A suggestion: i18n for KOffice

2002-09-16 Thread Pablo de Vicente
Hello,

 I would like to propose a change to the KOffice packagers to include an 
independent i18n package for KOffice.

At the moment translations for the different languages are provided in 
kde-i18n-xx packages, according to the main KDE releases. However KDE 
releases are not in sync with KOffice releases, because they are independent. 
This leads to having the latest KOffice packages for the latest stable branch 
but not its corresponding updated translations.

 I can show this with an example; now Ben Burton has released KOffice 1.2, but 
the translations for this version are in the HEAD branch and are tagged as 
KOFFICE_1_2_RELEASE. However the KOffice 1.2 packages are built for KDE 
3.0.3, which I think is __totally__ correct. On the other hand the 
translations applied to KOffice come from the KDE_3_0_BRANCH, so that some 
applications appear partially translated and others not translated at all, 
while the translations are completed in the CVS.

  I propose a solution for this, but I am sorry because it means more work for 
the KOffice packager (Ben Burton in this case), it would be to release 
koffice-i18n-xx packages, which would be created extracting from the CVS all 
messages and documents tagged as KOFFICE_X_Y_RELEASE. And to prevent that the 
files with messages and documentation are not overwritten by the kde-i18n-xx 
packages, the koffice part of this package should be removed from the 
kde-i18n-xx packages.

regards, and many thanks to all Debian packagers for KDE for their work.

Pablo de Vicente
KDE-es translation team.




Re: A suggestion: i18n for KOffice

2002-09-16 Thread David Pashley
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On Monday 16 September 2002 11:13 am, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
 Hello,

  I would like to propose a change to the KOffice packagers to include an
 independent i18n package for KOffice.

 At the moment translations for the different languages are provided in
 kde-i18n-xx packages, according to the main KDE releases. However KDE
 releases are not in sync with KOffice releases, because they are
 independent. This leads to having the latest KOffice packages for the
 latest stable branch but not its corresponding updated translations.

  I can show this with an example; now Ben Burton has released KOffice 1.2,
 but the translations for this version are in the HEAD branch and are tagged
 as KOFFICE_1_2_RELEASE. However the KOffice 1.2 packages are built for KDE
 3.0.3, which I think is __totally__ correct. On the other hand the
 translations applied to KOffice come from the KDE_3_0_BRANCH, so that some
 applications appear partially translated and others not translated at all,
 while the translations are completed in the CVS.

   I propose a solution for this, but I am sorry because it means more work
 for the KOffice packager (Ben Burton in this case), it would be to release
 koffice-i18n-xx packages, which would be created extracting from the CVS
 all messages and documents tagged as KOFFICE_X_Y_RELEASE. And to prevent
 that the files with messages and documentation are not overwritten by the
 kde-i18n-xx packages, the koffice part of this package should be removed
 from the kde-i18n-xx packages.

 regards, and many thanks to all Debian packagers for KDE for their work.

 Pablo de Vicente
 KDE-es translation team.

This is really an upstream problem. They probably should not have seperate 
releases for koffice and KDE, but have all the translations in one place
maybe you could suggest that they split up the koffice and kde translations.

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Re: A suggestion: i18n for KOffice

2002-09-16 Thread Ben Burton
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Hi.

 I would like to propose a change to the KOffice packagers to include an
 independent i18n package for KOffice.

Indeed, doing koffice i18n properly has been on my TODO list for a long time 
now; it's highly non-trivial though which is why I haven't done it to date.  
I suspect I need to bump it up to a higher priority. :)

The fact that koffice and kde are on independent release schedules does make a 
strong argument for separating koffice-i18n from kde-i18n.  It's not clear 
though how a separate koffice-i18n should be done; one massive koffice-i18n 
(an inconveniently large package) or many small koffice-i18n-xx packages (yet 
more package bloat)?  There are strong arguments for each, as well as 
arguments for keeping koffice stuff in the kde-i18n-xx packages regardless of 
the release schedule.

Hmm.. I'll think on it some more; suggestions are of course welcome (mailed to 
debian-kde would be great).

Ben.

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Re: A suggestion: i18n for KOffice

2002-09-16 Thread Benoit Mortier
Le Lundi 16 Septembre 2002 14:18, Ben Burton a écrit :

 The fact that koffice and kde are on independent release schedules does
 make a strong argument for separating koffice-i18n from kde-i18n.  It's not
 clear though how a separate koffice-i18n should be done; one massive
 koffice-i18n (an inconveniently large package) or many small
 koffice-i18n-xx packages (yet more package bloat)?  There are strong

i'am in favor of small packages for koffice. I can help for that i it is 
needed.

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