Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-03-02 Thread Bjoern Krombholz
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 07:57:22PM +0100, Jens Benecke wrote:
> And I'd love to compile a current version as soon as somebody tells me
> why arts, kdelibs, etc etc do not compile because "libltdl" is missing
> as directory but still exists in Makefiles, and this missing library
> somehow prevents me from compiling everything. I have installed
> libltdl-dev from debian, this doesn't change anything.
> 
> I am syncing via cvsup from cvsup.kde.org, with this configuration:

cvsup seems to be the problem, libltdl subdir is created when using cvs
co.

You could copy the one from kdelibs into the arts directory.

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=101420036815166&w=2 <- explains the
reason.


Bjoern




Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-27 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Tuesday 26 February 2002 19:57, Jens Benecke wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:21:43PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
> wrote:
>  
> > You might have missed while reading the message below that I actually
> > *do* *need* KDE3. If Daniel can provide it I'd be *very* happy since
> > it'd save me a lot of work/keeping up to date/trying to compile etc.
> > As allways coordination is a good thing, which is happening here in
> > the person of DS.  And as allways many eyes do help finding bugs,
> 
> If it helps, I have a KDE beta1 compile (though tar.gz, installs in
> /opt/kde3) at ftp://134.28.62.2.
> 
> And I'd love to compile a current version as soon as somebody tells me
> why arts, kdelibs, etc etc do not compile because "libltdl" is missing
> as directory but still exists in Makefiles, and this missing library
> somehow prevents me from compiling everything. I have installed
> libltdl-dev from debian, this doesn't change anything.

Strange.  cvs also complains about missing arts/libltdl.  Nevertheless
make never had a problem to build the arts module (last arts build ~ 1 h ago)
Maybe you should clean up your arts cvsup dir and/or object dir.

Achim

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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-27 Thread Pablo de Vicente
El Mar 26 Feb 2002 19:57, Jens Benecke escribió:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:21:43PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
wrote:
> > You might have missed while reading the message below that I actually
> > *do* *need* KDE3. If Daniel can provide it I'd be *very* happy since
> > it'd save me a lot of work/keeping up to date/trying to compile etc.
> > As allways coordination is a good thing, which is happening here in
> > the person of DS.  And as allways many eyes do help finding bugs,
>
> If it helps, I have a KDE beta1 compile (though tar.gz, installs in
> /opt/kde3) at ftp://134.28.62.2.
>
> And I'd love to compile a current version as soon as somebody tells me
> why arts, kdelibs, etc etc do not compile because "libltdl" is missing
> as directory but still exists in Makefiles, and this missing library
> somehow prevents me from compiling everything. I have installed
> libltdl-dev from debian, this doesn't change anything.

 Jens,

 I also have a beta1 self compiled version of KDE 3 and it is bad news to 
hear that from you. I have not tried to compile the current version because I 
am waiting for the final release. For my purposes now (translation to spanish 
and checking that documentation compiles and works in KDE3 ) beta1 is enough. 

I have looking at the available libltdl-dev packages and seen that there are 
two:

libltdl3-dev 
libltdl0-dev

Have you tried both of them or just one?. I do not have the slightest idea of 
the difference between these two.


Pablo de Vicente




Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
On Tuesday 26 February 2002 04:33 am, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Update: I need to change /usr/share/kde3 to /usr/share for it to work
> (long story), but my build box is suddenly unroutable due to @home being
> stupid. Shit!
>
> Ironic that it's always up when I'm tooling around just trying to get
> the answer with no firm idea, yet when I know exactly what I want, it's
> screwed. Great.

Daniel:  

Have posted you a private reply, bugus lives .. .

/me finds another bug in kde . . .  argh

-- 

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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Daniel Stone wrote:

> Update: I need to change /usr/share/kde3 to /usr/share for it to work
> (long story), but my build box is suddenly unroutable due to @home being
> stupid. Shit!
>
> Ironic that it's always up when I'm tooling around just trying to get
> the answer with no firm idea, yet when I know exactly what I want, it's
> screwed. Great.

If you are having notorious problems with bandwidth/ horsepower/
connectivity I might try to help you. I'd take some time though. Please
contact me if that's the case.
*t


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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Rene Horn wrote:

> This is fine if you want to do this, but I am of the opinion that putting up
> KDE3 now is superfluous work since it is on the verge of its stable release.
> I think if we wait a little longer, we would benefit more since we will
> eventually have to compile that anyway and compiling takes a while.

You might have missed while reading the message below that I actually *do*
*need* KDE3. If Daniel can provide it I'd be *very* happy since it'd save
me a lot of work/keeping up to date/trying to compile etc. As allways
coordination is a good thing, which is happening here in the person of DS.
And as allways many eyes do help finding bugs, fixing them, testing etc.
which will make sure that as soon as KDE3 is out it will be in releasable
shape on Debian as well not to mention possibly valuable bugreports
forwarded upstream. Otherwise it'll take another month or something until
all issues are fixed and "why is Debian allways so late on providing
software X while Susi Dakehat has shipped is in their alpha-bug 2000
version allready...").

Todo claro?
*t

> On Tuesday 26 February 2002 12:29 am, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:28:08PM +, Kyle Gordon wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 22:42, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> > > > not much heard about KDE3.deb lately. Are there any KDE3
> > > > alpha/experimental debs around? Until last time when I worked upstream
> > > > on karm Ivan's alpha stuff did fine for me, but that's no longer the
> > > > case it seems.
> >
> > I have experimental .deb's which do not work. Everything segfaults on
> > load, I'm going to check this out, but it could be due to a botched
> > local qt3 install.
> >
> > > > I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
> > > > able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features
> > > > etc. It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.
> >
> > Give me 24 hours or so.
> >
> > > I'm new to the list, so forgive me if I ask silly questions :-p
> > >
> > > On a related note to Tomas' post, I noticed KDE3 (well, the splash
> > > screen at least :-) went into the unstable release a few weeks ago, but
> > > as of yet there has been no further updates. Is this normal practice, or
> > > does KDE take a little bit longer to settle in with Debian??
> >
> > KDE3 is not in unstable, and won't be for some time.


 Tomas Pospisek
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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Rene Horn
This is fine if you want to do this, but I am of the opinion that putting up 
KDE3 now is superfluous work since it is on the verge of its stable release.  
I think if we wait a little longer, we would benefit more since we will 
eventually have to compile that anyway and compiling takes a while.

Rene

On Tuesday 26 February 2002 12:29 am, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:28:08PM +, Kyle Gordon wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 22:42, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> > > not much heard about KDE3.deb lately. Are there any KDE3
> > > alpha/experimental debs around? Until last time when I worked upstream
> > > on karm Ivan's alpha stuff did fine for me, but that's no longer the
> > > case it seems.
>
> I have experimental .deb's which do not work. Everything segfaults on
> load, I'm going to check this out, but it could be due to a botched
> local qt3 install.
>
> > > I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
> > > able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features
> > > etc. It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.
>
> Give me 24 hours or so.
>
> > I'm new to the list, so forgive me if I ask silly questions :-p
> >
> > On a related note to Tomas' post, I noticed KDE3 (well, the splash
> > screen at least :-) went into the unstable release a few weeks ago, but
> > as of yet there has been no further updates. Is this normal practice, or
> > does KDE take a little bit longer to settle in with Debian??
>
> KDE3 is not in unstable, and won't be for some time.

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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 12:47:56PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 22:42, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> > > I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
> > > able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features etc.
> > > It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.
> >
> > Give me 24 hours or so.
> 
> Absolutely no problem. But please (that's a plea only, no pressure in my
> voice) give feedback to the list as soon as there's *anything* available.

Update: I need to change /usr/share/kde3 to /usr/share for it to work
(long story), but my build box is suddenly unroutable due to @home being
stupid. Shit!

Ironic that it's always up when I'm tooling around just trying to get
the answer with no firm idea, yet when I know exactly what I want, it's
screwed. Great.

-- 
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 apparently it's fun
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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Daniel Stone wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:28:08PM +, Kyle Gordon wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 22:42, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> > > not much heard about KDE3.deb lately. Are there any KDE3
> > > alpha/experimental debs around? Until last time when I worked upstream on
> > > karm Ivan's alpha stuff did fine for me, but that's no longer the case it
> > > seems.
>
> I have experimental .deb's which do not work. Everything segfaults on
> load, I'm going to check this out, but it could be due to a botched
> local qt3 install.
>
> > > I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
> > > able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features etc.
> > > It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.
>
> Give me 24 hours or so.

Absolutely no problem. But please (that's a plea only, no pressure in my
voice) give feedback to the list as soon as there's *anything* available.

Thanks a lot Daniel,
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux & Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
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 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11





Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-26 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:28:08PM +, Kyle Gordon wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 22:42, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> > not much heard about KDE3.deb lately. Are there any KDE3
> > alpha/experimental debs around? Until last time when I worked upstream on
> > karm Ivan's alpha stuff did fine for me, but that's no longer the case it
> > seems.

I have experimental .deb's which do not work. Everything segfaults on
load, I'm going to check this out, but it could be due to a botched
local qt3 install.

> > I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
> > able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features etc.
> > It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.

Give me 24 hours or so.

> I'm new to the list, so forgive me if I ask silly questions :-p
> 
> On a related note to Tomas' post, I noticed KDE3 (well, the splash
> screen at least :-) went into the unstable release a few weeks ago, but
> as of yet there has been no further updates. Is this normal practice, or
> does KDE take a little bit longer to settle in with Debian??

KDE3 is not in unstable, and won't be for some time.

-- 
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Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-25 Thread Kyle Gordon
On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 22:42, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> Hello PPL,
> 
> not much heard about KDE3.deb lately. Are there any KDE3
> alpha/experimental debs around? Until last time when I worked upstream on
> karm Ivan's alpha stuff did fine for me, but that's no longer the case it
> seems.
> 
> I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
> able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features etc.
> It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.
> 
> *t
> 
Hey folks,

I'm new to the list, so forgive me if I ask silly questions :-p

On a related note to Tomas' post, I noticed KDE3 (well, the splash
screen at least :-) went into the unstable release a few weeks ago, but
as of yet there has been no further updates. Is this normal practice, or
does KDE take a little bit longer to settle in with Debian??

Cheers folks,

Kyle






KDE3 alpha .debs around?

2002-02-25 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
Hello PPL,

not much heard about KDE3.deb lately. Are there any KDE3
alpha/experimental debs around? Until last time when I worked upstream on
karm Ivan's alpha stuff did fine for me, but that's no longer the case it
seems.

I'd really could use *any* quality of KDE-head debs, I only need to be
able to aproximately compile and start some stuff to check features etc.
It doesn't have to be anything near perfect or stable.

*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux & Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11