Re: How to delete mail off the POP server after retrieval?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 28. Januar 2003 17:30 schrieb Matt Sheffield: > It's a little bit embarrassing that KMail doesn't have this feature. > But the bug was filed on 31 Oct. of last year so perhaps it's not in > high demand? AAR, even old Netscape 2.x had this feature way back in > 1995, to say nothing of the other major clients. In 1995, telnet was used, too. I think that it would be totally wrong to implement this. IMAP is the way to go for this. Just because Netscape did this (IIRC the only client program doing so) does not mean in any way that it was smart. It is highly inefficient. Additionally, most POP3 server use a mbox file for storing mail. Every time, you check/get mail and do not delete it there makes it more inefficient and slower to look for new mail. Well, the POP3-Servers that use Maildir can do this a bit smarter but all such servers (AFAIK) that use Maildir also offer IMAP (and both with SSL). Well, there are things like uw-imapd (mbox based) but noone really wants to use that (assumption: except those that do not know how to get Maildir working). And wow, Netscape <6 could not even do POP3S. This means that every time you deleted a mail, it was sending you username and password as clear text through the net (collecting the delete requests would be no reliable way, I guess). This feature would also need a track of the server that the locally saved mail was from. IIRC, Netscape only offered that mail for the Inbox of the Server but KMail does not work this way, especially with filters applied. Again: you really want to think this over. This is totally bad habit and should be avoided. If the KMail developers ever implement this, they did not think it over enough. HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+NvYHzvr6q9zCwcERAtHpAJoCUaPwO/fSN8A6NWFbwv5uqESU6gCfYJl5 7CQN0oqk8Hs+QyJ8Y++RFRQ= =/5bl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How to delete mail off the POP server after retrieval?
Yes David, that is what I'm saying. I was afraid that the all-or-nothing approach is what KMail is following and a quick trip to bugs.kde.org showed me that someone has filed a wishlist item for it. If not having "pseudo-IMAP" (nice neologism) is bothering anyone else, I suggest you go to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49989 and vote for it to be fixed. It's a little bit embarrassing that KMail doesn't have this feature. But the bug was filed on 31 Oct. of last year so perhaps it's not in high demand? AAR, even old Netscape 2.x had this feature way back in 1995, to say nothing of the other major clients. Obviously it's no showstopper but still :) --- David Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:13 am, Geert-Jan Hut wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 January 2003 09:51, Matt Sheffield wrote: > > > KMail is a very nice program, however, I have not figured out > if there is > > > a way to delete messages off my POP account once I have deleted > them > > > locally. It seems every email program has this feature, does > KMail? > > > > > > Of course, I may have not poked around sufficiently... > > > > In the pop account settings (Settings->Configure KMail->Network). > Select > > the pop account you use and you get a screen where you can > set/reset this > > option. > > > > You really should set this, otherwise your account will > overflow... For > > testing purposes (to not lose mail) or in special cases you can > reset it. > > I *think* his question is slightly different. Some email clients > support > making pop3 into a pseudo-imap by not deleting emails off the pop > server at > first (i.e., the config option you pointed him to), until you > delete the > email locally (i.e., after filtering, reading, etc.). So, in case > that was > the question, no, KMail does not support that. If you want to have > multiple > client access your account, use imap :-) > > -- > "Yousa steala precious from meesa!" - Jar-Jaromir > > D.A.Bishop > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: How to delete mail off the POP server after retrieval?
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:13 am, Geert-Jan Hut wrote: > On Tuesday 28 January 2003 09:51, Matt Sheffield wrote: > > KMail is a very nice program, however, I have not figured out if there is > > a way to delete messages off my POP account once I have deleted them > > locally. It seems every email program has this feature, does KMail? > > > > Of course, I may have not poked around sufficiently... > > In the pop account settings (Settings->Configure KMail->Network). Select > the pop account you use and you get a screen where you can set/reset this > option. > > You really should set this, otherwise your account will overflow... For > testing purposes (to not lose mail) or in special cases you can reset it. I *think* his question is slightly different. Some email clients support making pop3 into a pseudo-imap by not deleting emails off the pop server at first (i.e., the config option you pointed him to), until you delete the email locally (i.e., after filtering, reading, etc.). So, in case that was the question, no, KMail does not support that. If you want to have multiple client access your account, use imap :-) -- "Yousa steala precious from meesa!" - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: How to delete mail off the POP server after retrieval?
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 09:51, Matt Sheffield wrote: > KMail is a very nice program, however, I have not figured out if there is a > way to delete messages off my POP account once I have deleted them locally. > It seems every email program has this feature, does KMail? > > Of course, I may have not poked around sufficiently... In the pop account settings (Settings->Configure KMail->Network). Select the pop account you use and you get a screen where you can set/reset this option. You really should set this, otherwise your account will overflow... For testing purposes (to not lose mail) or in special cases you can reset it. Good luck, Geert-Jan.
How to delete mail off the POP server after retrieval?
KMail is a very nice program, however, I have not figured out if there is a way to delete messages off my POP account once I have deleted them locally. It seems every email program has this feature, does KMail? Of course, I may have not poked around sufficiently...
