Re: assorted problems: Debian potato + KDE 2.0.1
Patrick Goetz wrote:- 6. One of the features of CDE is that the user can save the current desktop state at any point, so that this precise state restored when he/she logs in again. Is there any way to do this in KDE without logging out and clicking save current session? Furthermore, CDE is able to restart netscape; KDE will only, as far as I can tell, restart konsoles, which has limited utility. Is there any way to have some set of applications (not necessarily konsoles or KDE apps) which start automatically when the user logs in? And John Gay replied:- KDE will usually re-start KDE-aware apps. Netscape is not KDE-aware. I know that StarOffice will re-start automatically. StarOffice 'can' access the web, but does seem to lack some functionality compared to Netscape. It is also much too resource-hungry IMHO to use in place of Netscape. Konqueror should re-start as well and seems to have more functionality than StarOffice as far as web browsing goes. Konqueror also seems more stable than Netscape, though I've only used it for a few weeks. I tried Netscape6 recently and it does seem better than 4.75 but Konqueror might be better for your applications. I haven't used KDE2 for very long so my experience is limited, but I hope this is helpful. Cheers, John Gay
assorted problems: Debian potato + KDE 2.0.1
Hi, everyone. I recently installed KDE 2.0.1 on a couple of Debian potato system using the command: apt-get -f install task-kde I'm having a number of problems which are described below. I'm not sure that this is the correct list to direct any or all of these questions to, but I would appreciate hints regarding whom the questions should be sent to. We also have KDE 2.0 installed on a number of Slackware machines. Some of the problems I'm experiencing with Debian/KDE 2.0.1 are NOT a problem on the Slackware/2.0 machines as noted below. 1. All of our user passwords are maintained on an old Sun OS NIS server with shadow passwords enabled. When I use the KDE lock screen, my password won't authenticate me (i.e. I get an incorrect password message). To add insult to injury, the KDE lock screen is not compiled or configured to always authenticate the root password (as xlock does), which is local. To add further insult to injury, when I -- to kill the lock process, there is no identifiable process to kill. I basically ended up having to abort my entire session to get out of the screen lock. Note that this is NOT a problem on the Slackware/2.0 machines -- my password authenticates normally. (I didn't test to see if the root password authenticates.) 2. kmail doesn't work, at least not when configured to use a local mail server. First, when started, various of what appear to be debugging messages appear on the console: ::jScriptEnabled: so: 0, sf: 0, se: 0 repeated several times. After configuring it to use the local mail spool, no messages ever show up in the inbox. Again, this works fine on the Slakeware/2.0 systems, although I'd love to know how to turn the really annoying notification receipt off. 3. kicker dies periodically. On a regular basis (say once every couple of days), when I launch a konsole from kicker, the entire kicker panel just disappears. I can then restart it from a konsole, but it doesn't really work any more; i.e. you can't launch any applications from it. The only fix seems to be to log out (using --). Needless to say, this is a pain when I'm logged in to 8-10 different systems with 4-5 netscape windows up. I don't know if the same happens on the Slackware systems, since I don't use them myself, but certainly no user has complained yet. 4. Inexplicably, scrolling in Netscape (4.76) will slow to a crawl. When I restart using fvwm2 or some such and go to the same page, there is no problem. The rest of my stuff is more along the lines of questions. In particular, I have a few Solaris users who are used to using CDE desktop. I'm really tired of supporting Solaris on the desktop and am trying to convince them to switch to KDE on a PC; unfortunately, some feature they consider to be critical seem to be missing. 5. It doesn't seem to be possible to mount a CD in Konquerer -- I tried for a while and then gave up, running mount /cdrom from a konsole (after which the files do appear in Konquerer). However, then the only way to unmount the CD again is to completely quit out of Konquerer, since looking at the files on the CD from Konqueror seems to make them perpetually "in use". This is way too complicated for most users, IMHO. 6. One of the features of CDE is that the user can save the current desktop state at any point, so that this precise state restored when he/she logs in again. Is there any way to do this in KDE without logging out and clicking save current session? Furthermore, CDE is able to restart netscape; KDE will only, as far as I can tell, restart konsoles, which has limited utility. Is there any way to have some set of applications (not necessarily konsoles or KDE apps) which start automatically when the user logs in? 7. One of my users likes to keep the icons for links to papers he is working on on his desktop; this seems to work by dragging the file from Konqueror to the desktop. Unfortunately, he wants to be able to have different file icons on different virtual desktops (corresponding to different project groups, for example). This, as far as I can tell, is not possible; i.e. all the desktop icons are contained in the root window and can not be associated with any particular virtual desktop. Is there any way to make this work? Admittedly, this could be a sticky issue if the user decides, for example, to change the number of virtual desktops, but this feature is available in CDE, hence the complaints. --- finally... I've been following this list since about mid-December, and at the moment I'm somewhat confused about what precisely is going on with Debian KDE. Are the 2.0.1 packages still being maintained or is all the effort going towards the 2.1 beta packages? A short orientation readme (including some instructions on how to install what) would be very helpful. Thanks, and sorry for the long (perhaps off-topic) post.
KDE 2.0.1 debian package: wrong charset
Hi, I yesterday installed the complete debian KDE 2.0.1 packeges and after restarting KDE the german special characters weren't like I expected anymore, say: each of them consisted of two characters, none of which was the correct one. So I re-installed the kde-i18n-de package and it told me there was a conflict with another package (name forgotten) which also owned the file /usr/share/locale/de/charset. So I looked into that file and found the word "utf8" in it. As there had been two characters diplayed for each german special one I thought this could be some unicode 16bit thingie and - right! - i changed utf8 to utf16. Now everything's just fine. =8) btw, as i tried to install the whole kde-i18n stuff I found some conflicts (eg kde-i18n-pl doesn't like kde-i18n and other packets required by kde-i18n weren't there) yours Sönke ^ | =;) -- Ping Netzwerksysteme GmbH - Sönke von Stamm Lavesstr. 80, 30159 Hannover, http://www.pingworld.net Fon: 0511-35 39 94-0 - Fax: 0511-35 39 94-30
Re: ANNOUNCE: KDE 2.0.1 released (fwd)
> Some of these binary packages for KDE > 2.0.1 will be available for free download under > http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.0.1/distribution/ or under the equivalent > directory at one of the many KDE ftp server mirrors. Please note that the > > *** ...why are .debs not included in the "Some"?... they have in the past...but I chose not to this time because it's near impossible for me to maintain those files and I end up dealing with a ton of bug reports on packages that are so far out of date it's pathetic. > *** ...since Debian's KDE may also require stuff not in Debian, would > *** you need to upload all the related packages to KDE's site?... yes > *** ...Debian should be in the above list!, something like... > > * Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (i386), Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (powerpc), Debian >GNU/Linux 2.1 (sparc), Debian GNU/Linux "Woody" (i386), Debian >GNU/Linux "Woody" (powerpc), Debian GNU/Linux "Woody" (sparc) > > *** ...or would including Woody be inappropriate? it should be, but hasn't for whatever reasons... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
ANNOUNCE: KDE 2.0.1 released (fwd)
*** ... continuing with the "why aren't you mirrored more" thread *** (sorry for the break). *** Ivan, Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:05:06 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Konold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ANNOUNCE: KDE 2.0.1 released http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-2.0.1.html *** <...> Some distributors choose to provide binary packages of KDE for certain versions of their distribution. *** ...that's you/Debian for Potato/Woody, ya... Some of these binary packages for KDE 2.0.1 will be available for free download under http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.0.1/distribution/ or under the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server mirrors. Please note that the *** ...why are .debs not included in the "Some"?... KDE team is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third parties -- typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant distribution. *** ...sounds like they will take binaries from those they kinda trust, *** individual or organization... KDE 2.0.1 requires qt-2.2.1, the free version of which is available from the above locations usually under the name qt-x11-2.2.1, although qt-2.2.2 is recommended. KDE 2.0.1 will not work with versions of Qt older than 2.2.1. *** ...since Debian's KDE may also require stuff not in Debian, would *** you need to upload all the related packages to KDE's site?... At the time of this release, pre-compiled packages are available for: * Linux-Mandrake 7.2 * RedHat Linux 7.0 (i386), RedHat Linux 7.0 (Alpha), RedHat Linux 7.0 (Sparc), RedHat Linux 6.x (i386), RedHat Linux 6.x (Alpha) and RedHat Linux 6.x (Sparc) * SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386), SuSE Linux 7.0 (Sparc) and SuSE Linux 6.4 (i386) * Tru64 Systems *** ...Debian should be in the above list!, something like... * Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (i386), Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (powerpc), Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 (sparc), Debian GNU/Linux "Woody" (i386), Debian GNU/Linux "Woody" (powerpc), Debian GNU/Linux "Woody" (sparc) *** ...or would including Woody be inappropriate? - Bruce
sound fixed on kde 2.0.1 !!
I have a Yamaha on-board sound card (ymf740c) and use the alsa drivers. With version 2.0 kf kde, the kde2-enabled sound was garbled. The new version 2.0.1 fixes this problem with special configuration for the yamaha "cards". My sound now works great! -- /--\ |James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D.|Phone: (865)576-8645 | | L | A | |Oak Ridge National Laboratory |FAX:(865)574-9172 | H | I | L | |Research Reactors Division|work e-m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | P | |P. O. Box 2008|home [EMAIL PROTECTED]| I | U | H | |Oak Ridge, TN. 37831-6392 |world's best neutrons | R | X | A | \--/
kde 2.0.1
Hi, If there is someone interested in creating m68k potato packages of the upcoming KDE 2.0.1 please contact me. It would be nice to have all available archs (that KDE builds on) ready to go when it's officially released. Currently we have the following being built: i386 sparc powerpc I only know of m68k working for potato...if there are any other archs that do work and someone's willing to create packages please contact me and I will get you access to the software. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde 2.0.1 vs 2.1
Ivan, I really appreciate your hard hours on this project! I have been absolutely amazed at how many apps have been updated since the new maintainers came aboard. I know you really have your hands full! Seems like kde is almost a daily update/upgrade - do you ever sleep?! woody stable in Feb??? Snort grin snort snort sure :) Thank you again. Best regards On Saturday 25 November 2000 05:29, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > Hi all, > > There's going to be a big split between potato and woody soon. After > KDE 2.0.1 is released I'm going to update woody to KDE 2.1 (which will > be in beta on the 18th of December if they keep on schedule). I'm doing > this for a couple reasons: > > 1: The current guestimates for woody's release is sometime in Feb. >(tho I don't think anyone is sure yet of anything) > 2: The current guestimates for KDE 2.1's release is in January/Feb. > 3: Need to start helping with bug finding/squashing/testing/tweaking >so that 2.1's release is smooth. > > I'm not planning on doing this for potato as potato is supposed to be > stable. :) I may however put out some testing debs in another location > once I get a feel for the stability of it all... > > Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
kde 2.0.1 vs 2.1
Hi all, There's going to be a big split between potato and woody soon. After KDE 2.0.1 is released I'm going to update woody to KDE 2.1 (which will be in beta on the 18th of December if they keep on schedule). I'm doing this for a couple reasons: 1: The current guestimates for woody's release is sometime in Feb. (tho I don't think anyone is sure yet of anything) 2: The current guestimates for KDE 2.1's release is in January/Feb. 3: Need to start helping with bug finding/squashing/testing/tweaking so that 2.1's release is smooth. I'm not planning on doing this for potato as potato is supposed to be stable. :) I may however put out some testing debs in another location once I get a feel for the stability of it all... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
