Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-14 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 07:07:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
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> Am Sonntag, 4. August 2002 18:00 schrieb Andy Saxena:
> > It used to be a lot easier in KDE2. One just needed the "Dock
> > Application Bar" extension to be active, and starting any WindowMaker
> > applet would automatically dock it without creating an extra entry in
> > the taskbar.
> 
> With that (in KDE2.2.2) I have the problem that the dock application bar is 
> not resizable. It is bigger than my wmapplets and my main KDE bar and i could 
> not find a way to set it to size, lets say middle or small. I couldn't 
> integrate it into the main KDE bar or the external bar either, so I would 
> have to have three bars on my desktop (I've chosen the external window bar).
> Not what I would expect to be a good way of handling this.
> 
> BTW: does anyone know, why xmms cannot be _NOT_ displayed in the window bar, 
> even with kstart? I normally use the xmms dock application plugin to manage 
> it and this conflicts with what KDE2.2.2 does.
> 

Like I said earlier, I must be missing something. In KDE 3 I get
wmCalClock twice when I start it, like I mentioned in my previous
posting. How is that better than the situation in KDE 2?

-Andy




Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-12 Thread Tomas Pospisek's MailLists
(just come back from holidays)

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Eric Christopherson wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:39:53AM -0400, kiss the sun and walk on air wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 05:34:50PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
> > wrote:
> > > kpanel just won't swallow any wmapplets on my KDE3 (from calc)
> > >
> > > I've tried to find s.th. about it on the net but from the sparse info I
> > > found it looks like kpanel _should_ swallow them. kdock in fact does so -
> > > only kpanel does not.
> > >
> > > Has anybody had any success with that or has a hint on how to achieve it?
> > > *t
> > >
> > > PS: I'm speaking about f.ex. wmtuxtime (from toshutils), wminet or wmnd.
> >
> > I didn't even know kpanel should do it! I use a program called
> > kappdock that works nicely:
> > http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~bigboss/kappdock/
>
> Kicker comes with the "Dock Application Bar" extension. You have to add it
> by right clicking on kicker, then Add -> Extension -> Dock Application Bar.
> It is able to dock WindowMaker dockacks, but AFAIK cannot "swallow" ones
> like (e.g.) gtkuickres.

Yeah, but I hate cruft on my screen. Please "Dock Application Bar", go
away. Any idea why this feature isn't in kpanel?
*t


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Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Freitag, 9. August 2002 00:33 schrieben Sie:
> I'm just guessing here, but it might have to do with XMMS's tendency to do
> all its own window decor and management, instead of the window manager. Try
> setting it (somewhere in preferences) to allow the WM to manage it, and
> then try starting it again with kstart.

Yes, it works this way. The dock app can now make it disappear from the 
taskbar. But it also adds an unnecessary frame around it that kstart cannot 
get rid of because it lacks such an option (which should also address all 
subwindows like playlist and equalizer).

*sigh* KDE really is far from perfect...

HS

PS: This is still about KDE2.2.2

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Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Sonntag, 4. August 2002 18:00 schrieb Andy Saxena:
> It used to be a lot easier in KDE2. One just needed the "Dock
> Application Bar" extension to be active, and starting any WindowMaker
> applet would automatically dock it without creating an extra entry in
> the taskbar.

With that (in KDE2.2.2) I have the problem that the dock application bar is 
not resizable. It is bigger than my wmapplets and my main KDE bar and i could 
not find a way to set it to size, lets say middle or small. I couldn't 
integrate it into the main KDE bar or the external bar either, so I would 
have to have three bars on my desktop (I've chosen the external window bar).
Not what I would expect to be a good way of handling this.

BTW: does anyone know, why xmms cannot be _NOT_ displayed in the window bar, 
even with kstart? I normally use the xmms dock application plugin to manage 
it and this conflicts with what KDE2.2.2 does.

HS

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Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-04 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 10:06:16PM -0500, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:50:46PM -0500, Chris Thiel wrote:
> > Is there a way to make these wmapplets NOT show up on the taskbar when 
> > running 
> > in the Dock Application Bar?
> 
> Use kstart --skiptaskbar . For more info on kstart, type kstart
> --help.

It used to be a lot easier in KDE2. One just needed the "Dock
Application Bar" extension to be active, and starting any WindowMaker
applet would automatically dock it without creating an extra entry in
the taskbar.

The KDE3 way is far more complicated and doesn't work cleanly. For e.g.,
doing 
$ kstart --skiptaskbar wmCalClock
gives me wmCalClock docked correctly, but it also produces an extra
empty placeholder window in the dock app. bar.

Am I missing an option here?

-Andy




Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-03 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:50:46PM -0500, Chris Thiel wrote:
> Is there a way to make these wmapplets NOT show up on the taskbar when 
> running 
> in the Dock Application Bar?

Use kstart --skiptaskbar . For more info on kstart, type kstart
--help.

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Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-02 Thread Chris Thiel
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On Friday 02 August 2002 02:01 am, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:39:53AM -0400, kiss the sun and walk on air 
wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 05:34:50PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
wrote:
> > > kpanel just won't swallow any wmapplets on my KDE3 (from calc)
> > >
> > > I've tried to find s.th. about it on the net but from the sparse info I
> > > found it looks like kpanel _should_ swallow them. kdock in fact does so
> > > - only kpanel does not.
> > >
> > > Has anybody had any success with that or has a hint on how to achieve
> > > it? *t
> > >
> > > PS: I'm speaking about f.ex. wmtuxtime (from toshutils), wminet or
> > > wmnd.
> >
> > I didn't even know kpanel should do it! I use a program called
> > kappdock that works nicely:
> > http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~bigboss/kappdock/
>
> Kicker comes with the "Dock Application Bar" extension. You have to add it
> by right clicking on kicker, then Add -> Extension -> Dock Application Bar.
> It is able to dock WindowMaker dockacks, but AFAIK cannot "swallow" ones
> like (e.g.) gtkuickres.

Is there a way to make these wmapplets NOT show up on the taskbar when running 
in the Dock Application Bar?
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Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-08-02 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:39:53AM -0400, kiss the sun and walk on air wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 05:34:50PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
> wrote:
> > kpanel just won't swallow any wmapplets on my KDE3 (from calc)
> > 
> > I've tried to find s.th. about it on the net but from the sparse info I
> > found it looks like kpanel _should_ swallow them. kdock in fact does so -
> > only kpanel does not.
> > 
> > Has anybody had any success with that or has a hint on how to achieve it?
> > *t
> > 
> > PS: I'm speaking about f.ex. wmtuxtime (from toshutils), wminet or wmnd.
> 
> I didn't even know kpanel should do it! I use a program called
> kappdock that works nicely:
> http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~bigboss/kappdock/

Kicker comes with the "Dock Application Bar" extension. You have to add it
by right clicking on kicker, then Add -> Extension -> Dock Application Bar.
It is able to dock WindowMaker dockacks, but AFAIK cannot "swallow" ones
like (e.g.) gtkuickres.

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Re: kpanel and wmapplets

2002-07-25 Thread kiss the sun and walk on air
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 05:34:50PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> kpanel just won't swallow any wmapplets on my KDE3 (from calc)
> 
> I've tried to find s.th. about it on the net but from the sparse info I
> found it looks like kpanel _should_ swallow them. kdock in fact does so -
> only kpanel does not.
> 
> Has anybody had any success with that or has a hint on how to achieve it?
> *t
> 
> PS: I'm speaking about f.ex. wmtuxtime (from toshutils), wminet or wmnd.

I didn't even know kpanel should do it! I use a program called
kappdock that works nicely:
http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~bigboss/kappdock/

i have my kpanel at the bottom left, talking up 70% of the width with
kappdock on the right with some docapps (wmtuxtime, + others :)

-pete

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kpanel and wmapplets

2002-07-25 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
kpanel just won't swallow any wmapplets on my KDE3 (from calc)

I've tried to find s.th. about it on the net but from the sparse info I
found it looks like kpanel _should_ swallow them. kdock in fact does so -
only kpanel does not.

Has anybody had any success with that or has a hint on how to achieve it?
*t

PS: I'm speaking about f.ex. wmtuxtime (from toshutils), wminet or wmnd.


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