Re: mutilated menus

[Frank Van Damme]

On Tuesday 27 August 2002 05:49, Ray Dougharty wrote:
> Erik,  Thanks!  That was the magic bullet.  

Missed Erik's post but I shot the problem too ;-)

Thanks!




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Re: mutilated menus

[Karolina Lindqvist]

måndagen den 26 augusti 2002 21.57 skrev Achim Bohnet:

> Try
>
>   locate ui_standards.rc; kde-config --path config # + /ui
>   locate kmail/kmmainwin.rc;  kde-config --path apps   # + 
> /kmail
>
> and check if the locatation on disk (locate) is the one searched by kde
> (kde-config). Maybe it's a missing file or one of those strange /etc/kderc
> side effects when running kde build from source.

Thank you very much for that hint. I got a lead now. Making the symbolic link
  ln -s /etc/kde3/ui  ~/.kde/share/config
gave me the menus. Now that is not the correct solution, I just made it to 
confirm the problem. There appears to be more path-related problems that 
might or might not be for those with the "official" packaging. 

-- Karolina

Re: mutilated menus

[Fred K Ollinger]

> the same scenario trying to upgrade X on a couple Debian machines.  It
> seems that dpkg --remove doesn't do as complete a job as dpkg --purge.

True.

> It would seem that --remove leaves some scripts/data/info behind that
> may make subsequent reinstalls skip installing some files from within a
> package, maybe it thinks they are already there.  --purge seems to wipe

That's the point actually. So you don't have to make your choices all over
again. Really, it's not a bug, it's a featureTM.

> the slate completely clean.  At any rate, KDE 3.0.2 is now working
> wonderfully. Thanks for your help!

Seems like the upgrade should take care
of this better. That is, if the upgrade needs to do a purge, it should do
it automatically. I wonder how to report/fix this.

I'm glad that things are working.


Fred

Re: mutilated menus

[Ray Dougharty]

Here is the link to the previous occurance of this problem.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200208/msg00087.html
On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Erik Johansson wrote:
You are probably having the same problem as I did. See if you have the file 
/etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc. If not, download it from the kde cvs
http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/*checkout*/kdelibs/kdeui/ui_standards.rc?rev=HEAD&only_with_tag=KDE_3_0_2_RELEASE&content-type=text/plain 
and place it in /etc/kde3/ui/

I don't know why the file is not installed, because it is in the list (dpkg -L 
kdelibs-data | grep ui). Maybe a result of not doing a complete purge of 
kde3-beta debs before install??
Erik,  Thanks!  That was the magic bullet.  The addition of the
ui_standard file corrected the menu issues completely.  And yes, I believe
you are right about not completely purging previous versions.  I ran into
the same scenario trying to upgrade X on a couple Debian machines.  It
seems that dpkg --remove doesn't do as complete a job as dpkg --purge.
It would seem that --remove leaves some scripts/data/info behind that
may make subsequent reinstalls skip installing some files from within a
package, maybe it thinks they are already there.  --purge seems to wipe
the slate completely clean.  At any rate, KDE 3.0.2 is now working
wonderfully. Thanks for your help!



Frank Van Damme wrote:
Yo,
I don't know what you guys' kmail menus look like but mine read like this:
file - edit- view - folder - message - No text! - view.
The last two contain the following items:
No text! :
configure filters
configure pop filters
configure filters
configure pop filters
View:
same as the first "view" menu, that is: 5 items about headers, 3 about 
attachments, 1 about fixed width fonts.

I never noticed it since upgrading to kde3 (never needed to change my prefs).
Where does kmail actually store it's prefs, account information and so on?
 

Re: mutilated menus

[Achim Bohnet]

On Monday 26 August 2002 19:16, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
> måndagen den 26 augusti 2002 17.41 skrev Frank Van Damme:
> > Yo,
> >
> > I don't know what you guys' kmail menus look like but mine read like this:
> >
> > file - edit- view - folder - message - No text! - view.
> 
> Mine is:
> file - edit - view - go - folder - message - No text! - No text! - No text!
> 
> But I am using kde 3.1 beta
> It didn't improve on that problem it seems like :-)
> 
> Maybe kde is picking up the information from a file/directory that is not 
> properly changed by the debian directory/file rearrangement, so the file is 
> not there. But how to find it?

Try

locate ui_standards.rc; kde-config --path config # + /ui
locate kmail/kmmainwin.rc;  kde-config --path apps   # + 
/kmail

and check if the locatation on disk (locate) is the one searched by kde 
(kde-config).
Maybe it's a missing file or one of those strange /etc/kderc side effects when 
running
kde build from source.


Achim
> 
> -- Karolina
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Re: mutilated menus

[Nathaniel W. Turner]

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On Monday 26 August 2002 11:41 am, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Yo,
>
> I don't know what you guys' kmail menus look like but mine read like this:
>
> file - edit- view - folder - message - No text! - view.

This sounds similar to a problem that someone else had a few weeks ago.  I 
would search the archives for this mailing list.  I think a system-wide 
resource file (/etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc ?) was corrupted or something.  
Do any of your other applications have messed-up menus?

You might try apt-get install --reinstall kdelibs-data if that is the case.

> I never noticed it since upgrading to kde3 (never needed to change my
> prefs). Where does kmail actually store it's prefs, account information and
> so on?

(Almost) all KDE apps store their settings in ~/.kde/share/config, but I don't 
think what you're seeing is related this.

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Re: mutilated menus

[Karolina Lindqvist]

måndagen den 26 augusti 2002 17.41 skrev Frank Van Damme:
> Yo,
>
> I don't know what you guys' kmail menus look like but mine read like this:
>
> file - edit- view - folder - message - No text! - view.

Mine is:
file - edit - view - go - folder - message - No text! - No text! - No text!

But I am using kde 3.1 beta
It didn't improve on that problem it seems like :-)

Maybe kde is picking up the information from a file/directory that is not 
properly changed by the debian directory/file rearrangement, so the file is 
not there. But how to find it?

-- Karolina

mutilated menus

[Frank Van Damme]

Yo,

I don't know what you guys' kmail menus look like but mine read like this:

file - edit- view - folder - message - No text! - view.

The last two contain the following items:

No text! :
configure filters
configure pop filters
configure filters
configure pop filters

View:
same as the first "view" menu, that is: 5 items about headers, 3 about 
attachments, 1 about fixed width fonts.

I never noticed it since upgrading to kde3 (never needed to change my prefs).
Where does kmail actually store it's prefs, account information and so on?
 

-- 
Frank Van Damme
homepage:   www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9917684
jabber (=IM):   [EMAIL PROTECTED]