Bug#584905: marked as done (plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install)

2010-10-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: plasma-netbook
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: important

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
packaging problem.

The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

[1]. 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


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Source: kdebase-workspace
Source-Version: 4:4.4.5-4

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
kdebase-workspace, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

kde-window-manager_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kde-window-manager_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-bin_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-bin_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-data_4.4.5-4_all.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-data_4.4.5-4_all.deb
kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-dev_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-dev_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-4.debian.tar.gz
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-4.debian.tar.gz
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-4.dsc
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-4.dsc
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-4_all.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-4_all.deb
kdm_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdm_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
klipper_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/klipper_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
ksysguard_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/ksysguard_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
ksysguardd_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/ksysguardd_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libkdecorations4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkdecorations4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libkephal4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkephal4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libkscreensaver5_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkscreensaver5_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libksgrd4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libksgrd4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libksignalplotter4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libksignalplotter4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libkwineffects1a_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkwineffects1a_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libkworkspace4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkworkspace4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
liblsofui4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/liblsofui4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libplasma-geolocation-interface4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libplasma-geolocation-interface4_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libplasmaclock4a_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libplasmaclock4a_4.4.5-4_amd64.deb
libplasmagenericshell4_4.4.5

Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-09-27 Thread Sten Heinze
Hi,

I experienced this bug on a fresh squeeze install (2 days ago).

Removing the Hidden=true from plasma-netbook.desktop (as introduced by the 
kubuntu-patch?) seems to help and the netbook shell comes up on every start 
after this change.
I am not sure that this is the correct way to solve this, as I haven't tested 
what happens with plasma-desktop and -netbook installed. Are both started if 
none is hidden? It might be better to try fixing the kcm module, as aseigo 
pointed out that an unselected plasma-shell should have Hidden=true. (The 
drop-down list for the workspace form-factor is systemsettings is disabled for 
me though.)

Sten



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Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install isn't fixed

2010-09-22 Thread sonix
Hi!
Sorry, but it seems that the bug plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh 
install isn't fixed:
Yesterday I've installed a fresh Squeeze from 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ (20-Sep-2010 
06:12).

Packages during installation:
Desktop environment
Standard
Laptop

after the first boot
aptitude install kde-plasma-netbook

Reboot and first login with KDM shows me the KDE-Splash, the first four Icons 
glows up and after this I see a black screen with mouse-courser. I have to open 
a command line with ALT + F2, type and send plasma-netbook and 
kde-plasma-netbook starts. But autostart for kde-plasma-netbook don't work, 
tried a lot of times.

Would you please re-check the meta-package kde-plasma-netbook?

If you need more Information about my installation, I subscribed this bug-list, 
just let me know.

Many thanks!
cu,
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Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-08-27 Thread mancausoft
Package: plasma-netbook
Version: 4:4.4.5-3
Severity: normal


I try to install plasma-netbook using kde-plasma-netbook, 
but the bug is still present. 

plasma-netbook don't autostart.

I cant select a Form factor on Workspace setting, netbook is 
selected but it is gray.

# ls -lh  /usr/share/autostart
totale 56K
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4,4K 29 apr 21.57 kaddressbookmigrator.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3,3K 29 mag 08.57
kde4-knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  11K 31
gen  2010 klipper.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6,4K 31 gen  2010
konqy_preload.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2,8K 29 apr 21.54
krunner.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  11K 29 apr 21.54
nepomukserver.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5,1K 10 ago 12.00
plasma-netbook.desktop


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (850, 'testing'), (800, 'unstable'), (750, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages plasma-netbook depends on:
ii  kdebase-runtime   4:4.4.5-1  runtime components from
the offici ii  libc6 2.11.2-2   Embedded GNU C
Library: Shared lib ii  libkdecore5   4:4.4.5-1  the
KDE Platform Core Library ii  libkdeui5 4:4.4.5-1
the KDE Platform User Interface Li ii  libkephal4
4:4.4.5-3  API for easier handling of multihe ii
libkutils44:4.4.5-1  various utility classes for
the KD ii  libplasma34:4.4.5-1  the Plasma Library
for the KDE Pla ii  libplasmagenericshell44:4.4.5-3  shared
elements for all the plasma ii  libqt4-dbus
4:4.6.3-1  Qt 4 D-Bus module ii  libqtcore4
4:4.6.3-1  Qt 4 core module ii  libqtgui4
4:4.6.3-1  Qt 4 GUI module ii  libstdc++64.4.4-1
The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii  libx11-6
2:1.3.3-3  X11 client-side library ii  libxext6
2:1.1.2-1  X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii
plasma-widgets-workspace  4:4.4.5-3  plasma widgets and
containments fo

Versions of packages plasma-netbook recommends:
ii  kdebase-workspace 4:4.4.5-3  KDE Plasma Workspace
components

plasma-netbook suggests no packages.

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Bug#584905: marked as done (plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install)

2010-07-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:08:19 +0300
with message-id 201007261008.24273.modes...@vainius.eu
and subject line Re: Bug#590336: Black desktop with plasma-netbook
has caused the Debian Bug report #590336,
regarding plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install
to be marked as done.

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Package: plasma-netbook
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: important

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
packaging problem.

The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

[1]. 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


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Version: 4.4.4.5-1

forcemerge 584905 590336
thanks

Hello,

On pirmadienis 26 Liepa 2010 08:43:58 Matthias Faulstich wrote:
 The bug #584905
 plasma-netbook doesn't auto-start on a fresh install
 still exists.
 
 plasma-netbook still doesn't start automatically in a fresh debian
 squeeze/testing installation. After login one see a black screen with a
 mouse cursor.
 
 The startup method described as a solution for bug #584905, which selects
 plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook for startup, need both packages being
 installed.
 It doesn't work, if plasma-netbook is installed alone.
 
 Suggestions:
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop
 should be created and a dual installation of both, plasma-desktop and
 plasma- netbook, should be prevented by package-management.

Have you read the referenced bug report (#584905) [1] till the end before 
opening a new one? It has been fixed in 4.4.5. If the fix does not work, 
please reopen #584905.

kdebase-workspace (4:4.4.5-1) unstable; urgency=low
[ snip ]
   [ George Kiagiadakis ]
   * Add patch 01_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff from kubuntu
 to fix plasma-netbook autostart when only plasma-netbook
 is installed. (Closes: #584905)
[ snip ]

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/584905

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Bug#584905: marked as done (plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install)

2010-07-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: plasma-netbook
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: important

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
packaging problem.

The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

[1]. 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


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Source: kdebase-workspace
Source-Version: 4:4.4.5-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
kdebase-workspace, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

kde-window-manager_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kde-window-manager_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-bin_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-bin_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-data_4.4.5-1_all.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-data_4.4.5-1_all.deb
kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-dev_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-dev_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-1.debian.tar.gz
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-1.debian.tar.gz
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-1.dsc
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-1.dsc
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-1_all.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5-1_all.deb
kdebase-workspace_4.4.5.orig.tar.bz2
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace_4.4.5.orig.tar.bz2
kdm_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdm_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
klipper_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/klipper_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
ksysguard_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/ksysguard_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
ksysguardd_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
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libkdecorations4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
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libkephal4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkephal4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libkscreensaver5_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkscreensaver5_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libksgrd4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libksgrd4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libksignalplotter4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libksignalplotter4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libkwineffects1a_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkwineffects1a_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libkworkspace4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libkworkspace4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
liblsofui4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/liblsofui4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libplasma-geolocation-interface4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
  to main/k/kdebase-workspace/libplasma-geolocation-interface4_4.4.5-1_amd64.deb
libplasmaclock4a_4.4.5

Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-08 Thread George Kiagiadakis
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, George Kiagiadakis
kiagiadakis.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

 I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
 packaging problem.

 The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
 has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
 indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
 plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

 I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
 both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
 going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
 plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
 systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

 [1]. 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


Hi,
I tested this on my system and I noticed that both plasma-desktop and
plasma-netbook can autostart without having any plasma-*.desktop file
in /usr/share/autostart. I wonder how this happens and why it doesn't
work on your system, Brendon. Scott, do you know any more details
about how this is handled? I am still not convinced about why this
patch solves the problem.

Best regards,
George



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Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-08 Thread Scott Kitterman


George Kiagiadakis kiagiadakis.geo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, George Kiagiadakis
kiagiadakis.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas 
 plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with 
 KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

 I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
 packaging problem.

 The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
 has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
 indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
 plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

 I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
 both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
 going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
 plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
 systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

 [1]. 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


Hi,
I tested this on my system and I noticed that both plasma-desktop and
plasma-netbook can autostart without having any plasma-*.desktop file
in /usr/share/autostart. I wonder how this happens and why it doesn't
work on your system, Brendon. Scott, do you know any more details
about how this is handled? I am still not convinced about why this
patch solves the problem.

There is a kcm that can control which plasma starts when both plasma-desktop 
and plasma-netbook are installed without reference to autostart files. The 
upstream design for 4.4 worked fine if both or just desktop were installed,  
but didn't consider the netbook only case for first run.  The autostart file is 
a work around for the hole in the design. 

Scott K

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Re: Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-08 Thread George Kiagiadakis
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, George Kiagiadakis
kiagiadakis.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

 I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
 packaging problem.

 The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
 has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
 indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
 plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

 I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
 both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
 going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
 plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
 systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

 [1]. 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


Hi,
I tested this on my system and I noticed that both plasma-desktop and
plasma-netbook can autostart without having any plasma-*.desktop file
in /usr/share/autostart. I wonder how this happens and why it doesn't
work on your system, Brendon. Scott, do you know any more details
about how this is handled? I am still not convinced about why this
patch solves the problem.

Best regards,
George


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Re: Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-08 Thread Scott Kitterman


George Kiagiadakis kiagiadakis.geo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, George Kiagiadakis
kiagiadakis.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas 
 plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with 
 KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

 I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
 packaging problem.

 The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
 has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
 indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
 plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

 I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
 both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
 going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
 plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
 systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

 [1]. 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


Hi,
I tested this on my system and I noticed that both plasma-desktop and
plasma-netbook can autostart without having any plasma-*.desktop file
in /usr/share/autostart. I wonder how this happens and why it doesn't
work on your system, Brendon. Scott, do you know any more details
about how this is handled? I am still not convinced about why this
patch solves the problem.

There is a kcm that can control which plasma starts when both plasma-desktop 
and plasma-netbook are installed without reference to autostart files. The 
upstream design for 4.4 worked fine if both or just desktop were installed,  
but didn't consider the netbook only case for first run.  The autostart file is 
a work around for the hole in the design. 

Scott K

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Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread George Kiagiadakis
Package: plasma-netbook
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: important

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
packaging problem.

The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

[1]. 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff



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Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
KDE 4.4 and 4.5 handle plasma-netbook autostart differently. That patch is the 
one you want for 4.4.



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Re: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi list,

I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart. 
/usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent, 
plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package). 
Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook 
won't.

Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream 
sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet 
apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE, 
perhaps?

Peace,
Brendon


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Re: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread George Kiagiadakis
Package: plasma-netbook
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: important

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
 /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
 plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
 Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
 won't.

 Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
 sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
 apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S

 I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
 perhaps?

 Peace,
 Brendon

I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
packaging problem.

The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.

I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
plasma-desktop is installed and a netbook form factor is selected in
systemsettings? (I had tried that once)

[1]. 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff


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Re: Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
KDE 4.4 and 4.5 handle plasma-netbook autostart differently. That patch is the 
one you want for 4.4.


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plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-06 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi list,

I hope posting this here is appropriate. I just got myself a new Eee PC 
recently and installed Debian on it. I decided I'd give plasma-netbook a try, 
so I installed that package, rather than plasma-desktop, along with the rest 
of a typical workspace (kde-standard and several others).

I quite like using plasma-netbook, but the problem is that it never starts 
automatically when I log in. I always have to alt-F2 and use krunner to launch 
it. Google found me a couple of work-arounds that will probably do the job, 
but I'm not sure what the correct approach is.

It ought to start on its own, right? It's basically a fresh install, so I'm 
not sure what the problem is. Anyone with similar experience, or know what I 
should do in this situation?

Peace,
Brendon


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Re: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-06 Thread George Kiagiadakis
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I hope posting this here is appropriate. I just got myself a new Eee PC
 recently and installed Debian on it. I decided I'd give plasma-netbook a try,
 so I installed that package, rather than plasma-desktop, along with the rest
 of a typical workspace (kde-standard and several others).

 I quite like using plasma-netbook, but the problem is that it never starts
 automatically when I log in. I always have to alt-F2 and use krunner to launch
 it. Google found me a couple of work-arounds that will probably do the job,
 but I'm not sure what the correct approach is.

 It ought to start on its own, right? It's basically a fresh install, so I'm
 not sure what the problem is. Anyone with similar experience, or know what I
 should do in this situation?

 Peace,
 Brendon


Sounds like a bug. Try going to systemsettings-Desktop-Workspace and
make sure it says Form factor: Netbook. Maybe it doesn't correctly
detect the absence of plasma-desktop and tries to launch it instead of
launching plasma-netbook.

Regards,
George


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Re: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-06 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi George

George Kiagiadakis wrote (2010-06-06 23:12):
 Try going to systemsettings-Desktop-Workspace and
 make sure it says Form factor: Netbook.

I had a look at that. The options were grayed-out and disabled, but it did say 
Netbook.

 Maybe it doesn't correctly
 detect the absence of plasma-desktop and tries to launch it instead of
 launching plasma-netbook.

Possible, I guess. Would there be a way to tell if this was the case?

 Sounds like a bug.

That's my suspicion, too. The next question is, is it a bug that has anything 
to do with the packaging, or is it an upstream bug?

Peace,
Brendon


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