Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-12 Thread csj
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:17:25 -0800
G. L. `Griz' Inabnit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   From my experience, using stable, unstable, frozen/testing is a 
 bad
 idea. Use the release name. It's safer. This way, if/when frozen goes stable,
 you won't find yourself running a fully beta release, unexpectedly.

How is this? Unless Debian policy changes, unstable will always remain
unstable, and testing will always remain testing. You're worse off if
you're tracking woody and woody becomes stable. Then you'll find
that quite a few packages have gone AWOL because they or their
dependencies are in a broken or semi-broken state, which testing, as its
name implies, has a higher tolerance for. If you want proof, examine the
posts in debian-user from the time when potato became stable (sorry, the
year and month escapes me). There wasn't a testing distribution then,
but the posts clearly show the effect of a potato that suddenly had to
be as bug-free as administratively possible.




KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread crochat
Hello !! 

I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know, 
that's unstable...) : 

My sources.list file : 

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free 
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-
free 
deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib non-free


* 
When I want to install kde : 
* 

aula-linux:~# apt-get install kde 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 
or been moved out of Incoming. 

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that 
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against 
that package should be filed. 
The following information may help to resolve the situation: 

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
  kde: Depends: kpackage but it is not going to be installed 
E: Sorry, broken packages 

**
So, I tape the following : 
**

aula-linux:~# apt-get install kpackage 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 
or been moved out of Incoming. 

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that 
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against 
that package should be filed. 
The following information may help to resolve the situation: 

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
  kpackage: Depends: librpm0 (= 4.0.2-18) but it is not installable 
E: Sorry, broken packages 

 
OK, so now :
 

aula-linux:~# apt-get install librpm0 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Package librpm0 has no available version, but exists in the database. 
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list 
However the following packages replace it: 
  librpm4 
E: Package librpm0 has no installation candidate 

***
Just a little new command : 
***

aula-linux:~# apt-get install librpm4 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Sorry, librpm4 is already the newest version. 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5  not upgraded. 


Well !! This package works !! But the rest still don't works !! The problem 
isn't resolved...
if I tape the command apt-get install kpackage, the same error message is 
displayed...
If anyone has an idee, thanks a lot !! 


 Cédric Rochat

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1341 L'Orient (CH)
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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know,
 that's unstable...) :

 My sources.list file :

 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
  1)
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-
 free
 deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib non-free
  2)

1) and 2) are the same but you are mixing two mirrors. What for? Use only
one and then you should be offered a more consistent package choice. If
you are using 1) and 2) simultaneously than you can end up in strange
situations where you install stuff from 2) that depends on stuff that is
overwritten by 1) etc.

I suggest you delete line 1)

For the rest - go and check packages.debian.org and search for the missing
packages there. Sometimes, if you are tracking woody/sid you need to do
that, especially if you are getting your stuff from mirrors.
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux  Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11





Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
  deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib 
  non-free

 1) and 2) are the same but you are mixing two mirrors. What for? Use only
 one and then you should be offered a more consistent package choice. If
 you are using 1) and 2) simultaneously than you can end up in strange
 situations where you install stuff from 2) that depends on stuff that is
 overwritten by 1) etc.

How exactly do you expect that to happen?  apt supports multiple sources
for the same package perfectly well - by default it will simply go with
the highest version avaliable.  If you point at two repositories one of
which is not a Debian mirror you might get into trouble but otherwise
nothing bad will happen (except for a bit of wasted bandwidth
downloading two copies of the Packages files).

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Mark Brown wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
 wrote:
  On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
   deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib 
   non-free

  1) and 2) are the same but you are mixing two mirrors. What for? Use only
  one and then you should be offered a more consistent package choice. If
  you are using 1) and 2) simultaneously than you can end up in strange
  situations where you install stuff from 2) that depends on stuff that is
  overwritten by 1) etc.

 How exactly do you expect that to happen?  apt supports multiple sources
 for the same package perfectly well - by default it will simply go with
 the highest version avaliable.  If you point at two repositories one of
 which is not a Debian mirror you might get into trouble but otherwise
 nothing bad will happen (except for a bit of wasted bandwidth
 downloading two copies of the Packages files).

Lets suppose the following (a situation that happens frequently here, I'm
sitting in Switzerland btw. just like the original poster).

Installed:
--
Package: A
Version: 0.1
Package: B
Version: 0.1
Package: C
Version: 0.1

mirror: A_out_of_sync
-
Package: A
Version: 0.1
Depends: B ( = 0.1)
Package: B
Version: 0.1
Package: C
Version: 0.1
Depends: B ( = 0.1)

mirror: B_more_in_sync
--
Package: A
(has been replaced by Aplus or is not available any more)
Depends: B ( = 0.2)
Package: B
Version: 0.2
Package: C
Version: 0.2
Depends: B ( = 0.2)

If you list available packages you'll see all the new versions. And if
you update C you'll get a problem, since A is hanging in the air.
Situations like this do occur.
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux  Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11





Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Friday 11 January 2002 12:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello !!

 I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I
 know, that's unstable...) :

 My sources.list file :

 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
 non- free
 deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib
 non-free

From my experience, using stable, unstable, frozen/testing is a 
bad
idea. Use the release name. It's safer. This way, if/when frozen goes stable,
you won't find yourself running a fully beta release, unexpectedly.

There's conversation later on in the list about multiple mirrors. I 
won't
comment on the validity of it, but using multiple mirrors bit me in the arse
months and months ago.

First recommendation is to edit the sources.list and run an apt-get 
update
to bring your package list up to current. Then try something like this:

Dir=~ pts/4$ apt-cache search kde | grep kde 
fluxbox-kde - Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager for KDE
junior-kde - Debian Jr. for KDE
kde - The K Desktop Environment
licq-plugin-kde - Graphical front-end plugin for LICQ using Qt2+KDE
wordtrans-kde - Multi Language Word Translator for Linux

As you see here, kde DOES exist (on my box). But you could be running 
into
some conflicts with the multi-mirror stuff. (shrug)
Once your available packages list is current/correct, you 'should' be 
able
to run the 'apt-get install kde' w/o complaint.

Good Coding

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Mark Brown wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:26:43PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
 wrote:

  mirror: B_more_in_sync
  --
  Package: A
  (has been replaced by Aplus or is not available any more)
  Depends: B ( = 0.2)

 So package A which does not exist depends on B=0.2?  Huh?

Scratch that Depends line. Sorry.
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux  Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11





Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread David Bishop
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On Friday 11 January 2002 01:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello !!

 I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I
 know, that's unstable...) :

snip

 Well !! This package works !! But the rest still don't works !! The problem
 isn't resolved...
 if I tape the command apt-get install kpackage, the same error message is
 displayed...
 If anyone has an idee, thanks a lot !!

Well, I won't comment on your sources.list, because everyone else already has 
:-)  I'll just mention that this particular dependency problem has been noted 
before and a new package upload with fixed depends: is planned very soon.  
Hope that helps

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:58:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello !! 
 
 I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know, 
 that's unstable...) : 
-snip- 
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
   kde: Depends: kpackage but it is not going to be installed 
 E: Sorry, broken packages 

I will get Daniels to give me an updated diff.gz and try to rebuild it
asap.  My system decided to eat its hard drive last night though so it
might be a few days. :

Chris Cheney




Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:58:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 aula-linux:~# apt-get install kpackage 
 Reading Package Lists... Done 
 Building Dependency Tree... Done 
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 
 or been moved out of Incoming. 
 
 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that 
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against 
 that package should be filed. 
 The following information may help to resolve the situation: 
 
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
   kpackage: Depends: librpm0 (= 4.0.2-18) but it is not installable 
 E: Sorry, broken packages 

A new kdeadmin, complete with kpackage built against librpm4, is coming
soon. Sit tight.

-- 
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Overfiend we're calling 2.2 POTATO??


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