Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
In 200904161610.57353@alaxarxa.net, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: I don't want to install kde3 and kde4 in the same box. However, I administrate several boxes and I would like to have some box with unstable (kde 4.2.2) and stable (kde 3.5.9) using the same /home for the users (ergo .kde) So, is this possible? Not really. But, this really shouldn't be much of an issue. Sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.4 and KDE 3.5 wasn't completely supported. Newer versions of the applications may have moved configuration options and while they will read the old versions they may write out the configuration incompatibly. In practice, sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.4 and KDE 3.5 only caused a few errors. In theory sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.2 will probably cause more. I suggest that you set KDE_HOME in your global environment on the different systems. Using ~/.kdemajor.minor, for example .kde3.5 and .kde4.2, should be sufficient. I think KDE_HOME is the only thing that needs to be set, but you might want to double-check me. I still have a .kde3.4 and a .kde3.5 (.kde is a symlink) from doing something similar for different reasons. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
On Thursday 16 April 2009 18:16:21 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 200904161610.57353@alaxarxa.net, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: I don't want to install kde3 and kde4 in the same box. However, I administrate several boxes and I would like to have some box with unstable (kde 4.2.2) and stable (kde 3.5.9) using the same /home for the users (ergo .kde) So, is this possible? Not really. But, this really shouldn't be much of an issue. Sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.4 and KDE 3.5 wasn't completely supported. Newer versions of the applications may have moved configuration options and while they will read the old versions they may write out the configuration incompatibly. In practice, sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.4 and KDE 3.5 only caused a few errors. In theory sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.2 will probably cause more. Or crash. I suggest that you set KDE_HOME in your global environment on the different systems. Using ~/.kdemajor.minor, for example .kde3.5 and .kde4.2, should be sufficient. I think KDE_HOME is the only thing that needs to be set, but you might want to double-check me. I am doing it this way. Might also need to set PATHs to favor the target KDE version as well. I still have a .kde3.4 and a .kde3.5 (.kde is a symlink) from doing something similar for different reasons. Name your poison. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
In 200904161822.03422.d_ba...@012.net.il, David Baron wrote: On Thursday 16 April 2009 18:16:21 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 200904161610.57353@alaxarxa.net, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: I administrate several boxes and I would like to have some box with unstable (kde 4.2.2) and stable (kde 3.5.9) using the same /home for the users (ergo .kde) So, is this possible? Not really. But, this really shouldn't be much of an issue. Sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.4 and KDE 3.5 wasn't completely supported. In practice, sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.4 and KDE 3.5 only caused a few errors. In theory sharing a .kde directory between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.2 will probably cause more. I suggest that you set KDE_HOME in your global environment on the different systems. Using ~/.kdemajor.minor, for example .kde3.5 and .kde4.2, should be sufficient. I think KDE_HOME is the only thing that needs to be set, but you might want to double-check me. I am doing it this way. Might also need to set PATHs to favor the target KDE version as well. That shouldn't be required unless a bin directory is also shared between systems. Users should be semi-responsible for anything in ~/bin (or other directories they are adding to their PATH). I still have a .kde3.4 and a .kde3.5 (.kde is a symlink) from doing something similar for different reasons. Name your poison. I'm not completely sure what it was, but I think it was back when I was running Gentoo and installing KDE 3.5 betas. It was something done automagically for me, IIRC. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
A Dijous 16 Abril 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. va escriure: In 200904161610.57353@alaxarxa.net, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: I don't want to install kde3 and kde4 in the same box. However, I administrate several boxes and I would like to have some box with unstable (kde 4.2.2) and stable (kde 3.5.9) using the same /home for the users (ergo .kde) So, is this possible? [...] I suggest that you set KDE_HOME in your global environment on the different systems. Using ~/.kdemajor.minor, for example .kde3.5 and .kde4.2, should be sufficient. I think KDE_HOME is the only thing that needs to be set, but you might want to double-check me. where do you set up this? I have done a : grep -R KDE_HOME /etc/* with no results. I still have a .kde3.4 and a .kde3.5 (.kde is a symlink) from doing something similar for different reasons. Ok. Thanks. Leo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
On Thursday 16 April 2009 19:07:16 Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: A Dijous 16 Abril 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. va escriure: In 200904161610.57353@alaxarxa.net, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: I don't want to install kde3 and kde4 in the same box. However, I administrate several boxes and I would like to have some box with unstable (kde 4.2.2) and stable (kde 3.5.9) using the same /home for the users (ergo .kde) So, is this possible? [...] I suggest that you set KDE_HOME in your global environment on the different systems. Using ~/.kdemajor.minor, for example .kde3.5 and .kde4.2, should be sufficient. I think KDE_HOME is the only thing that needs to be set, but you might want to double-check me. where do you set up this? I have done a : grep -R KDE_HOME /etc/* with no results. I have a locally compiled kde3 on /opt/kde3.5 and 4.2.2 on /usr installed from Sid. I changed the startkde script in /opt/kde/lde3.5/bin to reference $KDE_HOME as .~/.kde3, have /opt/kde3.5/bin ahead of /usr/bin and to set a global environment variable. in /etc/profiles, I test this variable. If it is set, I do the same thing there. Otherwize, $KDE_HOME is ~/.kde and /opt/kde3.5/bin in AFTER /usr/bin on the PATH. Similarly, I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH and some others as well in the 3.5 startkde and /etc/profile. With appropriate $KDE_HOME and PATHs, I have been running this way without a hitch for a while now. In your case, your kde3.5 stuff will be on another box but the idea is the same. I still have a .kde3.4 and a .kde3.5 (.kde is a symlink) from doing something similar for different reasons. Ok. Thanks. Leo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
El Jueves, 16 de Abril de 2009, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda escribió: where do you set up this? I have done a : grep -R KDE_HOME /etc/* with no results. Hi Leo. First, it's KDEHOME, not KDE_HOME (I don't know if the second works, but ceirtainly the first is the only one I have seen). It's not set in /etc because AFAIK the setting is done internally, in the code. Second, I'm not fully sure about the place in which can be set, but I suppose /etc/profile will do. Take a look at KDE's Techbase, there are nice pages about doing KDE system administration: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration Bye. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Coexistence betwend kde3 and kde4
A Dijous 16 Abril 2009, Alejandro Exojo va escriure: El Jueves, 16 de Abril de 2009, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda escribió: where do you set up this? I have done a : grep -R KDE_HOME /etc/* with no results. Hi Leo. Bones Alejandro ;-) First, it's KDEHOME, not KDE_HOME (I don't know if the second works, but ceirtainly the first is the only one I have seen). It's not set in /etc because AFAIK the setting is done internally, in the code. well, in Etch is in /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager in Lenny the same. Second, I'm not fully sure about the place in which can be set, but I suppose /etc/profile will do. Take a look at KDE's Techbase, there are nice pages about doing KDE system administration: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration Ok, thanks. I suppose that if I modify /etc/profile will be sufficient. Thanks to all for all the answers, Leo Bye. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
