Re: k3b package [was Re: How Do I Burn CDs?]
On 03/03/03 at 23:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > Feel free to report any bug directly to me. Don't use the BTS. > > I just downloaded it, seems to work fine. Of course, I have all the > config still from the karolina version, so I didn't even see the wizard > again :-) The only thing of note is that it appears to be compiled with > debugging enabled, to make better bug reports, I know that isn't > generally the "ship" state. I uploaded the package to sid. With --disable-debug, which remove all these debugging informations. -- Jean-Michel Kelbert pgpqraV5pNVer.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 Mar 2003 04:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At least with k3b, there is a way to simply not have the wizard > change anything. I only used cdbakeoven long enough to figure out > that it does not have my killer feature*, so I'll just take your word > for it not having the same thing :-) cdbakeoven's wizard can be told not to change anything, but I think that this may be at the cost of some of it's features, such as some of it's konqueror integration. Paul Cupis. - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZLMhIzuKV+SHX/kRAjWxAJ0T3FwaN1Z5WAyPY/O5smZZfc8B7QCdGnA4 yIZTmbxmSLh0dZ5USGaFzrw= =EUCX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:13:09AM +, Paul Cupis wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 03 Mar 2003 23:34, David Bishop wrote: > > On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote: > [re: k3b] > > > I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first > > > package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It > > > made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a > > > bad idea. k3b also > > > > Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd > > burning on linux, bar none. Relying upon distributions to make this > > easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the > > app authors end up working around this. k3b is *not* the only cd > > burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing. > > It does, and it can be a right pain. > > Debian systems do have infrastructure for CD-Burning facilities to have > the correct permissions already setup (via the cdrom group), so I am > going to try and get cdbakeoven upstream to either allow the setuptool > to be seeded with answers or bypassed, at least for Debian systems. At least with k3b, there is a way to simply not have the wizard change anything. I only used cdbakeoven long enough to figure out that it does not have my killer feature*, so I'll just take your word for it not having the same thing :-) D.A.Bishop *for those who are interested, (all 2 of you), my killer feature is being able to drag a directory into the 'project', find that it is 900+ megs, and then selectively delete subdirs and individual files until it fits. k3b allows this, gcombust and cdbakeoven don't, dunno about xcdroast. There, now you know more than you ever wanted to about my cd burning habits...
Re: k3b package [was Re: How Do I Burn CDs?]
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 07:11:51PM -0500, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote: > On 03/03/03 at 18:57 David Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare > > time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging. Good > > luck > > in whatever your endevours take you to next :-) > > I don't know if I will package it, or not. As a said previsously, I had > to see what should be the best for packaging it ! > Should I modify the source, or not ? It it's that big a deal to you, yes! If every distribution starts modifying it, because they *do* have an easy to use way to setup permissions, then pretty soon the wizard code will just be dropped upstream. I can garuntee the authors of k3b don't like having to maintain that anymore than you like it being there :-) > You will find a package of k3b on http://people.debian.org/~kelbert/ > It don't have modify any line of the upstream code in this package. > > Feel free to report any bug directly to me. Don't use the BTS. I just downloaded it, seems to work fine. Of course, I have all the config still from the karolina version, so I didn't even see the wizard again :-) The only thing of note is that it appears to be compiled with some sort of debugging turned on (?). At least, it is extremely verbose when started from the command-line. And while I *like* my apps with debugging enabled, to make better bug reports, I know that isn't generally the "ship" state. I must take this chance to say thank you, I was starting to really hate gcombust... Thanks, David
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 Mar 2003 23:34, David Bishop wrote: > On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote: [re: k3b] > > I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first > > package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It > > made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a > > bad idea. k3b also > > Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd > burning on linux, bar none. Relying upon distributions to make this > easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the > app authors end up working around this. k3b is *not* the only cd > burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing. It does, and it can be a right pain. Debian systems do have infrastructure for CD-Burning facilities to have the correct permissions already setup (via the cdrom group), so I am going to try and get cdbakeoven upstream to either allow the setuptool to be seeded with answers or bypassed, at least for Debian systems. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Y++wIzuKV+SHX/kRAo+dAJoCuYD2jPnYEh0vrlZ/qxCPA5Q4BQCeKmPh SYExsLGBvSzv8CnfNtawWk0= =Dv7o -END PGP SIGNATURE-
k3b package [was Re: How Do I Burn CDs?]
On 03/03/03 at 18:57 David Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > authors end up working around this. k3b is *not* the only cd burning prog to > do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing. I know. So I don't know what a good package should made. I have to re-think on that I think ! > You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare > time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging. Good luck > in whatever your endevours take you to next :-) I don't know if I will package it, or not. As a said previsously, I had to see what should be the best for packaging it ! Should I modify the source, or not ? You will find a package of k3b on http://people.debian.org/~kelbert/ It don't have modify any line of the upstream code in this package. Feel free to report any bug directly to me. Don't use the BTS. Thanks. -- Jean-Michel Kelbert pgpuYPm3SFoZw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote: > Le 03/03/03 à 13:14 Andreas Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait : > > k3b rules > > > > Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so. > > I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first package. > But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It made change on > devices and program permission. I think this is a bad idea. k3b also Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd burning on linux, bar none. Relying upon distributions to make this easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the app authors end up working around this. k3b is *not* the only cd burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing. > provide a configuration file that is note in /etc/. I askded the > upstream where I could change this. They doesn't want to answer me ! I > find where this could be changed, but when you see what upstream say > about the suse packager, this doesn't motivate me to package it ! I know nothing about this, thus can't comment. > So I think that I will close my ITP and let someone else package it. You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging. Good luck in whatever your endevours take you to next :-) *other email sent 5 minutes ago to the contrary, as I simply said what Chris could do to stop whing, not demanded that he do it -- "Yousa steala precious from meesa!" - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
Le 03/03/03 à 13:14 Andreas Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait : > k3b rules > > Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so. I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a bad idea. k3b also provide a configuration file that is note in /etc/. I askded the upstream where I could change this. They doesn't want to answer me ! I find where this could be changed, but when you see what upstream say about the suse packager, this doesn't motivate me to package it ! So I think that I will close my ITP and let someone else package it. -- Jean-Michel Kelbert pgpuobNE0VgEk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
1. I didn't know about: /etc/default/cdrecord, 2. I meant to run mkisofs for you, then to remove the image, not just to get dev 3. I like to dynamically get dev as it might change. cheers, Fred Ollinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) CCN sysadmin On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Paul Cupis wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 03 Mar 2003 18:34, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > > Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard. > > > > Make a cdimage from a folder: > > > > mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder > > > > Get your dev numbers: > > > > cdrecord -scanbus > > > > For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output: > > > > scsibus0: > > 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10 ' 'H.KF' Removable > > CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * > > 0,2,0 2) * > > 0,3,0 3) * > > 0,4,0 4) * > > 0,5,0 5) * > > 0,6,0 6) * > > 0,7,0 7) > > > > Now do the burn: > > > > cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso > > > > You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it > > all in one easy go. > > A wrapper script? Why not just set the default device to use in > /etc/default/cdrecord, per the maintaners suggestion? > > Paul Cupis > - -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+Y7dZIzuKV+SHX/kRAtwCAJ9o/YLP/k56QNpzJ0uwd71alxqpxQCeIqUh > +RIL6S7qrVkX0iC3mQTp8JA= > =t+O9 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: How Do I Burn CDs? AND: Context menu shell scripts
Hello! Thomas Ritter wrote (Mon 2003-Mar-03 21:19:06 +0100): > #!/bin/bash > mkisofs -r -J $* | sudo cdrecord -v -overburn \ > -eject -isosize -data - I was curious about the "-isosize" option and had a look at cdrecord's man page. There it says: -isosize [..] Do not use this option if cdrecord reads the track data from stdin. [..] Have you ever run into a situation where you actually needed this option to be set? Cheers, Marcus -- Marcus C. Gottwald · http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~gottwald/
Re: How Do I Burn CDs? AND: Context menu shell scripts
Am Montag, 3. März 2003 19:34 schrieb Fred K Ollinger: > cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso ... Just a note: I made the following bash script and bound it in Konqueror to the MIME type of "directory", with "execute in an xterm" or however this option says in english. Now I just have to right-click a directory and select "Burn directory on-the-fly" from the context menu and the burning process starts, as I don't care about CD names and so on. #-- #!/bin/bash mkisofs -r -J $* | sudo cdrecord -v -overburn \ -eject -isosize -data - echo Please press ENTER. read #-- It's simple and useful. You just have to configure your device in /etc/cdrecord/cdrecord, so all defaults are okay. To all: I am sure many people made such easy scripts for various uses and bound them to mime types in konqueror (think about "wget this recursively"). How about collecting these and making a package from all this, "konqueror-helpers" or so... I am missing a lot of useful commandline tools from KDE and just starting them in an xterm should be a good idea. This could even get a bigger project, with a kcontrol module to choose from many utilities. To the .deb-specialists and KDE package maintainers: Debian has a MIME registry with filetype-program and filetype-action associations (like "view" or "edit"). Is there any reason not to write a script "update-konqueror-actions", making .desktop-files for all those mime types? It just would have to store whichh files are autogenerated to be able to remove them when the package is removed. Or does apt have a directory for scripts executed after every install/update/remove action? This would be even better, then the .desktop-files would be always up-to-date. There are even things like "needsterminal" in /etc/mailcap... If anyone except me finds this useful, I will write it, that shouldn't be so much work in python or perl ;) kappfinder does this the other way round, it maintains a small set of applications with hand-written .desktop files. With debian and apt and its mime registry system (which should be far more used my package maintainers) this should be handled smarter. PS: There is no MIME type for "ISO-Image"? And CUE-Sheets? -- Thomas Ritter
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
I second that, as far as graphical apps go, k3b is my personal favorite. And, yes, I know it's not available right now... Of course, when you want quick down-n-dirty burning, nothing comes close to plain ole mkisofs and cdrecord. Once I took the time to learn the commands, I found myself using konsole more and more when I needed to burn. Please don't go, Bob. Dave --- Andreas Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Tilley wrote: > > > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been > contemplating moving > > back > > to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD > burning. I have no cd > > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having > tried all available > > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I > resume kneeling at the altar > > of Bill? > > k3b rules > > Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So > wait a week or so. > > Greetings, > -- > Andreas Bauer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 Mar 2003 18:34, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard. > > Make a cdimage from a folder: > > mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder > > Get your dev numbers: > > cdrecord -scanbus > > For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output: > > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10 ' 'H.KF' Removable > CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * > 0,2,0 2) * > 0,3,0 3) * > 0,4,0 4) * > 0,5,0 5) * > 0,6,0 6) * > 0,7,0 7) > > Now do the burn: > > cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso > > You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it > all in one easy go. A wrapper script? Why not just set the default device to use in /etc/default/cdrecord, per the maintaners suggestion? Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Y7dZIzuKV+SHX/kRAtwCAJ9o/YLP/k56QNpzJ0uwd71alxqpxQCeIqUh +RIL6S7qrVkX0iC3mQTp8JA= =t+O9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
Sure, but he was looking for a program that wouldn't make him run back to Windows. I think the nice gui of cdbakeoven would be more of what he's looking for. Nothing against calling cdrecord directly, I just don't think that's what he was looking for. Todd On March 3, 2003 01:34 pm, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > > cdbakeoven is quite friendly > > > > Todd > > > > On March 3, 2003 12:17 pm, Robert Tilley wrote: > > > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving > > > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no > > > cd burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all > > > available (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > > > > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the > > > altar of Bill? > > Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard. > > Make a cdimage from a folder: > > mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder > > Get your dev numbers: > > cdrecord -scanbus > > For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output: > > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10 ' 'H.KF' Removable CD-ROM > 0,1,0 1) * > 0,2,0 2) * > 0,3,0 3) * > 0,4,0 4) * > 0,5,0 5) * > 0,6,0 6) * > 0,7,0 7) > > Now do the burn: > > cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso > > You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it all in > one easy go. > > Fred
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
> cdbakeoven is quite friendly > > Todd > > On March 3, 2003 12:17 pm, Robert Tilley wrote: > > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving > > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no cd > > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available > > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar > > of Bill? Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard. Make a cdimage from a folder: mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder Get your dev numbers: cdrecord -scanbus For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output: scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10 ' 'H.KF' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) Now do the burn: cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it all in one easy go. Fred
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
måndagen den 3 mars 2003 18.17 skrev Robert Tilley: > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no cd > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar > of Bill? I had the same problem, trying all programs in debian. That was until I found k3b, and found that it does the job good. Unfortunately, the common answer for a KDE program applies - it is not in debian yet. Probably on the way. Karolina
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 01:17, Robert Tilley wrote: > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no cd > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > k3b,cdbakeoven will be nice. However, might need some tricky configurations if u want to burn Audio CD. remember put ur drive name in /usr/share/cdrdao/drivers. Tim > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar > of Bill? > -- > Comments are most appreciated, > > Bob public_key.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
cdbakeoven is quite friendly Todd On March 3, 2003 12:17 pm, Robert Tilley wrote: > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no cd > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar > of Bill? > -- > Comments are most appreciated, > > Bob
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
Robert Tilley wrote: > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving > back > to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no cd > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar > of Bill? k3b rules Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so. Greetings, -- Andreas Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
Bob, Before you go, try gcombust ... this has been the most consistent stable, accurate and lean and mean burner for Linux I have found. I have tried them all and always got back to gcombust. Michael On Monday 03 March 2003 09:17 am, Robert Tilley wrote: > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating > moving back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I > have no cd burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried > all available (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the > altar of Bill? > -- > Comments are most appreciated, > > Bob -- Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
How Do I Burn CDs?
As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning. I have no cd burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable). Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar of Bill? -- Comments are most appreciated, Bob
