Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-13 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Hendrik Sattler [Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:08:04 +0200]:

> Maybe the Debian-QT-Team could NMU kaffeine-0.6? It is proven to compile and 
> it would be a perfect intermediate solution until kaffeine-0.7.1 gets 
> packaged.

  Nah, I contacted Zack and we're expecting an upload today or tomorrow.
  So no point, really.

  Cheers,

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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 13. September 2005 16:01 schrieb Žáček Kryštof:
>  What about simply waking up the kaffeine maintainer ?

I already did that on the kaffeine upstream list[1]. He currently cannot due 
to personal circumstances (if I understood him correctly).

Maybe the Debian-QT-Team could NMU kaffeine-0.6? It is proven to compile and 
it would be a perfect intermediate solution until kaffeine-0.7.1 gets 
packaged.

I just ran "apt-get source -b -uc kaffeine" and dpkg'ed it. Worked (you need 
the build-deps, though).
I can also upload it to "yet another repository" (apt-0.6 compatible) if 
there's a need for it.

HS

[1]: 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8156528&forum_id=34875



RE: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-13 Thread Žáček Kryštof
 What about simply waking up the kaffeine maintainer ?

> -Original Message-
> From: Michelasso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:46 PM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose
> 
> On 9/13/05, Giacomo Lacava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Then maybe you can help me to solve this problem I have 
> when using it:
> > > building sources works for almost all packages, but when going to 
> > > install them apt-build fails with this error:
> > 
> > uhm... I don't have my machine with me at the moment, but: which 
> > version of apt-build are you using? are you running Sid or Sarge? I 
> > strongly invite you to write to Julien, the maintainer ( acid AT 
> > debian_org ) about this...
> >
> 
> Hello,
> I am using apt-build 0.12.10 in sid for amd64; I have found a 
> bug report similar to this (the only difference was that 
> segfault isn't mentioned there) in bug list of apt-build, 
> that has been closed by the maintainer saying "you have to 
> deal with apt-key to authenticate your packages", but I 
> couldn't find any clear explanation so far on *how* to deal 
> with it. However, I have added my informations to the bug 
> report and  maybe I will get an answer from the maintainer.
> Bye.
> 
> 



Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-13 Thread Michelasso
On 9/13/05, Giacomo Lacava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Then maybe you can help me to solve this problem I have when using it:
> > building sources works for almost all packages, but when going to
> > install them apt-build fails with this error:
> 
> uhm... I don't have my machine with me at the moment, but: which
> version of apt-build are you using? are you running Sid or Sarge? I
> strongly invite you to write to Julien, the maintainer ( acid AT
> debian_org ) about this...
>

Hello,
I am using apt-build 0.12.10 in sid for amd64; I have found a bug
report similar to this (the only difference was that segfault isn't
mentioned there) in bug list of apt-build, that has been closed by the
maintainer saying "you have to deal with apt-key to authenticate your
packages", but I couldn't find any clear explanation so far on *how*
to deal with it. However, I have added my informations to the bug
report and  maybe I will get an answer from the maintainer.
Bye.



Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-13 Thread Giacomo Lacava
> Then maybe you can help me to solve this problem I have when using it:
> building sources works for almost all packages, but when going to
> install them apt-build fails with this error:

uhm... I don't have my machine with me at the moment, but: which
version of apt-build are you using? are you running Sid or Sarge? I
strongly invite you to write to Julien, the maintainer ( acid AT
debian_org ) about this...

cheers
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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread Nick Leverton
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 06:01:24PM +0200, David Martínez Moreno wrote:
 
>   fakeroot did not manage to build only one package in this time: 
> mozilla. Its 
> build system was broken, and it was needed to build as root (due to a some 
> file opertaion only able to do as root, if I recall right). So please do not 
> spread false information. ;-)

Fakeroot had problems with some packages on some filesystems
(e.g. building nullmailer on Reiserfs) back in Woody days, but that was
fixed some time ago.  I've built dozens of other packages before and
since without any trouble.

Nick


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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El lunes, 12 de septiembre de 2005 17:19, Giacomo Lacava escribió:
> In my experience, fakeroot is broken and rarely works at all, so I
> rely on sudo and I'm happy with it. I don't run hardened webservers
> though, and the packages are built on the same machine I will install
> them on.

Hello, Giacomo. I do not know your experience, but my experience is 
building 
packages as Debian maintainer during 4 years. I maintain several packages. 
And this means a *lot* of packages (given that we usually build other 
packages for NMUs, or backports for our own use).

fakeroot did not manage to build only one package in this time: 
mozilla. Its 
build system was broken, and it was needed to build as root (due to a some 
file opertaion only able to do as root, if I recall right). So please do not 
spread false information. ;-)

And it is not only my word. In the Debian Developer's Reference:

 A.Overview of Debian Maintainer Tools
 A.1.  Core tools
 A.1.1. `dpkg-dev'
 A.1.2. `debconf'
 A.1.3. `fakeroot'


fakeroot is a core tool for Debian developers.

Best regards,


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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread Giacomo Lacava
> Huh? Use sudo or su, if that works for you

just for the record, su won't work because it needs extra parameters
that dpkg won't pass.
So it's down to sudo, fakeroot or (never tried) "really".
:)
cheers
Giacomo



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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread Michelasso
On 9/12/05, Giacomo Lacava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> uhm, it looks like apt-build doesn't like your environment. I take you
> already upgraded to gcc 4 and updated libc6 and binutils... can you
> please post your config.log so that we can see the problem? :)
> 
> and yes, apt-build rocks. It's not yet a Gentoo-killer, but certainly
> a nice tool :)

Then maybe you can help me to solve this problem I have when using it:
building sources works for almost all packages, but when going to
install them apt-build fails with this error:

Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  picwiz
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/34.5kB of archives.
After unpacking 106kB of additional disk space will be used.
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  picwiz
E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
Segmentation fault

I can still then install the package by hand with dpkg -i but I would
like to have apt-build to do all the job. So I investigated a little
in man pages of apt-key and apt-secure, but I couldn't find a working
solution*.
Any help will be appreciated.

Bye.

-
* In fact I tried the following:

1) I created a gpg key for root:
# gpg --gen-key

2) I signed with it the release file in local repository of apt-build:
# cd /var/cache/apt-build/repository
# gpg -abs -o Release.gpg Release

3) I have add teh key to the accepted ones:
# gpg --armor --export rootkeyid | apt-key add -

but this seems not to work since, according to what written in
apt-secure man page, you need to update the signature every time a new
package is uploaded to the repository, and this cannot be done
automatically by apt-build after the compilation and before installing
the package.



Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Lunes, 12 de Septiembre de 2005 17:19, Giacomo Lacava escribió:
> In my experience, fakeroot is broken and rarely works at all

Huh? Use sudo or su, if that works for you, but fakeroot *always* worked here, 
and I can't imagine a reason for not using it.

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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread Giacomo Lacava
In my experience, fakeroot is broken and rarely works at all, so I
rely on sudo and I'm happy with it. I don't run hardened webservers
though, and the packages are built on the same machine I will install
them on.

cheers
Giacomo

On 12/09/05, David Martínez Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> El lunes, 12 de septiembre de 2005 00:26, Giacomo Lacava escribió:
> [...]
> > from scratch thanks to the magical dpkg-* tools:
> >
> > apt-get source kompose-some-version
> > cd kompose-some-version
> > dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo -D && cd ..
> > dpkg -i kompose-some-version.deb
> 
>You should not use sudo. The build would be running as root and that is
> completely unacceptable. The right command to build a package is:
> 
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (I have never used -D, but it is your election).
> 
>Best regards,
> 
> 
>Ender.
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>  So tomorrow from 5 to 7 will you PLEASE act like you have more than a
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> 
> 


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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El lunes, 12 de septiembre de 2005 00:26, Giacomo Lacava escribió:
[...]
> from scratch thanks to the magical dpkg-* tools:
>
> apt-get source kompose-some-version
> cd kompose-some-version
> dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo -D && cd ..
> dpkg -i kompose-some-version.deb

You should not use sudo. The build would be running as root and that is 
completely unacceptable. The right command to build a package is:

dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (I have never used -D, but it is your election).

Best regards,


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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-12 Thread Giacomo Lacava
> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C
> compiler cannot create executables
> See `config.log' for more details.

uhm, it looks like apt-build doesn't like your environment. I take you
already upgraded to gcc 4 and updated libc6 and binutils... can you
please post your config.log so that we can see the problem? :)

and yes, apt-build rocks. It's not yet a Gentoo-killer, but certainly
a nice tool :)

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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-11 Thread James Spencer
I went down the apt-build path, it worked well for me. That is a nice
little tool to use! I knew you could rebuild DEBs, but I'm a RPM
refugee... I was quite used to rpm --rebuild, but atp-build's 'just
fetch the damn devel packages' was nice. Sweet!

I'll just wait for the new koffice packages, who knows maybe I'll finally get a chance to play with krita...

Thanks!



Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-11 Thread Lawrence Williams
Hello,

I've had working packages of KOffice 1.4.1 backported from Ubuntu, with 
appropriate dependency changes and the like, since last week. I contact Mr. 
Burton about using them, but he has some major plans for improving the 
packaging IIRC.

Lawrence

On September 11, 2005 09:14 pm, Edward Dunagin wrote:
> i installed apt-build, and was asked some questions about
> what gcc and make  configuration i wanted 
> hoping that it would take care of its self, but gee..guess it
> didn't.



Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-11 Thread Edward Dunagin
wow, i think i stepped into something wrote:

> > "when" type mails, but does anybody have any info on when a person
> can
> > expect to see the following (all pretty and packaged) on a debian
> mirror: 
> 
> KOffice should come pretty soon (a few weeks), afaik; for Kompose you
> should have a word with the developer (check on kde-apps.org), idem
> for Kaffeine.
> Note that small apps like Kaffeine and Kompose are a breeze to build
> from scratch thanks to the magical dpkg-* tools:
> 
> apt-get source kompose-some-version
> cd kompose-some-version
> dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo -D && cd .. 
> dpkg -i kompose-some-version.deb
> 
> et voila' :) 
> 
> it's even easier with apt-build, if installed:
> apt-build install kompose

i installed apt-build, and was asked some questions about
what gcc and make  configuration i wanted 
hoping that it would take care of its self, but gee..guess it 
didn't.

i ran apt-build install kompose and go these errors:

checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C
compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
make: *** [config.status] Error 77
> Cleaning up object files <-
Cleaning in directory .
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
rm -f build-stamp
# Add here commands to clean up after the build process.
/usr/bin/make distclean
make[1]: Entering directory `/var/cache/apt-build/build/kompose-0.5.1'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/cache/apt-build/build/kompose-0.5.1'
make: [clean] Error 2 (ignored)
cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub
cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess
dh_clean
Error while building kompose!
Sorry, no package to install.

any suggestions on how to clean it up. btw, in looking over the man
page for apt-build, it seems to be a lot of a powerfull application!

Peace..ed



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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-11 Thread Giacomo Lacava
> "when" type mails, but does anybody have any info on when a person can
> expect to see the following (all pretty and packaged) on a debian mirror: 

KOffice should come pretty soon (a few weeks), afaik; for Kompose you
should have a word with the developer (check on kde-apps.org), idem
for Kaffeine.
Note that small apps like Kaffeine and Kompose are a breeze to build
from scratch thanks to the magical dpkg-* tools:

apt-get source kompose-some-version
cd kompose-some-version
dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo -D && cd .. 
dpkg -i kompose-some-version.deb

et voila' :) 

it's even easier with apt-build, if installed:
apt-build install kompose

cheers
Giacomo
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Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

2005-09-10 Thread James Spencer



	

	
	
	
	
	


Hi, first I'd like to congratulate
all of the kde packagers who did such a good job of getting KDE
3.4.2, k3b, KDE Web Dev, the GTK-QT theme engine thingy, and Amarok
packaged after the ABI transition (and many others)... Everything is working great. I
suspect everybody on this list is sick of "when" type mails, but
does anybody have any info on when a person can expect to see the following (all
pretty and packaged) on a debian mirror:

-Kaffine
-Koffice
-Kompose

I'm looking forward to completing my
"KDE Stack", any info from those in "the know" would be
appreciated... Heh, if I go and rebuild the packages I'm sure the
packager(s) will release their newer versions the hour after :)

Thanks for any info!

_James