Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-10 Thread Chris Boyle
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 04:53, Chris Cheney wrote:
 arts and kdelibs are now compiled for all the arches they are likely to
 get compiled for in the near future. So if you want you can upload the
 new xmmsarts version now.

Done (version 0.4-24), this morning (about 4 hours ago). WorksForMe. :-)

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Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Freitag, 7. Februar 2003 18:51 schrieb Svein Ove Aas:
 The driver for your soundcard is single-open, and can therefore only be
 used by one program at a time. Either tell xmms and mplayer to use arts for
 sound output, start them via artsdsp or install a better driver.

I would not recommend using aRts with mplayer. Mplayer is written for 
synchronization and aRts messes it all up: it just has a too big delay and 
the buffer simply rips control from mplayer. No good idea at all.
Arts would make sense when startet like a normal daemon (startup script) as 
root with realtime, no buffer and a device file or something equivalent to 
access it (no need to program _for_ it).

The problem with linux is that there is absolutely no standard way to do this. 
Alsa in 2.6 will make the situation better but the mixer daemon (and nothing 
else aRts is good for) is neither standard (aRts, esd, nas,...) nor does it 
even has a standard API.

 AFAIK, all Alsa-drivers do mixing in the kernel.

Alsa does no mixing at all except the cases where the hardware itself support 
multiple channels.

HS

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Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-08 Thread Brian Nelson
Chris Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 m68k - really slow will have kde compiled probably in march or april

Just curious, but is anyone actually insane enough to run KDE on m68k?

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Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-07 Thread cwhmlist
Hello everyone,

I am having some sound problems with kde 3.1.  When I try to play some mp3's 
using xmms, xmms complains that it couldn't open the audio.  Also, when I try 
to play movies (dvd or divx) using mplayer, I also get no sound.  However 
kaboodle will play the same divx movies find with sound.

Would someone please let me know what I need to change in kde to allow these 
programs to have sound.

Thanks,

Chris




Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-07 Thread Peter Clark
On Friday 07 February 2003 10:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am having some sound problems with kde 3.1.  When I try to play some
 mp3's using xmms, xmms complains that it couldn't open the audio.  Also,
 when I try to play movies (dvd or divx) using mplayer, I also get no sound.
  However kaboodle will play the same divx movies find with sound.

 Would someone please let me know what I need to change in kde to allow
 these programs to have sound.

You don't _necessarily_ need to change anything in KDE; the problem is 
that 
KDE's sound server, arts, is hogging /dev/dsp. Solution 1: for XMMS, use the 
xmms-arts plugin available at http://www.xmms.org/plugins_output.html; to 
enable it, go to Preferences - Audio I/O Plugins and for the Output Plugin 
select aRts Driver once you have installed it. For mplayer, in 
~/.mplayer/config, write '-ao arts'. Note that I think you may need to 
specifically mplayer for arts support, but it's been a while since I've 
compiled mplayer.
Solution 2: if that sounds like too much work, go to Control Panel - 
Sound 
- Sound System and change the value for Autosuspend if idle for: value to 
something smaller, like 10 seconds. Note that the problem with this solution 
is that any KDE sound event will be stalled until after XMMS or mplayer 
quits. So if you're listening to some music but have set up KMail to beep 
whenever you have new mail, you won't get any notification until you close 
XMMS. In my opinion it's better to make XMMS and mplayer play nice with arts, 
rather than the other way around.
:Peter

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Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-07 Thread Maximilian Reiss
On Friday 07 February 2003 17:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I am having some sound problems with kde 3.1.  When I try to play some
 mp3's using xmms, xmms complains that it couldn't open the audio.  Also,
 when I try to play movies (dvd or divx) using mplayer, I also get no sound.
  However kaboodle will play the same divx movies find with sound.

 Would someone please let me know what I need to change in kde to allow
 these programs to have sound.

you have a non full duplex soundcard and have arts running. Either stick to 
KDE multimedia apps, deactivate arts and only use nonKDE multimedia apps or 
try to give the other apps arts plugns.

max




Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-07 Thread Chris Boyle
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 16:28, Peter Clark wrote:
 xmms-arts plugin available at http://www.xmms.org/plugins_output.html; to 
 enable it, go to Preferences - Audio I/O Plugins and for the Output Plugin 
 select aRts Driver once you have installed it. For mplayer, in 

Also available packaged by me, though the version in unstable is for
KDE2, at least until the KDE3 grand master plan is sorted out and I've
picked a sensible time to upload... you can get a KDE3 version before
then from http://people.debian.org/~cmb/xmmsarts/

Hope this helps,
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Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-07 Thread Svein Ove Aas
fre, 2003-02-07 kl. 17:06 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I am having some sound problems with kde 3.1.  When I try to play some mp3's 
 using xmms, xmms complains that it couldn't open the audio.  Also, when I try 
 to play movies (dvd or divx) using mplayer, I also get no sound.  However 
 kaboodle will play the same divx movies find with sound.
 
 Would someone please let me know what I need to change in kde to allow these 
 programs to have sound.

The driver for your soundcard is single-open, and can therefore only be used by 
one program at a time.
Either tell xmms and mplayer to use arts for sound output, start them via 
artsdsp or install a better
driver.

AFAIK, all Alsa-drivers do mixing in the kernel.




Re: Need help with sound in 3.1

2003-02-07 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 06:51:45PM +0100, Svein Ove Aas wrote:
 The driver for your soundcard is single-open, and can therefore only
 be used by one program at a time. Either tell xmms and mplayer to use
 arts for sound output, start them via artsdsp or install a better
 driver.
 
 AFAIK, all Alsa-drivers do mixing in the kernel.

Nope, ALSA drivers don't do mixing in the kernel at least as far as I
know. I just tested my sound card (C-Media 8738) which seems to only
support single-open in ALSA as well. :\

Also, I am pretty sure full duplex doesn't have anything to do with this
problem, but I may be wrong.

Chris