Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:10:47PM -0500, David Rosenstrauch scrawled:
> I saw a few msgs about problems with TT fonts go by recently, but none of 
> them 
> seemed to solve my problem.
> 
> All my True Type fonts seemed to get hosed after an "apt-get upgrade" a few 
> days ago (not sure what was changed - looks like maybe the fontconfig pckg).
> 
> After tweaking with the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and local.conf files, I was 
> able 
> to restore most of them (particularly Helvetica and Fixed[Sony], which I rely 
> on heavily).

fontconfig 2.1.90 is screwed.

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Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Developer, Trinity College, University of Melbourne


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Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Doug Holland
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 10:10 am, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> All my True Type fonts seemed to get hosed after an "apt-get upgrade" a few
> days ago (not sure what was changed - looks like maybe the fontconfig
> pckg).
>
> But all of my True Type fonts are still screwed up.  (See
> http://home.nyc.rr.com/darsys/fontprobs/FontBad.png for an example of the
> broken Arial font; http://home.nyc.rr.com/darsys/fontprobs/FontGood.png for
> an example of the working Helvetica font.)
>
> My fonts.conf file includes: /usr/share/fonts which looks
> correct to me, since my TT fonts are located in /usr/share/fonts/truetype. 
> But TT fonts like Arial are still displaying as jagged.  It was all working
> fine (I think) up until recently (although I haven't tried Arial or other
> TT's in a little while), but then got hosed with some update.
>
> It seems like X and KDE both are aware of the Arial font, but somehow are
> not loading it.
>
> BTW, my KDE is set to not display fonts as anti-aliased across the board
> (and I'd like to keep it that way).
>
>
> Anyone have any ideas?

The newest version of libfreetype6 has bugs that cause it to mangle TrueType 
fonts.  The workaround, thanks to Karolina, is to downgrade to the previous 
version of Freetype and fontconfig.

>tisdagen den 11 mars 2003 07.29 skrev Doug Holland:
>
>> Anyone have a copy of 2.1.3-10?  I'm also having problems with font
>> mangling.
>
>Available from
>http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2003/03/01/debian/pool/main/f/freetype/
>
>fontconfig also need to be downgraded, since it depends on the newer version.





Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Patrick Dreker
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Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 23:08 schrieb Karolina Lindqvist:
> Tuesday 11 March 2003 20.30 skrev Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> > "I tried compiling kdenetwork and it fails to build. The old version that
> > is on my p.d.o website failed in a meinproc section, and a new checkout
> > from branch fails in a different spot.
>
> I got the same meinproc problem trying the same thing, and to me it
> appeared that one file was missing from kdelibs.
I had some trouble compiling some packages for Orth's CVS HEAD Repository. the 
"offending" packages also failed in meinproc, and I found that kdex.dtd has 
been deprecated and replaced by an (incompatible) new one. I worked around 
the problem by symlinking the appropriate directory into the source tree of 
the program.

Maybe there is a similar issue in the less bleeding edge packages?

Patrick
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Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Donald Spoon
Michael Schuerig wrote:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 20:48, Donald Spoon wrote:
The relevant packages I currently have installed are:
fontconfig - 2.1.92-2

Try going back to (lib)fontconfig 2.1.90-1. If you're lucky the old 
packages are still lying around in /var/cache/apt/archives.

It works for me on sid. The later versions I've tried all mess up my 
fonts.

Advice: Don't throw away old packages until you're sure the new ones 
work as expected.

Michael
Thanks!  I have a "workable" system right now with anti-aliasing turned 
off.  I really don't notice any font "quality" differences with it 
turned off... maybe it wasn't working before??  Past experiences with 
down-grading packages have been frightening , so I will probably 
stay where I am and ride this through..

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-



Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 20:48, Donald Spoon wrote:
> The relevant packages I currently have installed are:
>
> fontconfig - 2.1.92-2

Try going back to (lib)fontconfig 2.1.90-1. If you're lucky the old 
packages are still lying around in /var/cache/apt/archives.

It works for me on sid. The later versions I've tried all mess up my 
fonts.

Advice: Don't throw away old packages until you're sure the new ones 
work as expected.

Michael

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  as selective stupidity.
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Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
Tuesday 11 March 2003 20.30 skrev Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:

> "I tried compiling kdenetwork and it fails to build. The old version that
> is on my p.d.o website failed in a meinproc section, and a new checkout
> from branch fails in a different spot. 

I got the same meinproc problem trying the same thing, and to me it appeared 
that one file was missing from kdelibs.




Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Filipe Sousa
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 19:48, Donald Spoon wrote:
> David Rosenstrauch wrote:
[...]

> I like to use anti-aliasing, and since that was the only setting where
> my TT fonts were available to KDE, that is what I had my system set on
> during the above mod.  Based on your message, I turned anti-aliasing OFF
> and VOILAall my fonts are now visable... both TT and the normal
> System fonts!  The Konsole app is now working as it used to, and
> everything appears "normal" to my eye.

If you disable AA all TT are normal, but you will lose the shadow (alpha) from 
kicker icons. This is a problem with freetype.

> The relevant packages I currently have installed are:
>
> fontconfig - 2.1.92-2
> libfontconfig - 2.1.92-2
> libc6 - 4.2.1-3
> libfreetype6 - 2.1.3 + 2.1.4.rc2
> zlib 1g - 1:1.1.4-11
>
> I am running XFree86 version 4.2.1-3 from "testing" I believe.
>
> Bottome Line (for me):  Turn off anti-aliasing and make the mods to
> /etc/fonts/local.conf file.  Be sure to run "fc-cache -f -v" after you
> make the mods to update the font cache info.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Don Spoon-

-- 
Filipe Sousa




Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Hmmm.  Didn't see that post in the archive when I was searching.

OK, it's not just me, then.  I'll wait for the next updates.

Thanks for the response, Anders!


DR


On Tuesday 11 March 2003 02:30 pm, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 18:10, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> > All my True Type fonts seemed to get hosed after an "apt-get upgrade" a
> > few days ago (not sure what was changed - looks like maybe the fontconfig
> > pckg).
>
> I quote Chris Cheney from Sunday:
>
> "I tried compiling kdenetwork and it fails to build. The old version that
> is on my p.d.o website failed in a meinproc section, and a new checkout
> from branch fails in a different spot.  I also tried building all of KDE
> using a new checkout from branch but there were various problems. Also
> fontconfig is screwed up now and konsole only sees about half the fonts
> it should and some of the ones it does see are being substituted wrong.
>
> Hopefully once KDE 3.1.1 gets released (soon) and fontconfig 2.2 is
> released and the bugs worked out of it I will be able to do another build
> and upload to debian.
>
> Chris"
>
> So looks like it's just plain broken atm..
>
> Anders




Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Donald Spoon
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
I saw a few msgs about problems with TT fonts go by recently, but none of them 
seemed to solve my problem.

All my True Type fonts seemed to get hosed after an "apt-get upgrade" a few 
days ago (not sure what was changed - looks like maybe the fontconfig pckg).

After tweaking with the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and local.conf files, I was able 
to restore most of them (particularly Helvetica and Fixed[Sony], which I rely 
on heavily).

But all of my True Type fonts are still screwed up.  (See 
http://home.nyc.rr.com/darsys/fontprobs/FontBad.png for an example of the 
broken Arial font; http://home.nyc.rr.com/darsys/fontprobs/FontGood.png for 
an example of the working Helvetica font.)

My fonts.conf file includes: /usr/share/fonts which looks correct 
to me, since my TT fonts are located in /usr/share/fonts/truetype.  But TT 
fonts like Arial are still displaying as jagged.  It was all working fine (I 
think) up until recently (although I haven't tried Arial or other TT's in a 
little while), but then got hosed with some update.

It seems like X and KDE both are aware of the Arial font, but somehow are not 
loading it.

BTW, my KDE is set to not display fonts as anti-aliased across the board (and 
I'd like to keep it that way).

Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!
DR

No answers... just some more observations based on your post.
I am running a testing/unstable setup here with KDE 2.2 from "testing". 
 I had TT fonts working just fine and also anti-aliasing with a "stock" 
testing install.  Various things caused me to pull in the new fontconfig 
stuff from SID, and initially the fonts looked better, but recently 
(last week or so) fontconfig upgrades from SID have caused some serious 
havoc on my system.  Specifically, the mono-spaced fonts used in the 
Konsole app were double-spaced, and I couldn't get some of my fonts to 
display under the "Control Center"--> "Look and Feel"--> "Fonts" menu. 
The TT fonts would show up if I had anti-aliasing turned on, but other 
"system" fonts like Helvetica would not display unless I turned 
anti-aliasing off.

Based on another thread, I modified my /etc/fonts/local.conf file to read:




/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts  <-- Added Line

This didn't solve anything, unfortunaltely :(
I like to use anti-aliasing, and since that was the only setting where 
my TT fonts were available to KDE, that is what I had my system set on 
during the above mod.  Based on your message, I turned anti-aliasing OFF 
and VOILAall my fonts are now visable... both TT and the normal 
System fonts!  The Konsole app is now working as it used to, and 
everything appears "normal" to my eye.

The relevant packages I currently have installed are:
fontconfig - 2.1.92-2
libfontconfig - 2.1.92-2
libc6 - 4.2.1-3
libfreetype6 - 2.1.3 + 2.1.4.rc2
zlib 1g - 1:1.1.4-11
I am running XFree86 version 4.2.1-3 from "testing" I believe.
Bottome Line (for me):  Turn off anti-aliasing and make the mods to 
/etc/fonts/local.conf file.  Be sure to run "fc-cache -f -v" after you 
make the mods to update the font cache info.

HTH,
-Don Spoon-



Re: Yet another TT fonts problem on Debian sid

2003-03-11 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 18:10, David Rosenstrauch wrote:

> All my True Type fonts seemed to get hosed after an "apt-get upgrade" a few
> days ago (not sure what was changed - looks like maybe the fontconfig
> pckg).

I quote Chris Cheney from Sunday:

"I tried compiling kdenetwork and it fails to build. The old version that
is on my p.d.o website failed in a meinproc section, and a new checkout
from branch fails in a different spot.  I also tried building all of KDE
using a new checkout from branch but there were various problems. Also
fontconfig is screwed up now and konsole only sees about half the fonts
it should and some of the ones it does see are being substituted wrong.

Hopefully once KDE 3.1.1 gets released (soon) and fontconfig 2.2 is
released and the bugs worked out of it I will be able to do another build
and upload to debian.

Chris"

So looks like it's just plain broken atm..

Anders


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