Re: KDE 4.2 impressions

2009-02-04 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Grammostola Rosea wrote:

> I love it in general. Especially dolphin with the konsole option. The
> 'working together' of the konsole (f4) and dolphin could be improved
> imho. When you go back to another folder in dolphin the konsole doesn't
> follow correctly for instance.
> 

Works for me.

> I'm negative about the freedom KDE4 brings us... Be Free is not always
> Free imho. I can't choose another search engine in the new kmenu and
> that a big bug! Shouldn't a Debian be free to use the search engine he
> wants? And shouldn't it be possible in KDE to tweak this option?
> 
Are you talking about kmenu's Search ?
I'm not sure if that's tied tightly to google or not. In konqueror, I can 
change the search engine to something else, and if kmenu takes the settings 
from there, it might be able to use the new Search Engine. But for that, I'd 
have to log out from my Desktop Session. Not now.

I'm running KDE 4.2 from Debian Experimental and to me KDE 4.x is as free as 
it ever was.

PS: I still wonder who designed the newsgroup subscription interface in 
Evolution.

Ritesh
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Re: KDE 4.2 impressions

2009-02-04 Thread Grammostola Rosea

Christoph Burgmer wrote:
While KDE 4.2 is out for some days now, we still lack a feedback (or 
more precise an impressions) thread. I'd like to list some points, to

a) encourage other people to switch/not to switch
b) ask for help
c) rant/share enjoyment


1) KDE 4.2 brings in new eyecandy, like a normal "major" release does. 
IMHO mostly positive.
2) More options available in many corners, some speak of feature 
parity with KDE 3.5, plasmoids on screensaver, message grouping in kmail
3) Some under the hood changes (akonadi...), which show that things 
get done, no major impact until now? though.
4) regressions like MSN settings lost, plasma crashes playing with new 
options
5) some KDE 4.0 and 4.1 bugs fixed, some bugs I was hoping somebody 
else would report still not fixed
6) new plasmoids, /me missing a TODO and _nice_ weather plugin, rssnow 
is cute but IMHO not functional
7) open/save dialogue still unusable, doesn't save settings and needs 
10sec to load up (I guess due to nepomuk, running here on a Thinkpad 
R50e).



Overall I'm rather disappointed, as the additional features don't make 
my average work easier, and the anoying bugs/performance issues 
persist. KDE 4.2 is bettern than 4.1 no doubt about that, but it is 
hyped as _the_ KDE4 release. Others might have a different opinion. 
Anyway, on the way to KDE 4.3 nepomuk hopefully gets faster.



On a site note, as I pointed out in 5) there are bugs that I can't be 
bothered to report, though KDE devels keep pushing people to file 
bugs. I just get tired of waiting 2 years to have IMHO reasonable bugs 
fixed (not wishlist). Are there any receipts for getting a better 
experience? I actually got the kopete devels to quickly fix a Unicode 
bug for me, bad side of the story is I had to logon to IRC first.



Christoph


I love it in general. Especially dolphin with the konsole option. The 
'working together' of the konsole (f4) and dolphin could be improved 
imho. When you go back to another folder in dolphin the konsole doesn't 
follow correctly for instance.


I'm negative about the freedom KDE4 brings us... Be Free is not always 
Free imho. I can't choose another search engine in the new kmenu and 
that a big bug! Shouldn't a Debian be free to use the search engine he 
wants? And shouldn't it be possible in KDE to tweak this option?


Kind regards,

\R


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KDE 4.2 impressions

2009-02-04 Thread Christoph Burgmer
While KDE 4.2 is out for some days now, we still lack a feedback (or more 
precise an impressions) thread. I'd like to list some points, to
a) encourage other people to switch/not to switch
b) ask for help
c) rant/share enjoyment

1) KDE 4.2 brings in new eyecandy, like a normal "major" release does. IMHO 
mostly positive.
2) More options available in many corners, some speak of feature parity with 
KDE 3.5, plasmoids on screensaver, message grouping in kmail
3) Some under the hood changes (akonadi...), which show that things get done, 
no major impact until now? though.
4) regressions like MSN settings lost, plasma crashes playing with new options
5) some KDE 4.0 and 4.1 bugs fixed, some bugs I was hoping somebody else would 
report still not fixed
6) new plasmoids, /me missing a TODO and _nice_ weather plugin, rssnow is cute 
but IMHO not functional
7) open/save dialogue still unusable, doesn't save settings and needs 10sec to 
load up (I guess due to nepomuk, running here on a Thinkpad R50e).

Overall I'm rather disappointed, as the additional features don't make my 
average work easier, and the anoying bugs/performance issues persist. KDE 4.2 
is bettern than 4.1 no doubt about that, but it is hyped as _the_ KDE4 
release. Others might have a different opinion. Anyway, on the way to KDE 4.3 
nepomuk hopefully gets faster.

On a site note, as I pointed out in 5) there are bugs that I can't be bothered 
to report, though KDE devels keep pushing people to file bugs. I just get tired 
of waiting 2 years to have IMHO reasonable bugs fixed (not wishlist). Are there 
any receipts for getting a better experience? I actually got the kopete devels 
to quickly fix a Unicode bug for me, bad side of the story is I had to logon to 
IRC first.

Christoph