Re: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.

2004-02-07 Thread Marcel Meckel
> When I start KDE I see an error message
> "Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation."
> 
> I searched the mailing lists, and saw this problem before
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200310/msg00150.html
> 
> It was supposed to be fixed in xrender (0.8.3-2), but I have
> libxrender1 (0.8.3-5) installed. Is this the same xrender problem,
> or a different bug?
> 
> I started seeing this when I upgraded to
> http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian
> 
> Please cc me in your reply.
> Thanks,
> Shaun

Check your ~/.xsession-error after that message appears for 'undefined
function' / 'reloaction error' or something similar. I had problems
with FT_Stream_Seek/ FT_Seek_Stream since i used a mozilla backport
for woody which installed a newer libfreetype6 so i had to purge
mozilla and these libs before getting KDE started.

Marcel.

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Re: [KDE 3.2] very strange font problems

2004-02-07 Thread Marcel Meckel
Hi,

> > > When i upgrade my KDE from 3.1.4 to 3.2.0 and then start KDE, it
> > > behaves like KDE 3.1.4 in 100dpi mode - fonts are ugly big
> > > (right side of screenshots) at 9pt and much to small in 8pt -
> > > thats the reason why i run KDE 3.1.4 in 75dpi mode - here it's:
> > >
> > > PS: Sure, i changed the 75/100dpi lines in XF86Config-4 and
> > > xfs-xtt config when changed X parameter from -dpi 75 to 100 and
> > > vice versa.
> > >
> > Did you also check /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers?
> > This has -dpi 100 by default and gets overwritten when kdm is
> > upgraded (which always annoys me).
> 
> You are so damn right - this was at least a solution for KDE 3.1.4
> I had -dpi 75 in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, but 100dpi in xserverrc.
   ^
I ment /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers, of course.

> Now i changed (still KDE 3.1.4) all to 100 dpi and started X
> -> Fonts are ugly like on screenshots (the right side). In this
> 100dpi mode Helvetica [Adobe] in 9pt is too big and 8pt to small. So
> i changed all to 75dpi and now all is fine. Of couse i had increase
> font heights about 3pt (9pt>12pt) so in 75dpi mode now all looks
> like on the left screenshots but with pt set to 12/11 instead 9/8.
> 
> I will now upgrade to KDE 3.2.0 again and let you know if this
> solved my font issues.
> 
> .. who knows there are 2 config files for dpi settings ... *damn*

Upgraded to 3.2 and all is fine. 12pt is now like i want it, only
Courier [Bitstream] font is missing for fixed font width fonts.

Marcel.

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Re: [KDE 3.2] very strange font problems

2004-02-07 Thread Marcel Meckel
Hi,

> > When i upgrade my KDE from 3.1.4 to 3.2.0 and then start KDE, it
> > behaves like KDE 3.1.4 in 100dpi mode - fonts are ugly big (right
> > side of screenshots) at 9pt and much to small in 8pt - thats the
> > reason why i run KDE 3.1.4 in 75dpi mode - here it's:
> >
> > PS: Sure, i changed the 75/100dpi lines in XF86Config-4 and
> > xfs-xtt config when changed X parameter from -dpi 75 to 100 and
> > vice versa.
> >
> Did you also check /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers?
> This has -dpi 100 by default and gets overwritten when kdm is
> upgraded (which always annoys me).

You are so damn right - this was at least a solution for KDE 3.1.4
I had -dpi 75 in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, but 100dpi in xserverrc.
Now i changed (still KDE 3.1.4) all to 100 dpi and started X
-> Fonts are ugly like on screenshots (the right side). In this 100dpi
mode Helvetica [Adobe] in 9pt is too big and 8pt to small. So i
changed all to 75dpi and now all is fine. Of couse i had increase font
heights about 3pt (9pt>12pt) so in 75dpi mode now all looks like on
the left screenshots but with pt set to 12/11 instead 9/8.

I will now upgrade to KDE 3.2.0 again and let you know if this solved
my font issues.

... who knows there are 2 config files for dpi settings ... *damn*

Marcel.

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Re: [KDE 3.2] very strange font problems

2004-02-07 Thread Marcel Meckel
Hi,

> > i have some serious font problems with KDE 3.2 for Debian Woody.
> > For better understanding i made some screenshots you can see here:
> >
> > http://test.thermoman.de/kde/kde_font_problems.htm
> 
> I had exactly the same problem. I tried starting X with
> startx -- -dpi 75 and that solved the problem. If this also works
> for you, you can make X run in 75 dpi mode by default by editing
> /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc

If you had read my website you would know i use 75 dpi :)
Problem ist, 75dpi in 3.1.4 is ok, 75dpi in 3.2 is ugly.

Marcel.

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[KDE 3.2] very strange font problems

2004-02-06 Thread Marcel Meckel
Hi and hello,

i have some serious font problems with KDE 3.2 for Debian Woody.
For better understanding i made some screenshots you can see here:

http://test.thermoman.de/kde/kde_font_problems.htm

The main problem as i figured out now is: I run KDE 3.1.4 with 75dpi
fonts and all is fine as you can see on the left screenshots in above
website. If i switch to 100dpi fonts (still KDE 3.1.4) font's are
getting ugly like on these screenshots of KDE 3.2 on the right side.

When i upgrade my KDE from 3.1.4 to 3.2.0 and then start KDE, it
behaves like KDE 3.1.4 in 100dpi mode - fonts are ugly big (right side
of screenshots) at 9pt and much to small in 8pt - thats the reason why
i run KDE 3.1.4 in 75dpi mode - here it's:

  8pt < 9pt < 10pt.

In KDE 3.2.0 (set to 75dpi which behaves like 100dpi 3.1.4) it's:

  8pt < 9pt = 10pt

There is still 1 difference between 9pt and 10pt: The 9pt font is cut
off at the top and the bottom so underscores and the dots on ÖÄÜ
aren't visible
(see http://test.thermoman.de/kde/kde_3.2_helvetica2.png [edit field])

Other problem:
In KDE 3.1.4 there is a fixed font called Courier [Bitstream], which
is *not* available in KDE 3.2.0 (see screenshots).

I tested so much: with and without xfs-xtt, deleted ~/.kde and
started from zero, compared output from 'xlsfonts' in KDE 3.1.4 and
KDE 3.2.0 (only 2 konsole fonts changed, Courier [Bitstream] is still
listed in 3.2.0 ...) but nothing helped. Someone in #debian-kde
pointed me to this mailing list so i address this to you and am
waiting for suggestions :)

PS: Sure, i changed the 75/100dpi lines in XF86Config-4 and xfs-xtt
config when changed X parameter from -dpi 75 to 100 and vice versa.

PPS: Is this bug(?) shown at the end of my mentioned page known? I
couldn't find something related in bugs.kde.org

Marcel (i am subscribed to the mailing list)

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