Re: GMail in KMail and secure IMAP
Hi! On 2009-10-14 Ismael Bejarano wrote: Hi! Sometimes I suffer from messages being deleted (they still appear in All Mail but are not tagged), it was more frequent when handling a large folder with lots of emails and synchronizing automatically each 5 minutes. Sometimes the connection was lost during synchronization and in subsequent attempts the emails were deleted instead of being marked as read (the connection lost can be due to my poor upload speed). Since switching to manual synchronization this doesn't occur anymore, or at least I'm not able to realize it. BTW I use disconnected IMAP. I've got my settings still at automatically synchronizing but upped the interval a bit. I want the automatic sync since using KMail for GMail was triggered by my wish to get rid of the GMail Notifier in my browser (too invasive). And now KMail isn't synchronizing all the time anymore (combined with changes described below). I suggest to not download All Mail folder, all email are downloaded twice if you do that. Also folders with lots of email can be really painful to synchronize I've opted for splitting by years, ie debian,debian-2008,debian-2007, etc. Not only have I now excluded All Mail, but also Bin, Starred and all the folders you see which are labels on GMail. Synchronization seems to go a lot smoother/faster now :) And I guess it's time I'd go over my mails and start using the archive feature instead of leaving everything in my inbox. Before starting with KMail I didn't even know disconnected IMAP existed, but I'm reading up on it. Does disconnected IMAP synchronize quicker then 'online' IMAP I think IMAP has a cache, and there's a context menu with an option to clear it, sorry I can't point it exactly I'm not at home right now. On the File menu there's an item Refresh Local IMAP Cache, I've done that (twice) but that particular msg hasn't appeared (yet?). Regards, Ismael Thanks for the reply, it was really helpful :) Diederik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: GMail in KMail and secure IMAP
Hi! On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.org wrote: Hello, A couple of days ago I configured KMail to get my GMail using IMAP according to these instructions: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 It then tried to retrieve all the msgs I have in GMail, but along the way it apparently modified various msgs and tried to upload them, causing years old msgs to appear at the top of my mail list. While I don't understand why it would do that (and I think it's wrong for trying) I wanted to overlook it as a one-time issue. But every now-and-then I get a popup msg saying it failed to append sth to a msg and gives me the option to continue or cancel. While neither option is clear to me what it does, it make the popup go away. The popup occur with the same msg(s) every time, so it looks that it keeps trying to do it. How can I fix this error/popup from keep appearing? Also, when a msg arrives, I see it both in my inbox and in the All Mail folder and reading one, doesn't mark the other unread. Does someone has some tips and tricks how to properly deal with 'issues' like this and reading GMail in KMail in general? Sometimes I suffer from messages being deleted (they still appear in All Mail but are not tagged), it was more frequent when handling a large folder with lots of emails and synchronizing automatically each 5 minutes. Sometimes the connection was lost during synchronization and in subsequent attempts the emails were deleted instead of being marked as read (the connection lost can be due to my poor upload speed). Since switching to manual synchronization this doesn't occur anymore, or at least I'm not able to realize it. BTW I use disconnected IMAP. I suggest to not download All Mail folder, all email are downloaded twice if you do that. Also folders with lots of email can be really painful to synchronize I've opted for splitting by years, ie debian,debian-2008,debian-2007, etc. I also have another mail account which I access through secure IMAP, setup according to these instructions: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Secure_E-mail Usually it works when setup like that. Sometimes I get time-out errors. Sometimes KMail (not me!) changes that IMAP setting to use port 143 instead of 993 (TLS still enabled in either case). Sometimes the time-out errors disappear when set to port 143, but not always. And today I send an email, but it hasn't shown up in my Sent mail folder for that account, but I can see it's there through webmail. Explicitly synchronizing the Sent mail folder doesn't help either. I think IMAP has a cache, and there's a context menu with an option to clear it, sorry I can't point it exactly I'm not at home right now. Why does KMail change my settings without me telling so? How can/should I configure KMail so it does it's work more reliable (with secure IMAP)? Thanks in advance, Diederik Regards, Ismael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gmail in kmail
Well I've setup the firewall with guarddog, so probably it block the acess to the gmail SMTP protocols, since they use different ports than the normal SMTP. What do you think about it? --- Original message --- From: Alan Ezust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Douglas Stanley Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 13 Август 2005 22:27 Many ISPs block outgoing SMTP from sending out messages not containing a From: or Reply-To: with ISP's address. Which means you should be able to use gmail's smtp for sending messages with a FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you should also be able to use your ISP's provider for sending out e-mails that have your ISP's address somewhere in the headers... But using one SMTP for the other's e-mail will often not work, and that could apply to Google's smtp server as well). On 8/10/05, Douglas Stanley Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:19 am, serja wrote: So should I use the default values: 25 for SMTP and 110 for POP3? I use Kmail for my Gmail account, and I've found that certain ISP's won't let you use a third party SMTP server. Try using your ISP's SMTP server, but keep your recommended Gmail POP3 settings. It should work then.
Re: gmail in kmail
Many ISPs block outgoing SMTP from sending out messages not containing a From: or Reply-To: with ISP's address. Which means you should be able to use gmail's smtp for sending messages with a FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you should also be able to use your ISP's provider for sending out e-mails that have your ISP's address somewhere in the headers... But using one SMTP for the other's e-mail will often not work, and that could apply to Google's smtp server as well). On 8/10/05, Douglas Stanley Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:19 am, serja wrote: So should I use the default values: 25 for SMTP and 110 for POP3? I use Kmail for my Gmail account, and I've found that certain ISP's won't let you use a third party SMTP server. Try using your ISP's SMTP server, but keep your recommended Gmail POP3 settings. It should work then.
Re: gmail in kmail
I'll take break with gmail. :) SMTP even won't work with autodetection of server capabilities in Kmail. maybe it's really blocked by my ISP? Dunno. Probably gonna check in thunderbird. --- Original message --- From: Douglas Stanley Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 10 Август 2005 19:52 On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:19 am, serja wrote: So should I use the default values: 25 for SMTP and 110 for POP3? I use Kmail for my Gmail account, and I've found that certain ISP's won't let you use a third party SMTP server. Try using your ISP's SMTP server, but keep your recommended Gmail POP3 settings. It should work then.
Re: gmail in kmail
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:04, serja wrote: But as I understand 995 for POP3, but receiving work for me just fine, but SMTP just don't work :( Can you try to recreate the transport? Just use PLAIN and eitehr SSL or TLS and do not change the port, or maybe use the automatic detection. Also be sure that you have an empty outbox before doing that to make sure it isn't a problem with the pending mail. Cheers, Kevin pgpAFkXlstf5B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gmail in kmail
So should I use the default values: 25 for SMTP and 110 for POP3? --- Original message --- From: Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 10 Август 2005 10:33 On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:04, serja wrote: But as I understand 995 for POP3, but receiving work for me just fine, but SMTP just don't work :( Can you try to recreate the transport? Just use PLAIN and eitehr SSL or TLS and do not change the port, or maybe use the automatic detection. Also be sure that you have an empty outbox before doing that to make sure it isn't a problem with the pending mail. Cheers, Kevin
Re: gmail in kmail
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:19 am, serja wrote: So should I use the default values: 25 for SMTP and 110 for POP3? I use Kmail for my Gmail account, and I've found that certain ISP's won't let you use a third party SMTP server. Try using your ISP's SMTP server, but keep your recommended Gmail POP3 settings. It should work then. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmail in kmail
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:26, serja wrote: [Transport 3] auth=true authtype=LOGIN I use PLAIN encryption=TLS SSL works fine with me :) host=smtp.gmail.com localHostname= name=gmail pass=*my password* port=587 Albeigth this is stated as a possible port number, I have found myself unavalible using this one. Try the 465 This message was sent trough KMail and smtp.google.com ... you might try my setup and report back... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmail in kmail
I've tried it but my mail is still in my kmail folder :( --- Original message --- From: Martin F. Hohenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 9 Август 2005 15:44 On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:26, serja wrote: [Transport 3] auth=true authtype=LOGIN I use PLAIN encryption=TLS SSL works fine with me :) host=smtp.gmail.com localHostname= name=gmail pass=*my password* port=587 Albeigth this is stated as a possible port number, I have found myself unavalible using this one. Try the 465 This message was sent trough KMail and smtp.google.com ... you might try my setup and report back...
Re: gmail in kmail
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:44, Martin F. Hohenberg wrote: On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:26, serja wrote: [Transport 3] auth=true authtype=LOGIN I use PLAIN Me too. encryption=TLS SSL works fine with me :) TLS works for me. host=smtp.gmail.com localHostname= name=gmail pass=*my password* port=587 Albeigth this is stated as a possible port number, I have found myself unavalible using this one. Try the 465 587 works for me with TLS Cheers, Kevin pgpphWdIDPJPo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gmail in kmail
Well, have tried every possible options, but still no success. --- Original message --- From: Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 9 Август 2005 18:57 On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:44, Martin F. Hohenberg wrote: On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:26, serja wrote: [Transport 3] auth=true authtype=LOGIN I use PLAIN Me too. encryption=TLS SSL works fine with me :) TLS works for me. host=smtp.gmail.com localHostname= name=gmail pass=*my password* port=587 Albeigth this is stated as a possible port number, I have found myself unavalible using this one. Try the 465 587 works for me with TLS Cheers, Kevin
Re: gmail in kmail
I think g-mail is supposed to use port 995. On Tuesday 09 August 2005 11:28 am, serja wrote: Well, have tried every possible options, but still no success. --- Original message --- From: Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 9 Август 2005 18:57 On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:44, Martin F. Hohenberg wrote: On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:26, serja wrote: [Transport 3] auth=true authtype=LOGIN I use PLAIN Me too. encryption=TLS SSL works fine with me :) TLS works for me. host=smtp.gmail.com localHostname= name=gmail pass=*my password* port=587 Albeigth this is stated as a possible port number, I have found myself unavalible using this one. Try the 465 587 works for me with TLS Cheers, Kevin
Re: gmail in kmail
But as I understand 995 for POP3, but receiving work for me just fine, but SMTP just don't work :( --- Original message --- From: Tim Folger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 9 Август 2005 21:27 I think g-mail is supposed to use port 995. On Tuesday 09 August 2005 11:28 am, serja wrote: Well, have tried every possible options, but still no success. --- Original message --- From: Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gmail in kmail Date: 9 Август 2005 18:57 On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:44, Martin F. Hohenberg wrote: On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:26, serja wrote: [Transport 3] auth=true authtype=LOGIN I use PLAIN Me too. encryption=TLS SSL works fine with me :) TLS works for me. host=smtp.gmail.com localHostname= name=gmail pass=*my password* port=587 Albeigth this is stated as a possible port number, I have found myself unavalible using this one. Try the 465 587 works for me with TLS Cheers, Kevin
