Re: Installing KDE 4.6 Backport On Squeeze

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Boyce
On 18/03/2012 09:14, R33D3M33R wrote:
> 
> 2012/3/15 Nick Boyce 
> 
>> I've tried all the obvious meta-packages, with these results :
>> 
>> "aptitude install kde (or kde-standard or kde-full)" gives : The
>> following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-standard: Depends:
>> polkit-kde-1 (>= 0.99) but it is not going to be installed. 
>> plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but 
>> 4:4.4.5-3 is to be installed. plasma-desktop: Breaks:
>> plasma-widget-networkmanagement (< 0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but
>> 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed. kdebase-runtime-data: Breaks:
>> plasma-widget-networkmanagement (< 0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but
>> 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.
> 
> you probably get errors because you are not including "-t
> debian-desktop"

Doh !   Thanks Andrej - I was indeed being blind and not reading the
instructions properly.  I can't test the theory now cos I've already
gone ahead and installed KDE 4.4.5 from stable, but when I get another
Debian up in a VM I'll try again.

(Thanks too to Martin, whose response I also failed to read properly)

>> "aptitude install kde-minimal" gives : No candidate version found
>> for kde-minimal

This will never work because, with all repositories I've now checked,
there is no such package (which probably means
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html should have the reference to
it removed).

[I have to say, Squeeze/KDE4.4.5 is a beautiful step up from
Sarge/KDE3.3 :)]

Cheers
Nick
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Re: Installing KDE 4.6 Backport On Squeeze

2012-03-18 Thread R33D3M33R
Hello,

you probably get errors because you are not including "-t debian-desktop"

Cheers,
Andrej

2012/3/15 Nick Boyce 

> [I realise the various unofficial KDE backports are not the primary
> topic on this list, so this email is just in case my question is
> Frequent, and/or there's anybody here with any obvious answers.  TIA.]
>
> This is the first time I've tried installing Debian KDE since 3.3 on
> 'sarge', so please be gentle :)
>
> I have just installed a fresh and bare-bones (no desktop) 'squeeze'
> system on an AMD64 box, using the netinst 6.0.4 CD, and I'd now like to
> install KDE 4.6.5 from http://www.debian-desktop.org/, but am unsure
> what is a sensible way of installing a useful chunk of the desktop.
>
> I've been following the advice at
> http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html
> and http://www.debian-desktop.org/doku.php/start
> and I've tried all the obvious meta-packages, with these results :
>
> "aptitude install kde (or kde-standard or kde-full)" gives :
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  kde-standard: Depends: polkit-kde-1 (>= 0.99) but it is not going to
> be installed.
>  plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but
> 4:4.4.5-3 is to be installed.
>  plasma-desktop: Breaks: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (<
> 0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.
>  kdebase-runtime-data: Breaks: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (<
> 0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.
>
> "aptitude install kde-minimal" gives :
> No candidate version found for kde-minimal
>
> The least broken option is this :
>
> "aptitude install kde-plasma-desktop" gives :
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but it
> is not going to be installed.
>
> Would that last one give me a good result ?
> Does a missing 'plasma-scriptengine-python' matter much ?
>
> As for the others, I don't think I need
> 'plasma-widget-networkmanagement', but I suspect 'polkit-kde-1' is
> rather important ... any comments ?
>
> Anyway, any insights into all this would be gratefully received.
>
> [Yes, I could just install the KDE 4.4.3 that comes with 'squeeze' - I
> quite like it, but I thought I'd just have a look at the 4.6.5 backport.]
>
> PS: what's with the wacky version numbers (5:66) of stable packages like
> 'kde', 'kde-full' and 'kde-plasma-desktop' ?  Why not '4:4.4.3' ?
>
> Cheers
> Nick Boyce
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>  He decides to use certificates.
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Re: Installing KDE 4.6 Backport On Squeeze

2012-03-15 Thread Nick Boyce
On 15/03/2012 10:36, Martin Alfke wrote:

> On 15.03.2012, at 03:42, Nick Boyce wrote:
[...]
>> I have just installed a fresh and bare-bones (no desktop) 'squeeze'
>> system on an AMD64 box, using the netinst 6.0.4 CD, and I'd now
>> like to install KDE 4.6.5 from http://www.debian-desktop.org/
[...]
>> I've tried all the obvious meta-packages, with these results :
> 
> please install using
> 
> apt-get -t debian-desktop kde-full

Ah .. ok, I just tried that in simulation mode, and it does indeed not
produce any warnings or errors at all.  Which is great ... and which
tells me that the apt-get/aptitude religious war has become a bit more
serious since last I understood.

It's OT for this list (and I don't want to ingite any flame fests here),
so can anyone point me at a discussion or explanation of the current
state of play with apt package managers ?

I thought the important difference was that aptitude keeps track of
automatically installed packages (while apt-get does not), so it can get
rid of them later when they're no longer needed.  It now looks like
aptitude resolves dependencies in a very different way from apt-get, and
I therefore need a better understanding of these tools.

> Please note that I lack time to correct an issue with USB automount 
> (amd64 and i386) and security updates.
> 
> If you prefer a stable solution you should stick to the official 
> packages.

Thanks for the warning. While it might be possible to roll my own
security fixes in the longer term, I think the lack of USB automounting
would bug the hell out of me in the short term, so I'll stick to stable
4.4.3 on the primary system, and may have a look at the backport in a VM
later on.

Irrespective, thank you very much for all your hard work on the
backports repository.

Cheers,
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Re: Installing KDE 4.6 Backport On Squeeze

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Alfke
Hi Nick,

please install using

apt-get -t debian-desktop kde-full

Please note that I lack time to correct an issue with USB automount (amd64 and 
i386) and security updates.

If you prefer a stable solution you should stick to the official packages.

Thanks,

Martin


On 15.03.2012, at 03:42, Nick Boyce wrote:

> [I realise the various unofficial KDE backports are not the primary
> topic on this list, so this email is just in case my question is
> Frequent, and/or there's anybody here with any obvious answers.  TIA.]
> 
> This is the first time I've tried installing Debian KDE since 3.3 on
> 'sarge', so please be gentle :)
> 
> I have just installed a fresh and bare-bones (no desktop) 'squeeze'
> system on an AMD64 box, using the netinst 6.0.4 CD, and I'd now like to
> install KDE 4.6.5 from http://www.debian-desktop.org/, but am unsure
> what is a sensible way of installing a useful chunk of the desktop.
> 
> I've been following the advice at
> http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html
> and http://www.debian-desktop.org/doku.php/start
> and I've tried all the obvious meta-packages, with these results :
> 
> "aptitude install kde (or kde-standard or kde-full)" gives :
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  kde-standard: Depends: polkit-kde-1 (>= 0.99) but it is not going to
> be installed.
>  plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but
> 4:4.4.5-3 is to be installed.
>  plasma-desktop: Breaks: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (<
> 0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.
>  kdebase-runtime-data: Breaks: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (<
> 0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.
> 
> "aptitude install kde-minimal" gives :
> No candidate version found for kde-minimal
> 
> The least broken option is this :
> 
> "aptitude install kde-plasma-desktop" gives :
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but it
> is not going to be installed.
> 
> Would that last one give me a good result ?
> Does a missing 'plasma-scriptengine-python' matter much ?
> 
> As for the others, I don't think I need
> 'plasma-widget-networkmanagement', but I suspect 'polkit-kde-1' is
> rather important ... any comments ?
> 
> Anyway, any insights into all this would be gratefully received.
> 
> [Yes, I could just install the KDE 4.4.3 that comes with 'squeeze' - I
> quite like it, but I thought I'd just have a look at the 4.6.5 backport.]
> 
> PS: what's with the wacky version numbers (5:66) of stable packages like
> 'kde', 'kde-full' and 'kde-plasma-desktop' ?  Why not '4:4.4.3' ?
> 
> Cheers
> Nick Boyce
> -- 
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> He decides to use certificates.
> Now Bob has two problems."
> 
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Installing KDE 4.6 Backport On Squeeze

2012-03-14 Thread Nick Boyce
[I realise the various unofficial KDE backports are not the primary
topic on this list, so this email is just in case my question is
Frequent, and/or there's anybody here with any obvious answers.  TIA.]

This is the first time I've tried installing Debian KDE since 3.3 on
'sarge', so please be gentle :)

I have just installed a fresh and bare-bones (no desktop) 'squeeze'
system on an AMD64 box, using the netinst 6.0.4 CD, and I'd now like to
install KDE 4.6.5 from http://www.debian-desktop.org/, but am unsure
what is a sensible way of installing a useful chunk of the desktop.

I've been following the advice at
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html
and http://www.debian-desktop.org/doku.php/start
and I've tried all the obvious meta-packages, with these results :

"aptitude install kde (or kde-standard or kde-full)" gives :
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde-standard: Depends: polkit-kde-1 (>= 0.99) but it is not going to
be installed.
  plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but
4:4.4.5-3 is to be installed.
  plasma-desktop: Breaks: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (<
0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.
  kdebase-runtime-data: Breaks: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (<
0.1+git20110422.810bc16-1+) but 0.1~svn1141976-1 is to be installed.

"aptitude install kde-minimal" gives :
No candidate version found for kde-minimal

The least broken option is this :

"aptitude install kde-plasma-desktop" gives :
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  plasma-scriptengine-python: Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.6.80) but it
is not going to be installed.

Would that last one give me a good result ?
Does a missing 'plasma-scriptengine-python' matter much ?

As for the others, I don't think I need
'plasma-widget-networkmanagement', but I suspect 'polkit-kde-1' is
rather important ... any comments ?

Anyway, any insights into all this would be gratefully received.

[Yes, I could just install the KDE 4.4.3 that comes with 'squeeze' - I
quite like it, but I thought I'd just have a look at the 4.6.5 backport.]

PS: what's with the wacky version numbers (5:66) of stable packages like
'kde', 'kde-full' and 'kde-plasma-desktop' ?  Why not '4:4.4.3' ?

Cheers
Nick Boyce
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Re: KDE 4.6 on wheezy has no desktop effects

2011-06-23 Thread Terror Pine
On 2011-06-19, Sune Vuorela   wrote:

> It is a issue that will be fixed.

Is there a debian bug report for this? If not, should there be (or are
we all waiting till the Mesa fix makes it through unstable)?

Pinet


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Re: KDE 4.6 on wheezy has no desktop effects

2011-06-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-06-18, Manuel E. Gutierrez  wrote:
> ln -s /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/i915_dri.so

This is bad advice. please don't do this.

It is a issue that will be fixed.

/Sune


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Re: KDE 4.6 on wheezy has no desktop effects

2011-06-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2011-06-18, Manuel E. Gutierrez wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> With some recenty upgrades Xorg can't find my video driver and KDE has
> loosed the desktop effects.
> 
> You can fix it temporarily by doing this, changing "i915" by any other
> driver your pc use.
> 
> ln -s /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/i915_dri.so
> 
> It helps reading the Xorg log.
> 
> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep error
> 
> If anybody here is related with the Xorg team/list would be great if you
> could report to them.

If I understood this [1] correctly then this should be just a transitional 
problem.

Cheers,
Kevin

[1] http://blog.mraw.org/2011/06/18/mesa_a_disturbance_in_the_Force/


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KDE 4.6 on wheezy has no desktop effects

2011-06-18 Thread Manuel E. Gutierrez

Hello.

With some recenty upgrades Xorg can't find my video driver and KDE has loosed 
the desktop effects.

You can fix it temporarily by doing this, changing "i915" by any other driver 
your pc use.

ln -s /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/i915_dri.so

It helps reading the Xorg log.

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep error

If anybody here is related with the Xorg team/list would be great if you could 
report to them.





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Re: KDE 4.6 : kwriteconfig how to apply the change

2011-06-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2011-06-16, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2011-06-15, Thierry Leurent wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I must change the configuration of my kde (kioslaverc) using a script.
> > When I change my kioslaverc using command line, I see the result in the
> > file but the change is not applied (A refresh on konqueror don't work).
> > When I make the same change via System settings that's work.
> 
> Try
> qdbus org.kde.klauncher /KLauncher org.kde.KLauncher.reparseConfiguration
> 
> or calling
> 
> kbuildsycoca

Or have a look at this:
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=34605

Cheer,
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Re: KDE 4.6 : kwriteconfig how to apply the change

2011-06-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2011-06-15, Thierry Leurent wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I must change the configuration of my kde (kioslaverc) using a script.
> When I change my kioslaverc using command line, I see the result in the
> file but the change is not applied (A refresh on konqueror don't work).
> When I make the same change via System settings that's work.

Try 
qdbus org.kde.klauncher /KLauncher org.kde.KLauncher.reparseConfiguration

or calling

kbuildsycoca

Cheers,
Kevin


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KDE 4.6 : kwriteconfig how to apply the change

2011-06-15 Thread Thierry Leurent
Hello,

I must change the configuration of my kde (kioslaverc) using a script.
When I change my kioslaverc using command line, I see the result in the file 
but the change is not applied (A refresh on konqueror don't work).
When I make the same change via System settings that's work.

Thanks

Thierry


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KDE 4.6 : Proxy setting

2011-06-15 Thread Thierry Leurent
Hello,

How set a range IP to NoProxyFor ?

Thanks

Thierry


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KDE 4.6 on testing?

2011-06-09 Thread Enzo Cappa
Kde 4.6 on testing? is this true?
Awesome! Thank you Debian kde team!


Re: KDE 4.6 localization packages

2011-05-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi José,

Am Freitag, 27. Mai 2011 schrieb José Manuel Santamaría Lema:
> On Viernes 20 Mayo 2011 21:05:11 Martin Steigerwald escribió:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > root@merkaba:# LANG=C apt-cache policy kde-l10n-de konq-plugins-l10n
> > 
> > kde-l10n-de:
> >   Installed: 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1
> >   Candidate: 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1
> >  
> >   Version table:
> >  *** 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1 0
> >  
> > 110 http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/
> > experimental-snapshots/main
> > 
> > amd64 Packages
> > 
> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >  
> >  4:4.4.5-1 0
> >  
> > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
> > 
> > konq-plugins-l10n:
> >   Installed: (none)
> >   Candidate: 4:4.4.0-3
> >   
> >   Version table:
> >  4:4.4.0-3 0
> >  
> > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
> > 
> > don´t like each other.
> > 
> > Any plans for 4.6.2 experimental packages for konq-plugins and
> > kde-l10n?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> 
> The translations provided by konq-plugins-l10n are now provided by
> kde-l10n so it's normal that they don't like each other. If apt-get or
> aptitude offers you to remove konq-plugins-l10n, go ahead.

Thanks. I upgrade to the new kde-l10n-de 4.6.3-1 and let it replace the 
konq-plugins-l10n package. Looks fine so far.

Ciao,
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Re: KDE 4.6 localization packages

2011-05-27 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
On Viernes 20 Mayo 2011 21:05:11 Martin Steigerwald escribió:
> Hi!
> 
> root@merkaba:# LANG=C apt-cache policy kde-l10n-de konq-plugins-l10n
> kde-l10n-de:
>   Installed: 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1
>   Candidate: 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1
>   Version table:
>  *** 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1 0
> 110 http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/ experimental-snapshots/main
> amd64 Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  4:4.4.5-1 0
> 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
> konq-plugins-l10n:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 4:4.4.0-3
>   Version table:
>  4:4.4.0-3 0
> 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
> 
> don´t like each other.
> 
> Any plans for 4.6.2 experimental packages for konq-plugins and kde-l10n?
> 
> Thanks,

The translations provided by konq-plugins-l10n are now provided by kde-l10n so 
it's normal that they don't like each other. If apt-get or aptitude offers you 
to remove konq-plugins-l10n, go ahead.


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KDE 4.6 localization packages

2011-05-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi!

root@merkaba:# LANG=C apt-cache policy kde-l10n-de konq-plugins-l10n
kde-l10n-de:
  Installed: 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1
  Candidate: 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.6.2+repack1-0r1 0
110 http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/ experimental-snapshots/main 
amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 4:4.4.5-1 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
konq-plugins-l10n:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:4.4.0-3
  Version table:
 4:4.4.0-3 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages

don´t like each other.

Any plans for 4.6.2 experimental packages for konq-plugins and kde-l10n?

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X segfaults upon logout from KDE 4.6

2011-04-30 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
X segfaults whenever I logout from KDE.
This does not happen when logging out from icewm.



Xorg.0.log is attached
[64.763] 
X.Org X Server 1.9.5
Release Date: 2011-03-17
[64.777] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[64.777] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 i686 Debian
[64.777] Current Operating System: Linux Beojan-PC 2.6.37-ck1 #2 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 20 10:26:25 GMT 2011 i686
[64.777] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-ck1 root=UUID=cb1b68f7-35a9-48c8-875b-e5156ac0d726 ro loglevel=1 quiet splash=silent console=tty1
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KDE 4.6 constantly smashing my configs & data - nearly unusable....

2011-04-12 Thread chymian
hi guys,

after a lot of problems with the squeezy/weezy versions of KDE, I updated to 
4.6.1  from exerimental in the hope that the varios bugs and problems I was 
facing would go away... unfortunatley ther are evem more - so much that I 
think of leaving KDE

I runing deb-testing on a MacBook 3.1 (intel core2Duo, 4G RAM) laptop screen 
LVDS1, 1280x800 and ext. monitor via DVI1 1680x1050 (my prim. screen)
kernel 2.6.38-2 (experiemental)

1. after every reboot/restart/login of KDE, the settings from LVDS1 are back 
to 1024x768 - I have to manualy do the settings again and again. even if they 
seem to be correctly default-saved in .kde/share/config/startupconfig:

krandrrc_display_startupcommands="xrandr --output \"LVDS1\" --pos 0x0 --mode 
1280x800 --refresh 59.9095
xrandr --output \"DVI1\" --pos 1280x0 --mode 1680x1050 --refresh 59.8833
xrandr --noprimary"

also, after reboot/restart of kde:
2. my dashboards-layout is always scrambled and often loss of configuration
some of them are not started anymore, 

3. since the update to 4.6.1, the toolbar does not resize correct. once it was 
smaler (due to screenconfig error) it does not resize to full width of the 
screen. only 1280 instead of 1680 aka LVDS1 instead of DVI1-width

4. after a shutdown/init level without KDE, it happend every 2nd/3rd time 
that:
kmail is loosing mails, (last recieved mails are empty...)
kmail is loosing configuration constantly: like filtersettings, view-setup, etc.
but they are still in the config files!!!

5. bluetooth-monolith is started, but does not find any adapter, after each 
reboot.
after manualy restarting bluetoothd deamon while KDE is running, it finds the 
adapter again.
6. my apple bluetoothmouse buttens do not working anymore (sinc 4.6). I can 
move the mouse/arrow, but that's all.

7. kwallet and other apps constantly losing ther config/data files
8. knetwork does not start automated connect and/or looses config-files...

9. comming back from suspend (lid close) funktion keys ar often not working. 
have to restart dbus & pommed helps most of the times.

10. can not set konqueror to use webkit. khtml only.

...and a lot minor problems more, which I even can't remeber at the moment 


all in all, since I installed 4.6 ca. 5 days ago, I have to repair my system 
every day, doing constant backups (1h) of my .kde-dir. and reply nearly at 
every start a couple of config files - what a mess.

since the update from weezy smashed KDE completley, I moved .kde out of the 
way and started over from scratch (-> website: no help for a testing-update 
like that)

I'm glad to help, provide any data etc. if someone jumps on these varios 
bugs...

cheers
chymian


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nepomuk / strigi in KDE 4.6

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Heyho!

I tried once more to enable nepomuk + strigi. It's now quite nice load-wise, 
but it leaks memory. After ca. 10h, I've got "nepomukservicestub" processes 
taking up all my memory, with the machine swapping like mad.

I also had to wipe .kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ before virtuoso would run 
(segfault at start else.)

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Re: kde 4.6

2011-04-02 Thread Ramon Antonio Parada
I think it would be very constructive to post here, on this list some
random tasks than can be done.
That would help getting more collaborators.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Adrian von Bidder  wrote:
> Heyho!
>
> On Monday 28 March 2011 16.47:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> On 2011-03-27 07:48:45 Kees de Jong wrote:
>
>> >This question is quite valid
>> >if you ask me.
>> We didn't.
>
> Come on, can you please let this die or turn into something constructive?
> Igor asked this FAQ in a quite civil manner, and Modestas -- who does a LOT
> of the work -- answered.  End of story.
>
> -- vbi
>
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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-28 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Heyho!

On Monday 28 March 2011 16.47:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On 2011-03-27 07:48:45 Kees de Jong wrote:

> >This question is quite valid
> >if you ask me.
> We didn't.

Come on, can you please let this die or turn into something constructive? 
Igor asked this FAQ in a quite civil manner, and Modestas -- who does a LOT 
of the work -- answered.  End of story.

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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-28 Thread Kees de Jong
I didn't help, that's true.
I'm too busy involved with other projects outside Debian, I'm just a
happy user. I greatly appreciate the free time that's spend in Debian
by lots of people! But that's not why these questions rise. It's
because we aren't properly informed over the progress, we were told it
would be uploaded in early march.

It's almost April now ;-) 

These questions would not have been asked if there was a clear progress 
schedule to follow. Maybe if there was such a progress schedule, then people 
can see more clear when and where to step in to help with their skills. This 
is also something that's needed for the projects I'm involved with. So when
I've stumbled to a practical solution for such a schedule then I let
you know. Maybe someone already knows an exciting solution for this? An
easy open-source tool to display and maintain this on a website?


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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-28 Thread Pavel Mihaduk
On 27 of March 2011 15:59:46 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On sekmadienis 27 Kovas 2011 13:14:24 Igor Sheykin wrote:
> > I think this question is very popular in the last few weeks.
> > Nevertheless, "When would be KDE 4.6.x added to debian repos?",
> > or it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
> > debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
> > What are the reasons why there are no new versions of KDE4 ?
> 
> KDE SC 4.6.1 -> http://qt-kde.debian.net/ (ETA a few days). This time new
> KDE will not conflict with most third-party applications (e.g. ktorrent,
> kdiff3 etc.) from official archive (however there might be a few crashes,
> not sure yet).
> 
> Official archive will get KDE SC 4.6.2 or later.
> 
> P.S. Upgrade will not be very smooth for semiofficial KDE SC 4.5.1/4.5.3
> users. Some more advanced apt/aptitude/dpkg experience might be needed. Be
> prepared.

Thank you very much Modestas for your work. If possible, could you please 
clarify in details which exactly help may people from outside Debian project 
provide to help speed-up the process of new KDE coming to official repos? I've 
read about copyright issues but unfortunately I'm not that deep in Debian 
"internals" and don't have any single idea of how exactly I can help.

Thanks in advance.

Pavel Mihaduk


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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On 2011-03-27 07:48:45 Kees de Jong wrote:
>On Sunday 27 March 2011 14:21:17 Kete wrote:
>> On Sunday March 27, 2011 6:14:24 am Igor Sheykin wrote:
>> > it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
>> > debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
>> 
>> It's not going to take two years for KDE 4.6 to hit Debian
>> testing. What have you done to help the volunteers?
>
>This question is quite valid
>if you ask me.

We didn't.

>Not everyone is a programmer, so not everyone can just
>help.

What makes you think only programmers are involved in the process?  Package 
maintenance entails a lot of tasks that don't involve reading or writing code.  
Documentation, testing, and communication can be done by almost anyone.  Those 
are just examples.

I ask again: What have you done to help the volunteers?
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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Kete
Hi,
On Sunday March 27, 2011 8:48:45 am Kees de Jong wrote:
> > On Sunday 27 March 2011 14:21:17 Kete wrote:
> > What have you done to help the volunteers?
> 
> Not everyone is a programmer, so not everyone can just
> help.

Never forget:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:59:17 +0200 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> On trečiadienis 26 Sausis 2011 19:09:18 Cassiano Leal wrote:
> > Can I do anything to help
> ... updating debian/copyright that's a really boring job (yet not
> very technical). It's a show-stopper for official archive (either unstable or 
> experimental).

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2011/01/msg00047.html


Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 27 Kovas 2011 16:17:07 Beojan Stanislaus wrote:
> 
> What I don't understand is the reason why the same packaging (as for 4.5.1)
> can't be used (simply updating the version numbers, and uploaders field,
> and such things).

Well, it is not that simple. A tiny package typically requires more changes 
than this. KDE packaging is complex, KDE is huge, it takes much time even to 
barely rebuild the packages.

> Is there a big change in dependancies, or how KDE is
> compiled, of something of that sort?

There will be some major internal packaging changes. And I already noted one 
of the new "user-visible" packaging features but I can quote again:

> This time new
> KDE will not conflict with most third-party applications (e.g. ktorrent,
> kdiff3 etc.) from official archive (however there might be a few crashes,
> not sure yet).

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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Sunday 27 March 2011 13:59:46 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On sekmadienis 27 Kovas 2011 13:14:24 Igor Sheykin wrote:
> > I think this question is very popular in the last few weeks.
> > Nevertheless, "When would be KDE 4.6.x added to debian repos?",
> > or it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
> > debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
> > What are the reasons why there are no new versions of KDE4 ?
> 
> KDE SC 4.6.1 -> http://qt-kde.debian.net/ (ETA a few days). This time new
> KDE will not conflict with most third-party applications (e.g. ktorrent,
> kdiff3 etc.) from official archive (however there might be a few crashes,
> not sure yet).
> 
> Official archive will get KDE SC 4.6.2 or later.
> 
> P.S. Upgrade will not be very smooth for semiofficial KDE SC 4.5.1/4.5.3
> users. Some more advanced apt/aptitude/dpkg experience might be needed. Be
> prepared.

What I don't understand is the reason why the same packaging (as for 4.5.1) 
can't be used (simply updating the version numbers, and uploaders field, and 
such things). Is there a big change in dependancies, or how KDE is compiled, 
of something of that sort?


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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 27 Kovas 2011 13:14:24 Igor Sheykin wrote:
> I think this question is very popular in the last few weeks.
> Nevertheless, "When would be KDE 4.6.x added to debian repos?",
> or it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
> debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
> What are the reasons why there are no new versions of KDE4 ?

KDE SC 4.6.1 -> http://qt-kde.debian.net/ (ETA a few days). This time new KDE 
will not conflict with most third-party applications (e.g. ktorrent, kdiff3 
etc.) from official archive (however there might be a few crashes, not sure 
yet).

Official archive will get KDE SC 4.6.2 or later.

P.S. Upgrade will not be very smooth for semiofficial KDE SC 4.5.1/4.5.3 
users. Some more advanced apt/aptitude/dpkg experience might be needed. Be 
prepared.

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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Sunday 27 March 2011, Igor Sheykin escribió:
> What are the reasons why there are no new versions of KDE4 ?

Don't you understand that Debian packagers work on KDE on their spare time, 
and do it for fun?

Emails like this make the experience much less fun, so emails like this delay 
everything.

You can not give dates, not even tentative, when you are working on something 
on your spare time and is something as complex as Qt and KDE packaging.

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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Kees de Jong
On Sunday 27 March 2011 14:21:17 Kete wrote:
> On Sunday March 27, 2011 6:14:24 am Igor Sheykin wrote:
> > it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
> > debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
> 
> What the fsck? It's not going to take two years for KDE 4.6 to hit Debian
> testing. What have you done to help the volunteers?

This question is quite valid
if you ask me. Not everyone is a programmer, so not everyone can just
help. According to the maintainers them self it should have finished a
few weeks ago:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/02/msg3.html
So it's not ordinary that people get inpatient and ask these questions. If we 
aren't kept up to date then this is the result ;-)

PS: I greatly appreciate the work of the Debian volunteers!!!
I hope KDE 4.6 will hit Testing soon.



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Re: kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Kete
On Sunday March 27, 2011 6:14:24 am Igor Sheykin wrote:
> it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to
> debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".
What the fsck? It's not going to take two years for KDE 4.6 to hit Debian 
testing. What have you done to help the volunteers?


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kde 4.6

2011-03-27 Thread Igor Sheykin

Hello,

I think this question is very popular in the last few weeks.
Nevertheless, "When would be KDE 4.6.x added to debian repos?",
or it would be better to ask "Would some new KDE4 versions added to 
debian repos before Wheezy stable release?".

What are the reasons why there are no new versions of KDE4 ?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Igor Sheykin


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Re: Re: KDE 4.6 : what about kmess?

2011-03-17 Thread xin ouch
so I can use ubuntu package on debian?
I knew the reverse was possible...

thank you!


Re: KDE 4.6 : what about kmess?

2011-03-16 Thread Moreno
you can search for these packages with google

kmess_2.0.6.1-0ubuntu1~lucid~ppa1_amd64.deb
kmess_2.0.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick~ppa1_amd64.deb

I installed first on my debian wheezy and works well

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KDE 4.6 : what about kmess?

2011-03-11 Thread xin ouch
hello everybody!

As everybody know, we'll soon have kde 4.6 \o/\o/
I just have a question: will Kmess will be updated in the same time, or
maybe later?
because a bug make the sid's version of kmess unusable (not really a bug.
it's because of microsoft if I've well understood) and the last release
seems to fix this.

anyway, a big thanks to the KDE Team!!!


xinouch

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apologize (and feel free to insult me).


Re: Kde 4.6 RC1 or 4.5.4 in debian?

2011-01-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Wednesday 05 January 2011 schrieb Claudio F Filho:
> Hi

Hi!

> I am a debian final user that loves kde.
> 
> I saw that have a non official repository[1] into debian.net, but this
> have only some pkgs 4.5.*.
> [1] http://qt-kde.debian.net/

Beware that this repository is not for Debian stable.

> Exist some place with (not [k]ubuntu) packages updated?
> 
> And as we are in a new year, my thanks to all kde/debian team, wishes
> of a 2011 full of realizations, between them, the hope of my change
> from a "final user" to a "volunteer" (in what is possible for me),
> helping this great project.

Usual policy of the Qt/KDE debian team to wait for upstream release 
versions of KDE. I.e. 4.6 instead of 4.6 RC1.

I love to see KDE 4.6 packages. I also like to hear about the plans for 
KDEPIM 4.6. I am a bit vary about it. On one side I like to be able to 
install packages of it in order to test it early and till Wheezy there is 
still a lot of time to polish it. On the other hand I want to be able to 
downgrade KDEPIM 4.4.8 or whats current in that series easily when 4.6 
does not work good enough. So I think packages of KDEPIM 4.6 would be 
nice, but there should also be some for 4.4.8 or so. So maybe KDEPIM 4.6 
should stay in experimental for now. Well KDE 4.6 will stay in 
experimental until Squeeze is released anyhow.

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Kde 4.6 RC1 or 4.5.4 in debian?

2011-01-05 Thread Claudio F Filho

Hi

I am a debian final user that loves kde.

I saw that have a non official repository[1] into debian.net, but this 
have only some pkgs 4.5.*.

[1] http://qt-kde.debian.net/

Exist some place with (not [k]ubuntu) packages updated?

And as we are in a new year, my thanks to all kde/debian team, wishes of 
a 2011 full of realizations, between them, the hope of my change from a 
"final user" to a "volunteer" (in what is possible for me), helping this 
great project.


thanks in advanced,
Claudio


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