Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-09 Thread Doug Holland
/me sends his order to Branden:

One fixed libxrender1 please, hold the sarcasm. ;)






UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who is
having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the var
for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the
following points to:

ls -al /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 2003-09-18 17:12 /bin/sh - bash 

I think not having the quotes is wrong but that bash doesn´t care(?).
However, I do have at least one reported case where when /bin/sh points
to dash it causes the problem. dash is posix shell which would very
likely make the code fail. If this fixes the problem I will correct it
in the next upload.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.

To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in 
libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and 
solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to 
0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

To those of you who are aware of Branden/Overfiend:

Oct 09 00:31:51 Overfiend it says OH, LOOK HERE'S A SHARED OBJECT 
WITHOUT A .SO.SOVERSION SYMLINK TO IT, WHY NO ONE COULD EVER POSSIBLY 
HAVE THINGS THAT WAY ON PURPOSE, I THINK I'LL UNCONDITIONALLY CREATE A 
SYMLINK

:)

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 00:52, Chris Cheney shaped the electrons to 
shout:
 Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who
 is having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the
 var for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the

If you refer to adding:
 
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

This is wrong, because without the quotes it assigns true to LD_BIND_NOW 
and the execute kdeinit. 

By adding the quotes you assign to full string to the variable.

That means that kdeinit isn't started there (and probably LD_BIND_NOW is 
tested as true). But kdeinit is still started later on, so I wonder the 
what's doing exactly that line there.


 following points to:

 ls -al /bin/sh
 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 2003-09-18 17:12 /bin/sh -
 bash

 I think not having the quotes is wrong but that bash doesnt care(?).

I've all my machines linked to bash and still three of them fail, and one 
with X4.2 works

 However, I do have at least one reported case where when /bin/sh points
 to dash it causes the problem. dash is posix shell which would very
 likely make the code fail. If this fixes the problem I will correct it
 in the next upload.

I think is related to a variable initialisation in startx|startkde, but is 
not this one.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
 Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.

 To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
 libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
 solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

However, I did what Chris suggested and the error disappeared. So it can't be 
totally wrong.

HS

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:33, Paul Cupis shaped the electrons to 
shout:
 Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to
 0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

I've libxrender1 0.8.2-1 and can't see the accented characters (neither 
some html ones since I compiled kdelibs/kdebase 3.1.4 against qt3.2).


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:49, Hendrik Sattler shaped the electrons to 
shout:
  To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
  libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
  solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

 However, I did what Chris suggested and the error disappeared. So it
 can't be totally wrong.

Only because LD_BIND_NOW becomes false.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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People,

I think we are confident that this is not an issue with bash/dash or 
with the quoting in /usr/bin/startkde. Please leave the relevant line 
in startkde as distributed:

  LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

When we have a solution to this libxrender/ldconfig breakage, we will 
let you all know.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 05:52:23PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
 Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who is
 having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the var
 for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the
 following points to:

Oops I am dumb. :) It appears to have something do with XFree 4.2 vs
XFree 4.3. I have to run XFree 4.3 so haven't seen this problem myself.
I am working with Branden Robinson to help resolve this issue now.

BTW think of LD_BIND_NOW as:

LD_BIND_NOW=yes kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

it is passing the variable to kdeinit not being misquoted. That is the
reason doing LD_BIND_NOW=yes kdeinit +kcminit +knotify would be
incorrect.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
 Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.

 To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
 libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
 solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Just to tell you:
I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error was gone.
That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used instead of the 
symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

HS

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
  Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
 
  To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
  libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
  solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

 Just to tell you:
 I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
 was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
 instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new 
libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 02:30, Paul Cupis shaped the electrons to 
shout:
  Just to tell you:
  I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
  was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
  instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

 Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
 libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

I'm pretty sure this is unrelated to the wrong accented characters, 
because I have no libXrender libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib/ in any of my 
machines.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:30, Paul Cupis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
   Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
  
   To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
   libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
   solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
 
  Just to tell you:
  I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the
  error was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1
  is used instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

 Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
 libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

Just to keep people up-to-date, it will be a few hours before Branden is 
ready to upload a fixed, so please either downgrade or wait for the new 
package to be built, tested and uploaded.

=== 
xrender (0.8.3-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Urgency medium because the problem fixed by this release bites a lot 
of KDE users who are using XFree86 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 Debian packages.

  * Add new diversion of the actual old libXrender shared object (as 
opposed to diverting only the symlinks).  This is necessary because 
ldconfig will recreate the libXrender.so.1 symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/
lib, which causes major confusion (and possibly errors from the dynamic 
loader) for anything that searches /usr/X11R6/lib before /usr/lib. /
usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.1 is now being diverted to /usr/X11R6/
lib/xlibs.libXrender-1.1.so.1.1.  The diversion's name has to have 
xlibs. preprended because ldconfig will attempt to operate on any 
plain file matching lib*.so*.
- debian/libxrender1.preinst
- debian/libxrender1.postrm

  * Under duress, ship a symlink from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.la to /
usr/lib/libXrender.la.  There appears to be a bug in libtool that that 
compels it to place absolute paths to .la files in other .la files. 
This symlink should allow a transition to a non-broken libtool (or the 
eventual recompilation of all libraries that transitively depend on 
libXrender, which is a lot of them) and will be removed in the future.
- debian/libxrender-dev.links

 -- Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed,  8 Oct 2003 19:17:31 
- -0500
=== 

Thanks, and goodnight.

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