Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
On Mon 11 Nov 2002 14:23, David Pashley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 11 November 2002 2:00 pm, Giles Constant wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Gay wrote: > > > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a > > > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find. > > > > If you want to compile your entire system up yourself, you might want to > > look at gentoo (www.gentoo.org). It's based on the BSD portage system, > > so it compiles absolutely everything when you install it. > > > > It took me from 10am until about 2am to get my Athlon-XP 1.8 running KDE > > from scratch, and it's still not quite how I want things, but it was > > worth it :-) Everything was compiled with gcc-3.2 and -mcpu=athlon-xp, > > etc. > > apt-get install apt-src > or > apt-get install apt-build > Thats nice, except I want packages and things that are not available in Debian Woody due to the latency between releases! I.E. KDE-3.1 XFree86-4.2.1 Accelerated X from XIG KPovModeler POV-Ray-3.5 Rosegarden-4 just to name a few. I am also looking forward to learning a lot along the way. I did a trial run with a spare box, the LFS tarball and XFree86 and KDE3.0Beta2 sources I had on a few DVD's. I was inpressed with the results and now have greater confidence in my abilities. Don't get me wrong. I have enjoyed Debian emensely. The apt tools are second to none! Ease of administration has helped my play with Linux before I fully understood it. And I have learned a lot of good lessons following the various Debian mailing lists. However, the slow release cycle has allways kept me wishing for more up-to-date apps. I've also tinkered with both testing and unstable and have suffered many set-backs as a result. Thanks to the great Debian supporters on hte various lists, I've always managed to recover but I feel I'm not completely in control and my system seems to run many things for no apperent reason? Because of these reasons, I've decided to re-build my system from source. I've still got Debian on my Daughters PC and that will be staying and updating. I'll also continue recommending Debian to anyone who wants to get to know Linux. Thanks for the info, but my original questions remain unanswered. Hasso Tepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Gay wrote: > I'll be building KDE3.1 once it's released, scheduled for Monday, > the 11th. The latest I heard was that GCC3.2, KDE3.1 and trolltechs > qt3.0.5 did not play together well, and that KDE's qt-copy should > be used instead. Is this still the case? Is this likely to change > soon? KDE 3.1 will require qt-3.1. I am guessing that any existing problems are/will be sorted out for hte release? I'l also be building KOffice1.2, the latest stable version, but KDevelop is giving me pause for thought. I know that KDevelop2.x has stopped development and that Gideon is the next version as KDevelop3.0. What has been peoples experiences with both of these on KDE3.0? Is Gideon a fast moving target that I would be better to wait for the stable release? Is the stable version of KDevelop good for KDE3.1 development? Last time I looked at KDevelop, the documentation was seriously out-of-date. Has this been worked on? This question has not been approached as far as I have seen? Basically it's two parts. 1) Should I stick to the latest stable version of KDevelop or is Gideon usable for someone just learning to program? 2) The Documentation for the version on my box, Qt: 2.3.1 KDE: 2.2.2 KDevelop: 2.1.2 is seriously out-of-date. Most of it still describes developing KDE1 apps? Has this improved in either new versions? I'm most interested in the tutorials as I hope to one day write my own KDE application. Again, thank you for all your valuable input and all the work you do to try to keep Debian as cutting edge as the release cycle allows. Cheers, John Gay
Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 11 November 2002 2:00 pm, Giles Constant wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Gay wrote: > > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a > > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find. > > If you want to compile your entire system up yourself, you might want to > look at gentoo (www.gentoo.org). It's based on the BSD portage system, so > it compiles absolutely everything when you install it. > > It took me from 10am until about 2am to get my Athlon-XP 1.8 running KDE > from scratch, and it's still not quite how I want things, but it was worth > it :-) Everything was compiled with gcc-3.2 and -mcpu=athlon-xp, etc. apt-get install apt-src or apt-get install apt-build - -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9z71mYsCKa6wDNXYRAkaKAJ49ctobhoDriXR5tHXSgXP3hGWlpgCgoJEo 4q9W8TJtuGs1r+FTeujM3LE= =B7pq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
On Mon 11 Nov 2002 14:00, Giles Constant wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Gay wrote: > > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a > > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find. > > If you want to compile your entire system up yourself, you might want to > look at gentoo (www.gentoo.org). It's based on the BSD portage system, so > it compiles absolutely everything when you install it. > > It took me from 10am until about 2am to get my Athlon-XP 1.8 running KDE > from scratch, and it's still not quite how I want things, but it was worth > it :-) Everything was compiled with gcc-3.2 and -mcpu=athlon-xp, etc. Yes, I'm familiar with Gentoo. And am looking forward to playing with portage once Iv'e got my system going, but I'm on a 56k modem connection and have to pay 0.01 Euro per minute evenings and weekends. On hte other hand, I've a friend who's agreed to fetch a list of sources for me and burn them to CD. Much cheaper option ;-) Cheers, John Gay
Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Gay wrote: > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find. If you want to compile your entire system up yourself, you might want to look at gentoo (www.gentoo.org). It's based on the BSD portage system, so it compiles absolutely everything when you install it. It took me from 10am until about 2am to get my Athlon-XP 1.8 running KDE from scratch, and it's still not quite how I want things, but it was worth it :-) Everything was compiled with gcc-3.2 and -mcpu=athlon-xp, etc.
Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
On Monday 11 November 2002 12:16, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:59:38AM +, John Gay wrote: > > I realise this is not exactly Debian related, but I know that quie a few > > of you are working on building KDE and QT with GCC3.2 and just wanted to > > ask some experts. > > > > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a > > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find. > > > > I am starting with the LFS base system tarball, which includes GCC3.2 and > > a few patches. As my card is not 3D accelerated in XFree86, I'll be using > > xig's Accelerated X server, but I still need to build XFree86, since xig > > does not provide most of the X libs or header files, expecting them to > > allready be installed. Lol... > Just out of interest, how much does 'Accelerated X' cost? I can't > imagine it would be < $US100, which is more than you'd pay for a quite > reasonably fast GeForce or Radeon or even a Matrox card, all of which > are accelerated under XFree86. 120 usd for the radeoin 8500 "platinum" version (all radeon 8500 features enabled). It differs wildly depending on your video card. > On the other hand, maybe you've got some really expensive 3d card which > none of the XFree86 hackers can afford to buy and hack on:) Hehe... :-) . A Sun XVR-1000 or something... costs 3495$ :-) > Idly curious, > > -rob Frank
Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:59:38AM +, John Gay wrote: > I realise this is not exactly Debian related, but I know that quie a few of > you are working on building KDE and QT with GCC3.2 and just wanted to ask > some experts. > > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find. > > I am starting with the LFS base system tarball, which includes GCC3.2 and a > few patches. As my card is not 3D accelerated in XFree86, I'll be using xig's > Accelerated X server, but I still need to build XFree86, since xig does not > provide most of the X libs or header files, expecting them to allready be > installed. Just out of interest, how much does 'Accelerated X' cost? I can't imagine it would be < $US100, which is more than you'd pay for a quite reasonably fast GeForce or Radeon or even a Matrox card, all of which are accelerated under XFree86. On the other hand, maybe you've got some really expensive 3d card which none of the XFree86 hackers can afford to buy and hack on:) Idly curious, -rob pgpLEbZaibS0g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE3.1, qt3.0.5 and GCC3.2???
John Gay wrote: > I'll be building KDE3.1 once it's released, scheduled for Monday, > the 11th. The latest I heard was that GCC3.2, KDE3.1 and trolltechs > qt3.0.5 did not play together well, and that KDE's qt-copy should > be used instead. Is this still the case? Is this likely to change > soon? KDE 3.1 will require qt-3.1. -- Hasso Tepper KDE Estonian Team
