Re: Kwork/Koffice
El Mar 30 Oct 2001 11:41, Jens Benecke escribió: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 08:57:12PM +0100, Jens Benecke wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 02:36:01PM -0500, Bob Koss wrote: > > > Would TeX (LaTeX) be a suitable replacement for PowerPoint? > > > > Depends. > > OK, I correct myself. I've just seen prosper (see other post in this > thread) and I'm amazed. I actually didn't expect this to be possible with > LaTeX (although, I didn't think anything would be _IM_possible with LaTeX > either... whatever ;). I agree too. I constantly work with LaTeX and I was completely surprised to see the screenshots. I am going to try prosper. Pablo de Vicente KDE Spanish translation team.
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Hi, I agree that latex isn't a presentation program, but there are some addons available. There is the prosper package and the pdfscreen package. Both are made to be used with pdflatex and the output is a pdf-file that is optimized for screen/beamer presentation. All that's needed then is acroread to view those presentations. Of course the steep learning curve remains, but if you are already used to LaTeX for publications, then it's not a big step. Both prosper and pdfscreen are apt-gettable in SID and woody. They are worth a tryin my opinion. Ciao Marc On Monday 29 October 2001 20:57, Jens Benecke wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 02:36:01PM -0500, Bob Koss wrote: > > Would TeX (LaTeX) be a suitable replacement for PowerPoint? > > Depends. > > If you want presentation with animations, 100 different fonts, etc. then > the answer is no. Use StarOffice. > > > However: LaTeX is _not_ a presentation program. It's a text processor. (Not > even a 'word processor'.). It focuses on the text structure, easily > readable layout, and not WYSIWYG. LaTeX is a WYMIWYG (what you mean is what > you get) type of program, you don't have to know anything about layout, DTP > or whatever to be able to produce perfectly layouted text. Marc Schumann Physikalische Anstalt Universitaet Basel Klingelbergstrasse 82 Tel:++41-61-267-3753 4056 Basel Fax:++41-61-267-1349 Switzerland Fortune Cookie of the Hour: Help fight continental drift.
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Em Seg 29 Out 2001 17:36, Bob Koss escreveu: > Would TeX (LaTeX) be a suitable replacement for PowerPoint? Weird question for debian-kde.:-) To use latex/tex to produce highquality slides that may be viewed in full-screen mode in acroread you may use prosper. (apt-get install prosper should work in woody). See: http://prosper.sourceforge.net/ Best regards, Paulo -- Paulo José da Silva e Silva Professor Assistente do Dep. de Ciência da Computação (Assistant Professor of the Computer Science Dept.) Universidade de São Paulo - Brazil e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rsilva Teoria é o que não entendemos o (Theory is something we don't) suficiente para chamar de prática. (understand well enough to call practice)
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Would TeX (LaTeX) be a suitable replacement for PowerPoint? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
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* Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-10-25 02:49]: > papers for grad school. Last semester I had to resort to Star Office because > the professor required submissions in doc format. SO was adequate for the Well, you can always convert the Postscript output from TeX to a lot of GIF images (one per page) for inclusion in a Word document :-) Cheers, Nils
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- Original Message - From: "Bruce Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:40 AM > On the appearance of the guide: This was the first document that I have > drafted in AbiWord. As a work in progress, AbiWord has no help files. The You might want to consider using DocBook. KDE uses DocBook for all its documentation and it can be converted into numerous formats. http://www.docbook.org/ Ciao, Gordon
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I am taking the liberty of sending you a copy of my 0.02 version of a not quite newbies' guide to running a ``mixed" Debian system. Following is the cover message which I sent to the 25+ plus people who e- mailed me asking for a copy: [forwarded message begins] I have already had some kind comments on the ``How to upgrade to KDE 2.2.1 - a not quite newbies' guide''. Thank you. Less than kind comments, criticisms, suggestions for improvements, etc, etc all welcome. . A kind offer to host the draft on a website reminded me that my ISP does offer Web space which I had in fact been using to back up the webmaster of our church web site (see plug below). There is enough space for two copies of a 12K document. The URL is http://members.home.com/brucemiller1 and I hope to have the post mounted by Friday morning. In the meantime, the text is attached. I will also post this message on the Libranet message list as soon as I get the new web page mounted. When it is more finished, I would like to post this document to a Web site where it could be more readily found. Does anyone know if www.debian.org have an area for informal contributions? The guide is not formal enough to be a HOW-TO or even a mini-HOW-TO. Does anyone read www.debianplanet.org ? or www.linuxnewbie.org ? On the appearance of the guide: This was the first document that I have drafted in AbiWord. As a work in progress, AbiWord has no help files. The help documentation on the abisource Web site covers only the most basic functions (everyone knows how to open files or change fonts; why not put in something useful like how to insert a Web hyperlink ?? :-( The HTML version of the guide is a straight ``Save as HTML'' from AbiWord's editing screen. I am concentrating at the moment on content and will put the text into better HTML once the content is nailed down. Off-topic plug: Most of the web page space is given to two MP3s from the Choir of St Matthew's Anglican Church in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. The musical tradition of the Anglican Church (the Episcopalian Church in the USA) is not everyone's favourite, especially as it is based on choirs of men and boys (boy sopranos, or ``trebles'' as they are known) but it is a tradition that is centuries old and very beautiful. Our small central Ottawa parish has a 45-year history of one of the finest church choirs in North America. In the four years since our youngest son joined the choir, two former Head Choristers have had soloist debuts at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City. The CD from which these two MP3s were drawn was a project to support the CAD 500,000 (US$ 350,000) project to restore the church organ. The restoration is scheduled to be completed at the end of November 2001. [forwarded message ends] On 25 Oct 2001 at 20:20, Tom Allison wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Date sent: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:20:42 -0400 From: Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chris Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Copies to: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject:Re: Kwork/Koffice Forwarded by: debian-kde@lists.debian.org How do I do that? I vaguely remember something about a command line to apt-get that will point a package/package mask to a specific distro (stable/woody/testing/sid/...) but I didn't see anything in 'man apt-get'
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've used abiword, kword, and openoffice (latest build). Here's my feedback: abiword: Abiword is great! It's fast, it imports word documents well, it just doesn't have table support, and it doesn't save to .doc either. kword: KWord is good for smaller documents. It get's really slow on large documents. It imports .doc's but doesn't export them, and it integrates nicely w/ the rest of the koffice stuff. openoffice: slow, and not the most stable thing on the planet, but it opens and saves msoffice doc's near perfectly, and once it's running it tends to handle large documents fairly quickly. == "... all thoughts of selfish desire, ill-will, hatred and violence are the result of a lack of wisdom ... " - Buddha For an awsome fantasy role playing game checkout: http://lycadican.sourceforge.net GPG KeyID=04B7F7F8 GPG Fingerprint=4B0F 7202 FAFF D146 5F56 9E83 BE7F D7F7 04B7 F7F8 == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72LnYvn/X9wS39/gRAiaJAJ9/ced9aI/KqnWduC7Ox70V0uICTgCg6YER sY5KY7OGcM2qFZA1kxGlT4Q= =SwJb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Chris Howells wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Tom Allison wrote: Current: Under the Woody/Testing version of Debian I have Kword 1.1 (pre-beta2) on KDE 2.1.2. You should most definitely upgrade to KDE 2.2.1 and KOffice 1.1 in that case. How do I do that? I vaguely remember something about a command line to apt-get that will point a package/package mask to a specific distro (stable/woody/testing/sid/...) but I didn't see anything in 'man apt-get'
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I'm really a big fan of the New KOffice (the full release, not the beta). It's got a great set of features, including handling *.doc files--which was one of the biggest barriers to migrating completely to Linux). Spellchecking seems fine. Basically, it was a damned good word processor. Plus it won the best word processor award from one of the Linux magazines recently (sorry, my back issues are in a box, and I can't check them for more info right now). Having said that, I did have a few problems getting it to work. When I first tried it on debian (loading the unstable packages into a woody distribution) I got a sigfault about halfway into the second page. I think that was because I'd screwed up the installation, though. When I upgraded everything to unstable, it worked fine. Unfortunately, I had to quickly pack my linux box away and ship it across the pacific. I'm still waiting for it to arrive (now using a borrowed, non-Linux computer), so I haven't been able to really stress test it. But, from what I saw, I liked the look and feel a lot better than AbiWord. KWord and AbiWord seem to be the top contenders, whith StarOffice a lagging third. I suggest you try them all out, and then make up your mind. -Rich- __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > On Wednesday 24 October 2001 20:54 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > > I'll ask you the same thing I asked of LaTeX. > > Any suggestions on "tutorial" sites to introduce me to this > > further? > > > > I'm very, very unfamiliar with what these are and would like a > > little help getting started. I am under the impression that > > these are a bit more powerful than 'notepad.exe'... > > I'm no expert on LaTex. It is a very powerful way to typeset > complex documents. It can produce professional quality output as > good as any printing house. I think it is not for the casual user. > > Lyx is a WYSIWYM* front end to LaTex. You don't have to know > anything about LaTex to use it. At least, you have to know a little bit of the Latex philosophy, to understand why Lyx does the things the way it does. Specialy if you come from an WYSIWYG Processor, you will be surprised of some things and may not value them as strength of the Latex approach. Latex rules, specialy for laaarge documents. Hendrik PS. StarOffice in most points is as good as MSOffice, in some is even better (stability). And yes its FREE. - -- PGP ID 21F0AC0265C92061 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72DL/IfCsAmXJIGERAqkCAJ0RLUPuTYy/N4rUWrlcru9JHcWCfQCeM6oW xaCd4G9zZ/1hD9AEep13UOU= =+7Ni -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 25 October 2001 14:38, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Check out the new openoffice packages: > > http://people.debian.org/~nidd/debian/unstable/ FYI, these packages are horrible. I just tried them. You can't even run the binaries. - -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72Bn1fAeuFodNU5wRAta6AJ9fruRoUNbjtk/bv6PEXEPxZcJ9QwCfTpyL bdgwjtLXqgVa6QnawHYPSKY= =2WDT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Check out the new openoffice packages: http://people.debian.org/~nidd/debian/unstable/ - -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71/nBfAeuFodNU5wRAoMUAJ0XbOfdOFcIjrTMmE5otui3ZRpVKwCgiqpK QowMdK/skQ8snQ/6LRt9v8k= =8Flh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Tom Allison wrote: > Current: > Under the Woody/Testing version of Debian I have Kword 1.1 (pre-beta2) > on KDE 2.1.2. You should most definitely upgrade to KDE 2.2.1 and KOffice 1.1 in that case. > I'm looking for experiences with Kword and it's ability to perform on > large papers. Feature-wise, I have never managed to migrate past what I've used KWord to write short papers (a few pages, with embedded objects). Towards the end of this year, I'm planning to use KWord for some very substantial documents of 20+ pages. > Also -- Spelling? Is it reasonably mature? I heard some bad things Kword uses ispell, and the dictionairy also produces sensbile suggestions for me. There is no thesauraus, or grammar checker yet though. > about Star Office so I won't introduce her to that one. I have used Star Office 5.2 for substantial documents (30+ pages) in the past, including colours, fonts, tables, etc. It worked OK, as long as its may eccentricities and idiosyncracies don't bother you massively. -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org
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Tom Allison wrote: This question may offend some, but I just have to ask it. Objective: Simply put: I want to know if Koffice/Kde/Debian (testing only) is going to be a presentable enough that I might offer it up to her again. Experiences? I want to thank everyone for all their great replies. While expecting some comments on pro/con of KWord, I was met with a pretty universal (and very non-fanatical) response suggesting lyx. I took a look at it last night and found it to be very promising as a tool for myself. For my wife, I will either try Star Office or Lyx. But I have to learn more about Lyx before I introduce it to her.
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On Wednesday 24 October 2001 20:54 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > I'll ask you the same thing I asked of LaTeX. > Any suggestions on "tutorial" sites to introduce me to this further? > > I'm very, very unfamiliar with what these are and would like a little > help getting started. I am under the impression that these are a bit > more powerful than 'notepad.exe'... I'm no expert on LaTex. It is a very powerful way to typeset complex documents. It can produce professional quality output as good as any printing house. I think it is not for the casual user. Lyx is a WYSIWYM* front end to LaTex. You don't have to know anything about LaTex to use it. You just write your document and what you see is very close to what the final printed output will look like. LaTex, and by extension Lyx and Klyx, knows about document structure. You work in terms of paragraphs, sections, subsections, chapters, etc. You don't have to worry about headings, fonts, section numbers, etc. It handles complex math formulas better than Star Office and I think better that M$Word. It handles footnotes, endnotes, and references in an intelligent way. After having written a few research papers in Klyx, trying to work in Star Office felt like a step backwards. I haven't worked in M$Word much, but I imagine it would feel the same. Lyx uses the XForms widget set. It's not bad but it's not KDE. Klyx is Lyx ported to KDE. It looks and feels like any other KDE program. I like it very much. Unfortunately, I read recently that it is no longer supported. In fact the version that is available for Debian is a KDE 1 program. If you install it, it will require a couple of KDE 1 packages to support it. However, I have it installed on my woody system and it seems to play nice. An excellent set of documentation comes with both the Lyx and Klyx packages including a Tutorial, a User's Guide, and a Reference Manual. They are in the form of lyx files, so you can read them while you're working or print out a set of professional looking manuals. * What You See Is What You Mean -- not quite WYSIWYG, but close. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
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> Daniel Robert Franklin wrote:
>
>
> > I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate
> > compared to LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable
> > option for you :)
> >
> > - Daniel
> >
> >
> I don't think my wife would be interested in it. Though I have wondered
> about it myself from time to time. Any "tutorial" sites that you are
> aware of?
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Well there's this one: http://ieee.uow.edu.au/documents/LaTeX/LaTeX
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The best way to learn it is by example, of course. Plus there's LyX/KLyx
(semi-WYSIWYG LaTeX editor) and TeXmacs (similar), which are useful while
you're learning it.
- Daniel
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Re: Kwork/Koffice
On Wednesday 24 October 2001 17:04, Daniel Robert Franklin wrote: > > This question may offend some, but I just have to ask it. > > > > Background: > > While advocating the virtues of Linux to my wife, I convinced her to > > start her term paper on AbiWord (about 2 years ago). By the third page > > of her paper, everything crashed in AbiWord and it was simply incapable > > of typing more than 2-3 characters without some serious display problems. > > Hardly surprising - 2 years ago AbiWord was pretty immature. It's a lot > better now... > > > I'm looking for experiences with Kword and it's ability to perform on > > large papers. Feature-wise, I have never managed to migrate past what > > Word 4.0 offered, so I'm not looking for much. Actually nothing more > > than what HTML offers would be fine as far as page layout. > > What's really important is the integrity and stability of the > > application and it's ability to handle large documents. > > Also -- Spelling? Is it reasonably mature? I heard some bad things > > about Star Office so I won't introduce her to that one. > > My experience of KOffice is that it's not too bad - KPresenter in > particular is excellent - but StarOffice is significantly better for word > processing. I have not managed to get StarOffice 6.0-beta or OpenOffice > working under Debian (segfaults during the install) but 5.2 works quite > well. It's ugly but at least it seems to by WYSIWYG. Current AbiWord is > probably also a better bet than KWord. KWord doesn't seem to be WYSIWYG yet > (which apparently is a feature of Office that users like). I believe this > is an objective for the next release of KOffice. > > I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate compared to > LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable option for you :) > > - Daniel Greetings Tom: I feel helpless to fend off the urge to ignore this request. I just happened to of discovered Abiword for Woody. I really like the feel and the looks, but it is quite old, compared to Sid's .9x. I would suggest to you to do an "apt-get install abiword" and see what *you* think as well as your blushing bride. I didn't like the fact that it didn't want to save as a M$Word ".doc" format, but I may have simply missed it. It has a great GUI IMO and simply felt good. I haven't played with the koffice suit since it's pre-alpha days when Ivan gave it to us for Potato. I may install it now that I have Woody running. StarOffice 6.0 really took me by surprise. It's still big, fat and plenty of fluff, but it is also graphically beautiful and instantly gave me the impression of "wow, this is really professional!". I don't know if I am ready to like the license, or not. It is also supporting and pushing for further support of open format standards with the .XML etc. I feel it both worthy and a first to go toe-to-toe with M$muck's Word/Excel products. Don't get too excited about starting it fast. On my 450pIII/384MB, it takes Star 5.2 16 seconds from Icon click to working GUI. It took BTW 6-12 seconds from Icon click to working GUI with Star Beta6. Both Star and Abiword function on this Woody box without crashing, even under extreme duress. I would also hope that both Koffice and Abiword will add full support for the Star XML format. This would make it very possible to offer real open standards for all the workerbees who have to exchange documents from platform to platform. Go for all of them and enjoy the experience. They all rock, and they are all growing up so fast :) -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
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Bud Rogers wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2001 19:04 pm, Daniel Robert Franklin wrote: I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate compared to LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable option for you :) I don't have enough experience with Abiword or Kword to have an opinion, but I thought about suggesting Lyx or Klyx. I have used both to produce research papers for grad school. Last semester I had to resort to Star Office because the professor required submissions in doc format. SO was adequate for the job, but it took a lot more work to produce an acceptable paper and it still didn't look as good as anything I did in either of the Lyxes. But, as you say, that's not what the OP asked for... I'll ask you the same thing I asked of LaTeX. Any suggestions on "tutorial" sites to introduce me to this further? I'm very, very unfamiliar with what these are and would like a little help getting started. I am under the impression that these are a bit more powerful than 'notepad.exe'... Or is this just a matter of "fear of the unknown"?
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Daniel Robert Franklin wrote: > I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate > compared to LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable > option for you :) > > - Daniel > > I don't think my wife would be interested in it. Though I have wondered about it myself from time to time. Any "tutorial" sites that you are aware of?
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On Wednesday 24 October 2001 19:04 pm, Daniel Robert Franklin wrote: > I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate compared to > LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable option for you :) I don't have enough experience with Abiword or Kword to have an opinion, but I thought about suggesting Lyx or Klyx. I have used both to produce research papers for grad school. Last semester I had to resort to Star Office because the professor required submissions in doc format. SO was adequate for the job, but it took a lot more work to produce an acceptable paper and it still didn't look as good as anything I did in either of the Lyxes. But, as you say, that's not what the OP asked for... -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
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> This question may offend some, but I just have to ask it. > > Background: > While advocating the virtues of Linux to my wife, I convinced her to > start her term paper on AbiWord (about 2 years ago). By the third page > of her paper, everything crashed in AbiWord and it was simply incapable > of typing more than 2-3 characters without some serious display problems. > Hardly surprising - 2 years ago AbiWord was pretty immature. It's a lot better now... > I'm looking for experiences with Kword and it's ability to perform on > large papers. Feature-wise, I have never managed to migrate past what > Word 4.0 offered, so I'm not looking for much. Actually nothing more > than what HTML offers would be fine as far as page layout. > What's really important is the integrity and stability of the > application and it's ability to handle large documents. > Also -- Spelling? Is it reasonably mature? I heard some bad things > about Star Office so I won't introduce her to that one. My experience of KOffice is that it's not too bad - KPresenter in particular is excellent - but StarOffice is significantly better for word processing. I have not managed to get StarOffice 6.0-beta or OpenOffice working under Debian (segfaults during the install) but 5.2 works quite well. It's ugly but at least it seems to by WYSIWYG. Current AbiWord is probably also a better bet than KWord. KWord doesn't seem to be WYSIWYG yet (which apparently is a feature of Office that users like). I believe this is an objective for the next release of KOffice. I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate compared to LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable option for you :) - Daniel -- ** * Daniel Franklin - Postgraduate student in Electrical Engineering * University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia * [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
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This question may offend some, but I just have to ask it. Background: While advocating the virtues of Linux to my wife, I convinced her to start her term paper on AbiWord (about 2 years ago). By the third page of her paper, everything crashed in AbiWord and it was simply incapable of typing more than 2-3 characters without some serious display problems. Needless to say, Linux to a serious beating that day as I was hastily installing a complete Windows / Office installation on one of my other Linux boxes. I didn't even bother with a dual boot option. I was in a hurry, OK? Current: Under the Woody/Testing version of Debian I have Kword 1.1 (pre-beta2) on KDE 2.1.2. Objective: Simply put: I want to know if Koffice/Kde/Debian (testing only) is going to be a presentable enough that I might offer it up to her again. I'm looking for experiences with Kword and it's ability to perform on large papers. Feature-wise, I have never managed to migrate past what Word 4.0 offered, so I'm not looking for much. Actually nothing more than what HTML offers would be fine as far as page layout. What's really important is the integrity and stability of the application and it's ability to handle large documents. Also -- Spelling? Is it reasonably mature? I heard some bad things about Star Office so I won't introduce her to that one. Experiences?
