[desktop] Re: why kde and gnome's menu situation sucks
On 10/24/2002 10:22 AM, Tim Wheeler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i know for myself, and to a much greater degree, for the people i support, it > is counter-productive to have to search into the menu tree to find tasks. i > don't like that some items are buried under debian folders. i don't want a > kde system or a gnome system. i want a gnu/linux desktop. a beauty of > opensource is that products can work together (there's no hidden api's)--at > least when political agendas don't get in the way. > Well, Debian Desktop does seek to present a really elegant and simple menu hierarchy. As for mixing QT and GTK apps within a single menu, well, that is being debated. I tend to favor segregation for now. > the free/free software movement has a healthy dislike of bad decisions made > because of money, but shows inconsistency in its silence about bad decisions > made because of politics (and i'm not talking about issues of freedom). > > if nothing else, hear this plea for gnome and kde to work together... at > least in debian. > Agreed. Within the free software movement, decsions should not be made on the basis of politics. My hope is that good technical arguments will emerge that strongly support various decisions taken, and that we can avoid as much politics as possible. Heh. Am I sadly naive or what? ;-) Cheers, Luke Seubert
[desktop] Re: why kde and gnome's menu situation sucks
On 10/24/2002 10:21 AM, Matthew Garrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not convinced. Different toolkits behave differently. A naive user > shouldn't have to understand why their KDE-based mail client behaves > slightly differently to their Gnome-based news client. I dislike using > non-GTK applications, and I'm willing to accept a slight reduction in > functionality to achieve this. > Good point. This is another good technical reason to segregate Gnome and KDE and have a menu linking to different apps based upon which toolset/libraries are loaded, i.e. which desktop environment the user is using. Now, that said, it would be nice if Debian Desktop developed a set Debian branded themes across all the major GUIs that had common color pallettes, icons, wallpaper, themes, etc. I do not mean making KDE and Gnome look exactly alike - just similar Debian oriented themes. Those special qualities that make KDE and Gnome special unto themselves should be there to shine through :-) And down the road, I would like to do some serious reasearch into User Interface best practices, and tweak the configuration settings for KDE, Gnome, et al so that they behave in a manner consisten with best UI practice. But there are other things more urgent that need work for now. Cheers, Luke Seubert
