Re: GMail in KMail and secure IMAP

2009-10-15 Thread Diederik de Haas
Hi!

On 2009-10-14 Ismael Bejarano wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Sometimes I suffer from messages being "deleted" (they still appear in
> "All Mail" but are not tagged), it was more frequent when handling a
> large folder with lots of emails and synchronizing automatically each
> 5 minutes. Sometimes the connection was lost during synchronization
> and in subsequent attempts the emails were "deleted" instead of being
> marked as read (the connection lost can be due to my poor upload
> speed). Since switching to manual synchronization this doesn't occur
> anymore, or at least I'm not able to realize it. BTW I use
> disconnected IMAP.
I've got my settings still at automatically synchronizing but upped the 
interval a bit. I want the 
automatic sync since using KMail for GMail was triggered by my wish to get rid 
of the GMail Notifier 
in my browser (too invasive). 
And now KMail isn't synchronizing all the time anymore (combined with changes 
described below).

> I suggest to not download "All Mail" folder, all email are downloaded
> twice if you do that. Also folders with lots of email can be really
> painful to synchronize I've opted for splitting by years, ie
> debian,debian-2008,debian-2007, etc.
Not only have I now excluded "All Mail", but also Bin, Starred and all the 
folders you see which are 
labels on GMail. Synchronization seems to go a lot smoother/faster now :)
And I guess it's time I'd go over my mails and start using the archive feature 
instead of leaving 
everything in my inbox.

Before starting with KMail I didn't even know disconnected IMAP existed, but 
I'm reading up on it.
Does disconnected IMAP synchronize quicker then 'online' IMAP
> I think IMAP has a cache, and there's a context menu with an option to
> clear it, sorry I can't point it exactly I'm not at home right now.
> 
On the File menu there's an item "Refresh Local IMAP Cache", I've done that 
(twice) but that 
particular msg hasn't appeared (yet?).

> Regards,
> Ismael

Thanks for the reply, it was really helpful :)

Diederik


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Re: GMail in KMail and secure IMAP

2009-10-14 Thread Ismael Bejarano
Hi!

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Diederik de Haas  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A couple of days ago I configured KMail to get my GMail using IMAP according 
> to these instructions:
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799
> It then tried to retrieve all the msgs I have in GMail, but along the way it 
> apparently modified
> various msgs and tried to upload them, causing years old msgs to appear at 
> the top of my mail list.
> While I don't understand why it would do that (and I think it's wrong for 
> trying) I wanted to
> overlook it as a one-time issue.
> But every now-and-then I get a popup msg saying it failed to append sth to a 
> msg and gives me the
> option to continue or cancel. While neither option is clear to me what it 
> does, it make the popup go
> away. The popup occur with the same msg(s) every time, so it looks that it 
> keeps trying to do it.
>
> How can I fix this error/popup from keep appearing?
>
> Also, when a msg arrives, I see it both in my inbox and in the "All Mail" 
> folder and reading one,
> doesn't mark the other unread.
> Does someone has some tips and tricks how to properly deal with 'issues' like 
> this and reading GMail
> in KMail in general?
>

Sometimes I suffer from messages being "deleted" (they still appear in
"All Mail" but are not tagged), it was more frequent when handling a
large folder with lots of emails and synchronizing automatically each
5 minutes. Sometimes the connection was lost during synchronization
and in subsequent attempts the emails were "deleted" instead of being
marked as read (the connection lost can be due to my poor upload
speed). Since switching to manual synchronization this doesn't occur
anymore, or at least I'm not able to realize it. BTW I use
disconnected IMAP.

I suggest to not download "All Mail" folder, all email are downloaded
twice if you do that. Also folders with lots of email can be really
painful to synchronize I've opted for splitting by years, ie
debian,debian-2008,debian-2007, etc.

>
> I also have another mail account which I access through secure IMAP, setup 
> according to these
> instructions: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Secure_E-mail
> Usually it works when setup like that. Sometimes I get time-out errors. 
> Sometimes KMail (not me!)
> changes that IMAP setting to use port 143 instead of 993 (TLS still enabled 
> in either case).
> Sometimes the time-out errors disappear when set to port 143, but not always.
> And today I send an email, but it hasn't shown up in my Sent mail folder for 
> that account, but I can
> see it's there through webmail. Explicitly synchronizing the Sent mail folder 
> doesn't help either.
>

I think IMAP has a cache, and there's a context menu with an option to
clear it, sorry I can't point it exactly I'm not at home right now.

> Why does KMail change my settings without me telling so? How can/should I 
> configure KMail so it does
> it's work more reliable (with secure IMAP)?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>  Diederik
>
>

Regards,
Ismael


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GMail in KMail and secure IMAP

2009-10-11 Thread Diederik de Haas
Hello,

A couple of days ago I configured KMail to get my GMail using IMAP according to 
these instructions: 
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799
It then tried to retrieve all the msgs I have in GMail, but along the way it 
apparently modified 
various msgs and tried to upload them, causing years old msgs to appear at the 
top of my mail list.
While I don't understand why it would do that (and I think it's wrong for 
trying) I wanted to 
overlook it as a one-time issue.
But every now-and-then I get a popup msg saying it failed to append sth to a 
msg and gives me the 
option to continue or cancel. While neither option is clear to me what it does, 
it make the popup go 
away. The popup occur with the same msg(s) every time, so it looks that it 
keeps trying to do it.

How can I fix this error/popup from keep appearing?

Also, when a msg arrives, I see it both in my inbox and in the "All Mail" 
folder and reading one, 
doesn't mark the other unread. 
Does someone has some tips and tricks how to properly deal with 'issues' like 
this and reading GMail 
in KMail in general?


I also have another mail account which I access through secure IMAP, setup 
according to these 
instructions: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Secure_E-mail
Usually it works when setup like that. Sometimes I get time-out errors. 
Sometimes KMail (not me!) 
changes that IMAP setting to use port 143 instead of 993 (TLS still enabled in 
either case). 
Sometimes the time-out errors disappear when set to port 143, but not always.
And today I send an email, but it hasn't shown up in my Sent mail folder for 
that account, but I can 
see it's there through webmail. Explicitly synchronizing the Sent mail folder 
doesn't help either.

Why does KMail change my settings without me telling so? How can/should I 
configure KMail so it does 
it's work more reliable (with secure IMAP)?

Thanks in advance,
  Diederik


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