Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 duorastat, oÄÄajagemÃnu 23. b. 2003 01.39, Marc Schiffbauer don ÄÃllet: > * Frank Mehnert schrieb am 22.01.03 um 17:46 Uhr: > Content-Description: signed data > > But it does not work for me :-( > It seems to me that the .xsession file is not being used here... > > -Marc I have been bitten by this one, too. (My .xsession file wasn't used). I seem to remember I had to choose "default" session in kdm, the other ones (kde3, blackbox, etc) uses the system Xsession. BÃrre Gaup, Kiruna, Sweden -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+L7mkAvz3WeWvzrERAirGAKCy4PHmSTSHhZ0ED0Eqj0LhXMjlMQCgjyWL H0FNfjiGXcRlr4+scMj3zmM= =6FRD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Damn. Alsa preferred, arts not. Sorry, just got back from the > hospital after having my fourth child. Well, *I* didn't have him, my > wife did, but whatever. My brain has yet to re-engage :-) Congratulations! - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mario J. Barchéin Molina. Granada (Spain) mario AT/EN judas.2y.net - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+L1lV1Cm7FLLA0lcRAsjkAKCKXZYLbv6hWB4+Wntjc/A+V40rHQCeJAaT f2KVLm0Zz0xe9aj/z4NNeuM= =S9sW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 01:33:49AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 01:09, David Bishop wrote: > > > me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts > > > support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance > > > reasons, please speak up :-) > > > > Consider this me speaking up :-) Alsa is highly discouraged by the > > rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues. > > I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill > > artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to > > make it worth it. > > What now ? Alsa or arts preferred ? I didn't get it because of your typos :-) > > Ralf Damn. Alsa preferred, arts not. Sorry, just got back from the hospital after having my fourth child. Well, *I* didn't have him, my wife did, but whatever. My brain has yet to re-engage :-) D.A.Bishop
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 01:09, David Bishop wrote: > > me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts > > support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance > > reasons, please speak up :-) > > Consider this me speaking up :-) Alsa is highly discouraged by the > rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues. > I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill > artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to > make it worth it. What now ? Alsa or arts preferred ? I didn't get it because of your typos :-) Ralf > > Thanks! > > D.A.Bishop - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Lzhtu0nKi+w1Ky8RAiCmAJ0eJ+CwIzV8i3E4fTEeVhdJN5Y5kQCfVngn CRQwShPdLRMrQ06rwVagKCo= =RXh7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
* Frank Mehnert schrieb am 22.01.03 um 17:46 Uhr: Content-Description: signed data > > This is correct here (exec $REALSTARTUP). I'm trying to make > > gpg-agent start on login but this seems more difficult than I > > thought. > > > > Putting an > > > > eval "$(gpg-agent --daemon)" > > > > into my ~/.xsession does not help. gpg-agent is not running after > > login. .xsession is executable. > Hi Frank! > 1. add > > allow-user-xsession in /etc/X11/Xsession.options > Ok. This has already been in there. > 2. modify your .xsession in the following manner: > > #!/bin/sh > killall gpg-agent > eval `/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon` > exec /usr/bin/kde3 > I created exactly the same file (chmod 755) > This should do the job. But it does not work for me :-( It seems to me that the .xsession file is not being used here... -Marc -- Microsoft's Director .Net Strategy & Developer Group: "Ein Umstieg auf Linux ist erst einmal mit hoeheren Kosten verbunden." CTO SuSE Linux AG: "Das ist, als wenn ich heroinsuechtig waere und sagen wuerde, die Entziehungskur ist mir zu Aufwaendig. Also lasse ich es bleiben." http://www.computerwoche.de/index.cfm?pageid=254&artid=41859&type=detail
Re: New packages & changes
> me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts support, > not alsa support - if you like it different for performance reasons, please > speak up :-) Consider this me speaking up :-) Alsa is highly discouraged by the rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues. I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to make it worth it. Thanks! D.A.Bishop
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 20:14, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:43:47AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > don't you think we could add those lines per default into the > > debian Xservers file for KDM and comment them out with hashes ? > > feel free to do so. i didn't make the feature official yet, as it is not > really ready (joe user does not like alt-ctrl-Fx ...). Ah, that's why SuSE uses it by default on 8.1 with KDE 3.0.x ? *grin* Ralf > > greetings > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! > -- > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LxH9u0nKi+w1Ky8RAnsPAJ0ZAr/OJlaSmbTgD9mknHi2vArEGwCdEFcH 7zDk1u2Du1pbpVn3qQ2siUs= =ArLy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 15:38, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > From the manpages: > > > > NAME > > ssh-add - adds RSA or DSA identities to the authentication agent > > [...] > > ENVIRONMENT > > DISPLAY and SSH_ASKPASS > > If ssh-add needs a passphrase, it will read the passphrase > > from the current terminal if it was run from a terminal. If ssh-add does > > not have a terminal associated with it but DISPLAY and SSH_ASKPASS are > > set, it will execute the program specified by SSH_ASKPASS and open an X11 > > window to read the passphrase. This is particularly useful when calling > > ssh-add from a .Xsession or related script. (Note that on some machines > > it may be necessary to redirect the input from /dev/null to make this > > work.) > > > > [...] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ apt-cache search ssh-askpass > ssh-askpass-gnome - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add > ssh-askpass - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add > > > gnome-ssh-askpass just ask for a the ssh passphrase and on 'okay' > > writes it to stdout + \n. On cancel nothing is writen. > > > > So setting SSH_ASPASS after ssh-agent is running and before (or at the > > top) /usr/bin/kde3 run ssh-add. This way keybased assccess with sftp, > > ssh session in rest > > Maybe a > > $ cat > kde-ssh-askpass > #!/bin/sh > exec kdialog --password 'give me the mantra' > ^D > > as another (/etc/)alternative for ssh-askpass would also. > > There's only a suble difference: On cancel gnome version > return '' + retcode 0, kdialog returns "\n" and retcode 1. Chris, can you add this and fix your conflicts in arts, kdebase, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia please ? Thanks, Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LxEEu0nKi+w1Ky8RAl5fAJ9ZWKI2Nfol8931tzWOkzQL0RXy8gCfXkVq z+A6xMHYcWsSns4hyn86oGI= =H1Rn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:43:47AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > > You could also use /etc/X11/X though, > > > > hmm, is this really the suggested way of invoking an x server? > > this is a helper link of the debian config system, which i thought > > is not supposed to be used directly. time to read the policy, i guess > > s -l /etc/X11/X > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 7 21:44 /etc/X11/X -> > /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 > i know. i have the same. ;) anyway, that does not mean anything. afaik, /usr/bin/X11/X is the offcial "entry point". this wrapper program then uses (or does not use) the symlink depending on the way it was configured with debconf. > don't you think we could add those lines per default into the > debian Xservers file for KDM and comment them out with hashes ? > feel free to do so. i didn't make the feature official yet, as it is not really ready (joe user does not like alt-ctrl-Fx ...). greetings -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
Re: New packages & changes
> This is correct here (exec $REALSTARTUP). I'm trying to make > gpg-agent start on login but this seems more difficult than I > thought. > > Putting an > > eval "$(gpg-agent --daemon)" > > into my ~/.xsession does not help. gpg-agent is not running after > login. .xsession is executable. 1. add allow-user-xsession in /etc/X11/Xsession.options 2. modify your .xsession in the following manner: #!/bin/sh killall gpg-agent eval `/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon` exec /usr/bin/kde3 This should do the job. Frank -- ## Dept. of Computer Science, Dresden University of Technology, Germany ## ## E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/~fm3 ## pgpiWw0wMyqwK.pgp Description: signature
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 15:49, Benoit Mortier wrote: > Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 22:24, Ralf Nolden a écrit : > > Hi, > > hello, > > first thanks for all that work.. > > > NB: if you have any other Qt/KDE 3 package that isn't included in > > i386/applications yet which you think is useful and would like to have a > > package for, please notify me. > > cdbakeoven should be there > qtinsane (scanner interface for sane, beautiful and full of options) have to have a look at that. > kio-fish included in KDE now, see kioslaves etc. packages. > kjewel Have to have a look at that, too. Please be so kind and provide download URL's :-) Ralf > > Thanks - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LrIIu0nKi+w1Ky8RApQZAJ9pxptK/2OVXNppf+tr4nk1d9J8NQCglXwU Jabt77Q7c6hBK/sADGV43JQ= =/RPV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 22:24, Ralf Nolden a écrit : > Hi, hello, first thanks for all that work.. > NB: if you have any other Qt/KDE 3 package that isn't included in > i386/applications yet which you think is useful and would like to have a > package for, please notify me. cdbakeoven qtinsane (scanner interface for sane, beautiful and full of options) kio-fish kjewel Thanks -- Opensides sprl Benoit Mortier - Linux Engineer
Re: New packages & changes
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 13:28, you wrote: > On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:48, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:53, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > > > add lines like these: > > > > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > > > > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > > > > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > > > > > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > > > > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > > > > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > > > > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > > > > > > ^ should be :1 :2 :3 > > > not :1 :1 :1 > > > > > > Maybe a note would not bad that multiple X servers need N times the > > > graphic memory (something like N * 4 * Xres * Yres * (32bpp / 8) bytes > > > with dri AFAIR) Depending on the screen size 64 MB are nothing ;) > > > > That means, if you have an AGP aperture size of 32 mb it will take another > > 32 > > mb also for AGP cards ? Or is that only limited to this calculation ? > > Sorry I don't understand what you mean. Here's my case maybe this help. > worked on :0 and with DIR enabled. I once setup a second display :1 on the > same Radeon APG card to login into an test account. I wondered why it > was much slower. Checking /var/log/Xfree.1.log told me not enough memory > for DRI. > > > > > > > Just another topic for your README file is how to start > > > ssh-askpass-gnome > > > on session login. AFAIR I've lost this when I purge 2.2.2 for 3.0 > > > update. > > > Maybe someone has a good idea how to integrate this into kdm the debian > > > way. > > I never used 2.2.2 on woody so I don't know what's the specifics there and > > what ssh-askpass-gnome is. Could you come up with more details and an > > explanation what ssh-askpass-gnome is ? > > From the manpages: > > NAME > ssh-add - adds RSA or DSA identities to the authentication agent > [...] > ENVIRONMENT > DISPLAY and SSH_ASKPASS > If ssh-add needs a passphrase, it will read the passphrase from > the current terminal if it was run from a terminal. If ssh-add > does not have a terminal associated with it but DISPLAY and > SSH_ASKPASS are set, it will execute the program specified by > SSH_ASKPASS and open an X11 window to read the passphrase. This > is particularly useful when calling ssh-add from a .Xsession or > related script. (Note that on some machines it may be necessary > to redirect the input from /dev/null to make this work.) > > [...] > [EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ apt-cache search ssh-askpass ssh-askpass-gnome - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add ssh-askpass - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add > gnome-ssh-askpass just ask for a the ssh passphrase and on 'okay' > writes it to stdout + \n. On cancel nothing is writen. > > So setting SSH_ASPASS after ssh-agent is running and before (or at the top) > /usr/bin/kde3 run ssh-add. This way keybased assccess with sftp, ssh > session > in rest Maybe a $ cat > kde-ssh-askpass #!/bin/sh exec kdialog --password 'give me the mantra' ^D as another (/etc/)alternative for ssh-askpass would also. There's only a suble difference: On cancel gnome version return '' + retcode 0, kdialog returns "\n" and retcode 1. Achim > > > > Ralf > > > > > > Achim > > > > > > > the reserve is the point :-) You could also use /etc/X11/X though, I > > > > just > > > > did a copy& paste from somewhere else :-) > > > > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > > > - -- > > > > We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. > > > > - > > > > Ralf Nolden > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project > > > > http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org > > -- > To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is > a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. > You discover truth everytime you use it. > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New packages & changes
* Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:51 Uhr: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:12, Tom Badran wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 11:33 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > > As a side notice: gpg-agent doesn't exit when you leave your X session. > > > To kill it, place a script chmod 755 into ~/.kde/shutdown (I should make > > > a note to that trick, too on my README). > > > > I was just using: > > > > killall gpg-agent > > eval `gpg-agent --daemon` > > > > .. to start gpg-agent and make sure its 'fresh' ;). I couldnt get my > > .xsession to do anything so i just put that in /usr/bin/startkde after the > > ksplash line. > > On the matter of ~/.xsession - If you have a look into > > cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start > > does it say: > > exec $REALSTARTUP > > or > > exec "$REALSTARTUP" > > ? The latter is wrong but appeared in some versions of XFree shipped with > debian AFAIK, but I only have the first one which should work (which is XFree > 4.2.1). If that works for you to change this, I'd add that to the README too. > This is correct here (exec $REALSTARTUP). I'm trying to make gpg-agent start on login but this seems more difficult than I thought. Putting an eval "$(gpg-agent --daemon)" into my ~/.xsession does not help. gpg-agent is not running after login. .xsession is executable. Then I tried to put a small Script into ~/.kde/Autostart. Now gpg-agent is running after login, but KDE knows nothing about the GPG_AGENT_INFO variable (tested with Alt-F2 --> env > /tmp/env.log) Any hints on how to make that work? -Marc -- --- Take back the Net! http://www.anti-dmca.org ---
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 10:49, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > * Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:43 Uhr: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > > > BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, > > > > change > > > > > > > > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers > > > > > > > > add lines like these: > > > > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > > > > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > > > > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > > > > > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > > > > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > > > > : > > > > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > > > > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > > > > > >^ > > > it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;) > > > > Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with > > 1 session :-) > > Hi Ralf, > > I added those line to the file. But how can I test it? What is the > difference now? > And waht exactly does the "reserve" do? It sets a display on reserve without opening it, i.e. it opens it on demand. To use the feature, you need to lock your screen. Then you will see a new button right from the password input to unlock the screen which says "Start new session". Click on that button and it will open a new KDM login on the first reserved vt, i.e. on vt8. You can then log in as a different user (which is extremely useful in families if you don't want to close your session just because your wife bugs you because she wants to play kpat or check her mail, also for your kids). To switch between the screens use Alt+Ctrl+F7 / F8 / F9 etc. Ralf > > > -Marc > -- > BUGS My programs never have bugs. They just develop random > features. If you discover such a feature and you want it to > be removed: please send an email to bug at links2linux.de - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LnJHu0nKi+w1Ky8RAqDaAJwPb4dXVr9n34GmITPUbmLWh7AvsACdFOJF 3SZnuDdFojv4GimvRZopO1I= =9gsp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:49, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > * Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:43 Uhr: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > > > BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change > > > > > > > > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers > > > > > > > > add lines like these: > > > > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > > > > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > > > > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > > > > > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > > > > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > > > > : > > > > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > > > > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > > > > > >^ > > > it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;) > > > > Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with 1 > > session :-) > > > > Hi Ralf, > > I added those line to the file. But how can I test it? What is the > difference now? > And waht exactly does the "reserve" do? I can only report what I've seen: Without reserve all the X server would be started when kdm starts. With reserve they are started on request when you use in the K-menu 'Start New Session' (above 'logout ""' and 'lock screen'). It also looks like that the additional xserver is kill after some timeout when no one is logging in or when one logs out from these additional screens. Achim > > > -Marc > -- > BUGS My programs never have bugs. They just develop random > features. If you discover such a feature and you want it to > be removed: please send an email to bug at links2linux.de > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New packages & changes
* Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:43 Uhr: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > > BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change > > > > > > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers > > > > > > add lines like these: > > > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > > > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > > > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > > > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > > > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > > > : > > > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > > > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > > > >^ > > it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;) > > Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with 1 > session :-) > Hi Ralf, I added those line to the file. But how can I test it? What is the difference now? And waht exactly does the "reserve" do? -Marc -- BUGS My programs never have bugs. They just develop random features. If you discover such a feature and you want it to be removed: please send an email to bug at links2linux.de
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:12, Tom Badran wrote: > On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 11:33 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > As a side notice: gpg-agent doesn't exit when you leave your X session. > > To kill it, place a script chmod 755 into ~/.kde/shutdown (I should make > > a note to that trick, too on my README). > > I was just using: > > killall gpg-agent > eval `gpg-agent --daemon` > > .. to start gpg-agent and make sure its 'fresh' ;). I couldnt get my > .xsession to do anything so i just put that in /usr/bin/startkde after the > ksplash line. On the matter of ~/.xsession - If you have a look into cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start does it say: exec $REALSTARTUP or exec "$REALSTARTUP" ? The latter is wrong but appeared in some versions of XFree shipped with debian AFAIK, but I only have the first one which should work (which is XFree 4.2.1). If that works for you to change this, I'd add that to the README too. Ralf > > Tom - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Lj9ru0nKi+w1Ky8RAnGaAJ9jKR44tQunuPFRgaA5sAcLOkZ0SwCePmLH 6Uko+NG9mK6DdXl38FBk0q8= =7fYx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:53, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > add lines like these: > > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > > ^ should be :1 :2 :3 > not :1 :1 :1 > > Maybe a note would not bad that multiple X servers need N times the > graphic memory (something like N * 4 * Xres * Yres * (32bpp / 8) bytes > with dri AFAIR) Depending on the screen size 64 MB are nothing ;) That means, if you have an AGP aperture size of 32 mb it will take another 32 mb also for AGP cards ? Or is that only limited to this calculation ? > > Just another topic for your README file is how to start ssh-askpass-gnome > on session login. AFAIR I've lost this when I purge 2.2.2 for 3.0 update. > Maybe someone has a good idea how to integrate this into kdm the debian > way. I never used 2.2.2 on woody so I don't know what's the specifics there and what ssh-askpass-gnome is. Could you come up with more details and an explanation what ssh-askpass-gnome is ? Ralf > > Achim > > > the reserve is the point :-) You could also use /etc/X11/X though, I just > > did a copy& paste from somewhere else :-) > > > > Ralf > > > > - -- > > We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. > > - > > Ralf Nolden > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project > > http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+LdjIu0nKi+w1Ky8RAjQLAKCncB7r0jbvZUxkMEBDi5YbL+0qGACffLZz > > yNez5Jj9sBmlAdhy5nbsE34= > > =HdiT > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Lj6qu0nKi+w1Ky8RAkFnAKCgndrnGHiReMAW0Of4KWzY3c8udACgpbfv rfvBaHuXRSDxCBoYBCYYFFk= =BByg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change > > > > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers > > > > add lines like these: > > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > > > > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > > : > > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > >^ > it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;) Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with 1 session :-) > > > the reserve is the point :-) > > > > You could also use /etc/X11/X though, > > hmm, is this really the suggested way of invoking an x server? > this is a helper link of the debian config system, which i thought > is not supposed to be used directly. time to read the policy, i guess s -l /etc/X11/X lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 7 21:44 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 mind that I use XFree 4.2.1 on my laptop, I hope this is working reliable then, ossi - don't you think we could add those lines per default into the debian Xservers file for KDM and comment them out with hashes ? Ralf > ... > > greetings > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! > -- > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Lj2ju0nKi+w1Ky8RAq/rAJ9gHWQdyXQDI4kFZvlMb1TkP5DiQgCbBT+x WufwWXBM4DZfZl6i3P0M4SE= =M3J3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change > > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers > > add lines like these: > # Examples for multiple local X displays: > # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 > # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 > :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 > :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 > :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 > :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 > ^ it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;) > the reserve is the point :-) > You could also use /etc/X11/X though, > hmm, is this really the suggested way of invoking an x server? this is a helper link of the debian config system, which i thought is not supposed to be used directly. time to read the policy, i guess ... greetings -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
Re: New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 00:14, Tom Badran wrote: > On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 9:24 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > 1. pinentry updated - pinentry-qt had a problem with setting the DISPLAY > > variable, Steffen Hansen sent us a patch that I merged in. The > > .orig.tar.gz from the sources is the same, the diff.gz contains the patch > > as a separate diff file and has, after retrieving and applying the > > diff.gz with apt-get source, the patch applied. Please test pinentry-qt > > if that works now for you. > > Just moved from pinentry-gtk to pinenty-qt, and assuming this mail comes > though like my others to this list all is working fine. > > Tom Yepp, seems to work fine :-) As a side notice: gpg-agent doesn't exit when you leave your X session. To kill it, place a script chmod 755 into ~/.kde/shutdown (I should make a note to that trick, too on my README). BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers add lines like these: # Examples for multiple local X displays: # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7 :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9 :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10 the reserve is the point :-) You could also use /etc/X11/X though, I just did a copy& paste from somewhere else :-) Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LdjIu0nKi+w1Ky8RAjQLAKCncB7r0jbvZUxkMEBDi5YbL+0qGACffLZz yNez5Jj9sBmlAdhy5nbsE34= =HdiT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New packages & changes
On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 9:24 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote: > 1. pinentry updated - pinentry-qt had a problem with setting the DISPLAY > variable, Steffen Hansen sent us a patch that I merged in. The .orig.tar.gz > from the sources is the same, the diff.gz contains the patch as a separate > diff file and has, after retrieving and applying the diff.gz with apt-get > source, the patch applied. Please test pinentry-qt if that works now for > you. Just moved from pinentry-gtk to pinenty-qt, and assuming this mail comes though like my others to this list all is working fine. Tom pgpmFID04w5k9.pgp Description: signature
New packages & changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've uploaded a new set of kde-i18n packages, new kdelibs package and some other utilities this week like guarddog and kbear, today someone on IRC asked me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance reasons, please speak up :-) There's three things that I changed in addition: 1. pinentry updated - pinentry-qt had a problem with setting the DISPLAY variable, Steffen Hansen sent us a patch that I merged in. The .orig.tar.gz from the sources is the same, the diff.gz contains the patch as a separate diff file and has, after retrieving and applying the diff.gz with apt-get source, the patch applied. Please test pinentry-qt if that works now for you. 2. I also added a ChangeLog lately that I try to keep up-to-date with what I add, so you can look for yourself if you see something interesting. 3. The last addition is a file md5sum.txt in kde/woody which has the md5sums of my i386 and source directories on my build machines. This may help to verify if your packages are the same ones as they are on my machine to ensure that you're on the safe side with the sources and the packages that you retrieve, especially regarding security issues and the aegypten crypto-packages. NB: if you have any other Qt/KDE 3 package that isn't included in i386/applications yet which you think is useful and would like to have a package for, please notify me. Thanks for listening, Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Lbpyu0nKi+w1Ky8RAsiJAJ9LW1YooL4B8fIUVEaRDqmG8X0ligCfYKMt 0b+h0YiLl7Eq1Q0PIfR5yjI= =0kf6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
