Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-26 Thread RickTaylor
Turner,
}What output do you get if you just run "apt-get install kdebase"?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# apt-get install kdebase
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
kdebase is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 3 not upgraded.

 ...
Brought to you by jEdit ...Which rocks massively.




Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-25 Thread Nathaniel W. Turner
On Monday 12 July 2004 10:47 pm, Nick Boyce wrote:
> I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
> the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
> download.kde.org.
>
> My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
> upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
> I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
>
> If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
> I get totally scary output for both cases.

What output do you get if you just run "apt-get install kdebase"?

> Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
> aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
> results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.

In my experience, aptitude has its own set of problems.  Alas, nothing is 
perfect.

Cheers,
nate

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Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-25 Thread Nick Boyce
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:47:36 +0100, I wrote:

>I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
>the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
>download.kde.org.
>
>My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
>upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
>I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
[...]
>As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
>some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).
>
>On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
>_remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
>... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
>ssh, gcc, etc., etc.

Two things :

1)  It turns out I'm not the only one with this problem - two other
people have mailed me off list to say this affects them too, and to
ask if I've found a solution yet.

2)  I'm trying to move this forward by attempting to downgrade my
XFree86 4.2.1 (from www.backports.org) to the V4.1.0 that comes with
vanilla Woody - however, that isn't looking very easy at all - I
haven't actually done it yet, but simulations with various apt
commands are not offering to do what I want at all ... See my post on
this list today :
  Subject "How To Downgrade XFree86 From 4.2.1 to 4.1.0 ?"
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/07/msg00198.html

Anyway, thanks for everyone's feedback so far.

Nick Boyce
Bristol, UK
-- 
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will find a way around the laws.




Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-13 Thread Nathaniel W. Turner
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On Tuesday 13 July 2004 09:51 pm, Nick Boyce wrote:
> Maybe it would pay me to downgrade back to Woody's XFree86 4.1.0-16
> first, and then try the KDE upgrade ...

Yes, that's likely your problem right there.

You say you use Woody to avoid wrangling sid, but it seems you're not actually 
using Woody, but rather a mix, and from what I have heard over the years and 
in my own experience, this is going to involve far more wrangling than simply 
using a pure sid system.  YMMV though.

Cheers,
nate

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Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-13 Thread Nick Boyce
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:15:09 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/index.html

Well .. yeah, and thanks for the suggestion, but I really don't have
the disk space for that ... and anyway, part of my intention was to
contribute by validating the upgrade path using the binaries provided
by our trusty band of volunteers.  It would be a shame if all that
effort were put into making the binary debs but nobody could use them.

Still .. it seems _I_ might be the only one who can't use them :-{

Cheers

Nick Boyce
Bristol, UK
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Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-13 Thread Nick Boyce
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:49:19 +0530 (IST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>i upograded from kde 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 last nite using synaptic on
>woody..it went like a dream with not a single
>problem!.

Hmm ... which XFree86 did you start with ?

Maybe it would pay me to downgrade back to Woody's XFree86 4.1.0-16
first, and then try the KDE upgrade ...

>i would strongly recommend you to use synaptic instead of apt-get as it is
>much better at handling dependencies etc..

[sigh] so we keep being told here ... despite apt-get being touted as
the Debian wonder tool in many other Debian docs.  If this is really
true then there's a major docs update job to be done ...

I've tried both synaptic and aptitude, and preferred aptitude's
interface.

Thanks

Nick Boyce
Bristol, UK
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Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-13 Thread ricktaylor
http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/index.html

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 05:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming
> 
> Hi,
> i upograded from kde 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 last nite using synaptic on
> woody..it went like a dream with not a single
> problem!.
> i would strongly recommend you to use synaptic instead of apt-get as it is
> much better at handling dependencies etc..
> abhishek.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I just did a 3.1.3 upgrade to 3.2.3 (sic) and the only thing that failed
> > was postgresql, but I played a lot.  However, the following packages
> > were kept back.
> > Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > The following packages have been kept back
> >   cervisia debconf kappfinder kate kbabel kbugbuster kcalc kcontrol
> > kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data
> > kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdeprint kdesdk kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesdk-misc
> > kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmail kmenuedit kompare
> > konqueror  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver
> > ksnapshot ksplash kspy ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libarts1
> > libarts1-dev libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libpaperg libqt3-headers
> > libqt3-mt-dev poxml qt3-dev-tools xbase-clients xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa3
> > xlibs xlibs-dev0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and
> > 54  not upgraded.
> >
> > apt-get install libxcursor1 got me to the next step, as it now depends
> > on different packages, however this still wasn't a new enough version
> > according to apt-get.
> > "ksplash: Depends: libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2) but 1.0.2-1woody2 is to be
> > installed"
> > This would stop the meek and timid from using apt-get, although it
> > SHOULD work that easy, but remember this is not standard Debian tree
> > stuff.  I suggest that we get that dependency taken care of before you
> > try it. Andreas?
> >
> > However, I notice you using backports, so it might be different, but I
> > see no libxcursor there so I expect the same results for you.
> >
> >> I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
> >> the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
> >> download.kde.org.
> >>
> >> My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
> >> upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
> >> I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
> >>
> >> If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
> >> I get totally scary output for both cases.
> >>
> >> Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
> >> aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
> >> results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.
> >>
> >> As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
> >> some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).
> >>
> >> On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
> >> _remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
> >> ... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
> >> ssh, gcc, etc., etc.
> >>
> >> Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
> >> badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?
> >>
> >> < cut >=
> >> # aptitude -s upgrade
> >> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
> >> Package Lists... Done
> >> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
> >> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
> >> Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
> >> The following packages have been kept back:
> >>  ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder
> >> kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style
> >> kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin
> >> kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
> >>  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
> >>  kdesktop
> >>  kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget 

Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-13 Thread rawat
Hi,
i upograded from kde 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 last nite using synaptic on
woody..it went like a dream with not a single
problem!.
i would strongly recommend you to use synaptic instead of apt-get as it is
much better at handling dependencies etc..
abhishek.





> I just did a 3.1.3 upgrade to 3.2.3 (sic) and the only thing that failed
> was postgresql, but I played a lot.  However, the following packages
> were kept back.
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages have been kept back
>   cervisia debconf kappfinder kate kbabel kbugbuster kcalc kcontrol
> kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data
> kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdeprint kdesdk kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesdk-misc
> kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmail kmenuedit kompare
> konqueror  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver
> ksnapshot ksplash kspy ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libarts1
> libarts1-dev libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libpaperg libqt3-headers
> libqt3-mt-dev poxml qt3-dev-tools xbase-clients xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa3
> xlibs xlibs-dev0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and
> 54  not upgraded.
>
> apt-get install libxcursor1 got me to the next step, as it now depends
> on different packages, however this still wasn't a new enough version
> according to apt-get.
> "ksplash: Depends: libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2) but 1.0.2-1woody2 is to be
> installed"
> This would stop the meek and timid from using apt-get, although it
> SHOULD work that easy, but remember this is not standard Debian tree
> stuff.  I suggest that we get that dependency taken care of before you
> try it. Andreas?
>
> However, I notice you using backports, so it might be different, but I
> see no libxcursor there so I expect the same results for you.
>
>> I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
>> the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
>> download.kde.org.
>>
>> My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
>> upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
>> I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
>>
>> If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
>> I get totally scary output for both cases.
>>
>> Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
>> aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
>> results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.
>>
>> As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
>> some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).
>>
>> On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
>> _remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
>> ... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
>> ssh, gcc, etc., etc.
>>
>> Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
>> badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?
>>
>> < cut >=
>> # aptitude -s upgrade
>> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
>> Package Lists... Done
>> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
>> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
>> Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>  ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder
>> kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style
>> kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin
>> kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
>>  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
>>  kdesktop
>>  kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter kicker
>> klipper
>>  kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid kmix knode knotes konqueror
>>  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kpackage kpager kpersonalizer kppp
>> krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd
>> ksysv
>>  ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
>> libarts1-xine libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libnspr4 libnss3
>> libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev mozilla-browser mozilla-psm
>> mpeglib noatun qt3-dev-tools quanta snmp x-window-system-core
>>  xbase-clients xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs
>>  xlibs-dev
>>  xterm
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs4-doc
>> lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 libfreetype6
>>  libfreetype6-dev
>>  libmimelib1 libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2
>>  libxslt1
>>  proxymngr twm x-window-system xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
>>  xfonts-base
>>  xfonts-konsole xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev
>> xnest
>>  xprt xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xspecs xutils xvfb
>> 38 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to re

Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-13 Thread michael
I just did a 3.1.3 upgrade to 3.2.3 (sic) and the only thing that failed
was postgresql, but I played a lot.  However, the following packages were
kept back.
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  cervisia debconf kappfinder kate kbabel kbugbuster kcalc kcontrol kdebase
  kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4
  kdelibs4-dev kdeprint kdesdk kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesktop
  kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmail kmenuedit kompare konqueror  
konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver ksnapshot
  ksplash kspy ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-dev
  libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev poxml
  qt3-dev-tools xbase-clients xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs xlibs-dev0 packages 
upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 54  not upgraded.

apt-get install libxcursor1 got me to the next step, as it now depends on
different packages, however this still wasn't a new enough version
according to apt-get.
"ksplash: Depends: libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2) but 1.0.2-1woody2 is to be
installed"
This would stop the meek and timid from using apt-get, although it SHOULD
work that easy, but remember this is not standard Debian tree stuff.  I
suggest that we get that dependency taken care of before you try it.
Andreas?

However, I notice you using backports, so it might be different, but I see
no libxcursor there so I expect the same results for you.

> I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
> the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
> download.kde.org.
>
> My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
> upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
> I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
>
> If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
> I get totally scary output for both cases.
>
> Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
> aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
> results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.
>
> As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
> some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).
>
> On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
> _remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
> ... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig, ssh,
> gcc, etc., etc.
>
> Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
> badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?
>
> < cut >=
> # aptitude -s upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
> Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
> Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages have been kept back:
>  ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder
>  kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style
>  kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin
>  kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
>  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
>  kdesktop
>  kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter kicker
>  klipper
>  kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid kmix knode knotes konqueror
>  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kpackage kpager kpersonalizer kppp
>  krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd
>  ksysv
>  ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
>  libarts1-xine libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libnspr4 libnss3
>  libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev mozilla-browser mozilla-psm
>  mpeglib noatun qt3-dev-tools quanta snmp x-window-system-core
>  xbase-clients xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs
>  xlibs-dev
>  xterm
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs4-doc
>  lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 libfreetype6
>  libfreetype6-dev
>  libmimelib1 libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2
>  libxslt1
>  proxymngr twm x-window-system xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
>  xfonts-base
>  xfonts-konsole xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev
>  xnest
>  xprt xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xspecs xutils xvfb
> 38 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 91 not
> upgraded.
> Need to get 54.4MB of archives. After unpacking 43.2MB will be used. Do
> you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.
>
> # aptitude -s dist-upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
> Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependenc

apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming

2004-07-12 Thread Nick Boyce
I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
download.kde.org.

My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.

If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
I get totally scary output for both cases.

Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.

As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).

On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
_remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
ssh, gcc, etc., etc.

Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?

< cut >=
# aptitude -s upgrade
Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder 
  kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style 
  kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin 
  kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia 
  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
  kdesktop 
  kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter kicker
  klipper 
  kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid kmix knode knotes konqueror 
  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kpackage kpager kpersonalizer
  kppp 
  krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd
  ksysv 
  ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib 
  libarts1-xine libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libnspr4 libnss3 
  libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev mozilla-browser mozilla-psm 
  mpeglib noatun qt3-dev-tools quanta snmp x-window-system-core 
  xbase-clients xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs
  xlibs-dev 
  xterm 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs4-doc 
  lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 libfreetype6
  libfreetype6-dev 
  libmimelib1 libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2
  libxslt1 
  proxymngr twm x-window-system xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
  xfonts-base 
  xfonts-konsole xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev
  xnest 
  xprt xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xspecs xutils xvfb 
38 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 91 not
upgraded.
Need to get 54.4MB of archives. After unpacking 43.2MB will be used.
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# aptitude -s dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
Dependency Tree... 84%Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
  libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu 
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
  abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts 
  artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
  console-data 
  console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
  fetchmail-common 
  freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data 
  gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
  ipmenu 
  iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
  kate 
  kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
  kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia 
  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs 
  kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package 
  kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
  khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
  kmidi 
  kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror 
  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager 
  kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
  ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
  leafnode 
  less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib 
  libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin