Re: KDE 3.2 broken

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 07 March 2004 06:01, Matt Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Here is my sources.list:
>
> #deb copy:///cdrom/ sarge main
>
> #deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ testing main  contrib
> #deb-src http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ testing main  contrib
>
> deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ testing main  contrib
> deb-src http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ testing main  contrib
>
> #deb ftp://ftp.au.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main
> deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main

You are trying to install kde backported for Debian/Woody on a machine 
running Debian/testing.

I recommend you remove the kde.org sources from sources.list and follow 
the instructions in the wiki to install the Debian/unstable debs on 
your Debian/testing section.

  http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE and look for the section headed 
"Sarge [aka testing] (using sid debs)".

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Re: kde not interfacing with cups in stable

2004-02-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 23 February 2004 17:57, Orson Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> How can I get cups to show up as a print system in debian stable?

Do you have the kdelibs3-cups package installed?

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Re: Can't Start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 22 February 2004 21:20, Robert Tilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Sunday 22 February 2004 03:26 pm, James Stark wrote:
> > > Needless to say, any help is most wecome.  How do you start kdm
> > > from the console?
> >
> > execute:
> >
> > /etc/init.d/kdm start
> >
> > as root.
>
> This will cause kdm to have root priveleges, will it not?  Is this
> good from a security standpoint?

Root privileges are required in order to run xfree86. The kdm initscript 
starts the X server.

To the OP: from a virtual console (command line), you can start kde 
directly by running:

  $ startx /usr/bin/kde3

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Re: duplicated and "no text!" menu

2004-01-24 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 24 January 2004 22:13, Dominique Devriese 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[re: ui_standards.rc]
> I'm just talking with calc on irc, and he suggested that it may be a
> bug in the config file handling of dpkg.  Something that should
> probably help is purging kdelibs-data and reinstalling it, but I'm
> not sure how you can do that without reinstalling all of KDE.  Anyone
> knows ?

 # dpkg -i --force-confmiss kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.5-1_all.deb

Will solve the missing ui_standards.rc problem.

For reference, one could remove (purge) the package and re-install it 
using:

  # dpkg -P --force-depends kdelibs-data
  # dpkg -i kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.5-1_all.deb

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE debs for sarge

2004-01-24 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 24 January 2004 11:57, Markus Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Does someone knew a KDE source for debian sarge?
> The base sources from sarge are very incomplete. Some packages are
> missing.

If you want newer official Debian KDE packages than are available in 
Debian/testing, and cannot wait for them to filter in from 
Debian/unstable, you can install the 'unstable' packages on your 
Debian/testing installation.

Instructions are available in the DebianKDE FAQ at 
http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: kdelibs build problem

2004-01-10 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 10 January 2004 19:48, "Dr Matthew M Lavy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Dominique Devriese writes:
> > Matthew M Lavy writes:
> >> dpkg -l |grep qt
> >>
> >> rc libqt3-mt 3.0.3-20020329 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime
> >> version).
> >
> > Can you try to remove the above quoted package ?
>
> It's not there (hence "rc"); it once was. See below:
> > apt-get remove libqt3-mt

I think that "rc" translates to "removed, configuration file remain".

Try:
  dpkg --purge libqt3-mt

You may need to use --force-depends.

You can then re-install a fresh copy/version.

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Re: Problem compiling Application with SID & KDE3.1.1

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 16 November 2003 13:26, dodger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> dEcK:~# apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely
> that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: xlibmesa-glu-dev but it is not going to be
> installed or
>   libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be
> installed or
>   libglu-dev
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> dEcK:~#

Hmm, it works for me. Can you try installing xlibmesa-glu-dev and post 
any error here?

Thanks,

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Re: Problem compiling Application with SID & KDE3.1.1

2003-11-16 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:07, Sebastian Wegener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> where the hell can you find the libqt3c102-mt-dev package or a
> package containing those headers that wont fuck up all of kde?

There is no libqt3c102-mt-dev package, the package you want is called 
libqt3-mt-dev.

to help you diagnose your problem, we will need more information, such 
as the exact error message, the version of Debian you are using, the 
version of KDE you have installed, the contents of your /etc/apt/
sources.list, /etc/apt/apt.conf and /etc/apt/preferences files.

Thanks,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Serios problems with KDE

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Cupis
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:54:07AM +0100, Daniel Alonso wrote:
> 
> Sure ! ... Sorry.. I forgot... but here they are. I'm using debian sid,
> and the KDE I had installed was 3.1 rc6 .
> 
> here is my sources.list:
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
> deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib
> non-free
>  
> deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
> deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian-non-US/ sid/non-US main non-free
> contrib
>  
> deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.4/Debian stable main
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

Whoa! If you are running Debian/sid, you will find that KDE3 is
included. Trying to install KDE from kde.org will not work.

Please remove the download.kde.org line from your sources.list, run
apt-get update and try again.

You might also want to read http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE, which
describes how to install KDE on different Debian systems, and describes
any brokenness you may encounter.

Regards,

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Re: Qt development files on unstable?

2003-11-02 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 02 November 2003 13:50, David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Cupis wrote:
> >Please post the output of:
> >
> >  apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-dev
> >  apt-cache policy libqt-mt-dev
>
> {david} ~$ apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-dev
> libqt3-mt-dev:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: (none)
>   Package Pin: (not found)
>   Version Table:
>  3:3.2.1-6 5000
> 500 ftp://ftp.sunet.se unstable/main Packages
> {david} ~$
> {david} ~$ apt-cache policy libqt-mt-dev
> libqt-mt-dev:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 3:2.3.2-14
>   Version Table:
>  3:2.3.2-14 0
> 500 ftp://ftp.sunet.se unstable/main Packages
> {david} ~$

How very odd.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-dev
libqt3-mt-dev:
  Installed: 3:3.2.1-6
  Candidate: 3:3.2.1-6
  Version Table:
 *** 3:3.2.1-6 0
910 http://kippax unstable/main Packages
900 http://kippax testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 2:3.0.3-20020329-1 0
550 http://kippax stable/main Packages


You seem to have an odd "5000" in your output - I do not know what this 
means - and apt does not accept the package as a candidate.

Next steps whould be to try adding another mirror to sources.list and 
apt-get update-ing, and posting your /etc/apt/apt.conf and /etc/apt/
preferences to the list.

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Re: Qt development files on unstable?

2003-11-02 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 02 November 2003 11:51, David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This happens when I try installing libqt3-mt-dev
>
> [root] /home/david# apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Package libqt3-mt-dev has no available version, but exists in the
> database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a
> dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available
> with the contents of sources.list
> However the following packages replace it:
>   qt3-qtconfig qt3-linguist qt3-dev-tools-embedded
> qt3-dev-tools-compat qt3-dev-tools qt3-designer qt3-assistant
> qt3-apps-dev libqt3-headers libqt3-compat-headers libqt-mt-dev
> E: Package libqt3-mt-dev has no installation candidate
> [root] /home/david#
>
> None of the "packages replacing it" actually contain the files from
> libqt3-mt-dev.

Please post the output of:

  apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-dev
  apt-cache policy libqt-mt-dev

Thanks,

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Re: Qt development files on unstable?

2003-11-02 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 02 November 2003 09:31, David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to get the development files for qt-mt on unstable?
> I used to have libqt3-mt-dev installed, but it seems not to be
> available anymore.  Has it been
> replaced with some other packege or is it (hopefully) coming back
> soon?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-show-versions -a libqt3-mt-dev
libqt3-mt-dev   3:3.2.1-6   install ok installed
libqt3-mt-dev   2:3.0.3-20020329-1  stable
libqt3-mt-dev   3:3.2.1-6   testing
libqt3-mt-dev   3:3.2.1-6   unstable
libqt3-mt-dev/testing uptodate 3:3.2.1-6

Looks available to me. What exact problems are you having?

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:30, Paul Cupis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> > > Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
> > >
> > > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
> >
> > Just to tell you:
> > I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the
> > error was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1
> > is used instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.
>
> Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
> libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

Just to keep people up-to-date, it will be a few hours before Branden is 
ready to upload a fixed, so please either downgrade or wait for the new 
package to be built, tested and uploaded.

=== 
xrender (0.8.3-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Urgency medium because the problem fixed by this release bites a lot 
of KDE users who are using XFree86 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 Debian packages.

  * Add new diversion of the actual old libXrender shared object (as 
opposed to diverting only the symlinks).  This is necessary because 
ldconfig will recreate the libXrender.so.1 symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/
lib, which causes major confusion (and possibly errors from the dynamic 
loader) for anything that searches /usr/X11R6/lib before /usr/lib. /
usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.1 is now being diverted to /usr/X11R6/
lib/xlibs.libXrender-1.1.so.1.1.  The diversion's name has to have 
"xlibs." preprended because ldconfig will attempt to operate on any 
plain file matching "lib*.so*".
- debian/libxrender1.preinst
- debian/libxrender1.postrm

  * Under duress, ship a symlink from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.la to /
usr/lib/libXrender.la.  There appears to be a bug in libtool that that 
compels it to place absolute paths to .la files in other .la files. 
This symlink should allow a transition to a non-broken libtool (or the 
eventual recompilation of all libraries that transitively depend on 
libXrender, which is a lot of them) and will be removed in the future.
- debian/libxrender-dev.links

 -- Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed,  8 Oct 2003 19:17:31 
- -0500
=== 

Thanks, and goodnight.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> > Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
> >
> > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
>
> Just to tell you:
> I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
> was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
> instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new 
libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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People,

I think we are confident that this is not an issue with bash/dash or 
with the quoting in /usr/bin/startkde. Please leave the relevant line 
in startkde as distributed:

  LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

When we have a solution to this libxrender/ldconfig breakage, we will 
let you all know.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.

To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in 
libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and 
solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to 
0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

To those of you who are aware of Branden/Overfiend:

Oct 09 00:31:51  it says "OH, LOOK HERE'S A SHARED OBJECT 
WITHOUT A .SO.SOVERSION SYMLINK TO IT, WHY NO ONE COULD EVER POSSIBLY 
HAVE THINGS THAT WAY ON PURPOSE, I THINK I'LL UNCONDITIONALLY CREATE A 
SYMLINK"

:)

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Re: kdeinit error

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 23:25, Anders Lundgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Craig H. Anderson wrote:
> > I've set up a system with testing and then loaded X,kde,and koffice
> > apps from unstable.  It seems to work fine, but I get this error
> > when I login to a kde session.
> >
> > in .xsession-errors:
> > startkde: Starting up...
> > kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined
> > symbol: XRenderFindStandardFormat
> > startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
>
> [snip]
>
> I've got the same problem, just upgraded...

We are working on analysing this right now, and will post to the list 
when we have a solution/workaround/explanation.

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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 18:17, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:06:23AM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > On startup I get an error message, "Could not start kdeinit...",
> > and the first few lines of ~/.xsession-errors look like this
> >
> > startkde: Starting up...
> > kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined
> > symbol: XRenderFindStandardFormat
> > startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
> > Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
> > _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> > ...
> >
> > KDE does start up nevertheless. This happens, apparently, after
> > yesterday's update to libxrender1. I'm using the prelink package to
> > prelink all executables and shared libs. To make sure the error
> > isn't caused by some inconsistent state I freshly prelinked
> > everything, but the error persisted afterwards. Going back to
> > libxrender1 0.8.2-1 helped, though. Otherwise I'm running the
> > latest sid.

I've also seen this, without prelink-ing anything on my system (I don't 
even OOo is prelinked). I have downgraded to 8.2-1 for the moment, as I 
doubt I will have a chance to diagnose before Sat.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ head .xsession-errors
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol: 
XRenderFindStandardFormat
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...

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Re: What's current status of KDE in Sid?

2003-10-06 Thread Paul Cupis
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 07:46:22PM -0700, Hereon wrote:
> 
> So, it seems you are saying that there are some extra steps (besides what
> Paul indicated) that are _required_ to be done to get KDE installed on Sid,
> in consideration of these problems in kdebase & kdemultimedia.  If that is
> true, what are those extra steps?

A basic KDE system (most apps) can be installed in sid today, with only
one required workaround (detailed in the FAQ at
http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE). This workaround is to install a
library package which was removed from the archive just after KDE was
last built.

I am not aware of any workaround to install the kdemultimedia
meta-package in current sid. Hopefully Chris will upload a fixed package
before long.

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Re: What's current status of KDE in Sid?

2003-10-04 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 04 October 2003 07:55, Hereon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2) There are instructions for installing for sid, which would seem to
> imply that it is available.

It is available.

[snip]

> On my pentium system w/ a minimal Sid + minimal gnome (gnome
> installed cause kde wouldn't install) I get:
>
> # apt-get  install kde-core
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely
> that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kde-core: Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed
> E: Broken packages
>
> =Questions:
> 1) Can I somehow get or force to get a minimal working KDE system on
> my Sid now?

Currently there is a little bug whre kdebase in sid is 'uninstallable'. 
To fix this, the wiki says:

== 
(2003/09/01) ksysguardd (and therefore kdebase and therefore kde-core) 
is not installable in sid at the moment. This is due to 
libsensors-1debian1 not being in the archive any more (bug #210276) You 
will need to wait for a new kdebase to uploaded OR download this and 
install it using dpkg -i
== 

Regards,

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Re: kde-multimedia Broken?

2003-09-30 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0400, Robert Tilley wrote:
> When I try to upgrade kde-multimedia, aptitude informs be that all 
packages 
> upon which kdemultimedia depends are unavailable.
> 
> What's up?

FAQ: http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

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Re: Compiling ksendfax

2003-09-26 Thread Paul Cupis
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 07:39:29PM -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
> I'm trying to compile ksendfax and failing - the configure program is 
> looking for the qt-mt library.  I just had a horrible thought - is 
> ksendfax looking for the KDE 2 libraries and therefore incompatible with 
> KDE 3?

FAQ: http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

Try configuring with --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3, and make sure
that you have libqt3-mt-dev installed (and kdelibs-dev).

Regards,

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Re: problem with docs

2003-09-18 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 18 September 2003 19:30, Tom Deblauwe 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have this problem with compiling applications for KDE.  For example
> 'Apollon', found at apollon.sf.net .  The docs are always installed
> in /usr/ share/doc/HTML/en/apollon while from other programs they are
> in /usr/share/ doc/kde/HTML/en/apollon.  KHelpcenter only finds those
> handbooks from the programs which have their docs installed in the
> latter directory, so I don't have my docs available from the help
> menu in Apollon!  What can I do about this?

 $ ./configure
 $ make
 # make install kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML

should do it for you. (I think)

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Re: koffice and kde 3.1.3?

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Cupis
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:43:49AM -0600, Craig H. Anderson wrote:
> 
> The 3.1.3 kde packages have installed with no problem.
> I'd like to install koffice apps as well.  Some
> notes on a failed kpresenter install follow.  How
> can I track the koffice apps? 
> 
> 
> # /etc/apt/sources.list contains
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib 
> non-free
> deb ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.1.3/Debian  stable main 

As you seem to be using Debian/testing, and not Debian Woody, I
recommend that you use the KDE packages from Debian/unstable rather than
those produced for Woody.

Instructions on how to do this are in the DebianKDE FAQ:

  http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

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Re: kde3.1.x today?

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Cupis
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(B> I have difficulties installing kde3 on woody or sarge... well, who
(B> hasnt ;)
(B[snip]
(B> Does anyone have a way or source for me to install a more than very
(B> basic kde3 on woody or sarge? I meen in the very near future, like
(B> today or so ;)
(B
(BWith a mixed testing/unstable system as you describe, download 
(Blibsensors-1debian1 and install it using dpkg -i. Then you will be able 
(Bto apt-get install kde-core from unstable.
(B
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(Binstallable once you have installed the older libsensors packages.
(B
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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 15 September 2003 17:32, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Cupis, 2003-Sep-15 12:34 +0100:
> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:10:05PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > > I'm struggling with this and nothing I've read has yet to lead me
> > > to success.  I hope someone can help me out, I'd really like to
> > > have KDE3 without moving off of sarge.
> >
> > There are instructions in the DebianKDE FAQ which will help you
> > install kde-core.
> >
> >   http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE
>
> Actually, this is the process I followed, but found that broken
> packages in unstable are getting in my way.

"ksysguardd (and therefore kdebase) is not installable in sid at the 
moment. This is due to libsensors-1debian1 not being in the archive any 
more (bug #210276) You will need to wait for a new kdebase to uploaded 
OR download http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2003/06/24/debian/pool/
main/l/lm-sensors/libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb and install it 
using dpkg -i"

If you download and install this libsensors-1debian1 package, can you 
not install kde-core using apt-get?

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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Cupis
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:10:05PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> I'm struggling with this and nothing I've read has yet to lead me to
> success.  I hope someone can help me out, I'd really like to have KDE3
> without moving off of sarge.

There are instructions in the DebianKDE FAQ which will help you install
kde-core.

  http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

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Re: error in install Kde3.1.3

2003-09-12 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 12 September 2003 20:34, Philippe Merlin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dpkg : erreur de traitement de
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kalarm_4%3a3.1.3-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack)
> : tentative de remplacement de « /usr/bin/kalarmd », qui appartient
> aussi au paquet kalarmd

> Dépaquetage de la mise à jour de kdepim-libs ...
> dpkg : erreur de traitement de
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-libs_4%3a3.1.3-0woody1_i386.deb
> (--unpack) : tentative de remplacement de « /usr/lib/libkcal.so.2.0.0
> », qui appartient aussi au paquet libkcal2

Try running:

  dpkg --purge libkcal2 kalarmd
  apt-get -f install

You may need to also use --force-depends on the dpkg line, and I think 
their may be another package or two which gives you a simlar error. 
Just dpkg --purge the errant packages(s) and continue.

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Re: install KDE 3.1.3

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 11 September 2003 21:37, Philippe Merlin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> apt-get  -u upgrade: The output result is below
> -
>- francois:/# apt-get -u upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages have been kept back
>   amor ark arts artsbuilder atlantik bind9-host cervisia debconf
> dnsutils e2fsprogs eyesapplet fetchmail fifteenapplet flashkard
> gphoto2 initrd-tools k3b kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm kalzium kamera
> kandy kaphorism kappfinder karm kasteroids kate kate-plugins katomic
> kaudiocreator kbabel kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce
> kbugbuster kcalc kcharselect kcmlinuz kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat
> kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork
> kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase kdebase-bin
> kdebase-kio-plugins kdegames kdegraphics kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
> kdelibs kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
> kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
> kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesdk-kfile-plugins
> kdesdk-misc kdesktop kdessh kdeutils kdf kdict kdm kdvi kedit keduca
> kenolaba kfax kfind kfloppy kfouleggs kgeo kget kghostview
> kgpgcertmanager khangman khelpcenter khexedit kicker kicker-applets
> kiconedit kit kiten kjots kjumpingcube klaptopdaemon klettres
> klickety klines klipper kmahjongg kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit
> kmessedwords kmid kmidi kmines kmix kmoon kmplot kmrml knewsticker
> knode knotes kodo kolf kompare konq-plugins konqueror
> konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole kooka korganizer korn kpackage
> kpager kpaint kpat kpercentage kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpoker
> kpovmodeler kppp krdc krec kreversi krfb kruler ksame kscd
> kscreensaver kshisen ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake
> ksnapshot ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash kspy kstars ksync ksysguard
> ksysguardd ksysv kteatime ktimer ktip ktouch ktron ktuberling ktux
> kuickshow kuser kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kweather kwin
> kwin4 kworldclock kxconfig kxmlrpc libarts1 libarts1-audiofile
> libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libartsc0 libartsc0-dev
> libcupsys2 libcupsys2-dev libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev libgtk2.0-0
> libgtk2.0-common libgtk2.0-dbg libgtk2.0-dev libkdeedu1 libkdegames1
> libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libkpathsea3 libkregexpeditor libkscan1
> libmimelib1 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common
> libpango1.0-dev libpaperg libpng3 libqt3 libqt3-dev libqt3-mt
> libqt3-mt-dev libsane libvorbis-dev libvorbis0 lskat megami mozilla
> mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm mpeglib mutt noatun
> noatun-plugins openoffice.org-bin poxml quanta samba samba-common
> secpolicy smbclient swat tetex-base tetex-bin tetex-doc tetex-extra
> transcode x-window-system-core xbase-clients xlibmesa3 xlibs
> xlibs-dev xnest xprt xterm xvfb
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 254  not

Okay. If you know look at apt-cache policy kdebase, you should see that 
apt wants to upgrade kdebase.

Try:
  apt-get install kdebase

This should try and upgrade the packages you want. Looking at the list 
you posted, it looks like apt also now wants to upgrade some other 
packages, such as xserver-xfree86 and mozilla. You can use "apt-cache 
policy" and apt-get to install these packages as you see fit.

Regards,

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Re: install KDE 3.1.3

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 11 September 2003 20:34, Philippe Merlin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> below the information for apt-cache policy kdebase and dpkg-l kebase
> -
> francois:/# apt-cache policy kdebase
> kdebase:
>   Installed: 4:3.1.0-0woody2
>   Candidate: 4:3.1.3-0woody1
>   Version Table:
>  4:3.1.3-0woody1 0
> 500 http://download.kde.org stable/main Packages
>  *** 4:3.1.0-0woody2 0
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  4:2.2.2-14.4 0
> 500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages
>  4:2.2.2-14 0
> 500 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386
> Binary-1 (20020718)] unstable/main Packages
> 500 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages
> francois:/# dpkg -l kdebase
[snip]
> ii  kdebase3.1.0-0woody2  KDE Base metapackage

Okay. Can you post a copy of your /etc/apt/apt.conf and /etc/apt/
preferences file please (if you have either). Also post the output from 
running apt-get install kdebase.

If you don't have either of the files mentioned above, try creating a 
file /etc/apt/preferences containing:

Package: * 
Pin: origin download.kde.org
Pin-Priority: 600

And do apt-get -u upgrade.

Regards,

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Re: kdbg package for KDE3.1

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 11 September 2003 15:51, Tsolakos Stavros 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list.
>
> I have installed KDE 3.1 and I would like to setup kdbg. However, I
> can't find a suitable source, and, googling for +kdbg +debian I found
> some messages by people requesting kdbg, but the link was broken.
> Where can I find kdbg for KDE 3.1? Thank you all in advance, and,
> please, if I have not sent this message to the right list, point me
> where could I ask similar questions.

What version of Debian are you using? kdbg is in Debian/sid, which is 
the only version of Debian currently containing KDE3. If you are not 
using sid, perhaps you could try downloading the sid source package and 
compiling it for whatever version of KDE you are using?

Regards,

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Re: kde packages

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Cupis
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 11:57:56PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote:
> 
> 1. should you run apt-get dist-upgrade as well as apt-get upgrade?

In normal use, you should run just use apt-get upgrade. This will cause
apt to upgrade any packages which it can without installing new packages
or removing old ones.

apt-get dist-upgrade will tell apt to do its best to install new
packages. This permits to both to install new packages which you did not
previously have installed, and also to remove packages if it needs to.
As such, dist-upgrade should be used sparingly, and carefully.

> 2. what does the -u flag do? the man page is not too clear.

This roughly translated to "tell me what you are going to upgrade".

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Re: kde packages

2003-09-10 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 10 September 2003 22:59, Peter Nuttall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When I have been runnig apt-get upgrade on my sid box I have noticed
> that some of the packages are not being upgraded. Can some one tell
> me why?

They are probably waiting for to authorise installing a new package. 
Have you tried looking at the output of:

  apt-get -u dist-upgrade

?

Otherwise, please post the exact output of apt-get -u upgrade.

Thanks,

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Re: install KDE 3.1.3

2003-09-09 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 09 September 2003 21:50, Philippe Merlin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I want to upgrade Kde to Kde 3.1.3, i was in Kde 3.1.2, i modify my
> /ec/apt/sources.list in replacing Kde 3.1.2 by Kde 3.1.3 as indicate
> in this line :
> deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.3/Debian stable main
> I do :
> apt-get update
>  i have the messages :
> Hit http://download.kde.org stable/main Packages
> Ign http://download.kde.org stable/main Release
>
> i do :
> apt-get upgrade
> And no packages of kde 3.1.3 has been installed.
> I don't see what is wrong, may i have Help.

What is the output of running the following commands on your system?

apt-cache policy kdebase
dpkg -l kdebase

I suspect that you already have KDE 3.1.3 installed.

Regards,

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Re: KMail Filter Help Needed

2003-09-07 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 09:25, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:38, Robert Tilley wrote:
> > Included is a PNG snapshot of my KMail Filter Rules window.
> >
> > Why are there "More" and "Fewer" buttons in the Actions area while
> > there are the same buttons are lacking in the Rules area?
>
> My guess.. Your fonts are too big and there is not enough room inside
> the panel for them. All the individual panels are fighting the window
> for space and because the fonts are so big, there is not enough to go
> around. The panels are then sized down with the result that only
> parts of them are able to be shown. There is not enough room for the
> more/less buttons so they are thrown out.

I can confirm the missing More/Fewer buttons in this dialog, and this is 
with smaller fonts than the OP. Resizing the dialog does not affect the 
height of the 'rules' panel. Filling both of the available 'rules' does 
not cause a 'more' button to appear.

Debian/sid. Kmail 1.5.3.

ii  kmail  3.1.3-1KDE Email client

Regards,

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Re: Unstable has a problem somewhere - but where?

2003-09-06 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 15:33, Lucas Moulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> The proper way (at least that's what I always do) to install kde is :
>
> apt-get install kdelibs arts kdebase

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show kde-core
Package: kde-core
Priority: optional
Section: kde
Installed-Size: 40
Maintainer: Christopher L Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Source: meta-kde
Version: 4:3.1.1
Depends: arts, kdelibs, kdebase
Suggests: kde-i18n
Filename: pool/main/m/meta-kde/kde-core_3.1.1_all.deb
Size: 6726
MD5sum: 82a1edcef0f42985ea50fa381470a931
Description: The K Desktop Environment (Core)
 A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE 
including arts, kdelibs, knd debase.


Maybe you just need to install kde-core in future? :)

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Re: next stable KDE

2003-08-30 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 30 August 2003 13:39, Wolfgang Jeltsch 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is a 3.1.x version of KDE expected to be in the next stable Debian
> release or will KDE 2.2 (which is currently in testing) go into
> stable?

A 3.1.x version of KDE will be in the next Debian stable release.

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Re: Install kdelibs4-dev from woody on sarge?

2003-08-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 23 August 2003 16:28, Jan Torben Heuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a better soloution than the woody backports for sarge?

Yes, use the sid packages. In time, the sid packages will be in sarge 
anyway, so you may as well use them now. Also, people using the Woody 
KDE3 packages on sarge will suffer a whole host of problems related to 
different default compilers etc.

http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Compiling kmysqladmin-0.6.2 ?

2003-07-31 Thread Paul Cupis
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Yann Forget wrote:
> Le Jeudi 31 Juillet 2003 02:03, Patrick Dreker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a ?crit :
> >
> > Try "./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3"
> 
> Now, I have :
> $ ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3"
> (...)
> checking if Qt needs -ljpeg... no
> checking for rpath... yes
> checking for KDE... configure: error:
> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
> So, check this please and use another prefix!

Do you have kdelibs-dev installed?

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Re: Compiling kmysqladmin-0.6.2 ?

2003-07-30 Thread Paul Cupis
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[ Please keep this on the list - more people can help you this way ]

On Wednesday 30 July 2003 13:46, Papp Horváth Nándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >In short:
> >
> >  dpkg --purge --force-depends libqt3 libqt3-mysql
> >  apt-get update
> >  apt-get install libqt3c102-mt libqt3-mt-dev
>
> Won't work for me :(
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre9# apt-get install
> libqt3-mt-dev
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   libpng12-dev libpng3-dev libqt3-mt qt3-dev-tools xlibmesa-dev
> xlibmesa-gl-dev
>   xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3-gl
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   gwenview kaddressbook kalarm kandy kappfinder karm kate
> kate-plugins kcd kcontrol kdebase
>   kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdepim
> kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-libs
>   kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind kget kghostview khelpcenter kicker
> kile klipper kmail kmenuedit
>   kmix knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole korganizer
> kpager kpersonalizer kpilot
>   ksmserver ksplash ksync ksysguard ktip kweather kwin libarts1
> libkdenetwork2 libkonq4
>   libqt3c102-mt xlibmesa3
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libpng12-dev libpng3-dev libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev qt3-dev-tools
> xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev
>   xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3-gl
> 0 packages upgraded, 9 newly installed, 51 to remove and 62  not
> upgraded.
> Need to get 8108kB of archives. After unpacking 80.3MB will be
> freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Have you tried:

  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

You say you are running unstable, but you have some Woody debs installed 
- - this must be rectified. If the above command doesn't help, it would 
be useful for you to post the results of the following commands:

  apt-cache policy libqt3c102
  apt-cache policy kdebase

and the contents of the following files:

  /etc/apt/sources.list
  /etc/apt/apt.conf
  /etc/apt/preferences
  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Compiling kmysqladmin-0.6.2 ?

2003-07-30 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 30 July 2003 14:17, Andreas Pakulat 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 30.Jul 2003 - 12:49:22, Yann Forget wrote:

> > $ wajig install libqt3-dev
>
> What's that? Normally there should stand a apt-get, not wajig?!

Package: wajig
Description: Simplified Debian package management front end
 Wajig is a single commandline wrapper around apt, apt-cache, dpkg,
 /etc/init.d scripts and more, intended to be easy to use and providing
 extensive documentation for all of its functions.
 .
 With a suitable sudo(1) configuration, most (if not all) package 
installation
 as well as creation tasks can be done from a user shell. Wajig is also
 suitable for general system administration.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Compiling kmysqladmin-0.6.2 ?

2003-07-30 Thread Paul Cupis
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:49:22PM +0200, Yann Forget wrote:
> 
> I would like to compile kmysqladmin-0.6.2.
> I am using unstable (KDE 3.1.2).
> 
> $ dpkg -l '*qt3*' |grep ii
> ii  libqt3 3.1.2-0woody1  Qt Library
> ii  libqt3-mysql   3.1.2-0woody1  MySQL database driver for Qt3
> ii  libqt3c102-mt  3.1.1-9Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version)

Hmm. If you are using unstable, you should not be using the version of
Qt backported for Woody. I would imagine that you installed KDE3 on
Woody or testing and subsequently upgraded to unstable?

Anyway, you need to upgrade to a consistant Debian/unstable
installation. You need to remove libqt3 and libqt3-mysql and install
libqt3 from the Debian mirrors. Further information can be found in the
KDE FAQ at http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

In short:

  dpkg --purge --force-depends libqt3 libqt3-mysql
  apt-get update
  apt-get install libqt3c102-mt libqt3-mt-dev

And for completeness:

  apt-get upgrade

And you should find it all works.

As an aside, I suppose that apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade might
do all the above for you, but I have a niggling feeling that it might
not.

Regards,

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Re: KDE 3.1.3 Status -VS- kde.org's 3.1.2 debs?

2003-07-29 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 29 July 2003 20:55, "John Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> While you were gone, there was a comment that sid is currently
> >> incompatible with the woody .deb's being offered at kde.org
> >
> >The imcompatability of which you speak is, I presume, related to
> > kde.org offering Qt3 with a greater version than that in sid?
[snip]
> >I guess we need Martin Loschwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to upload a
> > newer Qt, or kde.org to use an older one.
>
> I am guessing that Martin follows this list and knows of this issue,
> then?

Oh yes. I've just checked with him, and he is stuck waiting for a bug in 
glibc to be fixed. For those of you playing along at home, it is Debian 
Bug #201221 (http://bugs.debian.org/201221)

| Debian Bug report logs - #201221
| Bug in dlopen/dlclose leads to segfaults with kdecore
| 
| Package: libc6
| Version: 2.3.1-17
| Severity: serious
| Justification: The release manager told me to do so
| 
| Hello,
| 
| A bug in libc6 has been discovered a while ago that gets triggered in
| combination with kdecore. If a program does a dlopen(), dlclose() and 
| then again dlopen() on kdecore, it will segfault. From what I know, 
| this bug has been fixed in the last libc6 upstream release, 2.3.2.

> Thanks for the clarification and the info.

No problem.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE 3.1.3 Status -VS- kde.org's 3.1.2 debs?

2003-07-29 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 29 July 2003 19:57, "John Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While you were gone, there was a comment that sid is currently
> incompatible with the woody .deb's being offered at kde.org

The imcompatability of which you speak is, I presume, related to kde.org 
offering Qt3 with a greater version than that in sid?

If so, this is nothing to do with Chris or the official KDE packages. We 
still do not have Qt 3.1.2 in sid.

A work-around for people upgrading from Woody to testing/unstable has 
been documented on the FAQ at http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE for a 
while.

If this is not the problem you are thinking of, please post more 
details.

> Can you do something to ensure a more orderly upgrade?

I guess we need Martin Loschwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to upload a newer 
Qt, or kde.org to use an older one.

I am sure that this will be fixed before Sarge is released.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: installing KDE 3

2003-07-27 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 27 July 2003 21:02, David Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> usermod -G ,dialout  username>

Ahem.

# adduser username group

is _much_ easier IMHO.

Regards,

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KDE FAQ (was: Re: KDE update)

2003-07-26 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 25 July 2003 23:37, Richard Ibbotson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Can't remember where the FAQ is.

The FAQ is at http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

Regards,

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Re: Qt versioning (was: KDE 3.1.2 broken)

2003-07-22 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 22 July 2003 14:43, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Seems libqt3-mt-dev in sid is a lower version number than the woody
> > version at kde.org.
>
> Is it?  This is a serious problem - upgrades from woody to sid should
> be seamless.  I recall having to epoch several of my KDE modules from
> 0: to 4: because the woody backports had incorrect version numbers
> which broke the upgrades.
>
> Can either Ralf or Madkiss shed some light on this?  I do *not* want
> to see the situation where sarge releases and we have a flood of
> users posting because their Qt and KDE won't upgrade properly. 
> Especially given that one of debian's major strengths over other
> distributions is its upgrades.

Last time I checked the version of Qt3 on kde.org (i.e. for Woody) was 
greater than the version on sid. A workaround is documented on 
http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

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Re: package request

2003-07-13 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 14 July 2003 00:12, Wolfgang Mader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> hello,
>
> is there a predefined way to ask s.o. if it is possible to add a
> programm to the official debian repositrory?

Yes there is.

The procedure/protocol is describe on the following web page:

  http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp

In particular, you should be submitting an RFP (Request for package) 
bug.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE3 packages

2003-07-09 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 09 July 2003 18:54, suresh Sharma wrote:
> Hello,
> can anyone tell me where can I find kde3 packages .

Please read http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

Regards,

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KDE3 on sarge (was: Re: Compiling KDE progs does not work)

2003-07-07 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 07 Jul 2003 19:14, Thomas Watz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have some probs with compiling KDE/QT progs since going to KDE 3.1.
>
> I tried to compile sim 0.82 and got the following failure message:
>
> [...]
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library qt-mt)
> not found. Please check your installation!
> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
> Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!
[snip]
> I don't know what to do. I am running sarge with KDE from ftp.kde.org
> (woody section) and I am wondering if this might not work together
> with the installed libs and/or the compilers.
>
> Any hints what to do?

Two points spring to mind. I would expect that KDE3 on kde.org was 
compiled with gcc-2.95 - you are compiling with 3.3, and this will not 
work. You will need to either specifiy that your debian/rules uses 
gcc-2.95 or change the default gcc on your system.

You may also find that you need the libqt3-compat-headers package.

BUT:

I strongly recommend that people running KDE3 on sarge use the debs from 
sid, not from kde.org. This gcc issue is noly one of the problems that 
sarge users will encounter.

  http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: missing libsensors1 package

2003-07-01 Thread Paul Cupis
On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 10:13:09PM -0700, Peter Nome wrote:
 
> Greetings --

Greetings.

> Sid is currently missing the libsensors1 package, which is required for
> ksysguardd, part of the official KDE base module.
> The package is present in both woody and sarge. 
> 
> This missing package means that installing Debian sid on a new system is 
> impossible -- unless you happen to have the last version of libsensors1 
> lying around, in which case it works fine.

Uh, it is possible to install sid - it is not possible to easily install
KDE from sid.

> Any chance someone could take care of this show-stopper? I just installed 
> sid on eight computers and it took me a lot of extra time -- my IQ is is
> in the high single digits and I wasted some much needed sleep on this...

This is a known bug, and well documented on the Debian KDE FAQ page at
http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

The same page has instructions for getting the old package. AFAIK, calc
is planning to do an upload to fix this in the next week or so. I think
that the delay has been due to gcc/glib issues.

Regards,

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Re: Applications for KDE 3.1.2

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 23 Jun 2003 20:31, "Christof Hurschler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I get this when I make.  Any idea what I'm missing here?

[snip]

> make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
> source='audiodoc.cpp' object='audiodoc.o' libtool=no \
> depfile='.deps/audiodoc.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/audiodoc.TPo' \
> depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../admin/depcomp \
> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde
> -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include   -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT 
> -D_REENTRANT  -pipe -O2 -DNDEBU G -fno-check-new  -c -o audiodoc.o
> `test -f audiodoc.cpp || echo './'`audiodoc.cpp
> In file included from audiodoc.cpp:34:
> audiowriter.h:22: qlist.h: No such file or directory
> make[3]: *** [audiodoc.o] Error 1

Do you have libqt3-compat-headers installed?

You might like to download the sid source package for arson and compile 
it on your Woody machine using debuild or dpkg-buildpackage.

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Re: KDE on startup

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 23 Jun 2003 18:33, Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do I need to configure so that the KDE logon screen opens on
> boot instead of the bash logon screen and then having to type startx?

You need to install a 'display manager'. This will give you a graphical 
login screen. As you are asking on a Debian KDE list, I suspect that 
you want the KDE Display Manager, kdm.

As root, run:

  apt-get install kdm

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: whereis libsensors1?

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 21:40, Angathule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I'm trying to install KDE on a Sid Machine, but I can't

Yes, this is a known problem. The libsensors1 package was 
removed/replaced, and the KDE packages still depend on it.

Please see http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE for sources of the 
old versions of these debs.

The next set of KDE debs will be fixed in this respect, as they will 
build against the new packages.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: kvim/vimpart on ppc

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 04 Jun 2003 19:02, Gurujiwan Khalsa 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[...]
>checking for xmkmf... /usr/bin/X11/xmkmf
>checking for X... no
>checking if X11 header files can be found... no
>checking --enable-gui argument... no GUI support
>configure: error: could not find Qt directory

Try installing kdelibs-dev and build-essential and trying again. It is 
still doesn't work (and complains about Qt), try using

  ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3

It is still doesn't work (and still complains about Qt) try again after 
installing libqt3-compat-headers.

You might also like to try downloading the Debian source package from 
unstable and recompiling it on Woody.

  * download the orig.tar.gz, diff.gz, dsc files from 
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kvim
  * use dpkg-source -x kvim_foo.dsc
  * cd into the kvim-foo directory
  * run dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
  * dpkg --install the resulting package

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Unable to compile QT apps

2003-05-26 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 26 May 2003 21:56, CRH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2003 19:27:07 +0200, Florian Struck Combobulated:
>
> [...]
>
> I'm still having problems. It seems that everything is looking for
> libqt3-mt. That is a Woody file but sid (which I'm running) is using
> libqt3c102-mt.
>
> Here's the typical error:
>
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021))
> (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! For more
> details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.

It is not looking for libqt3-mt, but libqt3-mt-dev, which you have. Can 
you try using:

  ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3

please? If that doesn't work, install libqt3-compat-headers and try the 
above line again.

Let the list known if this doesn't solve your problem.

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Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-18 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 18 May 2003 22:14, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just apt-get updated my system and found some new KDE packages with
> version 3.1.2.  As is normally the case with large software systems
> such as KDE, not all the pieces are there yet, but so far I've
> noticed that app startup times are noticably faster (WOOHOO!!!)
>
> Now I'm curious.  What's the story with 3.1.2?  What new and cool
> features are in it?  What potential problems should I look out for? 
> What else should I know?

  http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.1.2.php

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Re: KDE and CUPS

2003-05-18 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 18 May 2003 07:07, Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 01:30:15AM -0400, Antiphon . wrote:
> > Thanks for the quick answer.
> >
> > So when is 3.1.2 scheduled for upload? I've noticed
> > that 3.1.1a has not been been put into the sid
> > repositories.
> >
> > Where exactly is the problem? It would be nice to know
> > so I could recompile in the meantime.
>
> 3.1.2 is scheduled to be uploaded within the next 4 days, IIRC.

  Subject: Accepted kdelibs 4:3.1.2-1 (i386 source all)
  Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 04:18:03 -0400
  Closes: [...] 192931

And bug #192931...

  #192931: kdelibs4: printing from any KDE app causes segfault

So it seems that fixed kdelibs has just been uploaded. When this 
propogates to the mirrors, please let us know if this solves you 
printing issue.

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Re: Debian KDE 3 packages using a different kde_htmldir

2003-05-14 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 14 May 2003 14:41, Dominique Devriese 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No, that's not the problem.  The problem is in the patch
> kdelibs.dirs.patch that only Debian applies.  It makes it such that
> for any given prefix ( whether it is /usr, /usr/local or
> /usr/local/kde doesn't matter ), it expects the documentation to be
> in "$prefix/share/doc/kde/HTML/" instead of "$prefix/share/doc/HTML".
> This is purely Debian's "fault", and it doesn't happen on SuSE
> because they don't mess with this..
>
> I understand though that Debian has had to move their documentation
> to this location, and has had to make sure that the KDE KStandardDirs
> still found it by applying the patch, however, what imho should have
> been done, in order to keep third party apps working, was that the
> KStandardDirs patch should have made sure that the old location (
> "$prefix/share/doc/HTML" ) was also searched..

Sorry to join this late...

On Debian systems, all files under /usr/share/doc/HTML are generated and 
owned my the dhelp system (package 'dhelp'). As such, if KDE (or any 
ther) program installed files there, they wuold be wiped out the next 
time dhelp regenerated the directory.

As such, it does not make sense for third-party docs to be installed 
there, as they would be deleted without notice to the user.

> However, the damage is probably already done, since all previous KDE
> versions in Debian have had the patch applied, so I'm going to make a
> patch for the KDE build system that makes it install HTML
> documentation in $prefix/share/doc/kde/HTML by default..

I don't think that Debian will change to put KDE docs in 
/usr/share/doc/HTML, even if that remains upstreams position. The 
easiest was for users to install packages from source and still get 
their documentation would be for them to pass 
kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML to their make install line:

  make install kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML

On Wednesday 14 May 2003 15:52, Dominique Devriese 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi again,
> I'm going to send this patch to coolo..  It changes the default
> documentation install path for HTML documentation to
> $prefix/share/doc/kde/HTML, for a Debian installation on which
> kdelibs4 is installed..
> Would you agree this is a good solution ?

On first glance, this seems okay. The other option, as I think you've 
said is for the KDE3 packages to add /usr/local/share/doc/HTML to their 
search package for KDE documenation (etc), which I don't think is a 
good idea.

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Re: KDE Menu Items missing?

2003-05-14 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 14 May 2003 11:13, Alex Hermann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 May 2003 22:06, Lewis Donofrio wrote:
> > How do I get the kde 'start menu' to reflect apt-getted
> > applications that are installed on the machine?
>
> they should appear automagically, but otherwise use:
>
> $ dcop kicker Panel restart

or:

  # apt-get install menu
  $ update-menus

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Problems with kde3.1 / QT3 on sarge

2003-05-12 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 12 May 2003 21:42, Germain CHAZOT 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> # apt-get install kdevelop
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely
> that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to
> be installed
> Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
>
> > If that still doesn't work, please post to the list with the errors
> > you encounter above.
>
> So still doesn't work

Well, yes.

KDE3 is not in testing. Kdevelop requires KDE. You machine is running 
testing, and so is trying to install kdevelop for testing. Kdevelop for 
testing requires KDE for testing, i.e. KDE2. If you want Kdevelop for 
KDE3, you will need to either install it from Debian/unstable, or wait 
for it and the rest of KDE3 to drop into testing.

Try:
  apt-get install kdevelop -t unstable

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Re: Problems with kde3.1 / QT3 on sarge

2003-05-12 Thread Paul Cupis
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Please try running:

  ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3

If that still doesn't work, install libqt3-mt-dev and 
libqt3-compat-headers and try again.

If that still doesn't work, please post to the list with the errors you 
encounter above.

Thank you.

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KDE and CUPS upgrade problem (was: Re: Problem with printing in konqueror?)

2003-05-11 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 11 May 2003 22:29, Donald Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I DO have the old cupsd.conf file around (I saved it), and also have
> a moderately "clean" cupsd.conf file on other computers that could
> act as a baseline for all my edits.  Guess I could do the scut-work
> and make the comparisons.  Time to brew up some coffee and post-pone
> a few "combat naps" and get to work .  I can forward the files
> to anyone who might want to put a second set of eyes on it.  I am NOT
> a "programmer" so maybe someone better qualified than I should look
> also.

Can you forward them to me, please?

> BTW, I use the KDE config "wizzard" almost exclusively to set up
> CUPS. I mention this because this introduces another possible
> variable into the problem.  I started off with KDE from Debian
> "Stable" and upgraded almost immediately to the version in "testing".
>  I have been following that version until about 2 weeks ago, when I
> upgraded to KDE 3.1.1 from "ustable".  The CUPS config wizzard has
> changed along the way, and I really don't know if those changes
> contributed to what I saw.  All I can say for sure is that the
> current KDE 3.1.1 from "unstable" works OK for me with CUPS from
> "unstabe" starting from the packager's version of cupsd.conf.  The
> version currently in "testing" seems to me to be broken with respect
> to setting up a LAN server.  Config of a local printer is OK.

Personally, I suspect that cupsd.conf generated by the old kprinter 
configuration tool are the most suspect part of this equation so far. 
Perhaps with further analysis of the files generated by the various 
tools (and upstream/package maintainers version) we will be able to 
solve this. It is obviously biting a number of people, and will almost 
certainly be a Woody->Sarge upgrade issue.

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Re: Problem with printing in konqueror?

2003-05-10 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 10 May 2003 01:07, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are you sure it's just konqueror, or could it be printing something
> > with lots of images that causes your problem?  Try some other apps
> > and see.
>
> FWIW, printing for me is also broken across all of KDE.  Whenever I
> open a print dialog the corresponding app crashes.  I'm printing via
> cups.
>
> A variant of this seems to be already logged in the BTS, in that if
> you open the printer configuration in kcontrol and select one of the
> cups printers then again you get a crash.

FWIW, I have CUPS and KDE running fine together on sid, and have done 
for a while. I vaguely recall that I may have had to blow away my 
configuration after a CUPS upgrade a while ago  - perhaps kprinter 
generates a cups.conf which the newer/current CUPS pacakges do not 
like?

Can anyone having these problems try replcing their cups.conf with the 
package maintainers version, reconfiguring, and trying again? It would 
be useful to know if this is the cause of the problem, so that we may 
try and resolve it.

Thanks.

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Re: Komba.. (More reasons why it has to reap mounts)

2003-04-25 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 23 Apr 2003 17:34, Michael Peddemors 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 April 2003 06:22, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > Deleted users if a much different scenario than users who have
> > logged off and left 'long' running processes running.
>
> Yes, but both have to be handled.  Can you think of a basic premise
> where if a user doesn't have a process running, he needs the mounts
> still?

Cron jobs, delayed execution of programs/scripts.

> > > Well, we should be able to detect if
> > > 1) the user has active processes
> > > 2) the user is logged in (Actually that will be covered by 1)
> > >
> > > If not, the mount can be reaped.
> >
> > How do you propose to reap the mounts? This is not, AFAIK,
> > something which komba is concerned with.
>
> I heard that, but if the program is used to mount the shares, it
> should be able to look after unmounting them..

It can unmount them - doesn't necessarily mean it should reap them. 
Perhaps you feel the same way about the other mount tools, and smbmount 
GUIs?

> > Description: KDE Samba browser
> >  Komba2 is a GUI machine and share browser for the
> >  SMB protocol. Komba2 allows you to scan any number
> >  of subnets for machines with SMB. The workgroups,
> >  machines and share are shown in a tree-view.
> >  For each machine you can then view the list of
> >  shares, and mount, unmount or browse them. You can
>
> 
>
> > If you want users to unmount things when they log off, perhaps this
> > could be added as an option to komba ( [X] Always unmount upon
> > logoff ), but it should not be on by default. if you want unused
> > mounts on your system to be unmounted, you need some daemon to do
> > that. I am nt currently aware of any such daemon, though I'm sure
> > one could be coded. But unmounting something accidentally or
> > incorrectly could be disasterous.
>
> It needs to be addressed, in any case, and if at least any mounts
> created by Komba were reaped when unused, then we would be a long
> way.  Any shares mounted manually, (ie not via Komba) it doesn't have
> to deal with..  Then noone has to deal with the whole debian system
> logic as a whole, and deal with it strictly in the package that
> handles 'mounting and unmounting'.
>
> Maybe a seperate 'mtab style' record keeping, and a cron job to clean
> them would be the simplest, or a Komba Reaper Daemon, and this could
> have 'as an option' the ability to clean up system mounts, but this
> should not be the default.
>
> > Perhaps automatic unmounting-upon-closing-komba could be added as a
>
> They already have that..
>
> > user-definable option, but I think that would be a bad idea. One
> > should not have to have komba running the entire time one wants to
> > use a share mounted _via_ komba. Having an unmount-upon-logoff
> > would be better, but
>
> Yes, precisely
>
> > would require some part of komba to be called upon KDE logoff to do
> > the unmounting.
>
> But that doesn't handle disco's  So a reaper would have to be in
> place anyways, so might as well let the reaper do all the work.  As
> well, it may need to be at the user logoff, and not KDE logoff,
> however that might be more satisfying for those liking 'Microsoft
> Style'

Discos? If you want to take mounting/unmounting out of the users hands, 
maybe try autofs/automount/whatever it is called.

> > I can understand the problem you percieve, but I do not agree with
> > your proposed solutions. Users should unmount shares when they have
> > finished
>
> SHOULD??? We aren't dealing with educated users, and expecting 100
> users to remember to do this every day on an xterminal system is
> impractical.

Educate the users, then? They must have been educated enough to _mount_ 
the shares, why not unmount them?

> > If they do not unmount them, perhaps they had a good reason
>
> No, it shoudl be that if they have a NEED to keep shares opened after
> all their tasks are completed, they should perform some special
> operation to do so, but this SHOULD NOT be the default behavior in a
> robust system.

Some special operation? Like mounting the shares? I assume you mean that 
auto-reaped shares should be the default, persistant shares should be 
an option?

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Re: Komba..

2003-04-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 23 Apr 2003 01:28, Michael Peddemors 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 April 2003 15:13, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > > Because the user is no longer logged in.  The mounts mounted
> > > under their home directories are of no use to the system or any
> > > other user, until they log back in.
> >
> > What if they are still running processes which might be using those
> > mounts?
>
> Okay, how best to handle this.  If a server is running 24/7 for
> years, and users have long since been deleted, why should their
> shares still be mounted?

Deleted users if a much different scenario than users who have logged 
off and left 'long' running processes running.

> > In Microsoft Windows, AFAIK, when one logs off, all of their user
> > processes are terminated. This is not necessarily the case on
> > non-Microsoft systems. Assuming that it is the case is wrong.
>
> Well, we should be able to detect if
> 1) the user has active processes
> 2) the user is logged in (Actually that will be covered by 1)
>
> If not, the mount can be reaped.

How do you propose to reap the mounts? This is not, AFAIK, something 
which komba is concerned with.
 
Description: KDE Samba browser
 Komba2 is a GUI machine and share browser for the
 SMB protocol. Komba2 allows you to scan any number
 of subnets for machines with SMB. The workgroups,
 machines and share are shown in a tree-view.
 For each machine you can then view the list of
 shares, and mount, unmount or browse them. You can
 also search a machine by  name or ip.

If you want users to unmount things when they log off, perhaps this 
could be added as an option to komba ( [X] Always unmount upon logoff 
), but it should not be on by default. if you want unused mounts on 
your system to be unmounted, you need some daemon to do that. I am nt 
currently aware of any such daemon, though I'm sure one could be coded. 
But unmounting something accidentally or incorrectly could be 
disasterous.

> Or, at least we can make it a configuration option, so that the
> person who is installing the package can choose the behavior.

Perhaps automatic unmounting-upon-closing-komba could be added as a 
user-definable option, but I think that would be a bad idea. One should 
not have to have komba running the entire time one wants to use a share 
mounted _via_ komba. Having an unmount-upon-logoff would be better, but 
would require some part of komba to be called upon KDE logoff to do the 
unmounting.

I can understand the problem you percieve, but I do not agree with your 
proposed solutions. Users should unmount shares when they have finished 
with them. If they do not unmount them, perhaps they had a good reason 
to.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Komba..

2003-04-22 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 22 Apr 2003 21:04, Michael Peddemors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 April 2003 12:17, you wrote:
> > Le 22/04/03 à 15:14 Michael Peddemors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
écrivait :
> > > Same here, but I thought we could do some debian specific stuff,
> > > like adding a cron entry to cleanup orphaned mounts etc.., ensure
> > > that mounts are unmounted on logout/disconnect etc..
> >
> > How could you be sure a mount is orphaned ?
>
> If the user who mounted the share is not logged on anymore.
>
> > Why should mount be unmouted on disconnect ?
>
> Because the user is no longer logged in.  The mounts mounted under
> their home directories are of no use to the system or any other user,
> until they log back in.

What if they are still running processes which might be using those 
mounts?

> > That is clearly not the purpuse of komba, sorry !
>
> Uh, but it seems the exact use of Komba, to mount shares under their
> home directories when they need them, and to unmount them when they
> disconnect. There is an option to remount shares on logon.
>
> When you mount via Komba, with 50 users mounting 60 shares, we have a
> lot of unused mounts.  In windows, when you disconnect, the smb
> connections are dropped when you disconnect.  So when a user
> disconects, it should close the mount, when they login again, the
> shares will get remounted.

In Microsoft Windows, AFAIK, when one logs off, all of their user 
processes are terminated. This is not necessarily the case on 
non-Microsoft systems. Assuming that it is the case is wrong.

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Re: klauncher complains about io-slave

2003-04-22 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 22 Apr 2003 09:02, Petr Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I changed my email address for my debian mailing lists, cause lists
> stoped to come on my old address. Why? I don'y know. Does anyone?
> Anyway I have quite serious trouble. I did some installing and now I
> am get this when I run Konqueror (Home)
>
> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
> klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'.

Do you have the files kio_file.la and kio_file.so in /usr/lib/kde3? If 
not, try installing kdebase and kdelibs4 and see if that helps.

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Re: "bad" fonts under kde3 re-install

2003-04-07 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 07 Apr 2003 03:19, Grant Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I went to work to re-install kde3 using the version at ktown.kde.org,
> but when re-installed kdm and went to login, I got blanks/underlines
> for text.
>
> I've no real clue way, I've tried purging and then re-installing
> kde3, but sill no good. I'm running unstable...

If you are running unstable, you should be using KDE3.1 from unstable.

As for your problem, do you have fontconfig installed?

Paul Cupis
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Old apt source (was: Re: Noatun doesn't load ID3 tags)

2003-04-06 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 06 Apr 2003 04:45, Nathan Weston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am running unstable, and using the kde packages from there, and
> from http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.1-1 ./

Hmm, all the packages on that source are already in Debian/unstable 
proper. I'd recommend removing that source from source.list.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Compiling Karamba

2003-04-06 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 06 Apr 2003 01:35, Daniel Stone 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 01:24:31AM +0200, Jan Schulz scrawled:
> > The deb line is only useable if you have ktown kde and libc from
> > unstable... Currently I have no idea how to setup a clean woody
> > 'chroot' (?)...
>
> debootstrap will do this for you quite nicely. I also recommend the
> sbuild package, which does building inside a chroot - very nice.

Also, 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot 
describes how to set up a chroot system, and the pbuilder package is 
excellent at both creating a build-environment in a compress chroot and 
dealing with building packages in said environment.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: kreatecd for kde3

2003-04-06 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 06 Apr 2003 12:59, "Christophe Prud'homme" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ Sunday 06 April 2003 06:15 am ]
>
> | I can't seem to find any kreatecd debian packages for kde3.  am I
> | just overlooking something?
>
> I am the maintainer for kreatecd however I did not packaged kreatecd
> for kde3 kreatecd is part of kdeextragear-1 now so I thought it would
> come with it
>
> what is the procedure/policy for kde 2.x apps that have been moved to
> kde CVS and that are packaged with the other new ones? should the
> former app -- like kreatecd --- be orphaned by me or should I still
> package kreatecd myself? are there any documents/emails out there
> mentioning that ?
> I packageed also korinoco which has been become obsolete for kde3 it
> is now kwifi and present in kde CVS

kdeextragear is not released by KDE, and is not packaged with the rest 
of KDE. In short, you should continue to package it if you want o see 
it in Debian.

kwifimanager has been moved in kdenetwork for KDE3.2, and so will be 
packaged by the kdenetwork maintainer (Chris Cheney).

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: DCOPserver problem with user

2003-04-05 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 04 Apr 2003 23:50, Michael S Daines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I just set up my laptop recently, and I'm having trouble getting KDE
> to work for my user account.  It works fine, however, as root.  When
> I try to startx as a user, I get the following error message:
>
> # There was an error setting up inter-process
> # communication for KDE. The message returned
> # by the system was:
> #
> # Could not read network connection list.
> # /home/daines/.DCOPserver_(none)_:0
> #
> # Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
>
> "daines" is the name of my user account.  I have my suspicions that
> this problem may be related to something else, since I cannot get
> apache to start, either.  The "(none)" is what makes me think this. 
> I don't have any idea how to go about fixing it, though.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls .DCOP*
.DCOPserver_kippax_:0  .DCOPserver_kippax__0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

What is your machines hostname?

Hint: /etc/hostname, man hostname

Re: apache, probably the same problem, also check /etc/apache/http.conf 
for apache's hostname specification.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Menu system

2003-04-04 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 04 Apr 2003 16:27, "Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
> >> The "Debian" (non-KDE) menus should be there in 3.1 as well.
> >> However, on one of my machines they did mysteriously disappear for
> >> no reason I could gather.
> >
> > apt-get install menu
> >
> > :-)
>
> "menu" was (and is) already installed, but the debian menus aren't
> there.
>
> I presume an
>
>  apt-get install menu --reinstall
>
> would probably fix it, but haven't tried (yet).

Try apt-get install kdebase

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)

2003-04-04 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 04 Apr 2003 16:17, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
> Screenshot (what's a small kde app for taking them?)
[snip, snip]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search screenshot | grep ^k
ksnapshot - Screenshot application for KDE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show ksnapshot
Package: ksnapshot
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Installed-Size: 272
Maintainer: Christopher L Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Source: kdegraphics
Version: 4:3.1.1-1
Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.1.1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.8), libc6 (>= 
2.3.1-1), lib
fam0c102, libgcc1 (>= 1:3.2.3-0pre5), libpng12-0, libqt3c102-mt (>= 
3:3.1.1), li
bstdc++5 (>= 1:3.2.3-0pre5), xlibs (>> 4.1.0), xlibs (>> 4.2.0), zlib1g 
(>= 1:1.
1.4)
Suggests: khelpcenter
Filename: pool/main/k/kdegraphics/ksnapshot_3.1.1-1_i386.deb
Size: 75944
MD5sum: 6063013b5e384a0d133b8365f2e59e83
Description: Screenshot application for KDE
 KSnapshot is a simple applet for taking screenshots. It is capable of
 capturing images of either the whole desktop or just a single window.
 The images can then be saved in a variety of formats.
 .
 This package is part of the official KDE graphics module.
Task: desktop

Paul Cupis
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Re: Menu system

2003-03-30 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 13:36, Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Running KDE 3.1 on sid, with only packages from debian archive.  The
> menu system for KDE 3.1 no longer shows non-KDE programs, as it used
> to with KDE 2.2.  Is there any way to get them back?  Gnome has an
> option to enable KDE and Debian menus, for instance.  I was hoping
> there was such thing with the new KDE, but I haven't found it yet.

So you have the kdebase package installed? If not, can you install it 
and tell us if this problem is fixed?

Thanks.

Paul Cupis
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Re: tabbed browsing with konqueror

2003-03-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 23 Mar 2003 14:30, Charles de Miramon wrote:
> Le Dimanche 23 Mars 2003 14:10, Ralf Nolden a écrit :
> > Can you file this as a bugreport on bugs.kde.org please ? Then it
> > gets "fixed" for KDE 3.2 (the 3.1 branch doesn't allow any string
> > changes)
> >
> > Ralf
>
> Yes, but check first if it is a problem of the original English
> message or of the German translation.
>
> Maybe someone on the list who use KDE and Mozilla in English can give
> us some precise informations.

Mozilla: Load links in the background
Konqueror: Automatically activate new opened tabs

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: kprinter in KDE 3.1.1 crashes under sid

2003-03-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 23 Mar 2003 03:40, Oliver Johns wrote:
> The crashes that Pablo di Vincente saw under woody also happen in a
> totally current (as of 2003.03.22) sid system.  This was also an
> upgrade from 3.1.0.  When one types kprinter from a konsole window
> the kprinter comes up and then instantly crashes with the message
>
> kdecore (KSocket): ERROR: KExtendedSocket::connectionEvent() called
> but no data available!
>
> The KDE crash dialog says that kprinter crashed with signal 11
> SIGSEGV.
>
> One way to postpone the crash is to remove the file
> ~/.kde/share/config/kdeprintrc
> Then the kprinter window will launch successfully.  If you click on
> any option EXCEPT cups, the window will stay.  But if you click on
> the CUPS option, there is an instant crash, as described above.
> I surmise that the trouble is when kprinter talks to cups.
>
> But, my cups is working fine.  I can print to cups using the bsd
> compatibility commands like lp or lpr.  That works with no glitch.
>
> I tried purging kdeprint and re-installing it after a reboot.  That
> did not help.  That suggests that kprinter interacts with files from
> some other package in 3.1.1 in some bad way.
>
> Ideas?

I cannot confirm this bug on a sid system which has seen most if not all 
kde3 debs since 3.0.4-ish. I use CUPS and kprinter daily without 
problem.

Paul Cupis
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Re: Problem compiling Application with SID & KDE3.1.1

2003-03-18 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 18 Mar 2003 22:43, Timo Springmann wrote:
> hi.
>
> > Yes, there's a solution, and it WAS available to find by reading a
> > little further back in the list.
>
> I did that. I read most of the mails on this mailing list.
>
> > You'll probably need to do:
> >
> > ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/lib/qt3

This is just wrong:

  ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3

> That does not work. Tried that before. Maybe I should have told...
>
> I think the problem is that I have to install a dev Package, but in
> my I can't find a "c102" one and the other is not working (described
> in my mail before).

The "c102" suffix is an artifact of the gcc3.2 transition. The correct 
- -dev packages for Qt3 using multi-threading (as all modern/current apps 
should be) is libqt3-mt-dev. If a plain ./configure or the command 
above still complain about missing Qt headers, it may be due to the 
application's source code using depreciated functions - to cure this 
install libqt3-compat-headers and/or check out the fixincludes script 
in the package of the same name.

Paul Cupis
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Re: Laptop blues

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 17 Mar 2003 16:33, Bernt Christandl wrote:

> Is anybody using that ATI Rage Mobility successfully with xfree86-4
> and can tell me how to configure it better than i have done?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility 
P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)

I have had X 4.1. and X 4.2 working fine on this machine since it was 
installed as a Woody box a while ago (now running sid). KDE 2.2, 3.1 
and 3.1.1 official debs, with no problems of the sort you describe.

I have attached my XF86Config-4 file for your reference (the first 24 
lines can be ignored - they are to override debconf/dexconf as I use a 
non-standard screensize).

The (probable) interesting part is:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 
[Mobility LM]"
Driver  "ati"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
EndSection

But this is fairly basic/standard.

Are you using debconf to configure X, or...?

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Custom Screen"
Device  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 
[Mobility LM]"
Monitor "DXS:1313"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" 
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" 
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Custom Layout"
Screen  "Custom Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
EndSection


### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device"&

Re: Outstanding KDE3.1 problems

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 17 Mar 2003 17:00, Vladimir Wiedermann wrote:

> btw which package contains kio_smb ?

  kdebase-kio-plugins

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Where is kdenetwork?

2003-03-16 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 15:40, Robert Tilley wrote:
> I recently damaged my system through a poorly executed aptitude
> update. I no  longer have kdenetwork, knode, or kmail.
>
> The echeney site doesn't respond and I have where to turn.
>
> Bob Tilley
>
> P.S.  I have no e-mail (obviously) so must use the Debian archives.

Most of KDE 3.1.1 is in sid. kdenetwork and kdepim are being held up a 
little as they are NEW packages - Chris has made them available with 
the following deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list

  deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.1-1 ./

Have fun.

Paul Cupis
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Re: Where is kdeprint?

2003-03-14 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 14 Mar 2003 12:24, Pedro Jurado Maqueda wrote:
>  Hi, today March 14th I try to install kdeprint 3.1.0 in woody with
> KDE 3.1.0 but it no be in Nolden's repository, then I search in
> Debian page but either be there. Nevertheless I found it in unstable
> branch kdeprint 3.1.1. What happens, why aren't in 3.1.0 version?, is
> something wrong with it? Thanks in advance for you ask.

You probably caught Ralf in the middle of updating his repository from 
KDE 3.1.0 to 3.1.1. Perhaps you should run apt-get update and try and 
install kdeprint from there again?

Re: your subsequent email, you should not have taken kdeprint from 
Debian/sid as it will not be compatible with Ralf's KDE for Woody. 
Please remove kdeprint (dpkg --remove kdeprint) and then try installing 
from Ralf's source.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE3.1 -> kfmclient not found

2003-03-11 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 11 Mar 2003 13:38, Thomas Mammitzsch wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Cupis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: KDE3.1 -> kfmclient not found
>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> i´ve installed kde 3.1 by dselect on my woody pc. it worked,
> >> >> but if click on my home-icon, i get this message "KDEInit could
> >> >> not launch "kfmclient": Could not find "kfmclient"
> >> >> executable." I also couldn´t find kfmclient in dselect. What
> >> >> went wrong?
> >> >
> >> >kdmclient is in the konqueror package. Do you have this
> >> > installed?
> >>
> >> hmm, no i mean kfmclient, not kdmclient. Don´t know if thats the
> >> same. And no, i have no konqueror installed, actually. I´ll try
> >> this out. In this case, shouldn´t there be an automatic dependency
> >> to konqueror if kde gets installed?
> >
> >Yeah, typo on my part. kfmclient (with an 'f', not a 'd') is in the
> >konqueror package. Hopefully someone will look into why you did not
> > get it installed - can you post with the exact path you took to get
> > kde3 installed, please? (well as detailed as you can remember).
>
> as far as i remember it was http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1/Debian
> which i added to my sources.list
> i also noticed that some other programs are probably not installed. i
> have a lot of this "gearwheel"-icons on my start bar and i get
> similary messages as described above if i click on them.
> sorry that i can´t tell you the exactly messages, but i´m working
> outside this week. I´ll post it at the weekend.

Okay. If you are running KDE3.1 on Woody, I suggest you use the uptodate 
packages provided by Ralf Nolden.

The appropriate deb-line is:

  deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main

And there is a README at:

  http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README

After reading the above file, you should try

  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

and then install any other programs you feel you are missing.

Please let the list know if you require more help or encounter any 
problems not answered in the above README file or in the Debian-KDE FAQ 
at http://www.davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html. You can also get 
help by joining the #debian-kde IRC channel on irc.debian.org.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE3.1 -> kfmclient not found

2003-03-10 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 10 Mar 2003 21:27, Thomas Mammitzsch wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Cupis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: KDE3.1 -> kfmclient not found
>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> i´ve installed kde 3.1 by dselect on my woody pc. it worked, but
> >> if click on my home-icon, i get this message "KDEInit could not
> >> launch "kfmclient": Could not find "kfmclient"
> >> executable." I also couldn´t find kfmclient in dselect. What went
> >> wrong?
> >
> >kdmclient is in the konqueror package. Do you have this installed?
>
> hmm, no i mean kfmclient, not kdmclient. Don´t know if thats the
> same. And no, i have no konqueror installed, actually. I´ll try this
> out. In this case, shouldn´t there be an automatic dependency to
> konqueror if kde gets installed?

Yeah, typo on my part. kfmclient (with an 'f', not a 'd') is in the 
konqueror package. Hopefully someone will look into why you did not get 
it installed - can you post with the exact path you took to get kde3 
installed, please? (well as detailed as you can remember).

Thank you, and sorry for the confusion.

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE3.1 -> kfmclient not found

2003-03-10 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 10 Mar 2003 13:59, Thomas Mammitzsch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i´ve installed kde 3.1 by dselect on my woody pc. it worked, but if
> click on my home-icon, i get this message "KDEInit could not launch
> "kfmclient": Could not find "kfmclient"
> executable." I also couldn´t find kfmclient in dselect. What went
> wrong?

kdmclient is in the konqueror package. Do you have this installed?

Paul Cupis
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kdebindings 3.1 (sid)

2003-03-09 Thread Paul Cupis
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Hi all,

Does anyone have any information on the state of kdebindings 3.1 for 
sid? I haven't heard anything on them since around 3.0.4, and then it 
was that they were in a bad state.

Is anyone currently working on this?

Thanks,

Paul Cupis
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Re: Upgrade from Woody(stable) to KDE3.1

2003-03-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 21:44, L. A. Linden Levy wrote:
> Hi I am looking to do this upgrade...can you tell me what the
> "Ralf's" source is. i.e. What should I put in my sources.list or
> where you are downloading the .deb's. Thanks for the help.

Ralf has a good README available on his webspace, with the debs. It is 
important that you read it if you intend to use his debs.

  http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: X4.3.0 packages?

2003-03-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 13:29, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
> Could anybody tell me where can I find X4.3.0 packages for sid?
> Thanx in advance

http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README

(and for reference about official packages, 
http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/xsf.html)

Paul Cupis
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Re: compiling sim - qlist.h not found

2003-03-06 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 22:30, Andreas Richter wrote:
> in which pakage i can find the qlist.h file?

package libqt3-compat-headers

In general, you can find this sort of information using the the 
packages.debian.org website, or using the apt-file or auto-apt 
programs.

Paul Cupis
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Re: KDE metapackage (was: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?)

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 04 Mar 2003 11:28, Ben Burton wrote:
> > ... and the
> > prospect of a simple kde metapackage for easy installation for
> > newbies seems a farfetched dream.
>
> I'll adopt meta-kde if Chris isn't taking it (it's currently
> orphaned, though there's no wnpp bug AFAICT).  If I don't hear
> otherwise in a few days I'll fix it up and do a new upload.

I was going to do the same :) I asked Chris about it and he said that he 
was intending to upload a new meta-kde when he had got kdenetwork and 
kdepim into sid.

Paul Cupis
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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 04 Mar 2003 04:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At least with k3b, there is a way to simply not have the wizard
> change anything.  I only used cdbakeoven long enough to figure out
> that it does not have my killer feature*, so I'll just take your word
> for it not having the same thing :-)

cdbakeoven's wizard can be told not to change anything, but I think that 
this may be at the cost of some of it's features, such as some of it's 
konqueror integration.

Paul Cupis.
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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 23:34, David Bishop wrote:
> On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
[re: k3b]
> > I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first
> > package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It
> > made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a
> > bad idea. k3b also
>
> Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd
> burning on linux, bar none.  Relying upon distributions to make this
> easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the
> app authors end up working around this.  k3b is *not* the only cd
> burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing.

It does, and it can be a right pain.

Debian systems do have infrastructure for CD-Burning facilities to have 
the correct permissions already setup (via the cdrom group), so I am 
going to try and get cdbakeoven upstream to either allow the setuptool 
to be seeded with answers or bypassed, at least for Debian systems.

Paul Cupis
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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 18:34, Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard.
>
> Make a cdimage from a folder:
>
> mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder
>
> Get your dev numbers:
>
> cdrecord -scanbus
>
> For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output:
>
> scsibus0:
> 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10   ' 'H.KF' Removable
> CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) *
> 0,2,0 2) *
> 0,3,0 3) *
> 0,4,0 4) *
> 0,5,0 5) *
> 0,6,0 6) *
> 0,7,0 7)
>
> Now do the burn:
>
> cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso
>
> You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it
> all in one easy go.

A wrapper script? Why not just set the default device to use in 
/etc/default/cdrecord, per the maintaners suggestion?

Paul Cupis
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Re: Upgrade report: Woody/KDE2.2 -> Sid+/KDE3.1

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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[ p.s., I'm on the list, no need to cc: me ]

On Monday 03 Mar 2003 00:17, Peter Nome wrote:
> Thanks for the very useful report. What would be helpful is if you
> could send us a copy of the relevant parts of your sources.list --
> I'm unfamiliar with the way you tweak it to set priorities.

Okay, for the purposes of this exercise, I've effectively got:

deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other ./
deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim ./

in my sources.list, and:

Package: *
Pin: release unstable
Pin-priority: 800

Package: *
Pin: origin people.debian.org
Pin-Priority: 880

Package: *
Pin: origin phebehouse.dyndns.org
Pin-Priority: 850

in my /etc/apt/preferences file.

This tells apt to give Debian/unstable a priority of 800 (i.e. higher 
than already installed debs and higher than the default for 'other' 
sources), but gives the two unofficial sources even higher priority 
than Debian unstable.

This means that the unofficial debs of kdenetwork and kdepim will be 
prefered over the old ones in Debian/unstable, but Debian/unstable will 
be used for everything else (i.e. everything not in the two unofficial 
sources).

Please ask if you would like further details.

Paul Cupis
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Re: QT Version Problem

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 16:36, Robert Tilley wrote:
> When attempting to compile cdbakeoven, the following occured:
>
>   
>   checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021))
> (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
>   
>
> This same error occurs with most software for KDE 3.1 that I try to
> compile. I have installed KDE 3.1 on my Debian unstable box and am
> clueless as to why this occurs.  If I have KDE 3.1, don't I
> automatically require and therefore have QT 3.1?

What libqt3 packages do you have installed? Can you try running:

  apt-get build-dep cdbakeoven

please?

Also, do you realise that cdbakeoven is available from sid?

Paul Cupis
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Re: cdbakeoven

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 15:36, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I installed cdbakeoven on my machine this past weekend.  During the
> > configuration, it wanted to add my cdburner to fstab as /dev/hdd.
> > The burner is already working properly as /dev/scd0.
> >
> > Is there any advantage to having it listed as /dev/hdd in addition
> > to /dev/scd0?  Am I missing something obvious here?
>
> If it's a scsi burner, it should not be listed as /dev/hdd, because
> /dev/hdd normally is the name for the slave on the secondary ide
> channel. Maybe some cdbakeoven drive detection problem?

Yes, it does. Both the autodetection and the setup wizard still need 
some work, particularly for Debian use.

Paul Cupis
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Upgrade report: Woody/KDE2.2 -> Sid+/KDE3.1

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Cupis
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Hello,

A couple of days ago I dist-upgraded a Woody box to Sid+bits in order to 
test the upgrade path from KDE2.2 to KDE3.1.

This is long email - the interesting part is in the section titled 
'Problems' below.

Executive Summary:

The KDE3 packages are great and a clean upgrade path seems to be 
basically ready. It is (or course) pending the last few packages being 
uploaded, and dependancies modifying such that apt-get dist-upgrade 
from Woody->Sid now (or eventually Debian 3.0 to Debian 3.1) will 
include kdebase(-data).


System setup:

The original system was Debian Woody (i386). The only non-Woody 
packages/programs installed were an old backport of openoffice.org, a 
backported guarddog package and a third party Winmodem driver.

In effect, to do the upgrade I editted my sources.list and added 
'testing' and 'unstable' official Debian sources to match the 'stable' 
ones, and added the following two deb lines for kdenetwork and kdepim:

  deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other ./
  deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim ./

I manipulated my /etc/apt/preferences file to depreciate use of 
Debian/stable and to give Debian/unstable preference. I also gave the 
two apt sources above (for kdenetwork/kdepim) a higher priority that 
Debian unstable, in order to depreciate the older debs for these 
packages currently available from official Debian mirrors.

As far as apt was concerned the available packages and priorities should 
match what an end user have available when KDE3 has been completely 
uploaded to Sid. My aim was to see how ready the packaging is for 
Woody->Released Sarge dist-upgrades.

The KDE installation on the machine was fairly typical (I believe) for a 
desktop machine - kdm, koffice, most of kdeadmin/kdegraphics, some of 
kdemultimedia and kdenetwork et cetera. KDE was the default/primary 
user environment on the machine.


The dist-upgrade:

With the above system setup, and with apt told that the machine should 
be sid+kdenetwork+kdepim, I ran:

  apt-get -u dist-upgrade

The actual upgrade was very smooth, especially as I was upgrading every 
installed app/package to Debian Sid, not just upgrading KDE. The only 
question I can remember being asked wrt KDE was about replacing the 
kdmrc file.


Problems?:

The (KDE) upgrade not only was quite hands-off, but worked very well, 
aside from just one thing.

During the dist-upgrade, apt removed the kdebase package, instead of 
upgrading it. This meant that the kdebase-data package was not pulled 
in, which meant that I did not get any .directory files installed in 
/usr/share/applnk, which in turn gave me a K-Menu which was messier 
than it should have been. Also, this package contains the KDE-default 
supplied desktop wallpapers - the kdewallpapers package from KDE2.2 
also remained installed (was not removed/upgraded).

For reference, running grep-available suggests only one KDE3 package in 
Debian Sid Dependng on or Recommending kdebase (kpat). Running 
grep-available with kdebase-data shows that only kdebase and kpat 
Depend or Recommend it.

I believe that kdebase-data must be required for more than just kpat, 
therefore I would like to see this fixed - perhaps some core KDE 
packages should Depend/Recommend kdebase(-data).

And before anyone else says it: kwin does Suggest: kdebase-data, but apt 
does not normally heed Suggestions of this sort, so that is not good 
enough. And I know that the new kde meta-package will Depend on 
kdebase, but I don't think that this will help in the general case of 
people upgrading from Debian 3.0 to 3.1.

How to reproduce?

  # apt-get remove kdebase-data
  $ update-menus

and look at your K-Menu.

How to fix?

  # apt-get install kdebase-data
  $ update-menus


Conclusion:

Thanks must go to all that have been working on these packages.

I will most likely be doing some more upgrade testng of this sort in the 
coming months... - please let me know if there is are any upgrade 
scenarios etc you would like testing and I'll see if I can accomodate 
you. It is not currently my intent to test upgrades from Ralf's Woody 
backport, but if people think that it would be useful, please let me 
know and I may change my mind.

Also, if there are any logs or other useful information which I might 
gather during these upgrades, please let me know.


Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: how to change "normal" sized font in konsole

2003-02-28 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 28 Feb 2003 09:46, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> i am using sid's kde 3.1 and the "normal" sized font in konsole
> is rather awkward. it is much wider then the others and does not
> look good, either.
>
> is there a way to replace that font with one which is better
> suited?
>
> there does not seem to be anything in the bts on this, is anyone
> else seeing this?

Yes. Try disabling anti-aliased fonts or selecting the custom font 
'Lucidiatypewriter' size 8. And save the settings.

Paul Cupis
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Re: Compile problem with kde/qt apps

2003-02-28 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 28 Feb 2003 00:37, Marco Laverdière wrote:

> The error message I get is:
> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library
> qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
> Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!"

Do you have libqt3-mt-dev installed?

Paul Cupis
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