Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-09 Thread Doug Holland
/me sends his order to Branden:

One fixed libxrender1 please, hold the sarcasm. ;)






Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:30, Paul Cupis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> > > Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
> > >
> > > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
> >
> > Just to tell you:
> > I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the
> > error was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1
> > is used instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.
>
> Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
> libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

Just to keep people up-to-date, it will be a few hours before Branden is 
ready to upload a fixed, so please either downgrade or wait for the new 
package to be built, tested and uploaded.

=== 
xrender (0.8.3-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Urgency medium because the problem fixed by this release bites a lot 
of KDE users who are using XFree86 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 Debian packages.

  * Add new diversion of the actual old libXrender shared object (as 
opposed to diverting only the symlinks).  This is necessary because 
ldconfig will recreate the libXrender.so.1 symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/
lib, which causes major confusion (and possibly errors from the dynamic 
loader) for anything that searches /usr/X11R6/lib before /usr/lib. /
usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.1 is now being diverted to /usr/X11R6/
lib/xlibs.libXrender-1.1.so.1.1.  The diversion's name has to have 
"xlibs." preprended because ldconfig will attempt to operate on any 
plain file matching "lib*.so*".
- debian/libxrender1.preinst
- debian/libxrender1.postrm

  * Under duress, ship a symlink from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.la to /
usr/lib/libXrender.la.  There appears to be a bug in libtool that that 
compels it to place absolute paths to .la files in other .la files. 
This symlink should allow a transition to a non-broken libtool (or the 
eventual recompilation of all libraries that transitively depend on 
libXrender, which is a lot of them) and will be removed in the future.
- debian/libxrender-dev.links

 -- Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed,  8 Oct 2003 19:17:31 
- -0500
=== 

Thanks, and goodnight.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 02:30, Paul Cupis shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> > Just to tell you:
> > I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
> > was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
> > instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.
>
> Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
> libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

I'm pretty sure this is unrelated to the wrong accented characters, 
because I have no libXrender libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib/ in any of my 
machines.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> > Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
> >
> > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
>
> Just to tell you:
> I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
> was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
> instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new 
libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

Paul Cupis
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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
>
> To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Just to tell you:
I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error was gone.
That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used instead of the 
symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

HS

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 05:52:23PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who is
> having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the var
> for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the
> following points to:

Oops I am dumb. :) It appears to have something do with XFree 4.2 vs
XFree 4.3. I have to run XFree 4.3 so haven't seen this problem myself.
I am working with Branden Robinson to help resolve this issue now.

BTW think of LD_BIND_NOW as:

LD_BIND_NOW="yes" kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

it is passing the variable to kdeinit not being misquoted. That is the
reason doing LD_BIND_NOW="yes kdeinit +kcminit +knotify" would be
incorrect.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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People,

I think we are confident that this is not an issue with bash/dash or 
with the quoting in /usr/bin/startkde. Please leave the relevant line 
in startkde as distributed:

  LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

When we have a solution to this libxrender/ldconfig breakage, we will 
let you all know.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:49, Hendrik Sattler shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
>
> However, I did what Chris suggested and the error disappeared. So it
> can't be totally wrong.

Only because LD_BIND_NOW becomes false.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:33, Paul Cupis shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to
> 0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

I've libxrender1 0.8.2-1 and can't see the accented characters (neither 
some html ones since I compiled kdelibs/kdebase 3.1.4 against qt3.2).


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
>
> To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

However, I did what Chris suggested and the error disappeared. So it can't be 
totally wrong.

HS

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 00:52, Chris Cheney shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who
> is having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the
> var for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the

If you refer to adding:
 
LD_BIND_NOW="true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify"

This is wrong, because without the quotes it assigns true to LD_BIND_NOW 
and the execute kdeinit. 

By adding the quotes you assign to full string to the variable.

That means that kdeinit isn't started there (and probably LD_BIND_NOW is 
tested as "true"). But kdeinit is still started later on, so I wonder the 
what's doing exactly that line there.


> following points to:
>
> ls -al /bin/sh
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 2003-09-18 17:12 /bin/sh ->
> bash
>
> I think not having the quotes is wrong but that bash doesnÂt care(?).

I've all my machines linked to bash and still three of them fail, and one 
with X4.2 works

> However, I do have at least one reported case where when /bin/sh points
> to dash it causes the problem. dash is posix shell which would very
> likely make the code fail. If this fixes the problem I will correct it
> in the next upload.

I think is related to a variable initialisation in startx|startkde, but is 
not this one.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.

To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in 
libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and 
solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to 
0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

To those of you who are aware of Branden/Overfiend:

Oct 09 00:31:51  it says "OH, LOOK HERE'S A SHARED OBJECT 
WITHOUT A .SO.SOVERSION SYMLINK TO IT, WHY NO ONE COULD EVER POSSIBLY 
HAVE THINGS THAT WAY ON PURPOSE, I THINK I'LL UNCONDITIONALLY CREATE A 
SYMLINK"

:)

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