Re: Cups+printer install?

2005-08-05 Thread Derek Broughton
Silvan wrote:

> On Thursday 04 August 2005 11:27 am, Derek Broughton wrote:

> 
> And while we're on this topic anyway, I've found that I *don't* actually
> like
> the KDE printer installer wizard flummy.  I can't quite remember specific
> details about what it couldn't do with it, but it was missing some
> critical
> piece to getting an HP inkjet to work on an Ubuntu system.  

I couldn't manage to talk to my Epson inkjet from Ubuntu, either - told me I
didn't have the authority to install a driver (even though it was running
under kdesu).
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Re: Cups+printer install?

2005-08-04 Thread Silvan
On Thursday 04 August 2005 11:27 am, Derek Broughton wrote:

>
> I have two problems with this thread: first, why did he post to debian-kde
> when he says he doesn't want to install X?; second, why are we giving him
> advice to use the KDE control center???

It looks like the original exchange happened on debian-user, and then someone 
said "you might want to ask debian-kde" and then tacked debian-kde on as a 
CC.

Either that or I'm missing posts.  My first message in this thread is a reply.

And while we're on this topic anyway, I've found that I *don't* actually like 
the KDE printer installer wizard flummy.  I can't quite remember specific 
details about what it couldn't do with it, but it was missing some critical 
piece to getting an HP inkjet to work on an Ubuntu system.  Ubuntu's CUPS web 
interface is hacked because they deem it too dangerous.  I didn't manage to 
get where I needed to be with either the KDE configurator or the suggested 
GNOME configurator, so I had to spend an afternoon de-hacking the CUPS thing 
so I could spend twelve and a half seconds configuring the bliffin' printer 
already.  That's why this is sticking in my memory.

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Re: Cups+printer install?

2005-08-04 Thread Derek Broughton
Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:

>>On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
>>
 Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
 a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

 I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
 the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.
>>>
> Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> 
>>Are you using KDE?  If so, I believe you can use the KDE Control Center
>>
> The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center activates a printer
> wizard.  I found it more
> intuitively easy to use than the http://localhost:631/ option in the
> browser.  

I have two problems with this thread: first, why did he post to debian-kde
when he says he doesn't want to install X?; second, why are we giving him
advice to use the KDE control center???

Ishwar;
this question has nothing to do with debian-kde - but you don't need X to
use a browser.  Use lynx or any other text browser.
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Re: Cups+printer install? (fwd)

2005-08-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 13:44:19 +0200
From: "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Cups+printer install?

On Thursday 04 August 2005 06:35, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
> >On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> >>> Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
> >>> a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?
> >>>
> >>> I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
> >>> the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.

so use links, or w3m, or some other text-browser to access 
http;//localhost:631, there isn't any need to install X-windows just to be 
able to use CUPS's web-interface 

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Re: Cups+printer install?

2005-08-04 Thread Andrzej Doyle

Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:




On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
 


Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.



  




 


Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:


Are you using KDE? ...


   The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center...




Given that X windows is a prerequisite for KDE, it's safe to assume 
someone who doesn't want to install the former won't have the latter 
installed.


The CUPS Software Adminstrators Manual has the answer.  Depending on 
what you have installed, it may be available locally at 
/usr/share/cups/doc-root/sam.html and if not, it's always available at 
http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sam.html (both in a lynx-friendly format).  
A relevant excerpt:


Adding your first printer from the command line

Run the lpadmin command with the -p option to add a printer to CUPS:

/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p /printer/ -E -v /device/ -m /ppd/ ENTER


I would highly recommend you read through the entire document if you're 
going to be using/changing CUPS settings.  There's also a Software Users 
Manual available, focussing on the end-users' viewpoint, available at 
the same URIs but as sum.html.


HTH,
Andrzej


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Re: Cups+printer install?

2005-08-03 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless



On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
 


Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.
   



 


Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:

Are you using KDE?  If so, I believe you can use the KDE Control Center (under 
Peripheral Devices > Printers).  You should also be able to edit the files 
in /etc/cups/ directly to add a printer.  I rarely use a browser for it now, 
I most often use KDE (on Xandros).  I have one laptop running Debian Sarge 
and I am almost sure that KDE has a wizard for adding printers (in the 
Control Center of KDE).



8)
 

   The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center activates a printer 
wizard.  I found it more
intuitively easy to use than the http://localhost:631/ option in the 
browser.  Now I haven't used it to
install a remote printer.  The Debian KDE list might also have some good 
suggestions for you.


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