thinks experimental is hard. Other people dislike doing the
> > copyright-documentation that is required for the official archive. And
> > qt-kde.d.n also could allow people who isn't a DD/DM to put packages
> > there.
> 
> Well, qt-kde.d.n as distribution channel has probably outlived its purpose
> even if it can still be useful sometimes.
> 
> The rest of the mail will be a bit OT for this list, however, in my opinion,
> users might still be interested what some of the challenges are with KDE
> packaging. Actually, these are the main things which turn (have turned) me
> off from KDE packaging these days.
> 
> IMO, it is very complicated to maintain anything that is more like 5-10
> highly coupled source packages in Debian. You have to spend so much time on
> internal development infrastructure (constantly) that little time (or
> motivation) remains to do actual packaging changes. And as far as I know,
> KDE approaches 100 source packages, so do the math (funtunately, the number
> of core packages is low). Especially, it is very expensive (in terms of
> both time and knowledge required) to start KDE packaging for the first time
> or "resume" work after longer time of inactivity.
> 
> I wish there was some "Continuous integration" for KDE packaging which took
> the load of:
> 
> * Package building and dependency management.
> * Package uploading to development repository for testing.
> * Automatted Lintian reports and other Q/A.
> * Any other repetitive, boring but useful tasks.
> 
Isn't this essentially what Kubuntu's Project Neon is (perhaps was, I'm not 
sure)?  It means packaging git trunk rather than just tarballs, but that is 
probably a good thing.
Sincerely,

Beojan Stanislaus


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Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 18:29:35 Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> I prefer something in between. Stable core (I couldn't care less which
> version of glibc is there,  as long as it works) but with latest killer
> features for Home users.
Then use Arch or Ubuntu or OpenSuSE.
> And copying files to/from smartphone counts as a killer feature.
> 
> Long-term problem :
> There must be easy way to add killer features post release.
> Example : WebM codec is super easy to install on Windows XP. Updating it's
> Media Player to v11 also gives you MTP support.
> 
> On Debian (and other Linuxes) adding major features post release is
> extremely difficult. Even with debian-backports repo I had to jump through
> hoops to get WebM video working on Debian 6.0 "squeeze". (due to long chain
> of interconnected dependencies)
Squeeze has very old versions of software. If you want the latest features on 
Debian, use Sid, perhaps with some packages from experimental. It will 
probably break sometime though, so you need to be able to fix it. 
Personally, I run Debian Sid, with KDE from experimental-snapshots, calligra, 
amarok, kdevelop, apper, freetype from development sources, and KDEPIM 4.10 
and Qt 4.8.4 from released sources. However I do this knowing that any of 
these could easily break with an update, or it could turn out that I need 
newer versions of libraries than that available in repos.

If you're not willing to do this, (K)ubuntu or arch or another similar distro 
that is released often, and aimed at consumers, may be a better option for 
you.
> 
> For now it would be best to somehow include MTP before Debian 7 release.
> 
You may be able to compile the necessary bits of KDE 4.10 from source 
yourself. This may require installing versions of libraries not available in 
squeeze from source.
> -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
> Sent from Galaxy S III
Sincerely,

Beojan Stanislaus


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Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 17:33:05 Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> History:
> USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed
> to replace the USB Mass Storage.
> 
> Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is
> block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power down (or blue
> screen, on certain O.S) the data on the smartphone will be damaged,
> and there is no "scandisk" on the smartphone, so it will become
> unreadable.
> MTP overcomes this problem by being filesystem level protocol (as
> opposed to block device), and is supported since Windows
> hasta-la-Vista. (since 2006)
> 
> The result:
> Google decided to remove USB Mass Storage from Android 4.x devices.
> Newer Android devices support MTP-only.
Debian stable is designed to prioritize stability first, at the expense of 
having the latest packages and supporting the latest technologies. It's not 
designed for home users who need their computer to work with the phone or 
tablet du jour, but to cater to those who can't afford bugs or crashes (e.g. 
servers or public kiosks).

If the most important thing to you is to have the latest software, you may be 
better off with Arch or aptosid (based on debian sid), which are focused at 
home users who want the latest software. You could also try Debian testing, 
which will likely get the latest KDE SC release once Wheezy is released, but 
it isn't officially supported, and could break.

Also, it's Debian. not Deebian.



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Re: Graphics System raster does not work

2012-01-16 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Monday 16 January 2012 15:26:23 Beojan Stanislaus wrote:
> On Sunday 15 January 2012 12:04:48 Beojan Stanislaus wrote:
> > I upgraded Qt to 4.8.0 from experimental, and found that applications
> > using the raster graphics system (e.g. Klickety) failed to render
> > correctly, and printed large numbers of BadDrawable X errors when
> > started from Konsole.
> > 
> > I then downgraded to Qt 4.7.4 again, and found that this problem
> > persisted.
> > 
> > In addition, with Qt 4.8.0, font rendering is much worse than before, and
> > KDM crashes upon starting, but these problems disappeared again after
> > downgrading.
> 
> I have tried booting with KMS off, forcing the software mesa driver, and I
> still get the BadDrawable errors
> 
> NB: These errors are appearing with Qt 4.7.4 after downgrading from Qt
> 4.8.0. This timing may be a coincidence.
The problem has cleared up upon switching to the 3.2.0-rc7 kernel, leading me 
to believe the bug was likely in the linux-next kernel


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Re: Graphics System raster does not work

2012-01-16 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 15 January 2012 12:04:48 Beojan Stanislaus wrote:
> I upgraded Qt to 4.8.0 from experimental, and found that applications using
> the raster graphics system (e.g. Klickety) failed to render correctly, and
> printed large numbers of BadDrawable X errors when started from Konsole.
> 
> I then downgraded to Qt 4.7.4 again, and found that this problem persisted.
> 
> In addition, with Qt 4.8.0, font rendering is much worse than before, and
> KDM crashes upon starting, but these problems disappeared again after
> downgrading.
I have tried booting with KMS off, forcing the software mesa driver, and I 
still get the BadDrawable errors

NB: These errors are appearing with Qt 4.7.4 after downgrading from Qt 4.8.0. 
This timing may be a coincidence.


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Re: Graphics System raster does not work

2012-01-15 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 15 January 2012 16:47:03 Josep Febrer wrote:
> A Diumenge, 15 de gener de 2012 13:04:48, Beojan Stanislaus va escriure:
> > I upgraded Qt to 4.8.0 from experimental, and found that applications
> > using the raster graphics system (e.g. Klickety) failed to render
> > correctly, and printed large numbers of BadDrawable X errors when
> > started from Konsole.
> > 
> > I then downgraded to Qt 4.7.4 again, and found that this problem
> > persisted.
> > 
> > In addition, with Qt 4.8.0, font rendering is much worse than before, and
> > KDM crashes upon starting, but these problems disappeared again after
> > downgrading.
> 
> I'm also unsig Qt 4.8.0 from experimental and I don't have any of those
> problems you mentioned.
> I'm using Intel graphics driver on a SandyBridge processor.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Josep

I'm using the ATI KMS driver on radeon HD4200 (mobile)


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Graphics System raster does not work

2012-01-15 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
I upgraded Qt to 4.8.0 from experimental, and found that applications using 
the raster graphics system (e.g. Klickety) failed to render correctly, and 
printed large numbers of BadDrawable X errors when started from Konsole.

I then downgraded to Qt 4.7.4 again, and found that this problem persisted.

In addition, with Qt 4.8.0, font rendering is much worse than before, and KDM 
crashes upon starting, but these problems disappeared again after downgrading.


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Re: Problem adding a second launcher to the panel

2012-01-04 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 13:16:42 Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On Squeeze I'd like to add a second instance of the Application Launcher
> Menu that just consists of entries from a subdirectory on the default
> Application Launcher Menu.
> 
> The standard Application Launcher Menu is not set to Kickoff Menu Style.
> 
> 1. Unlock Widgets
> 2. Navigate the default Application Launcher Menu to the Internet
> directory, and then to the custom directory below it called "Remote".
> 3. Right-click on the "Remote" entry and select "Add to Panel" from the
> drop-down menu.
> A new instance of an Application Launcher Menu then appears on the Panel.
> 
> All good so far - and the second instance of the Application Launcher
> Menu has the icon from the "Remote" directory, and is not in Kickoff
> Menu Style.
> 
> Problem A - apart from the icon and location, the second Application
> Launcher Menu is identical to the first - instead of just being the
> subdirectory of Internet.[*1]
> 
> Problem B - editing the second Application Launcher Menu results in
> changes to both menus... I want to keep the original, full, Application
> Launcher Menu *and* have a different, second, Application Launcher Menu
> that displays a subset of the first menu.
> 
> 
> I've tried other launchers - but couldn't work out how to add them to
> the menu, and they didn't have the functionality or the layout I wanted.
> 
> All that's desired is a simple laucher consisting of a single menu with
> half a dozen entries for various remote sessions (vpn, ssh, rdp, vnc etc).
> 
> Adding those entries to the Panel is not an option as the Panel is
> already filled with the most commonly used Applications.
> 
> I don't want things on the "desktop" - it's something I expect to see
> only briefly when starting the first application in an Activity.
> 

I think you can just add a folder view to the panel, pointing to a folder 
containing links to those sessions.

If you are looking for a second menu containing an entire subdirectory of the 
main menu, you can do that with lancelot by dragging the subdirectory to the 
panel from lancelot, and selecting shelf.


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Re: KDE4.6.3: Plasma panels settings mangled after restarting

2011-06-10 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Friday 10 June 2011 18:52:29 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag, 10. Juni 2011 schrieb Andrej Kacian:
> > Hello all,
> 
> Hi Andrej,
> 
> > I have recently upgraded to KDE 4.6 on wheezy, and I'm pleasantly
> > surprised at how much faster and less buggy the environment is.
> > 
> > However, among few bugs which annoy me is that after I set up my panels
> > the way I want them, KDE keeps changing their position and settings
> > after I log out and log back in.
> > 
> > State after login just now: http://bayimg.com/DaiPIAadi
> > 
> > The way it was before: http://bayimg.com/DAiPjAAdI
> > (the bottom bar is aligned to the left, wide only for the three icons
> > and set to autohide, so it's not visible)
> 
> I have then the main panel in the middle of the screens once, too. But
> usually KDE 4.6.3 seems to remember stuff quite good. Except that when I
> play a game in full screen mode the active window on each activity gets
> maximized.
> 
> Especially Plasma applets tend to remember where I put them now.
> 
> > Is there anything I can do to make this stop (apart from filing a bug)
> > ?
> 
> I think, filing the bug on http://bugs.kde.org (not a debian bug or not
> primarily at least) is the only way to possibly get something done about
> it.
> 
> Ciao,
I get this bug too, and since kde won't logout for some reason (clicking 
logout does nothing), it appears the panel position doesn't get saved properly 
when I move it back where it should be.


X segfaults upon logout from KDE 4.6

2011-04-30 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
X segfaults whenever I logout from KDE.
This does not happen when logging out from icewm.



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[65.124] (II) Lo

Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 27 March 2011 13:59:46 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On sekmadienis 27 Kovas 2011 13:14:24 Igor Sheykin wrote:
> > I think this question is very popular in the last few weeks.
> > Nevertheless, "When would be KDE 4.6.x added to debian repos?",
> > or it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
> > debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
> > What are the reasons why there are no new versions of KDE4 ?
> 
> KDE SC 4.6.1 -> http://qt-kde.debian.net/ (ETA a few days). This time new
> KDE will not conflict with most third-party applications (e.g. ktorrent,
> kdiff3 etc.) from official archive (however there might be a few crashes,
> not sure yet).
> 
> Official archive will get KDE SC 4.6.2 or later.
> 
> P.S. Upgrade will not be very smooth for semiofficial KDE SC 4.5.1/4.5.3
> users. Some more advanced apt/aptitude/dpkg experience might be needed. Be
> prepared.

What I don't understand is the reason why the same packaging (as for 4.5.1) 
can't be used (simply updating the version numbers, and uploaders field, and 
such things). Is there a big change in dependancies, or how KDE is compiled, 
of something of that sort?


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Re: Qt4.7 and KDE 4.4

2010-09-26 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 26 Sep 2010 18:42:09 Michael Thaler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> has anyone tried to run KDE 4.4 with Qt 4.7 from experimental? Is this
> going to work? I would like to experiment a bit with the new Qt 4.7, but I
> don't want to update KDE to 4.5 right now.
> 
> Greetings,
> Michael
Yes, I've tried it and it works.
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Re: PolicyKit Authorization (System Settings) crashes every time

2010-03-07 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 07 March 2010 22:46:56 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On pirmadienis 08 Kovas 2010 00:43:13 Beojan Stanislaus wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 March 2010 20:26:29 Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > > On 2010-03-07 George Kiagiadakis wrote:
> > > > > I now have KDE 4.4.1, but I don't have a PolicyKit Authorization
> > > > > module at all anymore. Is that meant to be, or is there sth wrong
> > > > > with my system?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, that module is gone in 4.4. It will re-appear again in 4.5 when
> > > > it will have been ported to polkit-1.
> > > 
> > > OK, pity but understandable.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the info
> > 
> > svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/base/polkit-kde-1
> > will get you the polkit-kde module
> > compile by cd'ing into the directory, then
> > mkdir build
> > cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .. && make && make install
> > You will need to have polkit-1, and all of it's development packages, and
> > polkit-qt-1 installed before.
> 
> That package is in NEW [1].
> 
> 1. http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/polkit-kde-1_0.95.1-1.html
quick!
I've had it installed from svn since 4.3, along with kpackagekit.


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Re: PolicyKit Authorization (System Settings) crashes every time

2010-03-07 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 07 March 2010 20:26:29 Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On 2010-03-07 George Kiagiadakis wrote:
> > > I now have KDE 4.4.1, but I don't have a PolicyKit Authorization module
> > > at all anymore. Is that meant to be, or is there sth wrong with my
> > > system?
> > 
> > Yes, that module is gone in 4.4. It will re-appear again in 4.5 when
> > it will have been ported to polkit-1.
> 
> OK, pity but understandable.
> 
> Thanks for the info
svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/base/polkit-kde-1
will get you the polkit-kde module
compile by cd'ing into the directory, then
mkdir build
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .. && make && make install
You will need to have polkit-1, and all of it's development packages, and 
polkit-qt-1 installed before.


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Re: Semi-official KDE SC 4.4.1 available (external repository)

2010-03-05 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Friday 05 March 2010 08:36:47 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag 05 März 2010 schrieb Andreas Bourges:
> > Hi,
> >
> > ...had to change the repo:
> >
> >
> > deb http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian exp-snapshots main
> > deb-src http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian exp-snapshots main
> >
> > looks better now.
> 
> Thanks. Thats much better than my wget approach ;-).
> 
> It doesn't seem to want to remove digikam, just keep the libraries
> 
> libkdcraw7
> libkipi6
> 
> at their currently installed versions.
> 
> So maybe no need to rebuild Digikam. And Amarok also appears to be still
> there. Let's see. ;-)
> 
> Ciao,
> 
No, it does remove libkdcraw7 for libkdcraw8, and in the process removes 
digikam and kipi-plugins (aptitude broken package resolution)


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kdm asks me to login twice

2009-12-30 Thread Beojan Stanislaus



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From: "Beojan Stanislaus" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:51 PM
To: "Cassiano Leal" 
Subject: Re: SPOOFED: kdm asks me to login twice




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From: "Cassiano Leal" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:04 PM
To: 
Subject: SPOOFED: kdm asks me to login twice


Hi,

I am facing this strange issue since some update (not sure when it
began happening as I don't alwayes reboot my machine).

At every boot I am greeted with the kdm login screen. I enter my
password and then kdm wants me to login again. Once I have logged in
twice, I get to my desktop.

After that, when I tell KDE to shutdown the machine, what do I see?
kdm again. Then, if I shutdown from this kdm it works.

Anyone else experiencing this? Where should I look for a solution? I
am clueless.

Thanks very much,
Cassiano Leal


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I have the same problem, but if I or another user is logged in on a VT, 
when I shutdown, I am asked if I wish to log them off as well, and if I 
click OK, the system will shutdown The startup login twice problem is 
exactly the same for me, and it;s been happening since I upgraded to kde 
sc 4.3.4


Sorry, accidentally replied to Cassiano Leal instead of list 




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Re: Koffice in sid

2009-12-30 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Wednesday 30 December 2009 09:10:43 Jakub Nowacki wrote:
> > > Answering here as main package of KOffice in Debian
> > >
> > > KOffice 2, as suite, is not fully ready for the masses, it is not only
> > > my personal impression, you can read the same in the KOffice 2.1
> > > release announcement at [0] in bold:
> > > "should still only be used by early adopters and probably not as the
> > > primary worktool."
> 
> Thanks for your answers!
> It's clear for me, that Koffice is still in development - exactly as Sid
>  is. Well it seems than Sid is more stable than Kubuntu - in that distro we
>  can find new Koffice. Regards,
> Jakub.
> 
Kubuntu, Ubuntu et al are a mixture, package repository wise, of Sid, 
Experimental, and packages that they compiled themselves.


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Re: PolicyKit Authorization (System Settings) crashes every time

2009-12-25 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Friday 25 December 2009 00:51:41 Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On 2009-12-25 George Kiagiadakis wrote:
> > Yes, they are co-installable, but I mean that the API is 
incompatible,
> > so you can't take a policykit-based application and compile it 
with
> > policykit-1. Much like Qt3 and Qt4 are incompatible with each 
other.
> 
> Thanks for the explanation, installing policykit-1 didn't have an 
effect
>  (on the module), which I hoped it would do (ie add
>  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume to the list)
> 
> > > Does that mean that the PolicyKit Authorization module will 
not work
> > > properly until 4.5 is released? That will also mean that 
Squeeze won't
> > > have a working PolicyKit module.
> >
> > Probably yes. And I guess it won't be compiled at all in the 4.4
> > series, since debian squeeze will only ship policykit-1 afaik.
> 
> Wow, bummer. I was rather impressed how it worked (when it did)
> 
> > > Or is my system messed up and it does work properly for 
others (except
> > > Goran Dobosevic)?
> >
> > Mounting drives works fine for me, if that's what you are asking.
> > Afaik, the default policy is to allow mounting external drives if 
the
> > user trying to do that is the active user on the system.
> 
> I can still mount them (as root) but auto-mounting it from 
Dolphin (as me
>  as normal user) was rather handy.
> It still works for removable drives, but the partitions/drives in 
question
>  are internal hard disks and those aren't mountable by users by 
default,
>  unless you change the policy.
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> Diederik
> 
The plans seem to suggest to me that a policykit-1 system settings 
module and kauth backend will be available in kdereview for kde 4.4, 
but won't be the default. Debian could compile the policykit-1 
backend as the default when compiling kauth.


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Re: KDE 4.4 betas

2009-12-23 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
If you want to criticise Debian's policies, do it publically to the list, 
not privately to a user. For all previous releases, the .0 release has 
been in unstable on KDE release day. Anyway, 4.4 beta is not 
available in the karmic repos, only in Lucid repos, and the 
developers explicitly warn that no one should currently use Lucid 
unless willing to recover from anything up to complete system 
breakage. 

On Thursday 24 December 2009 01:43:22 you wrote:
> Good luck!!!
> 
> I won't be surprised if 4.3.4 would still be waiting in unstable when 
4.4.0
> or 1 will be released.
> 4.3.3  -- stillbirth
> 4.3.2  -- going through the dying process at testing
> 4.3.1  -- had to go down the drain to make room for 4.3.2
> 
> What a waste of time and effort.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Beojan Stanislaus 
wrote:
> > This message was posted to a Debian mailing list concerning 
when
> > 4.4 beta would be available in Debian experimental. I moved 
from
> > the *buntu set after experiencing serious performance 
differences
> > between identically configured kubuntu and debian systems, 
and
> > would not move back. Also, I prefer debian's practice of 
generally
> > shipping unpatched packages to Ubuntu's patching software
> > against the wishes of upstream.
> 


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Re: KDE 4.4 betas

2009-12-23 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
This message was posted to a Debian mailing list concerning when 
4.4 beta would be available in Debian experimental. I moved from 
the *buntu set after experiencing serious performance differences 
between identically configured kubuntu and debian systems, and 
would not move back. Also, I prefer debian's practice of generally 
shipping unpatched packages to Ubuntu's patching software 
against the wishes of upstream.

On Wednesday 23 December 2009 19:33:12 you wrote:
> What is the point of experimental staying at 4.1.3?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jack Ammo 
 wrote:
> > If you have Kubuntu Karmic (9.10) you can have KDE SC 4.4 B2 
right now
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Beojan Stanislaus 
wrote:
> >> Previously on this list I think it was stated KDE SC 4.4 beta 1 
wouldn't
> >> be packaged due to lack of time. Is there any indication on 
when the
> >> first pre-release version will be available in experimental.
> >>
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KDE 4.4 betas

2009-12-22 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
Previously on this list I think it was stated KDE SC 4.4 beta 1 wouldn't 
be packaged due to lack of time. Is there any indication on when the 
first pre-release version will be available in experimental.


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