Konqueror still usable?

2015-06-18 Thread Frank Mehnert
Hi,

I'm using KDE for many years and I was always using the Konqueror web
browser in situations where I need a quick web browser and didn't want
to start the more heavy firefox or chrome browser. For instance when
reading some news page. I have flash and java disabled for Konqueror
but for some time using Konqueror is more and more annoying. Adblock
needs manual tweaking and I experience strange delays when opening
web pages, could be script-related.

Does it still make sense to use Konqueror in certain situations, are
there some hints for improving the configuration or should I just
uninstall it?

Thanks,

Frank


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Re: Konqueror still usable?

2015-06-18 Thread Alex DEKKER

On 18/06/15 17:26, Frank Mehnert wrote:

Does it still make sense to use Konqueror in certain situations, are
there some hints for improving the configuration or should I just
uninstall it?


I use it with Javascript, Java, cookies and images disabled; obviously 
this isn't going to work for a great many websites but for my purposes 
it's great. The Load Images button is there [apart from when the HTML 
Toolbar disappears, which is far too often] for when a page has an image 
of interest on it. Sometimes a page won't render well and switching the 
view mode to Webkit fixes that. I use Firefox [well, Iceweasel] for 
things that need a login but 90% of my browsing is in Konqueror. I 
suspect that puts me in the 1% of the 1%.


One recent annoyance is that Google won't accept search queries from 
Konqueror without Javascript enabled [puts you in an endless reload 
loop, eventually you have to fill in a captcha]; luckily Konqueror has 
domain-specific policies that let you fix that. Another fix that worked 
was pretending to be IE on Windows 2000. Someone on IRC told me elinks 
had the same problem, but I've just checked now and Google seem to have 
reverted this change.


Something in Konqueror that broke years ago was search queries from the 
search box, but I don't miss it.


alexd


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Re: Konqueror still usable?

2015-06-18 Thread Raúl Sánchez Siles
  Hi:

El Jueves, 18 de junio de 2015 18:26:27 Frank Mehnert escribió:
 Hi,
 
 I'm using KDE for many years and I was always using the Konqueror web
 browser in situations where I need a quick web browser and didn't want
 to start the more heavy firefox or chrome browser. For instance when
 reading some news page. I have flash and java disabled for Konqueror
 but for some time using Konqueror is more and more annoying. Adblock
 needs manual tweaking and I experience strange delays when opening
 web pages, could be script-related.
 
 Does it still make sense to use Konqueror in certain situations, are
 there some hints for improving the configuration or should I just
 uninstall it?

  I know what you mean. I'm in the same situation. I've been using konqueror 
since I started using Debian and that was lng ago. It used to be a great 
browser: fast, light, featureful. Unfortunately it's not like this anymore. 

  Take this example. I'm a heavy tab user and there's a annoying bug that 
freezes konqueror when you close a tab (I think it's related to KJS). I'm 
telling you this because I'm afraid core web modules are no longer maintained, 
being javascript interpreter one of the most influencing in the user 
experience.

  Besides this, there are 2 rendering engines for html: KHTML and Webkit. KDE 
decided to used webkit as default engine and it indeeds improve user 
experience. I'm not sure when the switch happened since I'm always being in 
favour of KHTML whose integration was better. Nowaydays, unfortunately both 
have problems with the most recent features a browser are required. For 
instance, HTML5 videos works on some webs with KHTML and not with Webkit, 
whereas webkit works better on pages with heavy JS usage.

  It's even worse if you try and use for a short time iceweasel, like it 
happened to me. Then you get used to get things working on almost all cases 
and you are subconsciently moved away from konqueror. Anyway, I still resist. 
Let's see.

  Disclaimer: I haven't use KF5 yet. I don't know how things are there.

 
 Thanks,
 
 Frank

  That's my experience, HTH.

-- 
 Raúl Sánchez Siles
-Proud Debian user-
Linux registered user #416098

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Re: Konqueror still usable?

2015-06-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2015-06-18, 18:26:27, Frank Mehnert wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm using KDE for many years and I was always using the Konqueror web
 browser in situations where I need a quick web browser and didn't want
 to start the more heavy firefox or chrome browser. For instance when
 reading some news page. I have flash and java disabled for Konqueror
 but for some time using Konqueror is more and more annoying. Adblock
 needs manual tweaking and I experience strange delays when opening
 web pages, could be script-related.
 
 Does it still make sense to use Konqueror in certain situations, are
 there some hints for improving the configuration or should I just
 uninstall it?

I've been using Konqueror as my main browser for as long as it exists I think 
and I am still using it as such.
I've switched to WebKti as the render engine some time ago though.

Cheers,
Kevin


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