Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Friday 21 August 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 August 2015 17:38:52 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue. Is there a bug filed for that? No Gräßlin said he would look into it since he is also a Debian user. Martin, what was the issue with mouse cursors and packing? Best Regards `Allan
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On 19/08/15 11:38 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue. `Allan You're right, the drag capability seems to be there but because the cursors aren't changing, it's hard to get the drag point correct.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Friday, August 21, 2015 12:50:58 PM Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Friday 21 August 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 August 2015 17:38:52 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue. Is there a bug filed for that? No Gräßlin said he would look into it since he is also a Debian user. Martin, what was the issue with mouse cursors and packing? sorry didn't get to look into it yet after Akademy. The issue on Ubuntu was that there were default fallback themes not being setup correctly. Comparing the packages for Ubuntu and Debian I see the following difference: /etc/X11/cursors/Breeze_Snow.theme /etc/X11/cursors/breeze_cursors.theme Relevant changelog entry on Ubuntu: * Revise postinst and prerm for cursor themes. The themes now get inheritance configs created that we use for the default symlink which should make the default setup work as expected. -- Harald Sitter sit...@kde.org Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:59:09 +0200 Hope that helps, Cheers, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: On 19/08/15 11:38 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue. `Allan You're right, the drag capability seems to be there but because the cursors aren't changing, it's hard to get the drag point correct. Dark breeze cursors do not have this problem either. Facu
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Friday 21 August 2015 15:53:50 you wrote: [snip] Relevant changelog entry on Ubuntu: * Revise postinst and prerm for cursor themes. The themes now get inheritance configs created that we use for the default symlink which should make the default setup work as expected. Indeed it does. Thanks! Bug filled as #796411 https://bugs.debian.org/796411 -- Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Friday 21 August 2015 14:04:43 Martin Graesslin wrote: [snip] sorry didn't get to look into it yet after Akademy. The issue on Ubuntu was that there were default fallback themes not being setup correctly. Comparing the packages for Ubuntu and Debian I see the following difference: /etc/X11/cursors/Breeze_Snow.theme /etc/X11/cursors/breeze_cursors.theme Relevant changelog entry on Ubuntu: * Revise postinst and prerm for cursor themes. The themes now get inheritance configs created that we use for the default symlink which should make the default setup work as expected. Indeed it does. Thanks! -- Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue. `Allan
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue. `Allan
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Sunday 16 August 2015 14:03:47 Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary Are you unable to do that or is the mouse indicator absent or hardly visible indicating that you can resize the window? I had the latter problem and re-applying the theme/cursor-theme seemed to have fixed that. OTOH I also have various packages from unstable/experimental which may also have had an effect on it working again. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On 17/08/15 01:33 AM, Luc Castermans wrote: It is not lost. First you have to select the resize option in the menu you get right-clicking on the upper left window corner Luc I know I can still resize windows. However I can't do it directly now. Instead I have to choose to resize them before I can, rather than just resizing them directly. Interestingly Icedove still contains an area in the bottom right which I can drag to resize a window but Iceweasel (and most other applications) doesn't.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On 17/08/15 08:01 AM, Diederik de Haas wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2015 14:03:47 Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary Are you unable to do that or is the mouse indicator absent or hardly visible indicating that you can resize the window? I had the latter problem and re-applying the theme/cursor-theme seemed to have fixed that. OTOH I also have various packages from unstable/experimental which may also have had an effect on it working again. The mouse indicator is there but it doesn't work on most windows. I can still resize Icedove windows but have to jump through hoops to resize most windows (the alt+right-button trick or selecting resize from the top bar | more actions menu). According to some of the replies, this is feature and not a bug. :(
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Sunday, 2015-08-16, 14:03:47, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more like Gnome. I always found the edges hard to hit so I am using ALT + holding the right mouse button for resizing. That works basically anywhere between the center of a window and the edge/corner I want to move. Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 07:33:48AM CEST, Luc Castermans luc.casterm...@gmail.com said: It is not lost. First you have to select the resize option in the menu you get right-clicking on the upper left window corner Luc Why, oh why make those very frequent oprations more and more difficult to do ? Is the anti-user design so trendy ?
