Re: KDE 3.0.x deb's incompatible with unstable libqt (2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1)
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 08:41:26PM +1100, Mark Purcell scrawled: > Package: kdelibs-bin > Version: 4:3.0.4-1 > Severity: grave > > It would appear that the KDE 3.0.4 debs on download.kde.org are incompatible > with the just uploaded libQt qt-x11-free (2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1) > > In short if you are running the KDE 3.0.x Debs from download.kde.org > hang off upgrading your qt stuff othewise when you try to start KDE/KDM > you will receive a nice error message saying there is a problem loading > kdeinit. This also means that KDE 3.0.x debs are now incompatible with the > unstable distribution. I guess that's why it's called unstable... That's because KDE 3.0 will never, ever, form part of the unstable distribution, whereas KDE 3.1 is. Hence, unstable is being prepared for the smooth entry of KDE 3.1. One of these steps is obviously getting Qt 3.1 into the archive. close -1 thanks -- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Developer - http://kopete.kde.org, http://www.kde.org pgpdHWTXC8RZi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Correction: KDE 3.0.x incompatible with libfontconfig1=2.1-8 Re: KDE 3.0.x deb's incompatible with unstable libqt (2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1)
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 08:41:26PM +1100, Mark Purcell wrote: > Package: kdelibs-bin > Version: 4:3.0.4-1 > Severity: grave > > It would appear that the KDE 3.0.4 debs on download.kde.org are incompatible > with the just uploaded libQt qt-x11-free (2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1) Correction. The incompatibility is between KDE 3.0.4 debs and libfontconf1=2.1-8 and has been reported as a critical bug and a fix is pending upload at #173900. In short don't download libfontconfig1=2.1-8, either stick/ downgrade to libconfig1=2.1-7 or wait until -9 gets uploaded by the maintainer. Mark
KDE 3.0.x deb's incompatible with unstable libqt (2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1)
Package: kdelibs-bin Version: 4:3.0.4-1 Severity: grave It would appear that the KDE 3.0.4 debs on download.kde.org are incompatible with the just uploaded libQt qt-x11-free (2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-1) In short if you are running the KDE 3.0.x Debs from download.kde.org hang off upgrading your qt stuff othewise when you try to start KDE/KDM you will receive a nice error message saying there is a problem loading kdeinit. This also means that KDE 3.0.x debs are now incompatible with the unstable distribution. I guess that's why it's called unstable... Details below: $ ldd /usr/bin/kdeinit libDCOP.so.4 => /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4 (0x4002) libkparts.so.2 => /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2 (0x4004d000) libkio.so.4 => /usr/lib/libkio.so.4 (0x4007d000) libkdeui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4 (0x4028a000) libkdefx.so.4 => /usr/lib/libkdefx.so.4 (0x4044d000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40471000) libkdesu.so.4 => /usr/lib/libkdesu.so.4 (0x40476000) libkdecore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 (0x4049) libfam.so.0 => /usr/lib/libfam.so.0 (0x405c3000) libqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0x405cc000) libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x40b9d000) libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40bca000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40bd8000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40c93000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40c9b000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40cb1000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40d0) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40d03000) libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x40d1) libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 (0x40d21000) libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x40d6a000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40d6d000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40d8e000) libaudio.so.2 => /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x40e9e000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40eb3000) libmng.so.1 => /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0x40efd000) libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40f3f000) libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x40f5d000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40fc3000) libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40fd7000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40fe8000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) liblcms.so.1 => /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 (0x4103a000) libfontconfig.so.1 => not found /var/log/kdm.log: Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/highcolor.so: Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! expected build key "i686 Linux g++-2.95.* full-config", got "g++-2.95.* full-config". Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/light.so: Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! expected build key "i686 Linux g++-2.95.* full-config", got "g++-2.95.* full-config". Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/kthemestyle.so: Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! expected build key "i686 Linux g++-2.95.* full-config", got "g++-2.95.* full-config". Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/highcolor.so: Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! expected build key "i686 Linux g++-2.95.* full-config", got "g++-2.95.* full-config". Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/light.so: Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! expected build key "i686 Linux g++-2.95.* full-config", got "g++-2.95.* full-config". Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/kthemestyle.so: Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! expected build key "i686 Linux g++-2.95.* full-config", got "g++-2.95.* full-config". Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! /usr/bin/kdm_greet: error while loading shared libraries: libfontconfig.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux htpc 2.5.50 #5 Fri Dec 6 21:18:33 EST 2002 i686 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C Versions of packages kdelibs-bin depends on: ii kdelibs4 4:3.0.4-1 KDE core libraries ii libarts1 1.0.4-1aRts Sound system ii libarts1-qt 1.0.4-1aRts Sound system (qt/x11 support ii libasound20.9.0rc6-1 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ii libaudiofile0 0.2.3-4The Audiofile Library ii libbz2-1.01.0.2-1A high-quality block-sorting file ii libc6 2.3.1-6GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libcupsys21.1.18-1 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - ii libfam0
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
> fredagen den 1 november 2002 21.19 skrev Michael Hoodes: >> I don't know if that is the solution to the Konqueror pause problem . >> and there are people with IPV6 who would not be too happy if it was >> turned off! Is it possible to make IPV6 a setting option in >> Konqueror? On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:33:03 +0100, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > Actually, KDE has three modes when it comes to IPV6. > 1) No IPv6 > 2) always IPv6 > 3) check if IPv6 is available (in the kernel) before using it. > So the solution appears to be the automatic mode. For those who does > not want IPv6, the driver is just removed from the kernel (it is > loadable, isn't it?) and KDE won't use it. That has been my point! My Kernel is compiled without IPv6 for a long time so I do not understand how KDE was issuing IPv6 calls to cause the Konqueror pause. I suspect it is doubleclick.net at high network traffic times that causes the pause. When Konqueror pauses, both Opera and Mozilla can access the page(s) without pausing. -- Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
fredagen den 1 november 2002 21.19 skrev Michael Hoodes: > I don't know if that is the solution to the Konqueror pause problem and > there are people with IPV6 who would not be too happy if it was turned > off! Is it possible to make IPV6 a setting option in Konqueror? Actually, KDE has three modes when it comes to IPV6. 1) No IPv6 2) always IPv6 3) check if IPv6 is available (in the kernel) before using it. So the solution appears to be the automatic mode. For those who does not want IPv6, the driver is just removed from the kernel (it is loadable, isn't it?) and KDE won't use it. -- Karolina
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
onsdagen den 30 oktober 2002 23.09 skrev Michael Hoodes: > I am using the karolina debs and kdelibs have been split up. I don't > know where to find the source and what "split" contains the IPV6 > call. I have a relatively slow machine and generally don't compile > KDE for that reason. On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:19:04 +0100 Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > I already have IPV6 turned off in kdelibs. I don't know if that is the solution to the Konqueror pause problem and there are people with IPV6 who would not be too happy if it was turned off! Is it possible to make IPV6 a setting option in Konqueror? Would I be able to install your kdelibs (w/o IPV6) on my karolina kde 3.1 Beta-2 from wh9.tu-dresden.de or will I get into trouble? I'd like to test it to see if the pause I'm getting is IPV6. Michael -- ___ Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
I'll accept that the Konqueror pauses are doubleclick.net and sure we could try to deny it (Nathaniel and UDO on the 31st in this list) with dns or /etc/hosts but the fact remains that both Netscape and Opera deal with the doubleclick response without waiting for it. I don't know if Konqueror can do that easily but that would be the solution. I think Konqueror was OK back in KDE 2.2 (response on NYT pages was the same as Netscape, Mozilla and Opera) but it's possible that doubleclick has been added to NYT or doubleclick has changed it's evil ways. -- ___ Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
onsdagen den 30 oktober 2002 23.09 skrev Michael Hoodes: > I am using the karolina debs and kdelibs have been split up. I don't > know where to find the source and what "split" contains the IPV6 > call. I have a relatively slow machine and generally don't compile KDE > for that reason. I already have IPV6 turned off in kdelibs. -- Karolina
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
Am Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2002 20:48 schrieb Nathaniel W. Turner:
> The best workaround I've come up with is to put:
> -8<-
> zone "doubleclick.net" {
> type master;
Poor mans (without bind) solution from www.smartin-designs.com/hosts_info.htm:
| # Doubleclick (Netgravity)
|
| 127.0.0.1 ad.ae.doubleclick.net
| 127.0.0.1 ad.ar.doubleclick.net
| ...
placed in /etc/hosts.
There is a several hundred KB hosts file on that URL
--
Udo Burghardt
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
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On Thursday 31 October 2002 02:17 pm, Todd Charron wrote:
> do you know for sure what part of it is causing the problem?
I'm now quite sure that it's doubleclick.net's DNS servers. A "traceroute6
www.google.com" fails right away, but "traceroute6 ad.de.doubleclick.net"
sits for about 28 seconds before timing out. Same for
ad.{us,fr}.doubleclick.net. This is the server that is referenced in the
script element on that page.
This is essentially in line with what the other fellow said a while back
(sorry, don't have the message handy).
The problem is that every fscking website except Google and kuroshin.org have
these stupid banner ads from doubleclick.net at the top of the page.
The best workaround I've come up with is to put:
- -8<-
zone "doubleclick.net" {
type master;
file "/etc/bind/db.blackhole";
allow-query { any; };
};
- -8<---
in my /etc/bind/named.conf and
- --8<-
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in /etc/bind/db.blackhole. Hehe. This probably isn't something we can
distribute with KDE though (Would be nice.. ;-)
- --
Nathaniel W. Turner
http://www.houseofnate.net/
Tel: +1 508 579 1948 (mobile)
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Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
I would say that it's a fairly serious problem. People who regularly browse to these sites (and they seem to be very popular ones) aren't going to use konqueror if they can bring it up much quicker in another browser... do you know for sure what part of it is causing the problem? Todd On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 14:06, Nathaniel W. Turner wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I made a simple testcase for this "bug" at > http://www.houseofnate.net/~nturner/slowloadingkonq/testcase3.html > It seems a certain bit of markup commonly used to insert banner ads triggers > this behavior. > > Whatever the cause (buggy dns servers or otherwise), it seems that konqueror > blocks while loading the external script stuff in the banner ad markup, and > doesn't even try to render the rest of the page while its waiting. I would > guess this has to do with the funky javascript involved (just a guess > though). > > Should a bug be filed? > > - -- > Nathaniel W. Turner > http://www.houseofnate.net/ > Tel: +1 508 579 1948 (mobile) > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE9wX8w25cAeUrFyDIRAp48AJ4qCR+EIT44ZrBwRvIw0WC5qu90MQCfXJii > n3eU6/AfVExGPpkO5ksIcRs= > =4wVY > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I made a simple testcase for this "bug" at http://www.houseofnate.net/~nturner/slowloadingkonq/testcase3.html It seems a certain bit of markup commonly used to insert banner ads triggers this behavior. Whatever the cause (buggy dns servers or otherwise), it seems that konqueror blocks while loading the external script stuff in the banner ad markup, and doesn't even try to render the rest of the page while its waiting. I would guess this has to do with the funky javascript involved (just a guess though). Should a bug be filed? - -- Nathaniel W. Turner http://www.houseofnate.net/ Tel: +1 508 579 1948 (mobile) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9wX8w25cAeUrFyDIRAp48AJ4qCR+EIT44ZrBwRvIw0WC5qu90MQCfXJii n3eU6/AfVExGPpkO5ksIcRs= =4wVY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
On Thursday 31 October 2002 at 12:38 am, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:09:57PM -0800, Michael Hoodes scrawled: > > Let's hope official KDE 3.1 will fix the problem. Is there any > > way I can be insured of that? > > > > What confuses me, is how can KDE make an IPV6 call when I > > specifically compiled my kernel without IPV6? Comment has been made in this list that IPv6 dns calls can be made w/o IPv6 in the kernel. Is that correct? Or should I compile the kernel with IPv6 support? > Sounds like a problem lower down than KDE. If it makes an IPv6 call, > which times out rather than being rejected immediately with an error, > that is clearly a bug *outside* *of* *KDE*. The comment about "rejected" was an assumption by myself. I didn't see such an error. It could be an error outside of "Debian" but since I see the pause problem within Konqueror isn't it within KDE?. > Recompiling the debs without IPv6 support is not an option, because > of the popularity of IPv6. Double-check, with stuff like route -A > inet6, and ifconfig, that you really don't have IPv6 support. If you > don't, then there's a deeper problem outside of KDE. I did check and route -A inet6 gives /proc/net/ipv6_route: No such file or directory and /proc/net/ipv6_route:, NET6 (IPv6) not configured in this system. I stand corrected. The debs w/o IPv6 is not an option. You commented to another post here - "It could be Java". No it's not Java ... I don't see Java in my task list or any other "strange" executing programs when konqueror is pausing. There are several (more than a few) xsession errors like kio (kioslave): WARNING: SlaveBase::checkCached... but that's fairly normal. Supposedly the problem of the konqueror pause has been fixed by removal of IPv6 from kdelibs. (from earlier postings on this list). Is this coincidental? Does the konqueror pause occur on other releases - i.e. Redhat, Mandrake,Suse? Michael -- ___ Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:38:17PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:09:57PM -0800, Michael Hoodes scrawled: > > Let's hope official KDE 3.1 will fix the problem. Is there any way I > > can be insured of that? > > > > What confuses me, is how can KDE make an IPV6 call when I specifically > > compiled my kernel without IPV6? > > Sounds like a problem lower down than KDE. If it makes an IPv6 call, > which times out rather than being rejected immediately with an error, > that is clearly a bug *outside* *of* *KDE*. IPv6 support in the kernel is not required to do ipv6 DNS lookups. If there is anywhere beneath KDE it is possible to disable IPv6 it would be in libc, no? I've run into similar ipv6 badness with Mozilla and IE including hostnames which failed to resolve *at all* because of buggy DNS servers all over the 'net. (There are some DNS servers that return NXDOMAIN when queried for a ipv6 addy even when there is an ipv4 record). > Recompiling the debs without IPv6 support is not an option, because of > the popularity of IPv6. Double-check, with stuff like route -A inet6, > and ifconfig, that you really don't have IPv6 support. If you don't, > then there's a deeper problem outside of KDE. Too often, those problems are not on the local machine -- can you be certain this is not one of those cases? -- Joseph Fannin [EMAIL PROTECTED] "For future reference - don't anybody else try to send patches as vi scripts, please. Yes, it's manly, but let's face it, so is bungee-jumping with the cord tied to your testicles." -- Linus Torvalds pgpR3LPEVbqRv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:09:57PM -0800, Michael Hoodes scrawled: > Let's hope official KDE 3.1 will fix the problem. Is there any way I > can be insured of that? > > What confuses me, is how can KDE make an IPV6 call when I specifically > compiled my kernel without IPV6? Sounds like a problem lower down than KDE. If it makes an IPv6 call, which times out rather than being rejected immediately with an error, that is clearly a bug *outside* *of* *KDE*. Recompiling the debs without IPv6 support is not an option, because of the popularity of IPv6. Double-check, with stuff like route -A inet6, and ifconfig, that you really don't have IPv6 support. If you don't, then there's a deeper problem outside of KDE. -- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Developer - http://kopete.kde.org, http://www.kde.org pgpRhaaVCvWg6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:50:18AM -0500, Todd Charron scrawled: > I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you, but I too experience sluggish > browsing on certain sites. Most noticably with www.tsn.ca and > www.nhl.com (check out the left panel on that page, it's hideous!). I > have no idea what causes it but since I'm using 3.0.4 I figured it'd be > fixed in 3.1... Probably Java. -- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Developer - http://kopete.kde.org, http://www.kde.org pgp3MTgFCyE1O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
Roy and Todd, Thanks to the posting by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> it appears that our problem (NY Times, UK Register and NHL) is due to an erroneous IPV6 call that is rejected and/or times out. It is also recommended to recompile kdelibs with IPV6 set to no. It makes a lot of sense, earlier in this list (on the 12th and 13th) several posters indicated the problem went away with 3.08 of konqueror - Self-compiled KDE3.1 beta users are OK. I am using the karolina debs and kdelibs have been split up. I don't know where to find the source and what "split" contains the IPV6 call. I have a relatively slow machine and generally don't compile KDE for that reason. Let's hope official KDE 3.1 will fix the problem. Is there any way I can be insured of that? What confuses me, is how can KDE make an IPV6 call when I specifically compiled my kernel without IPV6? -- ___ Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:27:46AM -0800, Michael Hoodes wrote: > Subject: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2 > > I have been using Konqueror for browsing the NY Times for as long as > it's been possible from early versions of KDE (1.x?, 2.x) and recently > (since 3.0 and now 3.1 Beta 2). I have noticed sluggish behavior that > occurs consistently with the 3.n versions of KDE. It pauses (for more > than 20 seconds to 30-50 seconds) with an image indicator (bottom > left) indicating n/n+1 images and the percentage indicator (bottom > right) showing from 96-99%. Normal acceptable new page display for me > is 2-4 seconds. This slow response occurs during the AM peak (6 AM > Pacific) which pretty much includes the whole United States > wake-up/start of business peak. This occurs on a broadband connection > on either Woody or Sid with a 2.4.17 kernel. I also assume there is an > upstream cache (attbi). I assume that Konqueror pauses when a page > is not in attbi cache. > > Logically the time that this happens (6 AM - 9 AM) explains the > delay. > BUT - When I go to mozilla or Opera at the same time using the same page > of origin, response on new pages is 2-4 seconds. Konqueror at the > same time stays sluggish. I don't know if this is a Debian problem > (that's what I use) or general KDE. > > Is this a known "bug"? I would really dislike going to Mozilla or Opera > for my AM NY Times browsing but will do so if Konqueror remains > sluggish. I've noticed the same thing with The Register at "http://theregister.co.uk"; or "http://theregus.com";. Both of these load much quicker with either Mozilla 1.x or Konqueror 2.2.2. -- Roy Bixler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The University of Chicago Press
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 October 2002 17.50, Todd Charron wrote: It could be the issue with ipv6. It's been mentioned a few weeks ago in this list. The answer is to compile kdelibs without support for ipv6. This is lifted from a posting by Felix Homann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2002-10-13 18.34 - -- Thank you, Gerrit. This was indeed the post i was looking for. In the meantime it's author, Scott Zuk, sent me an email to inform me about the original post and give me some further information. I asked him for permission to put his email here on the list, but since I haven't got a reply by now (it's Sunday, I guess he's got better things to do than reading and replying to email all day!! ) here's an excerpt (I think that's legitimate) telling me how he handles the problem: " I had to fix this myself by recompiling kdelibs. You can download the kdelibs source tarball off the kde mirrors and check the debian/rules file. Look for the place where the option --with-ipv6-lookup=yes is set and change it to no. Recompile kdelibs using dpkg-buildpackage, check the man page for any options you might need and any build depends. You should end up with new debs of kdelibs that you can then install with dpkg. Personally, I have to rebuild kdelibs for every release to get rid of this annoying problem. " I will give this a try. Hopefully this option finds its way into the (semi-)official debs soon. Thank you, Scott. Great help! Felix - - -- BÃrre Gaup, Kiruna, Sweden -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9wCMQAvz3WeWvzrERAj1aAJ9ih+xP7JD1m+QVl3CGjR8mzdlTqQCfRP2Q yGWjp48FMumKTBQ1bpAYrH8= =k3vc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you, but I too experience sluggish browsing on certain sites. Most noticably with www.tsn.ca and www.nhl.com (check out the left panel on that page, it's hideous!). I have no idea what causes it but since I'm using 3.0.4 I figured it'd be fixed in 3.1... Todd On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 11:27, Michael Hoodes wrote: > Subject: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2 > > I have been using Konqueror for browsing the NY Times for as long as > it's been possible from early versions of KDE (1.x?, 2.x) and recently > (since 3.0 and now 3.1 Beta 2). I have noticed sluggish behavior that > occurs consistently with the 3.n versions of KDE. It pauses (for more > than 20 seconds to 30-50 seconds) with an image indicator (bottom > left) indicating n/n+1 images and the percentage indicator (bottom > right) showing from 96-99%. Normal acceptable new page display for me > is 2-4 seconds. This slow response occurs during the AM peak (6 AM > Pacific) which pretty much includes the whole United States > wake-up/start of business peak. This occurs on a broadband connection > on either Woody or Sid with a 2.4.17 kernel. I also assume there is an > upstream cache (attbi). I assume that Konqueror pauses when a page > is not in attbi cache. > > Logically the time that this happens (6 AM - 9 AM) explains the > delay. > BUT - When I go to mozilla or Opera at the same time using the same page > of origin, response on new pages is 2-4 seconds. Konqueror at the > same time stays sluggish. I don't know if this is a Debian problem > (that's what I use) or general KDE. > > Is this a known "bug"? I would really dislike going to Mozilla or Opera > for my AM NY Times browsing but will do so if Konqueror remains > sluggish. > > Michael > -- > ___ > Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2
Subject: Konqueror and NY Times sluggish KDE 3.0 to 3.1 Beta 2 I have been using Konqueror for browsing the NY Times for as long as it's been possible from early versions of KDE (1.x?, 2.x) and recently (since 3.0 and now 3.1 Beta 2). I have noticed sluggish behavior that occurs consistently with the 3.n versions of KDE. It pauses (for more than 20 seconds to 30-50 seconds) with an image indicator (bottom left) indicating n/n+1 images and the percentage indicator (bottom right) showing from 96-99%. Normal acceptable new page display for me is 2-4 seconds. This slow response occurs during the AM peak (6 AM Pacific) which pretty much includes the whole United States wake-up/start of business peak. This occurs on a broadband connection on either Woody or Sid with a 2.4.17 kernel. I also assume there is an upstream cache (attbi). I assume that Konqueror pauses when a page is not in attbi cache. Logically the time that this happens (6 AM - 9 AM) explains the delay. BUT - When I go to mozilla or Opera at the same time using the same page of origin, response on new pages is 2-4 seconds. Konqueror at the same time stays sluggish. I don't know if this is a Debian problem (that's what I use) or general KDE. Is this a known "bug"? I would really dislike going to Mozilla or Opera for my AM NY Times browsing but will do so if Konqueror remains sluggish. Michael -- ___ Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: X resources and kde-3.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hi all, >When I first use kde (2.1) I have notice that all my X resource > setting have no effect (unlike under an ordinary window manager and also > under gnome). Fortunately, after some intensive search I found that > there is a checkbox in the control center under the menu style which > sask whether kde should apply their fint and color to non kde > application. Uncheck this option I can get my X resource setting back > provided that I change the kde startup script to call xrdb to load > all the file in /etc/X11/Xresources. This is not simple but I have to > do only once and I were satisfiied that all my non kde X client behave > exactly as I want. [snip] > I am subscribing to this list specially to get help on this matter. I > would like to know: > > - Is it a problem specicially to kde-3.0 of debian or a problem of > kde-3.0 Well, I have 2 Debian machines running KDE 3.0, and only one of them exhibits the behavior you describe. So, it must not be a problem specific to neither Debian nor KDE. I haven't been able to figure out what causes it, though. -- People said I was dumb, but I proved them!
X resources and kde-3.0
Hi all, When I first use kde (2.1) I have notice that all my X resource setting have no effect (unlike under an ordinary window manager and also under gnome). Fortunately, after some intensive search I found that there is a checkbox in the control center under the menu style which sask whether kde should apply their fint and color to non kde application. Uncheck this option I can get my X resource setting back provided that I change the kde startup script to call xrdb to load all the file in /etc/X11/Xresources. This is not simple but I have to do only once and I were satisfiied that all my non kde X client behave exactly as I want. Now, after upgrading to kde3.0, I have agaion lose all my X resources setting, even that the file .kde/share/config/kdeglobal still contain the line [X11] use resources manager=false legacy of kde2. Also, on the menu style of the control center, there is no longer mention about non kde applications. I cannot admit kde-3.0 to pretend smarter than me and take over all my X setting. All my X clients: emacs, Xemacs, nedit, xfig, xterm, xmbrowser, ... now have an ugly look and have tiny fonts. I am subscribing to this list specially to get help on this matter. I would like to know: - Is it a problem specicially to kde-3.0 of debian or a problem of kde-3.0 - If it is general to kde-3.0, is it a an oversight (a bug) or a new policy of kde to force users to abandon non kde X clients (in which case I would choose to retain my X clients rather than kde). Thank your any info on this matter. -- PHAM Dinh Tuan Antoine | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laboratoire de Modelisation et Calcul | Tel: +33 4 76 51 44 23 BP 53, 38041 Grenoble cedex 9 (France) | Fax: +33 4 76 63 12 63 ---
Re: How to install KDE 3.0?
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:02:02PM +0300, Amir Tal wrote: > > no you dont. > add to your /etc/apt/sources.list : > deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./ > > run apt-get update and then apt-get -s upgrade. you will see whats gonna be > upgraded. > > after that you can run apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the new kde. > i am suggesting you to do this from init 3 (not from X, while kde is running) > Thanks, now it works fine after apt-get install arts kdebase kdelibs4 besause apt-get dist-upgrade wouldn't work (dependency problems). -- Seul a un caractère scientifique ce qui peut être réfuté.Ce qui n'est pas réfutable relève de la magie ou de la mystique. Karl Popper
Re: How to install KDE 3.0?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:50, Julien Louis wrote: > Hello, > I'm sorry for this stupid question but I don't know how to install KDE 3 > on my system. The last time I would install it, I lost all my window > managers, and KDM wouldn't start. Must I purge and remove all my KDE > 2.2.2 packages? The only stupid question is the unasked one? How to install kde3: http://calc.cx/kde.txt http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian http://www.cupis.co.uk/debian/kde3.html Losing window managers... I don't think you lost your other window managers, but if you upgraded to kdm from the kde3 debs, you may have found that your other window managers were not displayed as options in kdm. This was because the early packages did not automatically include your installed wm's in the list (they had to be added manually). I think the newer packages fixed this. If you have any other troubles with kde3, for example kdm not starting (example taken from your email), can you post here (debian-kde) so we can fix it/hlep you, please? I don't believe you have to remove your kde2 packages first, but it has been suggested that one should use aptitude/dselect or similar instead of apt-get to upgrade to kde3. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9YpJCIzuKV+SHX/kRAuq4AKCCHtD742cO9WCzVIknAiQrvxrN3QCfWwn6 8lxLA0ch4CDnejtR79NchCs= =o4Hm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How to install KDE 3.0?
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 21:50, Julien Louis wrote: > Hello, > I'm sorry for this stupid question but I don't know how to install KDE 3 > on my system. The last time I would install it, I lost all my window > managers, and KDM wouldn't start. Must I purge and remove all my KDE > 2.2.2 packages? > Thanks no you dont. add to your /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./ run apt-get update and then apt-get -s upgrade. you will see whats gonna be upgraded. after that you can run apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the new kde. i am suggesting you to do this from init 3 (not from X, while kde is running) -- === Amir Tal Owner, Founder Whatsup, Hebrew Linux Portal Voice:+972-8-9363164 Cell: +972-58-978979 ICQ: 15748705 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.whatsup.org.il ==
How to install KDE 3.0?
Hello, I'm sorry for this stupid question but I don't know how to install KDE 3 on my system. The last time I would install it, I lost all my window managers, and KDM wouldn't start. Must I purge and remove all my KDE 2.2.2 packages? Thanks -- BIBLE - Le plus ancien livre du monde. -- Flaubert, Gustave ; Dictionnaire des idées reçues
koncd or other cd burning software for KDE 3.0.x
Hi, I recently installed unofficial KDE 3.0.2. I found out later that there is no CD burning software anymore. I used to use kreatecd but that has, as I understand it, been replaced by koncd for KDE 3.0.x. Koncd is part of the official kde-multimedia sources but there is no koncd .deb. Is there any particular reason why it is not in the unofficial .debs? Yours, Gerrit Jan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDevelop 2.1.1 for KDE 3.0
I have prepared debs of KDevelop 2.1.1 for KDe 3.0. You can add the following line to your apt sources.list deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan kde3.0/ -- Norman Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG public key available at http://rtfm.dyndns.info/gnupg_key.txt Fingerprint: 1024D/095918D0 807B A7C5 0D7D 81C0 C21F 1D36 775A C806 0959 18D0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote: On 17 Apr 2002, Cloverm wrote: While compiling KDE3, I noticed that after unpacking the source code bz2 files, every one of them has a subfolder called "debian". What is this folder for? Does this mean that I have compile something different for Debian-based systems? make -f debian/rules *t When I tried to generate the package (dpkg-buildpackage under woody) for arts from KDE3 sources, I have some errors... Am I the only one? ;) gcc: gsldatacache.c: No such file or directory -- Cedric Gavage -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 03:03, Ben Burton wrote: > > been kept in sync with the Debian source archive. I hope the current > > Debian KDE people have KDE CVS access and are doing so. > > For my stuff (*) the KDE CVS is all in sync with debian sid, but the KDE3 > branches are in varying states of wellness (still working on KDE3 > packaging). That's great, especially for koffice! > i.e. Expect debian/rules to work for KDE2 but no guarantees for KDE3 until > KDE3 actually hits sid. OK. You can't make guarantees when something's changing on a daily basis... -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
> been kept in sync with the Debian source archive. I hope the current
> Debian KDE people have KDE CVS access and are doing so.
For my stuff (*) the KDE CVS is all in sync with debian sid, but the KDE3
branches are in varying states of wellness (still working on KDE3 packaging).
i.e. Expect debian/rules to work for KDE2 but no guarantees for KDE3 until
KDE3 actually hits sid.
Ben.
[*] kde{sdk, toys, addons, artwork, edu}, koffice
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Re: KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote: > On 17 Apr 2002, Cloverm wrote: > > > While compiling KDE3, I noticed that after unpacking the source code bz2 > > files, every one of them has a subfolder called "debian". What is this > > folder for? Does this mean that I have compile something different for > > Debian-based systems? > > make -f debian/rules That's to say - I haven't tried it for kde3 yet - I'm just saying that's what the debian's folder's for... *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole - Linux & Open Source Solutions http://sourcepole.ch Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
On 17 Apr 2002, Cloverm wrote: > While compiling KDE3, I noticed that after unpacking the source code bz2 > files, every one of them has a subfolder called "debian". What is this > folder for? Does this mean that I have compile something different for > Debian-based systems? make -f debian/rules *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole - Linux & Open Source Solutions http://sourcepole.ch Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:49, Cloverm wrote: > While compiling KDE3, I noticed that after unpacking the source code bz2 > files, every one of them has a subfolder called "debian". What is this > folder for? Does this mean that I have compile something different for > Debian-based systems? The debian directory is there so you can use dpkg-buildpackage to build Debian packages of KDE. Stephen Kulow started putting debian directories in the KDE CVS in 1998, and I continued doing so into 1999, I believe that Ivan continued the same thing while he was the KDE man. After that I'm not sure how well they've been kept in sync with the Debian source archive. I hope the current Debian KDE people have KDE CVS access and are doing so. Otherwise the debian directories may be out of date and have build errors. Putting debian directories in the upstream CVS seems to be regarded as controversial, but everyone who works on KDE seems to like the idea. -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 3.0 debian subfolder
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Re: Trying to build Debian packages for KDE 3.0
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 01:04:06PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:29:22PM -0700, Nick Garnett wrote:
> > Are you building KDE3.0 Debian packages?
>
> I think we need to make debian-kde@lists.debian.org the maintainer of the
> kde package.
It would be better than the QA Group - you probably want the kde
metapackage to be maintained with some care. kdelibs3-crypto too - is
anything happening about #141838? kde{base,libs}-crypto are both
currently listed as orphaned.
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Re: Trying to build Debian packages for KDE 3.0
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:29:22PM -0700, Nick Garnett wrote: > Are you building KDE3.0 Debian packages? I think we need to make debian-kde@lists.debian.org the maintainer of the kde package. In the meantime, http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa-packages/2002/debian-qa-packages-200204/msg00068.html -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
A Dimecres 10 Abril 2002 07:51, MadCoder va escriure: > Do you will published the scripts to debianize KDE3.0 so that every one > could build his own packages, until they come into sid ? I also agree this. Calc where do you publish the kde3 debs? On http://people.debian.org/~ccheney or on the ftp of kde? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
MadCoder wrote: ok, I don't knew it. I tried with the tarballs of the stable release, but they were too old, and had lots of problems. I'll try with the CVS snapshots, just wait one more day (approx.) until the debs are ready - then, CVS should be working too. -Malte #8-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
> I guess KDE3 is the most wanted package in Debian/Sid right now, so I > really hope there are some debs soon. Unofficial debs are really > o.k. Are unoficcial debs really available ? As far as I understood, the maintainers decided not to give any URLs to public until everything is ready ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
> (though the debian scripts > should be in KDE's BRANCH CVS tree once he's done with them) ok, I don't knew it. I tried with the tarballs of the stable release, but they were too old, and had lots of problems. I'll try with the CVS snapshots, thx. -- MadCoder (53 53) "Un OS n'est pas censé être obscur, bizarre et plein de pièges (ça, ce sont les attributs de la magie)" - Dave Small -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
MadCoder wrote: Do you will published the scripts to debianize KDE3.0 so that every one could build his own packages, until they come into sid ? Why not just download the debs from where Chris makes them available once he's finished with kdebase (=soon)? (though the debian scripts should be in KDE's BRANCH CVS tree once he's done with them) Have fun, Yours Malte #8-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
Hello, I build KDE3 from source and everything worked out fine, but kooko and noatun crash on startup. I also changed $KDEHOME in /usr/local/kde3/bin/startkde to .kde3, but it does not save any preferences there. Everytime I start KDE it shows me this configuration wizard. This is annoying. I guess KDE3 is the most wanted package in Debian/Sid right now, so I really hope there are some debs soon. Unofficial debs are really o.k. This is probably good for bug-hunting, too. (The KDE2.2.2 packages seem really stable and good to me, great work). Is there any chance to get Liquid packaged for Debian? It looks really nice and is fast, so it would be very nice to have a package (even so it is no problem to compile it, but there are probably many people who just don't want to, or just don't know how). Thanks for your great work! By, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0 debs
Do you will published the scripts to debianize KDE3.0 so that every one could build his own packages, until they come into sid ? Thanks for all -- MadCoder (53 53) "Un OS n'est pas censé être obscur, bizarre et plein de pièges (ça, ce sont les attributs de la magie)" - Dave Small -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 3.0 debs
I want to make everyone aware of my KDE 3.0 plans. KDE 3.0 will not go into sid until woody is released, currently slated for May 1. I will probably also wait until after XFree 4.2 is released so that recompilation won't be needed. However, I will make preliminary debs available once I have finished packaging kdebase (the last package, which I am currently working on). If anyone has questions please keep it on the list if possible. Thanks, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building KDE 3.0 on Woody: Making sure it doesn't hose things.
On Monday, 8. April 2002 19:39, Doug Holland wrote: > I've just switched from Red Hat 7.2 to Debian Woody. I found the > installation to be a bit tricky, but now that it's up, I find it to be very > nice, especially because of the apt packaging. I'm very reluctant to spoil > a good thing, but I want KDE 3.0, and .deb packages are not yet available. > I have the source tarballs, and I'm considering building them, with the > target being /usr/local/kde in an effort to avoid stepping on files in the > regular distribution, including KDE 2.2.2. Exactly the way I did it, except that I have some more KDE 2.2's and 3.0's in /usr/local as well :) > What things, aside from building to /usr/local/kde instead of /usr, should > I do to make sure KDE 3.0 doesn't screw up my nicely apt-consistent Debian > system? (I'm running Woody, with apt-get set to download unstable > packages. So far, I don't have any major problems.) I assume you launch KDE via startx (with startkde in your .xinitrc). Make sure your /usr/local/kde/bin/startkde sets KDEHOME to something different from .kde2 (or whatever your current kdehome dir is). This way your current configuration doesn't show up, but as an advantage, it won't get messed up, which happens quite regularly. Well, that's all. Note that you can run KDE 2 apps in KDE 3, but the other way around is _very_ problematic. You can also launch Xnest to run both KDE's in case this is necessary. Xnest -ac -fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,\ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,\ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo :1 & export DISPLAY=:1 If you want to be paranoid about it: - export KDEDIR and QTDIR appropriately - adjust your $PATH Josef -- The MindX Open Source Project: Fighting proprietary games GGZ now! - The GGZ Gaming Zone: http://ggz.sourceforge.net ggz.morat.net | ggz.snafu.de | jzaun.com | mindx.sourceforge.net/europeone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building KDE 3.0 on Woody: Making sure it doesn't hose things.
On Monday 08 Apr 2002 6:39 pm, Doug Holland wrote: > What things, aside from building to /usr/local/kde instead of /usr, should > I do to make sure KDE 3.0 doesn't screw up my nicely apt-consistent Debian > system? (I'm running Woody, with apt-get set to download unstable > packages. So far, I don't have any major problems.) There's a nice little howto here: http://women.kde.org/projects/coding/kde2+3.html Obviously you can ignore the parts about CVS if you have downloaded the tarballs. You will also want to use the "--enable-final --disable-debug" options when configuring KDE packages, and maybe "--enable-fast-malloc=full" with kdelibs. I've found that putting a bash script in /usr/local/bin is useful for allowing KDE2's KDM to start KDE3: #!/bin/sh # /usr/local/bin/kde3 export KDEHOME=~/.kde3 export KDEDIR=/usr/local/kde3 export QTDIR=/usr/local/qt export MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$KDEDIR/lib:$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH export PATH=$KDEDIR/bin:$QTDIR/bin:$PATH exec /usr/local/kde3/bin/startkde You can then use KDE2's control centre to add a "kde3" session. You will need to put "no-generate-sessiontypes" in /etc/kde2/kdm/kdm.options to stop KDM from deleting your session type when it searches for new window-managers. This may not be the "Debian Way", but I've only touched /usr/local so it is easy to remove. :) -- Daniel Rees e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building KDE 3.0 on Woody: Making sure it doesn't hose things.
On Monday 08 April 2002 19:39, Doug Holland wrote: > What things, aside from building to /usr/local/kde instead of /usr, should > I do to make sure KDE 3.0 doesn't screw up my nicely apt-consistent Debian > system? (I'm running Woody, with apt-get set to download unstable > packages. So far, I don't have any major problems.) I managed to build kde with no problems on Debian Woody with gcc-2.95.4 (3.0.4 does not work without hacking the code) with the following options: CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS = '-O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686' configure --enable-final --disable-debug --prefix=/usr/local/kde3 KDE works fine, except some (or rather many) kate crashes Bastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building KDE 3.0 on Woody: Making sure it doesn't hose things.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 April 2002 19:39, Doug Holland wrote: > What things, aside from building to /usr/local/kde instead of /usr, > should I do to make sure KDE 3.0 doesn't screw up my nicely > apt-consistent Debian system? As long as everything goes into /usr/local/kde you should be fine. You just have to figure out a way to start KDE 3, the easiest being to just use the startkde that comes with KDE 3.0. The more complicated but also more elegant way would be to add kde3 as a session-type in your standard Debian kdm. [I don't know how to do that, though.] - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller --- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] address: Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 D-38104 Braunschweig / Germany phone:+49-531-2094886 mobile: +49-179-4562940 web: http://www.vonkoeller.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8sfyDUIvM6e6BgFARAlN2AJ9p21g0YiaEs7EA+6ioVxy8dBApgwCghpcA J/Uy5ftbjn67D6vrYlMQovs= =PlvQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building KDE 3.0 on Woody: Making sure it doesn't hose things.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 April 2002 6:39 pm, Doug Holland wrote: > What things, aside from building to /usr/local/kde instead of /usr, should > I do to make sure KDE 3.0 doesn't screw up my nicely apt-consistent Debian > system? (I'm running Woody, with apt-get set to download unstable > packages. So far, I don't have any major problems.) I don't think there should be any major problems. I use the attached script to start KDE 3. It means it can easily co-exist with 2.2.2. If you wanted to remove KDE 3, all you need to do is rm -rf /usr/local/kde, I think. - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8sfsdF8Iu1zN5WiwRAt8sAJsGAxTOY2/imll43kPuK838TfvtVQCffJMj nahUPjgjVVl17PM0PGDdSmI= =ii6n -END PGP SIGNATURE- kde3.sh Description: application/shellscript
Building KDE 3.0 on Woody: Making sure it doesn't hose things.
I've just switched from Red Hat 7.2 to Debian Woody. I found the installation to be a bit tricky, but now that it's up, I find it to be very nice, especially because of the apt packaging. I'm very reluctant to spoil a good thing, but I want KDE 3.0, and .deb packages are not yet available. I have the source tarballs, and I'm considering building them, with the target being /usr/local/kde in an effort to avoid stepping on files in the regular distribution, including KDE 2.2.2. What things, aside from building to /usr/local/kde instead of /usr, should I do to make sure KDE 3.0 doesn't screw up my nicely apt-consistent Debian system? (I'm running Woody, with apt-get set to download unstable packages. So far, I don't have any major problems.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install KDE 3.0 on Debian 2.2r4?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 April 2002 16:46, Vandal wrote: > You could just go download the tarballs, and go that way. Which would still be very difficult because potato is so outdated. You'll probably be better off either updating to woody right now or waiting till Debian 3.0 is released. - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller --- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] address: Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 D-38104 Braunschweig / Germany phone:+49-531-2094886 mobile: +49-179-4562940 web: http://www.vonkoeller.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8sbuOUIvM6e6BgFARApO+AJ42jtiZ7bkKuOHWXRt8QXoNf7p/UQCeJWwX MZKDxQQWdj2N1wYJhqtU2lc= =/v8M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to install KDE 3.0 on Debian 2.2r4?
You could just go download the tarballs, and go that way. -Original Message- From: Rogerio Acquadro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:46 AM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: How to install KDE 3.0 on Debian 2.2r4? Hi there! I have on my PC Debian 2.2r4 and I would like to install the new version of KDE (3.0). But there is any package of KDE when I search on traditional sites with DSELECT. Does anybody know how to install KDE (3.0 or 2.2.2) on Debian 2.2r4? Thanks a lot! Rogerio Acquadro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install KDE 3.0 on Debian 2.2r4?
Am Montag, 8. April 2002 14:45 schrieb Rogerio Acquadro: > I have on my PC Debian 2.2r4 and I would like to install the new version of > KDE (3.0). But there is any package of KDE when I search on traditional > sites with DSELECT. There is no KDE 3.X for debian. There will be a KDE 3.X when it is ready and I doubt that there will be a KDE 3.X for potato ever. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install KDE 3.0 on Debian 2.2r4?
Hi there! I have on my PC Debian 2.2r4 and I would like to install the new version of KDE (3.0). But there is any package of KDE when I search on traditional sites with DSELECT. Does anybody know how to install KDE (3.0 or 2.2.2) on Debian 2.2r4? Thanks a lot! Rogerio Acquadro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 3.0 BRANCH: Patch for libsmbclient in smb ioslave
Hello everyone, I keep up with KDE3 development and have found the included patch to be necessary for libsmbclient to be properly detected and compiled when building kdebase on Debian. If libsmbclient is not found when building kdebase, the old method of using a wrapper around smbclient is used for SMB access. The benefit of using libsmbclient for the smb ioslave is that it is read/write instead of read-only, as well as much faster. I've no idea how portable this patch is, I only know it was necessary to get things to work right on my (Woody) system. Thanks to mETz on IRC for much of this. -- Michael Driscoll, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" -- J. Springfield Index: kdebase/kioslave/smb/Makefile.am === RCS file: /home/kde/kdebase/kioslave/smb/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -3 -p -r1.17 Makefile.am --- kdebase/kioslave/smb/Makefile.am2001/05/21 13:08:55 1.17 +++ kdebase/kioslave/smb/Makefile.am2002/04/07 02:39:46 @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ kio_smb_la_SOURCES = kio_smb.cpp \ kio_smb_file.cpp \ kio_smb_internal.cpp -kio_smb_la_LIBADD = -lkio -lsmbclient +kio_smb_la_LIBADD = -lkio -lsmbclient -lnsl kio_smb_la_LDFLAGS = -module -avoid-version -no-undefined Index: kdebase/kioslave/smb/configure.in.in === RCS file: /home/kde/kdebase/kioslave/smb/configure.in.in,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -3 -p -r1.5 configure.in.in --- kdebase/kioslave/smb/configure.in.in2001/03/29 09:30:44 1.5 +++ kdebase/kioslave/smb/configure.in.in2002/04/07 02:39:46 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ SMB_SUBDIR="smb" KDE_CHECK_HEADER(libsmbclient.h, ,[SMB_SUBDIR=""] ) -KDE_CHECK_LIB(smbclient, smbc_init, ,[SMB_SUBDIR=""] ) +KDE_CHECK_LIB(smbclient, smbc_init, ,[SMB_SUBDIR=""], -lnsl -ldl ) AC_SUBST(SMB_SUBDIR)
Re: Compiling KDE 3.0 under Debian
> > Has somebody installed KDE 3.0 in a Debian box locally and suceeded?. > > I compiled it on Tuesday and it worked, I also followed the same web page. I've succeeded with the same instructions, too. A small addition to the women.kde.orgs article: you can try/develop (still rather unstable) KDE3 simultaneously with KDE 2.2 like this: # su # X :1 & # exit # export DISPLAY=:1 # /usr/local/kde3/bin/startkde # - Jarno
Re: Compiling KDE 3.0 under Debian
On Thursday 24 January 2002 14:31, Pablo de Vicente wrote: > I am trying to compile KE 3.0 in a Debian (woody+sid ) box in a local > directory and I have problems when compiling kdelibs. I have followed the > instructions in http://women.kde.org/projects/coding/kde2+3.html > > Has somebody installed KDE 3.0 in a Debian box locally and suceeded?. I compiled it on Tuesday and it worked, I also followed the same web page. I'm afraid I'm no expert, try cvs up kdelibs cd kdelibs make clean rm config.cache and start again and hope for the best Nick
Compiling KDE 3.0 under Debian
I am trying to compile KE 3.0 in a Debian (woody+sid ) box in a local directory and I have problems when compiling kdelibs. I have followed the instructions in http://women.kde.org/projects/coding/kde2+3.html . qt-copy and kdesupport compile fine, but kdelibs does not. I get the following error : make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/kde3/kde-cvs/kdelibs/dcop/dcopidl2cpp' c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../dcop -I../../libltdl -I../../kdecore -I../../kdeui -I../../kio -I../../kio/kio -I../../kio/kfile -I/usr/local/qt-copy/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/kde3/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -ftemplate-depth-99 -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_COMPAT -c main.cpp In file included from main.cpp:32: main.h:29: type specifier omitted for parameter main.h:29: parse error before `)' main.h:34: type specifier omitted for parameter main.h:34: parse error before `,' main.h:39: type specifier omitted for parameter main.h:39: parse error before `,' main.cpp: In function `int main(int, char **)': main.cpp:95: `QDomDocument' undeclared (first use this function) main.cpp:95: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once main.cpp:95: for each function it appears in.) main.cpp:95: parse error before `;' main.cpp:96: `doc' undeclared (first use this function) main.cpp:98: `QDomElement' undeclared (first use this function) main.cpp:98: parse error before `=' and some more messages. QDomDocument and QDomElement seem to be defined in qdom.h, so I do not understand why they are not recognized in main.cpp file. Has somebody installed KDE 3.0 in a Debian box locally and suceeded?. Pablo de Vicente
Re: kde 3.0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:05:13PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 20:47, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > > of course it does. That is what KDE uses for it's development. However > > QT has not released a version that they support that KDE works with. > > > > I've seen changes there recently, that's why I mentioned. I think it's going > to be usable quite soon. beta1 is already tagged, and I think it's really > going to be cool when it comes out. the Trolls do not support qt-copy as qt-copy could be considered experimental. However they just released 3.0.1 today so we should be good to go. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde 3.0
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 20:47, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > of course it does. That is what KDE uses for it's development. However > QT has not released a version that they support that KDE works with. > I've seen changes there recently, that's why I mentioned. I think it's going to be usable quite soon. beta1 is already tagged, and I think it's really going to be cool when it comes out. Thanks, -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C
Re: kde 3.0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:29:31PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 10:17, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was > > alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages > > built. > > > > current qt-copy seems to be working of course it does. That is what KDE uses for it's development. However QT has not released a version that they support that KDE works with. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 10:17, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was > alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages > built. > current qt-copy seems to be working Thanks, - -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8F3fbfAeuFodNU5wRAqXqAKCMPiejJYMs1GJPmBcVBgPNrjC3ZQCfdOoW 3FPzcPAdzW/wEmykw/Qy2PM= =ZAJa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 01:17 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" > > > lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). > > > Any actual experiences welcome :-) > > > > The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and > > http ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back > > to kde 2.2 ;) > > Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org > > that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was > alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages > built. Sweet, I'll just wait then. As for the debug thing, great! 2 birds with one stone :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8F24cEHLN/FXAbC0RAtDKAJ4iui95gWoBv9ciE+8mbcGMZsRcagCg6eWd oHiqg5IK2S7RPlKYpwSnOf4= =TCgY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:14:36AM +0100, Ax wrote: > Dne út 11. prosinec 2001 20:01 David Bishop napsal(a): > > Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" > > lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). > > Any actual experiences welcome :-) > > The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and http > ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back to kde > 2.2 ;) > Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages built. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde 3.0
Dne út 11. prosinec 2001 20:01 David Bishop napsal(a): > Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" > lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). > Any actual experiences welcome :-) The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and http ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back to kde 2.2 ;) Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org Ax * I mean that it started and I succesfully ran konqueror w/o crashes;) -- Vaclav Hula [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~ax There's long way from statue to liberty... [Hobit - Ants]
Re: kde 3.0
by default it is already being built with --enable-debug On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:11:47PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2001 20:01, David Bishop wrote: > > Sidenote to Ivan: I don't remember if I asked you about this > > before, but I was wondering if for the alpha/beta packages of KDE, > > we could turn on debugging, at least in the libraries. It would > > help us bleeding edge types to be able to make decent bugreports, > > and would be turned off (of course) as soon as we hit .0. Anyways, > > just an idea :-) > > I think this would really be good! The beta releases are (by > definition) not for high-speed use but for debugging and being able > to produce decent backtraces would be a huge plus for all the > developers. > > I know from the KMail mailing list which I am subscribed to that at > least the KMail developers really encourage this. > > -- > -M > > --- Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- > Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 / 38104 Braunschweig / Germany >Phone: +49-(0)531/2094886 Mobile: +49-(0)179/4562940 > > lp1 on fire (One of the more obfuscated kernel messages) ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 December 2001 20:01, David Bishop wrote: > Sidenote to Ivan: I don't remember if I asked you about this > before, but I was wondering if for the alpha/beta packages of KDE, > we could turn on debugging, at least in the libraries. It would > help us bleeding edge types to be able to make decent bugreports, > and would be turned off (of course) as soon as we hit .0. Anyways, > just an idea :-) I think this would really be good! The beta releases are (by definition) not for high-speed use but for debugging and being able to produce decent backtraces would be a huge plus for all the developers. I know from the KMail mailing list which I am subscribed to that at least the KMail developers really encourage this. - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 / 38104 Braunschweig / Germany Phone: +49-(0)531/2094886 Mobile: +49-(0)179/4562940 lp1 on fire (One of the more obfuscated kernel messages) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8FoSmUIvM6e6BgFARAmlXAKC83JTK6QplEKQIF+lM+L0Pb+kvbACgxajG ugak3buCTWuY917p6H85INk= =70xD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). Any actual experiences welcome :-) Sidenote to Ivan: I don't remember if I asked you about this before, but I was wondering if for the alpha/beta packages of KDE, we could turn on debugging, at least in the libraries. It would help us bleeding edge types to be able to make decent bugreports, and would be turned off (of course) as soon as we hit .0. Anyways, just an idea :-) Thanks to all, and to all a good night! ;-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Flf9KEJ4huP2XBERAt5xAKDAXq3/hmDDcG5XyT7Xa2CPyrQoJwCdGDuY 7i0OR/bpmfTRhqUp20EonQg= =JNmU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.0 (cvs) packages
> > I don't see why libarts1 would conflict libarts and thus noatun etc. would > > have to be removed. before I forget: usr/lib/mcop/* usr/bin/* yes.the actual libraries do not conflict, but other items in the package do. KDE usually does a good job updating the sonames of the libararies however unless they rename every single binary or I create several new -bin packages they will still conflict. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE 3.0 (cvs) packages
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 02:48:34PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Thursday 18 October 2001 10:35, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > yea..I finally got it all installed myself and saw those exact same > > issues. > > > > it'll clear up in the coming days I'm sure. I'll get another build out > > that works. > > > > Hi Ivan, > > I just want to use KDE3.0 for development. I don't want to use any binaries > from it. I was trying to install devel packages, but apt-get wants to remove > a large portion of my KDE installation. > > I don't see why libarts1 would conflict libarts and thus noatun etc. would > have to be removed. > > It looks like they conflict because there may be (are) individual file > conflicts. However, this could be avoided by a proper renaming like done in > tcl/tk installations. > > Let's discuss it here a while and ask for other developers' ideas in > debian-devel if appropriate. first off it all conflicts because this is the first time I've built packages for the new version and I *know* there are conflicts in just looking at the file names created. secondly I'm not going to spend time messing with file renaming at this point in time as it would be way to much work on my part for stuff that's going to change 1000 times before it's released. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE 3.0 (cvs) packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 October 2001 10:35, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > yea..I finally got it all installed myself and saw those exact same > issues. > > it'll clear up in the coming days I'm sure. I'll get another build out > that works. > Hi Ivan, I just want to use KDE3.0 for development. I don't want to use any binaries from it. I was trying to install devel packages, but apt-get wants to remove a large portion of my KDE installation. I don't see why libarts1 would conflict libarts and thus noatun etc. would have to be removed. It looks like they conflict because there may be (are) individual file conflicts. However, this could be avoided by a proper renaming like done in tcl/tk installations. Let's discuss it here a while and ask for other developers' ideas in debian-devel if appropriate. Regards, orion:exa$ sudo apt-get -u -t unstable install libarts1 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs4 kdepim-libs koffice-libs libkmid0 libqt3-mt libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-oss libsmpeg0 mpg321 smpeg-gtv smpeg-plaympeg The following packages will be REMOVED: alephone artsbuilder avifile-player glaxium kasteroids kbattleship kde kde-devel kde-extras kde-games kdebase-audiolibs kdebase-dev kdelibs-dev kdemultimedia-dev kdepim-dev kjezz kmid kmidi knapster2 koffice-dev konqueror libarts libarts-dev libarts-mpeglib libavifile0.6 libkmid libkmid-dev libkonq-dev libminimagick-dev libpolhem libsdl1.1 libsdl1.2 libsdl1.2-all noatun noatun-plugins oms-display-sdl synaesthesia tuxracer vlc-sdl xmps xmps-common xmps-dev xmps-gnome The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs4 libarts1 libkmid0 libqt3-mt libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-oss The following packages will be upgraded kdepim-libs koffice-libs libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl1.2-dev libsmpeg0 mpg321 smpeg-gtv smpeg-plaympeg 8 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 43 to remove and 732 not upgraded. Need to get 13.0MB of archives. After unpacking 7324kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] - -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7zsGSfAeuFodNU5wRAgmHAJ9QnqebO+5nvwPBPNOZkSmuh4QIVgCghu+x vnPmwcnrNrf61xSlZr/BvL4= =39oG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.0 (cvs) packages
yea..I finally got it all installed myself and saw those exact same issues. it'll clear up in the coming days I'm sure. I'll get another build out that works. Ivan On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:22:03AM -0700, Josh Hansen wrote: > I got crazy and installed the kde3alpha packages. Of course, I had to hack > around the /etc/apt/apt.conf to support http proxy, but finally got things > downloaded and installed. Two big problems so far: no window manager loads > along with KDE, and almost none of the configuration modules load (konqueror > control panel, for example). > > Anyway, just thought I'd let you all know how it's going! > > - Josh > > --- > ok folks... > > deb http://people.debian.org/~rkrusty kde3.0/i386/ > > that'll get you access to kdelibs and kdebase. > > and most likely you won't be able to any of the kde2 stuff installed at this > time but..hey, it's the first draft. > > Ivan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE 3.0 (cvs) packages
I got crazy and installed the kde3alpha packages. Of course, I had to hack around the /etc/apt/apt.conf to support http proxy, but finally got things downloaded and installed. Two big problems so far: no window manager loads along with KDE, and almost none of the configuration modules load (konqueror control panel, for example). Anyway, just thought I'd let you all know how it's going! - Josh --- ok folks... deb http://people.debian.org/~rkrusty kde3.0/i386/ that'll get you access to kdelibs and kdebase. and most likely you won't be able to any of the kde2 stuff installed at this time but..hey, it's the first draft. Ivan
KDE 3.0 (cvs) packages
ok folks... deb http://people.debian.org/~rkrusty kde3.0/i386/ that'll get you access to kdelibs and kdebase. and most likely you won't be able to any of the kde2 stuff installed at this time but..hey, it's the first draft. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
