Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-04-11 Thread Bruce
Tried this; both were up to date. Reinstalled. Still nothing in Kcontrol
centre. Strange.

B.

> Try `apt-get -t unstable install kdesktop kdm` and make sure to
explicitly select "kde" as session upon logging in.
>
>
> Auke
>
> On Saturday 27 March 2004 04:12, you wrote:
>> >> I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has almost
nothing in the the Control Center.
>> >
>> > This was solved for me by removing and then re-installing
>> kdebase-data:
>> >
>> >apt-get remove kdebase-data
>> >apt-get install -t unstable kdebase-data
>>
>> Hmmm; tried this. Of course, kdebase-data took with it a number of
other things. Uninstalling and replacing kdebase-data involved the
following to
>> replace what was taken away:
>>
>> apt-get install -t unstable kde kde-amusements kde-core kdebase
kdebase-data kdegames kdenetwork kicker lisa
>>
>> Which is fine, even if it doesn't work (especially as I am equally
happy running Gnome ;))
>>
>> However, doing the above did nothing to fix the lack of control center
modules. Still nothing there. H...
>>
>> B.
>>
>> B.
>






Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-26 Thread Bruce
>> I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has
>> almost nothing in the the Control Center.
>
> This was solved for me by removing and then re-installing kdebase-data:
>
>apt-get remove kdebase-data
>apt-get install -t unstable kdebase-data


Hmmm; tried this. Of course, kdebase-data took with it a number of other
things. Uninstalling and replacing kdebase-data involved the following to
replace what was taken away:

apt-get install -t unstable kde kde-amusements kde-core kdebase
kdebase-data kdegames kdenetwork kicker lisa

Which is fine, even if it doesn't work (especially as I am equally happy
running Gnome ;))

However, doing the above did nothing to fix the lack of control center
modules. Still nothing there. H...

B.

B.




Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-23 Thread Ralph Alvy
Bruce wrote:

>> I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has
>> almost nothing in the the Control Center.
> 
> Same thing here after an apt-get upgrade to sid from a new install of
> Mepis linux. Seems like the control centre can't find the modules; the few
> that show up (K3bSetup, Digital Camera) seem to crash when I try to access
> them.
> 
> Could this be a problem that occurs when moving from a Debian based system
> (Knoppix, Mepis, Libranet etc.) to a straight Sid system? Anyone have this
> problem in a straight upgrade from sid?
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
This was solved for me by removing and then re-installing kdebase-data:

apt-get remove kdebase-data
apt-get install -t unstable kdebase-data




Fwd: Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-22 Thread John van Spaandonk
Jeff, you are using a reply-to: field.
I am sending my reply to you to the list now.

J.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone
Date: Monday 22 March 2004 18:29
From: John van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Monday 22 March 2004 15:00, Jeff Elkins wrote:
> On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:32 pm, jedd wrote:
> >On Mon March 22 2004 01:15 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote:
> > ] I've done both. I dist-upgraded a Mepis system to 3.2 and it was hosed.
> > I ] wiped the box, installed Woody/KDE, dist-upgraded to Sid and it's
> > working w/o ] any major problems.
> >
> > I still don't get why people think a pretty installer warrants such
> > on-going pain.  It's the old half-hour install .v. lifetime of
> > maintenance argument all over again, I know.  Nonetheless, I don't get
> > it.
>
> In my case it was time pressure. I had a Xmas laptop for a granddaughter,
> Windows 98 onboard, and only hours to get it ready and packed. Mepis saved
> my butt and prevented child abuse -- exposing a young kid to Windows :)
>
> Jeff

And I my (other than the described) case I had a Knoppix cd handy.
It took me ages to remove the Knoppix stuff from all nooks and crannies of
the system.
I definitely recommend using the (100MB beta 3) testing installer to start
from testing, which should be very stable by now.
I guess this will become even easier when full (with working installer)
testing cd images become available over the next months.

Then see what packages need to be newer and use sid for only those.
That's what I'm going to do with this box.

Good luck,

John

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Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-22 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:32 pm, jedd wrote:
>On Mon March 22 2004 01:15 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote:
> ] I've done both. I dist-upgraded a Mepis system to 3.2 and it was hosed. I
> ] wiped the box, installed Woody/KDE, dist-upgraded to Sid and it's working
> w/o ] any major problems.
>
> I still don't get why people think a pretty installer warrants such
> on-going pain.  It's the old half-hour install .v. lifetime of maintenance
> argument all over again, I know.  Nonetheless, I don't get it.

In my case it was time pressure. I had a Xmas laptop for a granddaughter, 
Windows 98 onboard, and only hours to get it ready and packed. Mepis saved my 
butt and prevented child abuse -- exposing a young kid to Windows :)

Jeff




Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-21 Thread jedd
On Mon March 22 2004 01:15 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote:
 ] I've done both. I dist-upgraded a Mepis system to 3.2 and it was hosed. I 
 ] wiped the box, installed Woody/KDE, dist-upgraded to Sid and it's working 
w/o 
 ] any major problems.

 I still don't get why people think a pretty installer warrants such
 on-going pain.  It's the old half-hour install .v. lifetime of maintenance
 argument all over again, I know.  Nonetheless, I don't get it.

 I also don't get how distributions that aren't Debian can claim to be
 100% compatible with Debian, given the surfeit of anecdotal evidence
 to the contrary.

 Jedd.




Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-21 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Sunday 21 March 2004 05:24 pm, John van Spaandonk wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I installed Debian by upgrading Debian from stable through testing to
>unstable (sid) (since at the time the testing installer did not work)
>and I have no such problems.
>
>Best
>
>John
>
>On Sunday 21 March 2004 19:48, Bruce wrote:
>> > I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has
>> > almost nothing in the the Control Center.
>>
>> Same thing here after an apt-get upgrade to sid from a new install of
>> Mepis linux. Seems like the control centre can't find the modules; the few
>> that show up (K3bSetup, Digital Camera) seem to crash when I try to access
>> them.
>>
>> Could this be a problem that occurs when moving from a Debian based system
>> (Knoppix, Mepis, Libranet etc.) to a straight Sid system? Anyone have this
>> problem in a straight upgrade from sid?
>>
>> Bruce

I've done both. I dist-upgraded a Mepis system to 3.2 and it was hosed. I 
wiped the box, installed Woody/KDE, dist-upgraded to Sid and it's working w/o 
any major problems.

Jeff




Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-21 Thread John van Spaandonk
Hi,

I installed Debian by upgrading Debian from stable through testing to 
unstable (sid) (since at the time the testing installer did not work)
and I have no such problems.

Best

John

On Sunday 21 March 2004 19:48, Bruce wrote:
> > I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has
> > almost nothing in the the Control Center.
>
> Same thing here after an apt-get upgrade to sid from a new install of
> Mepis linux. Seems like the control centre can't find the modules; the few
> that show up (K3bSetup, Digital Camera) seem to crash when I try to access
> them.
>
> Could this be a problem that occurs when moving from a Debian based system
> (Knoppix, Mepis, Libranet etc.) to a straight Sid system? Anyone have this
> problem in a straight upgrade from sid?
>
> Bruce




Re: KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-21 Thread Bruce
> I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has
> almost nothing in the the Control Center.

Same thing here after an apt-get upgrade to sid from a new install of
Mepis linux. Seems like the control centre can't find the modules; the few
that show up (K3bSetup, Digital Camera) seem to crash when I try to access
them.

Could this be a problem that occurs when moving from a Debian based system
(Knoppix, Mepis, Libranet etc.) to a straight Sid system? Anyone have this
problem in a straight upgrade from sid?

Bruce




KDE 3.2: Control Center almost gone

2004-03-07 Thread Ralph Alvy
I notice that, on my Debian/Libranet system, KDE unstable has almost nothing
in the the Control Center.