Konsole issues
Hi, I just resurrected my desktop box after it's been languishing in a corner for months and decided to bring it up to date and also put KDE4 on it in a single swoop. Whilst it eventually worked (I'm not sure if I did something odd or if my apt-get has gone funny as I had to manually specify a large number of the dependencies on the command line rather than just kde4 itself, which meant I somehow missed out on systemsettings...), I don't think hugely of it's looks at the moment and am trying to make it a bit more comparable to my old KDE3 setup. The only major issue I've had thus far (that I've found) is that on konsole the cursor seems to be pretending to be several spaces over to the right. The text appears in the correct place, but the cursor is mispositioned... I've fiddled with the font settings but that doesn't seem to change. And oh yes, this is on a completely fresh account, no user settings at all. I'm probably missing something obvious TBH... -- ZoeP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xfonts-konsole issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, while trying to figure out why the heck I sometimes have a problem with konsole on some machines and not on other machines I found out the following issue: xfonts-* packages have a call for update-fonts-dir update-fonts-alias in their postinst/postrm so those probably need to be added to the xfonts-konsole package too in their respective postinst/postrm. Further, xfonts-konsole packages: /usr/share/fonts/9x15.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz which means that 9x15.pcf.gz is missing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/. Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. Chris, Daniel, do you know anything about that ? I would very much like to bring this into a usable state so people don't run into the same problems over and over again. A postinst/postrm scheme for processing the update-fonts commands can be found in the respective xfree86 packages, so it is kind of easy to add that to kdebase in CVS for KDE_3_1_BRANCH and HEAD. Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rTWbu0nKi+w1Ky8RAg2sAJwJSIMps97WTAD9iMm5Oa8eqBkStQCeJ293 k6kk0k2QW89v9aQll0be3Jo= =Ke34 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 04:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: while trying to figure out why the heck I sometimes have a problem with konsole on some machines and not on other machines I found out the following issue: xfonts-* packages have a call for update-fonts-dir update-fonts-alias in their postinst/postrm so those probably need to be added to the xfonts-konsole package too in their respective postinst/postrm. Further, xfonts-konsole packages: /usr/share/fonts/9x15.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz which means that 9x15.pcf.gz is missing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/. Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. Chris, Daniel, do you know anything about that ? I would very much like to bring this into a usable state so people don't run into the same problems over and over again. A postinst/postrm scheme for processing the update-fonts commands can be found in the respective xfree86 packages, so it is kind of easy to add that to kdebase in CVS for KDE_3_1_BRANCH and HEAD. I could believe that, yeah. Looks like: * They need to go in /usr/share/fonts/misc, or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc. * postinst/postrm *DEFINITELY* needs to call update-fonts-*! -- Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer, Trinity College, University of Melbourne pgp0vrvz4Bm4C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 28. April 2003 16:18, Daniel Stone wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 04:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: while trying to figure out why the heck I sometimes have a problem with konsole on some machines and not on other machines I found out the following issue: xfonts-* packages have a call for update-fonts-dir update-fonts-alias in their postinst/postrm so those probably need to be added to the xfonts-konsole package too in their respective postinst/postrm. Further, xfonts-konsole packages: /usr/share/fonts/9x15.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz which means that 9x15.pcf.gz is missing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/. Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. Chris, Daniel, do you know anything about that ? I would very much like to bring this into a usable state so people don't run into the same problems over and over again. A postinst/postrm scheme for processing the update-fonts commands can be found in the respective xfree86 packages, so it is kind of easy to add that to kdebase in CVS for KDE_3_1_BRANCH and HEAD. I could believe that, yeah. Looks like: * They need to go in /usr/share/fonts/misc, or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc. They are currently, for whatever reason, installed in both except 9x15.pcf.gz. Where do they have to go to now ? I'd propose /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc because that's where they belong to. * postinst/postrm *DEFINITELY* needs to call update-fonts-*! Should we copy + paste this from your xf4.3/debian/xfonts-base.postinst/postrm ? I'm on IRC if you want to do this now :-) Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rT5Yu0nKi+w1Ky8RAqsxAJ9xRAKtlzwyWFAhll9fN1jFg8UpuQCeM5RJ lRf85wA90nOJMSqOHICVF4w= =rAK6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 28. April 2003 16:18, Daniel Stone wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 04:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: /usr/share/fonts/9x15.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz Update: debian/xfonts-konsole.links just creates the two links for console*pcf.gz files, not for the 9x15.pcf.gz file. Those three get installed into /usr/share/fonts, so what's needed is probably: xfonts-konsole.install: fix location to /usr/share/fonts/misc xfonts-konsole.links: add missing symlink and change /usr/share/fonts - /usr/share/fonts/misc. Then the missing postinst/postrm and we're set. Ralf which means that 9x15.pcf.gz is missing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/. Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. Chris, Daniel, do you know anything about that ? I would very much like to bring this into a usable state so people don't run into the same problems over and over again. A postinst/postrm scheme for processing the update-fonts commands can be found in the respective xfree86 packages, so it is kind of easy to add that to kdebase in CVS for KDE_3_1_BRANCH and HEAD. I could believe that, yeah. Looks like: * They need to go in /usr/share/fonts/misc, or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc. * postinst/postrm *DEFINITELY* needs to call update-fonts-*! - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rUP0u0nKi+w1Ky8RAndrAKCw7XwaLNCw2fSdZJ7a9M9CVSKprgCgh5Sk KYkaFWDilQSTs5T15Ehqlqc= =TO70 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 04:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, while trying to figure out why the heck I sometimes have a problem with konsole on some machines and not on other machines I found out the following issue: xfonts-* packages have a call for update-fonts-dir update-fonts-alias in their postinst/postrm so those probably need to be added to the xfonts-konsole package too in their respective postinst/postrm. Further, xfonts-konsole packages: I think this should be taken care of by dh_installxfonts which is already in the rules file but I don't remember why it is isn't happening for kde right now. /usr/share/fonts/9x15.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz which means that 9x15.pcf.gz is missing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/. Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. Isn't this really an upstream issue? The fonts are being dumped directly into fontdir, which is (/usr/share/fonts) in our case, by it. Also a 9x15 font is already in Xfree xfonts-base package so that font in xfonts-konsole should likely go away entirely, to keep from confusing the font subsystem. usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/9x15.pcf.gzx11/xfonts-base Chris, Daniel, do you know anything about that ? I would very much like to bring this into a usable state so people don't run into the same problems over and over again. A postinst/postrm scheme for processing the update-fonts commands can be found in the respective xfree86 packages, so it is kind of easy to add that to kdebase in CVS for KDE_3_1_BRANCH and HEAD. Regardless of the above issues this shouldn't be the reason people are having font problems with KDE since Qt no longer uses the standard Xfree method for locating fonts. According to puetzk the reason we see font substitions happening is because Qt lists fonts that Xfree can see but can't actually use them. If I remember correctly the fix is in Qt 3.1.2 and is to not list fonts from Xfree at all. Chris
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 28. April 2003 18:44, Chris Cheney wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 04:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. Isn't this really an upstream issue? The fonts are being dumped directly into fontdir, which is (/usr/share/fonts) in our case, by it. Also a 9x15 font is already in Xfree xfonts-base package so that font in xfonts-konsole should likely go away entirely, to keep from confusing the font subsystem. It is, because you usually install KDE into $KDEDIR - which is by default /usr/local/kde; on a SuSE system this would be /opt/kde3. As we're using /usr as a prefix, the font files end up in /usr/share/fonts. I've fixed the issues in both HEAD and BRANCH now like discussed with Chris on IRC. Regardless of the above issues this shouldn't be the reason people are having font problems with KDE since Qt no longer uses the standard Xfree method for locating fonts. According to puetzk the reason we see font substitions happening is because Qt lists fonts that Xfree can see but can't actually use them. If I remember correctly the fix is in Qt 3.1.2 and is to not list fonts from Xfree at all. Qt 3.1.2 isn't in unstable :-) and it will take a while since the problem is related to glibc IIRC what madkiss said why he couldn't upload it yet. Qt 3.2 will come out as a beta this week but that won't help too much I guess. Ralf Chris - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rWVOu0nKi+w1Ky8RApnxAKC38yjK7cYGIcMscUFZwHEgLKgwOACgunK7 Dey6ExE/r75WgyXmVtA+vDI= =LBhx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 07:30:51PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: Regardless of the above issues this shouldn't be the reason people are having font problems with KDE since Qt no longer uses the standard Xfree method for locating fonts. According to puetzk the reason we see font substitions happening is because Qt lists fonts that Xfree can see but can't actually use them. If I remember correctly the fix is in Qt 3.1.2 and is to not list fonts from Xfree at all. Qt 3.1.2 isn't in unstable :-) and it will take a while since the problem is related to glibc IIRC what madkiss said why he couldn't upload it yet. Qt 3.2 will come out as a beta this week but that won't help too much I guess. Yes, I know, the point was that Qt doesn't use XFree's fonts now but instead substitutes fonts in place of the one you think you are choosing. The fact that XFree doesn't know about the font, by not being in its /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc and in fonts.dir file, doesn't matter to KDE since Qt doesn't actually use them for anything other than the actual list of fonts anyway. Of course by registering the console fonts with Xfree other non-Qt and non-fontconfig apps will be able to use them as well, which is a good thing. Chris
Re: xfonts-konsole issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 28 Apr 2003 3:07 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote: Hi guys, while trying to figure out why the heck I sometimes have a problem with konsole on some machines and not on other machines I found out the following issue: xfonts-* packages have a call for update-fonts-dir update-fonts-alias in their postinst/postrm Since QT uses fontconfig for locating fonts should not fc-cache be called? so those probably need to be added to the xfonts-konsole package too in their respective postinst/postrm. Further, xfonts-konsole packages: /usr/share/fonts/9x15.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x8.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz which means that 9x15.pcf.gz is missing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/. Also the question is why they get installed in /usr/share/fonts instead of /usr/share/fonts/misc. When I was trying to find out why konsole never used these fonts, I discovered that fontconfig matched a japanese font in preference to these anyway. This was to do with them both having the family name of fixed (the other font is in xfonts-base which has to be installed with an xserver). I suspect there is a random choice based upon which order directories are searched. I ended up adding some lines into the /etc/fonts/local.conf to specify that I wanted the console to be the default fixed font. [This is only related to the font that konsole picks in the normal case. In fact there is a potential konsole bug here in that it should ask for monospace font rather than fixed so I am not proposing that you do anything with the /etc/fonts/* files.] - -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rXZjuFHxcV2FFoIRAn2FAJ9ZKqW0O43NrPAFkAu+cGZeSIXXFgCgkJ7Y ThjzFYQxmqaZdOsXSMzq+Oc= =U9Fc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
konsole issues
I'm running unstable, so I have KDE 2.2.1. Whenever I make an app launcher and check 'run in terminal', it runs the app (like Mutt) inside of an xterm and not konsole. I've even looked into the whole System::Konsole::General section of kcontrol and those settings have no effect. Any ideas as to why this happens? -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG Key ID 0xC9C40C31 (preferred) pgppEIvvXHB74.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: konsole issues
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:24:14PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: I'm running unstable, so I have KDE 2.2.1. Whenever I make an app launcher and check 'run in terminal', it runs the app (like Mutt) inside of an xterm and not konsole. I've even looked into the whole System::Konsole::General section of kcontrol and those settings have no effect. Any ideas as to why this happens? In the System/Konsole, in kcontrol, there is an option Do not use Konsole as default terminal application. It should be unchecked. Greetings, Wilco
Re: konsole issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 October 2001 02:59 pm, Wilco Greven wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:24:14PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: I'm running unstable, so I have KDE 2.2.1. Whenever I make an app launcher and check 'run in terminal', it runs the app (like Mutt) inside of an xterm and not konsole. I've even looked into the whole System::Konsole::General section of kcontrol and those settings have no effect. Any ideas as to why this happens? In the System/Konsole, in kcontrol, there is an option Do not use Konsole as default terminal application. It should be unchecked. Also, check and see what /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator points to. $$'s to donut holes it is pointing to /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm. Use update-alternatives to change that. HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71Kx3KEJ4huP2XBERAnEiAJ4wb5jnRN0zPfszlvX47ve93BbABgCaA3oA iRPjcJRx1W0Gk8AhjGUaasU= =72PD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: konsole issues
Thus spake Jens Benecke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In kcontrol the 'console' application is probably set for 'x-terminal-emulator', which is the default 'terminal emulator' for _all_ Debian applications. You can either change that (only for KDE) or change x-terminal-emulator via 'update-alternatives' which makes konsole available to all applications that need a terminal. Thanks for the tip (you too David) -- using update-alternatives did the trick. I still can't figure out why KDE wasn't paying attention to the setting in kcontrol though -- that is the very one I was toggling. I'd like to think that it would work and I wouldn't have to change the system-wide default (though it's ok in this case). -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG Key ID 0xC9C40C31 (preferred) pgpJIUKl8THJT.pgp Description: PGP signature
