Re: Bug#231392: konqueror: Can't talk to klauncher

2004-02-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Monday 09 February 2004 16:54, Dominique Devriese wrote:
 Peter Nuttall writes:
  On Monday 09 February 2004 12:46, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
  Hello Peter,
 
  On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:25:10PM +, Peter Nuttall wrote:
   Thanks for reporting the bug. can you tell be if the same problem
   happens within kde itself?
 
  Mmh, that'll be difficult. Since it only happens sometimes, this
  would mean I would have to use KDE for a longer time which I really
  would like to avoid[1]. If you have anything which requires testing
  once, I could install KDE, try it out, and remove it again.
 
  sinp
 
  The reason I asked was becuase kde has this thing called DCOP which
  lets kde programs talk to each other (like IPC in a tty). I was
  thinking that it wasn't running in wmaker. (klauncher is part of
  this). You could check if it is running with the kdcop program, if
  you have konqi installed, then it should already be there. The
  problems you are descibing sound like a problem with the dcop system
  to me.

 The dcopserver is supposed to be started by kde apps if it is not
 already running.

 The klauncher warning is probably unrelated to the bug, as it is
 issued by kded when it can't run the cache update program with
 klauncher.  After this warning, it falls back to the system call for
 starting the program, and this is probably not a problem.

 cheers
 domi
 Domi, are you saying the bug isn't a problem, or the error message?
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Bug#231392: konqueror: Can't talk to klauncher

2004-02-06 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Friday 06 February 2004 08:39, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
 Package: konqueror
 Version: 4:3.1.3-1
 Severity: normal

 I run wmaker and use the session support by wmaker to restore the
 windows when X is started with startx.

 Konqueror-windows are opened fine, but sometimes I get for every
 window the error message (a button):
 Could not start process Can't talk to klauncher

 If you want I can provide a screenshot of this.


 I tried manually starting klauncher with
 klauncher 
 but this does not help (nor do I see a process klauncher running
 afterwards).

 The same error appears when pressing the Home button, and local file
 directory browsing is impossible; the file open dialog is also
 unusuable.

 This also happend with konqueror under woody, but was not reported.

 I am not sure how to properly debug this to report the error more
 precicesly. Please tell me what to look for/at when this happenes next
 time, to provide you with the necessary details.

 My *impression* (!!) is, that it is related to system load. If only
 one konqueror window is to be openend, the error is a lot less likly
 to occur; also usually the system has some load when X is started
 directly after boot (e.g. checksecurity), so it takes a while for the
 konqueror windows to appear (much later than e.g. the xterms). But I
 might be wrong on that guess.

 It would be great if at least a possibility existed, to (re)start
 klauncher manually instead of having unusuable konqueror windows.

 Even better would be, if all windows could be opend at once (with the
 proper location on the screen and maybe even the proper directories).
 But I know KDE has decided against this route.

 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: testing/unstable
 Architecture: alpha
 Kernel: Linux sixtyfor 2.4.21-pre1 #1 Don Okt 2 18:27:25 CEST 2003 alpha
 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Versions of packages konqueror depends on:
 ii  kate4:3.1.3-1KDE Advanced Text Editor
 ii  kcontrol4:3.1.3-1KDE Control Center
 ii  kdelibs44:3.1.4-3KDE core libraries
 ii  kfind   4:3.1.3-1KDE File Find Utility
 ii  libart-2.0-22.3.8-1  The Gnome 2 canvas widget -
 runtim ii  libc6.1 2.3.2.ds1-10 GNU C Library: Shared
 libraries an ii  libfam0c102 2.6.10-6 client library to
 control the FAM ii  libgcc1 1:3.3.2-4GCC support
 library
 ii  libjpeg62   6b-9 The Independent JPEG Group's
 JPEG ii  libkonq44:3.1.3-1Core libraries for KDE's
 file mana ii  libpcre34.3-3Philip Hazel's Perl
 5 Compatible R ii  libpng12-0  1.2.5.0-4PNG library -
 runtime ii  libqt3c102-mt   3:3.2.1-6Qt GUI Library
 (Threaded runtime v ii  libstdc++5  1:3.3.2-4The GNU
 Standard C++ Library v3 ii  libxrender1 0.8.3-5  X
 Rendering Extension client libra ii  xlibs   4.2.1-12.1
   X Window System client libraries ii  zlib1g 
 1:1.2.1-3compression library - runtime

 -- debconf information:
 * konqueror/crypto:
hi

Thanks for reporting the bug. can you tell be if the same problem happens 
within kde itself?

Pete
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Re: check the wiki

2004-02-05 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 05 February 2004 19:42, Yves Glodt wrote:
 On Thursday 05 February 2004 20:26, Peter Nuttall wrote:
  On Thursday 05 February 2004 19:08, Yves Glodt wrote:
   Hi,
   subject says all,
  
   TIA!
 
  as above:
  http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE

 Thank you for the information, however it triggered another question...

 When could KDE 3.1.5 make it into testing? I (and I guess many other
 users too), wanna just know if I wait, or go experimental. I prefer
 staying unstable as it is less likely to break stuff...

 regards,
 Yves
It is a good question. As you might know, debian is warming up to relase its 
next version: sarge. as the testing branch is what will become sarge, then it 
is in a state of flux at present. on one hand, the debian higher-ups would 
prefer it if the kde matainers did not upgrade kde futher in sarge. this 
would lessen pressure on the bbluids and mean that they could finsh sarge and 
get it out the door  on the other hand, the debian kde people would want 
sarge to release with the latest version of kde, if not 3.2 at least 3.1.5. 
this would fix lots of bugs. Also as long as people keep breaking the kde 
packages in sarge by upgrading libs and the toolchain, then the debian kde 
people will be upgrading and fixing the packages anyway, and does it matter 
that they are now the latest version?

in conclusion, we have no idea when 3.1.5 is going to move to testing, but it 
will probably be a week or two. the packages in experamental are iffy at 
present, they suffer from a lot of packaging bugs. then again, people have 
got them to work. it is your machine and I can not tell you what to do with 
it, so make up your own mind. 

best of luck

pete

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Re: Anyone else getting frequent Konqueror segfaults?

2003-12-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 10 Dec 2003 4:17 am, Doug Holland wrote:
 On Tue 09 Dec 2003 2:40 pm, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 December 2003 21:16, James Wells wrote:
   I'm running 2.4.22-1-k7 and I get the same problem when dragging from
   one Konqueror window to another.
 
  I think we should open a bug for this. Could someone do it and post a
  link to it so we can comment on it?
 
  Anders
 
  --
  This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.4 on Debian GNU/Linux

 There is one already: Bug#222662 at bugs.debian.org.

 Meldroc

I just looked though the bug report and I think it is a problem with the 
kernel package rather than with konqueror because I can not produce it on my 
machine which is running a self-compiled kernel (2.4.22). I find it quite 
hard to segfault konqueror, normally it just hangs if it can not cope with 
something.


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Re: KDE keyboard layout

2003-12-07 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 8:23 pm, herve wrote:
 Hi i have kde 3.1.4 and a logitech keyboard cordless desktop the one with
 the optical mouse (4 btn) + wheel on the left of the keyboard.
 I chose in configuration panel the option logitech Cordless desktop pro
 aplly the nex settings, logout and relog but nothing appen...

 Could someone help me to use the multimedia keys of this keyboard??

snip

 All help would be very appreciated...this keyboard turns me crazy :-(

 Thx in advance

 Hervé
hi
I have a multimedia keyboard I use the multimedia buttons by having the kde 
keyboard tool running in the background. To set this up open the control 
center and go to the regional and Accessibilty menu then to Keyboard layout. 
Enter the country that you come from and the model of your keyboard. (you may 
have to guess the model or use a differant model) apply this then see if you 
can set any of the multimedia buttons in any of the standard shortcut 
dialogs. 

This is a simple and fast explanion of how to do it. If you have any problems 
post them. good luck

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Re: Orphaning Packages

2003-10-23 Thread Peter Nuttall
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On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 7:10 pm, Chris Cheney wrote:
 I have orphaned the following packages for anyone interested in adopting
 them:

 arts
 hdparm
 jasper
 jfsutils
 kdeadmin
 kdebase
 kdegraphics
 kdelibs
 kdenetwork
 kdepim
 kdeutils
 libboulder-perl
 libcflow-perl
 libconfigreader-perl
 libhtml-table-perl
 libnet-patricia-perl
 libusb
 meta-kde
 usbutils

 Thanks,
 Chris Cheney

I'm not a debian developer but I could do one or two of the higher-level kde 
things, such as kdenetwork or kdeadmin. I will do what I can before becoming 
a developer, reading thougfh the new mantainers stuff on www.debian.org in 
suggests doing some packing before becoming a developer.

thanks

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the kde meta-package or BTS #211985

2003-10-23 Thread Peter Nuttall
and #212933
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:10:58 +0100
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attempt to just install a base kde system ( ie not kde-amusements, kdeaddon=
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Re: the kde meta-package or BTS #211985

2003-10-23 Thread Peter Nuttall
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On Thursday 23 Oct 2003 7:33 pm, Chris Cheney wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 04:10:11PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote:
  and #212933
  Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:10:58 +0100
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  Hi=20
 
  I was looking at the BTS for kde while reading some other debian-qt-kde
  mai= l=20
  and I saw that the meta kde package seems to be always broken. I think
  this= =20
  is because it depends on a big chunk of the kde packages (fontconfig,=20
  kde-core, kde-amusements, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork,
  kdegraphics,=20 kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and
  quanta)and if any= =20
  one of them is broken or is not compatible with any other then it falls
  ove= r.=20
  Since the normal advice on debian-kde is not to use this and the wiki=20
  ( http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE ) also says not to use this, could it
  be= =20
  changed to just show the normal install instructions though debconf or=20
  attempt to just install a base kde system ( ie not kde-amusements,
  kdeaddon= s,=20
  kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and quanta)

 Why not use kde-core which already only depends on the minimal packages:
 arts, kdelibs, kdebase...
my point was questioning the value of a meta-package that would be the logical 
thing to install if you were wanting kde but that seemed to be both big and 
broken.

 However, in the past the part that keeps
 getting broken is kdebase which happens to be one of the most important
 packages. kdemultimedia is currently broken but that is due to the
 gcc-3.3 transition (#203303), once glibc is fixed properly this is
 unlikely to happen again. As I understand it glibc will be fixed
 sometime next week.

thanks for that data

 That said meta-kde will be restructured very soon in that unofficial KDE
 apps will no longer be mentioned by meta-kde directly, there will be a
 second meta-kde-extras source that provides metapackages for them. This
 will allow backports to use meta-kde without unsolvable dependencies.


this is want I was asking for.  but went you talk of 'unofficial' packages are 
you refering to the kde things like the games and the multimedia packages or 
koffice and quanta or things like juk and arson?
 Chris

thanks

ps sorry about the email. I think the subject was too long.
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Re: When's kvim going to be updated?

2003-10-01 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 3:43 pm, Ben Burton wrote:
   Somebody update kvim, TODAY!!!
 
   give chris a break

 Well, FWIW Chris isn't responsible for kvim anyway:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ apt-cache show kvim
   Package: kvim
   ...
   Maintainer: Mickael Marchand [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 b.

I owe Doug Holland and everyone on the list an apology. I am sorry I jumped on 
on you without checking but it was 1:45 in the morning my time and I was 
doing something important so I just snapped and shot my mouth off. I get 
annoyed when people make demands on debian and its devlopers, even more so 
when using unstable, which - as the name Implies - contains bugs and 
problems. 

sorry again
 
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Re: Upgrade Issue

2003-09-30 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 4:26 pm, Jeff wrote:

snip
 I have a sarge system running kde from sid.

 Can anyone explain what should be happening with kde?  I just want to
 make sure I don't hose down my system.


the problem is that kde is very big and it is taking time to build and load 
all the kde packages for sid. Chris Cheney, the guy who does the kde packages 
says that the upload will be done by Oct 7th. You might want to wait until 
all the packages are uploaded. 

pete 

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Re: smb printing

2003-09-29 Thread Peter Nuttall
Thanks for the reply it is working now.

pete
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smb printing

2003-09-28 Thread Peter Nuttall
hi,

I have a home network that has two win98 computers and my debian sid box. I 
have set the printer on one of the windows boxes to be shared over the 
network. Can I print from kde on debian and it come out of the windows 
printer?

I am sorry if this is a little OT but I use kde and kde based apps (such as 
koffice) mainly and I just want kde to print.

Thanks

peter
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Re: Xinerama Support in kde 3.1.3 unstable tree

2003-09-27 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 1:37 pm, Reto Spoerri wrote:
 Hello,

 I've setup my Computer with Xinerama and found an option in kde Control
 Center (Desktop - Window Behavior - Advanced) Enable Xinerama support
 but i cant enable it (it's gray). Anybody knows what i can do to get this
 option available?

can you do it when root?

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Re: Kopete is impressive.. .

2003-09-26 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 4:41 pm, Tom Badran wrote:
 I just installed kopete for the first time since about last november and
 all i can say is _wow_, i cant believe how much it has improved in that
 time, in fact ive even removed gaim now in favor of kopete.


Do you find that it slows down badly on high volume IRC channels such as 
#debian? 

pete




Re: Problem with kmail Filter

2003-09-24 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 7:58 pm, Philippe Merlin wrote:
 Hello,
 I use Kmail 1.5.4 in kde 3.1.4  French and all the Pop Filter i configure
 does not work: My mail box is actually spammed with messages of 150 Ko and
 if i filter with size it does'nt work. Filter on subject or from  does not
 work. Happily someone tell me about software mailfilter and it work fine.
 May i have help to configure filter on Kde.
 Thank you.
 Philou75

hi, 

Try setting it to Filiter on any of the following rather than all of the 
following.
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Re: No KDE widgets in Qt Designer

2003-09-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 10:38 am, Michael Thaler wrote:
 Hello,

 I don't get any KDE widget's with Qt Designer. I'm using Qt Designer
 and KDE 3.1.3 from SID. How can I configure Qt Designer to also show
 me the KDE Widgets?

 Greetings,
 Michael

hi,

Are you running woody as your base system with sid backports, or a full sid 
system?  Its just that a lot of people have problems with the back ports. 

pete
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electric sheep and kde

2003-09-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
hello,

I would like to use the electric sheep screen saver program with my kde 
desktop. I am runnig debian sid with kde 3.1.3 if that makes any differance. 
Can someone help me with this?

thanks in advance,

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kde packages

2003-09-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
Hi,

When I have been runnig apt-get upgrade on my sid box I have noticed that some 
of the packages are not being upgraded. Can some one tell me why?

pete

ps: list of the packages:

cervisia
kbabel
kdemultimedia
kompare 
kspy 
kvlc
libqt3-compat-headers 
libqt3-headers 
libqt3-mt-dev 
libqt3-plugins-headers
libqt3c102 
libqt3c102-mt 
qt3-designer
qt3-dev-tools transcode vlc

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Re: kde packages

2003-09-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 11:09 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 September 2003 22:59, Peter Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  When I have been runnig apt-get upgrade on my sid box I have noticed
  that some of the packages are not being upgraded. Can some one tell
  me why?

 They are probably waiting for to authorise installing a new package.
 Have you tried looking at the output of:

   apt-get -u dist-upgrade

sinp

Thanks That worked fine. Two quick questions though;

1. should you run apt-get dist-upgrade as well as apt-get upgrade?

2. what does the -u flag do? the man page is not too clear.

thanks again

pete

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Re: LILO Problems

2003-09-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Thursday 11 Sep 2003 1:38 am, Robert Tilley wrote:
 I recently aptitude installed linux kernel image 2.6.0-test4-1-386. 
 However, LILO will not run without error.

 debian-rti:/# lilo
 Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
 Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' - '/dev/hda'
 The kernel was compiled with DEVFS_FS, but 'devfs=mount' was omitted
 as a kernel command-line boot parameter; hence, the '/dev'
 directory structure does not reflect DEVFS_FS device names.
 Added Linux-old
 Added Linux-stable *
 Fatal: Kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.0-test4 is too big

 Can anyone offer suggestions as to how to successfully install 2.6.0?  I've
 never heard of a 'kernel too big' error.  I've even tried using the KDE
 LILO control-panel module to no avail.
 --
 Comments are appreciated,

 Bob

hi,

Your first problem is that you are trying to use devfs. this is replacement 
for the /dev system. You need to try the commands lilo is suggesting 
otherwise your kernel will not be able to find your / partion. (i think).

Your other problem is that early versions of lilo do not support large 
kernels. what version of lilo (and debian) are you running?

you could also try building it yourself. this might well fix both problems.

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Re: LILO Problems

2003-09-10 Thread Peter Nuttall
sinp

  debian-rti:/# lilo
  Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
  Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' - '/dev/hda'
  The kernel was compiled with DEVFS_FS, but 'devfs=mount' was omitted
  as a kernel command-line boot parameter; hence, the '/dev'
  directory structure does not reflect DEVFS_FS device names.

sinp

/dev is supposted to be worthwhile if you use usb or firewire but the old 
system is just fine for any thing else.

pete

oh, this is OT 
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