Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to testing

2022-03-17 Thread Borden
17 Mar 2022, 08:52 by didi.deb...@cknow.org:
> A quick look at man:/apt didn't show a '-s' from simulate being present, but 
> if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But 'even' apt 
> upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.> So if 
> that looks sane, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't.
>
> And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?
> The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.
>
> HTH,
>  Diederik
>
I don't blame you for assuming that I blindly run full upgrades without 
reviewing the proposed changes first. However, during the last Plasma update 
there was a dependency bug in kwin. After a "safe" upgrade testing systems 
booted into a black screen. 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2021/10/msg00045.html

Sometimes the user should _not_ be faulted for a broken system :-)



Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to testing

2022-03-17 Thread Diederik de Haas
On donderdag 17 maart 2022 13:55:59 CET Gregorio Rodrigo wrote:
> I am facing a small bug/problem/new feature. I use a left handed mouse but
> the configuration is not saved every time I plug/unplug the mouse. It was
> working before the upgrade (left handled with the mouse, right handled with
> the touch mouse).

Then file a bug report for it. (I don't know against which package though)
A new (upstream) version typically brings new features, bugfixes AND new bugs.
By reporting them, they can be addressed.

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Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to testing

2022-03-17 Thread Gregorio Rodrigo
Hi everyone,

I am facing a small bug/problem/new feature. I use a left handed mouse but
the configuration is not saved every time I plug/unplug the mouse. It was
working before the upgrade (left handled with the mouse, right handled with
the touch mouse).

Regards
Gregorio

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 12:53, Diederik de Haas 
wrote:

> On woensdag 16 maart 2022 23:03:03 CET Borden wrote:
> > Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the
> > update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma
> > upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.
>
> A quick look at man:/apt didn't show a '-s' from simulate being present,
> but
> if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But 'even' apt
> upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.
> So if that looks sane, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't.
>
> And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?
> The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.
>
> HTH,
>   Diederik


Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to testing

2022-03-17 Thread Diederik de Haas
On woensdag 16 maart 2022 23:03:03 CET Borden wrote:
> Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the
> update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma
> upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.

A quick look at man:/apt didn't show a '-s' from simulate being present, but 
if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But 'even' apt 
upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.
So if that looks sane, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't.

And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?
The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.

HTH,
  Diederik

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Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to testing

2022-03-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 23:03:03 +0100 (CET)
Borden  wrote:

Hello Borden,

>Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in
>the update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous
>Plasma upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.

I updated several days ago. The only problem was losing login audio
notification (1).  Otherwise, all is well.

(1) Not for the first time, either.  It's an old issue, which has
recurred.  See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422948
Comment #49 provides a workaround that did the job for me.  Comment #87
points to another option, but I failed to get it to work here.

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Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to testing

2022-03-16 Thread Borden
Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the 
update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma 
upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.