Font Woes
I'm currently using the Luxi Sans font (part of ttf-xfree86-nonfree) on my desktop. For some strange reason, the font looks very ugly. http://www.dolda2000.com/~bpark/snapshot7.png Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this problem? bp
Re: Font Woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 May 2004 12:52 am, Bruce Park wrote: I'm currently using the Luxi Sans font (part of ttf-xfree86-nonfree) on my desktop. For some strange reason, the font looks very ugly. http://www.dolda2000.com/~bpark/snapshot7.png Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this problem? bp Is there any reason to believe that it should look better? Some fonts just look ugl. Sean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqIEc+vaNXagSMEIRAl//AJ9Mvvw+RmxbTyN1+JnxKODypQgbPACdHFYs RCq2s1dHOebG95CjM0UdKtQ= =U/mq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Font Woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 17 May 2004 12:52 am, Bruce Park wrote: I'm currently using the Luxi Sans font (part of ttf-xfree86-nonfree) on my desktop. For some strange reason, the font looks very ugly. I suspect you dislike the fact that some parts of the characters seem to be uneven. I suggest you try turning off hinting. This will give the font renderer more freedom to make the characters the correct shape, instead of trying so hard to align them on pixel boundaries. Hinting is essential when using non-antialiased fonts, but when using antialiasing (which you are), the limitations imposed by hinting do not improve the smoothness of the font rendering, and often make it worse. Luxi Sans with hinting: http://houseofnate.net/tmp/hinting.png Luxi Sans without hinting: http://houseofnate.net/tmp/no-hinting.png Try putting the following stanza in either your /etc/fonts/local.conf or ~/.fonts.conf: !-- Turns off hinting entirely -- match target=font edit name=hinting mode=assign boolfalse/bool /edit /match (All that said, Luxi Sans isn't a great-quality font. And it's non-free. You can do better than that! =) Cheers, nate - -- Make sure your vote will count. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqOfb25cAeUrFyDIRAjVvAJ49dmqrgqCt7gz5wZaE820YdfYjVgCfbYlE rNwLO5MswawJq09KZG7OykQ= =u1S3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Font Woes
Sean J. Fraley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 May 2004 12:52 am, Bruce Park wrote: I'm currently using the Luxi Sans font (part of ttf-xfree86-nonfree) on my desktop. For some strange reason, the font looks very ugly. http://www.dolda2000.com/~bpark/snapshot7.png Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this problem? bp Is there any reason to believe that it should look better? Some fonts just look ugl. Sean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqIEc+vaNXagSMEIRAl//AJ9Mvvw+RmxbTyN1+JnxKODypQgbPACdHFYs RCq2s1dHOebG95CjM0UdKtQ= =U/mq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Initially, I just gave up on the fact that in Debian, I'll never have these fonts but if Fedora (and RH) can handle them so nicely, there's no reason why Debian can't do the same. bp
Re: Font Woes
Nathaniel W. Turner wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 17 May 2004 12:52 am, Bruce Park wrote: I'm currently using the Luxi Sans font (part of ttf-xfree86-nonfree) on my desktop. For some strange reason, the font looks very ugly. I suspect you dislike the fact that some parts of the characters seem to be uneven. I suggest you try turning off hinting. This will give the font renderer more freedom to make the characters the correct shape, instead of trying so hard to align them on pixel boundaries. Hinting is essential when using non-antialiased fonts, but when using antialiasing (which you are), the limitations imposed by hinting do not improve the smoothness of the font rendering, and often make it worse. Luxi Sans with hinting: http://houseofnate.net/tmp/hinting.png Luxi Sans without hinting: http://houseofnate.net/tmp/no-hinting.png Try putting the following stanza in either your /etc/fonts/local.conf or ~/.fonts.conf: Can you explain what stanzas are? !-- Turns off hinting entirely -- match target=font edit name=hinting mode=assign boolfalse/bool /edit /match (All that said, Luxi Sans isn't a great-quality font. And it's non-free. You can do better than that! =) Yes, indeed. These fonts are _non_free. This of course goes against what Debian and free software stands for but sometimes, looks do count. I'm currently using Bitstream Vera Sans for my other fonts but I would really like to get this working just so that I know that I can fix it. Cheers, nate - -- Make sure your vote will count. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqOfb25cAeUrFyDIRAjVvAJ49dmqrgqCt7gz5wZaE820YdfYjVgCfbYlE rNwLO5MswawJq09KZG7OykQ= =u1S3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Font Woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 May 2004 07:39 pm, Bruce Park wrote: Nathaniel W. Turner wrote: Try putting the following stanza in either your /etc/fonts/local.conf or ~/.fonts.conf: Can you explain what stanzas are? A stanza is a group of lines, like in a poem. So I meant that you should put the following group of lines into your /etc/fonts/local.conf. I'll attach my entire /etc/fonts/local.conf so you can see it in context. !-- Turns off hinting entirely -- match target=font edit name=hinting mode=assign boolfalse/bool /edit /match Cheers, nate - -- Make sure your vote will count. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqVSz25cAeUrFyDIRAqa5AKDHMxL3h/2qt5TMJSwq2noC4fSPBwCgwOPt OoOXJv6yrGWhPDWJPftLgKw= =FtFR -END PGP SIGNATURE- /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/fonts.conf false
Re: Font Woes - Solved!!!
Nathaniel W. Turner wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 May 2004 07:39 pm, Bruce Park wrote: Nathaniel W. Turner wrote: Try putting the following stanza in either your /etc/fonts/local.conf or ~/.fonts.conf: Can you explain what stanzas are? A stanza is a group of lines, like in a poem. So I meant that you should put the following group of lines into your /etc/fonts/local.conf. I'll attach my entire /etc/fonts/local.conf so you can see it in context. !-- Turns off hinting entirely -- match target=font edit name=hinting mode=assign boolfalse/bool /edit /match Cheers, nate - -- Make sure your vote will count. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqVSz25cAeUrFyDIRAqa5AKDHMxL3h/2qt5TMJSwq2noC4fSPBwCgwOPt OoOXJv6yrGWhPDWJPftLgKw= =FtFR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Nathan, OMG! Thank you so much for that tip. Although the font is not as clear as it used to be, at least it's proportional (which is what I wanted). I've been waiting so long to solve this problem for sometime, I really don't know what else I can write here to express my gratitude. bp
