Re: can't start kde

2005-10-29 Thread lordSauron
is he/she saying startx and not startkde?  That had me bamboozeled for
the longest time...



Re: can't start kde

2005-10-29 Thread Tristan Champomier
Check if your local interface (lo) is mounted at boot in 
(/etc/network/interfaces) ;-)

Tristan.

Le Samedi 29 Octobre 2005 09:59, Theo Schmidt a écrit :
> Emil-Valentin Toma schrieb:
> > Hi, I'm new in using debian pure.
> >
> > After first install, install also kde, reboot, the
> > login window appears but after few second kde doesn't
> > start but come back in login window.
>
> ...
>
> I had similar difficulties with three Sarge installations. The default
> is Gnome and gdm. It is possible to select software during installation
> with the program aptitude, but this is a dangerous program with a not
> very intuitive pseudo-GUI unsuitable for newcomers, so it is easy to
> foul things up at this stage. I suggest doing a complete new install of
> full graphical destop system not selecting anything with aptitude. You
> should then eventually get a graphical login screen (called gdm). This
> will start Gnome by default but it should be possible to select KDE as
> well.
>
> An easier alternative is to install KDE-Debian is from Knoppix. First
> start the Knoppix Live-CD or Live-DVD, e.g. Version 4.0. Then you can
> invoke the knoppix-installer (I believe it is called just that) from the
> root shell and select the Debian installation. You could also use the
> live-CD for a while as it is and create a permanent home on hard disk,
> which will not only hold data but also configurations and installed
> software. A system called union file system merges the files from home
> and from the CD. When everything is to your liking, you can then start
> the installation onto hard disk and all the changes will be
> incorporated. This is a quite unique and splendid way of installing.
> There is no difficulty if you have the required partitions and know
> where they are and do not have a complicated multiboot-system with
> various systems on various disks.
>
> However with Debian from Knoppix you will then have many programs from
> the unstable (Sid) fork of Debian, and some from testing (Etch), so you
> will eventually get problems, especially with KDE, if you start to
> install or uninstall things without paying great attention. Installing
> software can be done with kpackage, but IMHO synaptic is easier to use.
> Synaptic will relatively clearly warn you before removing KDE
> completely, which is often a result of trying to install, remove or
> update a single program in KDE. Knoppix uses standard Debian packages
> for most things.
>
> A further alternative is to install Kubuntu, which will give you a well
> configured KDE Debian-based system, but Kubuntu is not Debian and I'm
> not sure if it can be easily turned into a pure Debian.
>
> Theo Schmidt



Re: can't start kde

2005-10-29 Thread Theo Schmidt

Emil-Valentin Toma schrieb:

Hi, I'm new in using debian pure.

After first install, install also kde, reboot, the
login window appears but after few second kde doesn't
start but come back in login window.

...

I had similar difficulties with three Sarge installations. The default 
is Gnome and gdm. It is possible to select software during installation 
with the program aptitude, but this is a dangerous program with a not 
very intuitive pseudo-GUI unsuitable for newcomers, so it is easy to 
foul things up at this stage. I suggest doing a complete new install of 
full graphical destop system not selecting anything with aptitude. You 
should then eventually get a graphical login screen (called gdm). This 
will start Gnome by default but it should be possible to select KDE as well.


An easier alternative is to install KDE-Debian is from Knoppix. First 
start the Knoppix Live-CD or Live-DVD, e.g. Version 4.0. Then you can 
invoke the knoppix-installer (I believe it is called just that) from the 
root shell and select the Debian installation. You could also use the 
live-CD for a while as it is and create a permanent home on hard disk, 
which will not only hold data but also configurations and installed 
software. A system called union file system merges the files from home 
and from the CD. When everything is to your liking, you can then start 
the installation onto hard disk and all the changes will be 
incorporated. This is a quite unique and splendid way of installing. 
There is no difficulty if you have the required partitions and know 
where they are and do not have a complicated multiboot-system with 
various systems on various disks.


However with Debian from Knoppix you will then have many programs from 
the unstable (Sid) fork of Debian, and some from testing (Etch), so you 
will eventually get problems, especially with KDE, if you start to 
install or uninstall things without paying great attention. Installing 
software can be done with kpackage, but IMHO synaptic is easier to use. 
Synaptic will relatively clearly warn you before removing KDE 
completely, which is often a result of trying to install, remove or 
update a single program in KDE. Knoppix uses standard Debian packages 
for most things.


A further alternative is to install Kubuntu, which will give you a well 
configured KDE Debian-based system, but Kubuntu is not Debian and I'm 
not sure if it can be easily turned into a pure Debian.


Theo Schmidt


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Re: can't start kde

2005-10-28 Thread Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:32:38 +0200
Emil-Valentin Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Hi, I'm new in using debian pure.
> 
> After first install, install also kde, reboot, the
> login window appears but after few second kde doesn't
> start but come back in login window.
> [...]
> What I have to do?
> 
...post the output of 
$ egrep "\(EE|\(WW" /var/log/XFree86.0.log

And have a look at this log file. At the end there's probably a message
that tells you what went wrong. Probably there's something wrong with
your configuration. 

Ulrich


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Re: can't start kde

2005-10-28 Thread Curt Howland
On Friday 28 October 2005 09:14, Emil-Valentin Toma was heard to say:
> Hi, I'm new in using debian pure.
>
> After first install, install also kde, reboot, the
> login window appears but after few second kde doesn't
> start but come back in login window.
>
> I'vre reinstalled basic system, without software.
>
> I used "apt-get install kde". Everything ok. From
> console I tried startkde. The message:
> "kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server" appears
> continually until Ctrl+c. What I have to do?
>
> Emil

You also need to "apt-get install xserver-xfree86" and maybe a few 
others to get the full xserver running so that KDE has something to 
display upon.

I'd suggest dselect, aptitude, tasksel, or one of the other helper 
programs for apt which will help resolve all the xwindow 
requirements.

Curt-


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Re: Can't Start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread cobaco
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On 2004-02-22 21:43, Robert Tilley wrote:
> I am running unstable and upgraded to the KDE 3.2.  The packages I used
> are located at the repository listed at DebianWiki,
>
> i.e.  deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.2.0/ ./
>   deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde-3.2 ./
>
> After a reboot of my machine, to ensure that kdm will start (I don't know
> how to start kdm from a command line), I enter my user name and password.
>  The KDE desktop background pictures appears.
>
> At that point, all loading of the KDE environment appears to stop.  No
> dialog with a progress bar appears nor other widgets.  

I had a similar problem a while back, turned out that the x-session-manager 
wasn't pointing to /usr/bin/startkde but to /usr/bin/kde3
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Re: Can't Start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Adam Edwards
Robert Tilley blathered on 02/22/04 15:43:
After a reboot of my machine, to ensure that kdm will start (I don't know how 
to start kdm from a command line), I enter my user name and password.  The 
KDE desktop background pictures appears.

At that point, all loading of the KDE environment appears to stop.  No dialog 
with a progress bar appears nor other widgets.  Mouseclicks cause no 
reaction, either left, middle, or right (3-button mouse) and I don't know how 
to proceed.  I did a three-finger salute (ctrl-alt-backspace) and had to 
enter twm to start a kmail session.
I do not know why this works, but it did for me.  I set gdm as the
default window manager (through dpkg-reconfigure kdm, stopped kdm
(/etc/init.d/kdm stop), started gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm start), logged in
to kde through it, logged out, reset kdm as the default window manager
(again through dpkg-reconfigure kdm), stopped gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm
stop), started kdm (/etc/init.d/kdm start) logged in and it worked.  I
really have no idea why, but it did.
Good luck,
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Re: Can't Start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Sunday 22 February 2004 21:20, Robert Tilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Sunday 22 February 2004 03:26 pm, James Stark wrote:
> > > Needless to say, any help is most wecome.  How do you start kdm
> > > from the console?
> >
> > execute:
> >
> > /etc/init.d/kdm start
> >
> > as root.
>
> This will cause kdm to have root priveleges, will it not?  Is this
> good from a security standpoint?

Root privileges are required in order to run xfree86. The kdm initscript 
starts the X server.

To the OP: from a virtual console (command line), you can start kde 
directly by running:

  $ startx /usr/bin/kde3

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Re: Can't Start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Robert Tilley
On Sunday 22 February 2004 03:26 pm, James Stark wrote:
> > Needless to say, any help is most wecome.  How do you start kdm from the
> > console?
>
> execute:
>
> /etc/init.d/kdm start
>
> as root.

This will cause kdm to have root priveleges, will it not?  Is this good from a 
security standpoint?
-- 
Comments are appreciated,

Bob




Re: Can't Start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread James Stark
> Needless to say, any help is most wecome.  How do you start kdm from the
> console?

execute:

/etc/init.d/kdm start

as root.

James