Re: sid version up
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 15:18, Ralf Nolden wrote: > Yes, but who cares about libqt2 ? We're using libqt3 :-) and all the > kde2/qt2 stuff gets replaced as soon as KDE 3.1 is in sid. libqt3 is > already thre in 3.1.1, just not ported over with gcc-3.2. Very good, when can we expect the first kde3 packages 2B on the mirrors? :-) Frank
Re: sid version up
onsdagen den 8 januari 2003 15.25 skrev Colin Watson: > Karolina was talking about "old applications", which I assumed to mean > KDE 2. Actually, I meant ALL old applications, meaning everything before KDE in sid. So KDE will enter sid with no applications at all. Some might come very fast, if someone adopts any packages or if some old package maintainer builds new. I might adopt some packages, but the procedure to become a debian developer appears so complicated and slow that I don't feel it is something to try. Karolina
Re: sid version up
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 03:18:28PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2003 14:48, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:25:45PM +0100, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > > > Anyway, the g++ 3.2 transition has started full time, according to an > > > announcement, so I guess that means that all KDE packages going to SID > > > will be transitioned. And all old applications will become > > > non-working. > > > > The transition plan states that anything depending on libqt2 will be > > left on the old ABI. > > Yes, but who cares about libqt2 ? We're using libqt3 :-) and all the > kde2/qt2 stuff gets replaced as soon as KDE 3.1 is in sid. Karolina was talking about "old applications", which I assumed to mean KDE 2. While those will be removed from the archive, they will still be on people's systems, and they should be able to have both libqt2 and libqt3 installed (and perhaps different versions of the base KDE libraries too) without anything breaking. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid version up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2003 14:48, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:25:45PM +0100, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > > Anyway, the g++ 3.2 transition has started full time, according to an > > announcement, so I guess that means that all KDE packages going to SID > > will be transitioned. And all old applications will become > > non-working. > > The transition plan states that anything depending on libqt2 will be > left on the old ABI. Yes, but who cares about libqt2 ? We're using libqt3 :-) and all the kde2/qt2 stuff gets replaced as soon as KDE 3.1 is in sid. libqt3 is already thre in 3.1.1, just not ported over with gcc-3.2. Ralf > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+HDM1u0nKi+w1Ky8RAr+QAJ41Hgwkz7d/UG9KW12UwrPC++gvHgCgglco 154IdIrUZzAJlTcSNnrYNYQ= =eAqN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sid version up
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:25:45PM +0100, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > Anyway, the g++ 3.2 transition has started full time, according to an > announcement, so I guess that means that all KDE packages going to SID > will be transitioned. And all old applications will become > non-working. The transition plan states that anything depending on libqt2 will be left on the old ABI. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid version up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dienstag, 7. Januar 2003 12:42, Graeme Merrall wrote: > Found a small problem with the sid packages. I'm sorry I can't provide > too much more info but knotify was continuously crashing after > installing the packages. > The little into I could get said X11::Arts (hope that's right) could not > find libx11globalcomm.la which was in the libarts-alsa in the main sid > archive. > > After installing the 'Ralf' debs I found the file lurking in > libarts1-dev. I know there's been a conversation regarding .la and .so > files but it might pay to either move it out of the dev package or add a > dependency. Thanks, I'll move it into the libarts1 package then. Anyone else experienced this problem with running Alsa ? I guess it's only happening with Alsa as nobody else reported that problem. Ralf > > Cheers, > Graeme - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GsJ9u0nKi+w1Ky8RAgQUAKCNiGZcwES3qvmgek0VP6ZUW7YsDQCfQ4pB wPxjStGzEzOvef4A4gYBqOs= =1/+2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sid version up
Found a small problem with the sid packages. I'm sorry I can't provide too much more info but knotify was continuously crashing after installing the packages. The little into I could get said X11::Arts (hope that's right) could not find libx11globalcomm.la which was in the libarts-alsa in the main sid archive. After installing the 'Ralf' debs I found the file lurking in libarts1-dev. I know there's been a conversation regarding .la and .so files but it might pay to either move it out of the dev package or add a dependency. Cheers, Graeme pgpWwn5jVJcUF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sid version up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 January 2003 22:21, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote: > One question: running unstable, woody debs work great - is there any > need to come to sid's ones? Yes, the are some major changes eg glibc6 in sid that is different from woody! thats important eg for kopete and there are much more libraries that are different in sid versus woody. but i think the importent thing is if you want to guarantee a stable build you should relay on packages compiled for the target system. sergio > Thanks > Vlada > > On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 02:01, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ > > > > kdemultimedia is missing due to xine_artsplugin compile error with the > > latest xine version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is trying to take care of > > that but there's currently no other way than I guess grabbing my last > > backported version and pinning it. Although, you could have libxine0 > > (wich is 0.9.8 ) and the current libxine1 (which is the one not working) > > installed in parallel. The last working version is still in testing so > > you can use that instead of the backported one. > > > > kdeaddons can't be compiled likewise because it requires kdemultimedia. > > > > For additional packages, the ones in applications/ from the woody deb > > should work and you should be able to use both deb lines at the same > > time. > > > > Ralf > > > > > > - -- > > We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. > > - > > Ralf Nolden > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project > > http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+GNWEu0nKi+w1Ky8RAv87AJ4qhaBak8OVKj0tiPfbiwoC/OA4yACeLZts > > 8SfLCTCv7SgDepqPfofKSmM= > > =qHtv > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GfwjVP5w5vF/2y8RAlVeAJ44A+oQ3qIl1/wZDupfPsMKav8qZACgi/J2 UCjlYDwyUjcviOI9cTrLUQY= =pVsA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sid version up
One question: running unstable, woody debs work great - is there any need to come to sid's ones? Thanks Vlada On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 02:01, Ralf Nolden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ > > kdemultimedia is missing due to xine_artsplugin compile error with the latest > xine version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is trying to take care of that but > there's currently no other way than I guess grabbing my last backported > version and pinning it. Although, you could have libxine0 (wich is 0.9.8 ) > and the current libxine1 (which is the one not working) installed in > parallel. The last working version is still in testing so you can use that > instead of the backported one. > > kdeaddons can't be compiled likewise because it requires kdemultimedia. > > For additional packages, the ones in applications/ from the woody deb should > work and you should be able to use both deb lines at the same time. > > Ralf > > > - -- > We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. > - > Ralf Nolden > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project > http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+GNWEu0nKi+w1Ky8RAv87AJ4qhaBak8OVKj0tiPfbiwoC/OA4yACeLZts > 8SfLCTCv7SgDepqPfofKSmM= > =qHtv > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: sid version up
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ Excellent work Ralf. Thanks alot... Working well here... Mark pgpxV9yt4t8U4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sid version up
On Monday 06 January 2003 05:20, Marcos Dione wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ > > do you ever sleep? > > -- Santa Claus, where do we send the milk and cookies? It might help :) Switching over to sid sources now for testing, will try a fresh install from scratch again tommorow.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: sid version up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 6. Januar 2003 15:25, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > måndagen den 6 januari 2003 02.01 skrev Ralf Nolden: > > kdemultimedia is missing due to xine_artsplugin compile error with the > > latest xine version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is trying to take care of > > that but there's currently no other way than I guess grabbing my last > > backported version and pinning it. Although, you could have libxine0 > > (wich is 0.9.8 ) and the current libxine1 (which is the one not working) > > installed in parallel. The last working version is still in testing so > > you can use that instead of the backported one. > > I am using libxine 0.9.13, but otherwise exactly the same problem. It is > possible to have libxine0 and libxine1 both installed, so this should be no > problem except for the person who want to recompile kdemultimedia. > > Would it not be better if the libxine1 dev library would be called > libxine1-dev, now when the new library is incompatible with the old? Tell that to the libxine maintainer :-) > > Anyway, the g++ 3.2 transition has started full time, according to an > announcement, so I guess that means that all KDE packages going to SID will > be transitioned. And all old applications will become non-working. Yes, I'm monitoring this. We'll see what happens this time :-) Ralf > > I will stay with the old g++ 2.95 until it becomes too troublesome. > > Karolina - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GaAEu0nKi+w1Ky8RAmw1AJ9SiAZyza1dAeonHPT5CxnFKq3HvQCff/OC lB2ItjaSxJgD8lHYMzuXOWI= =pFkB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: sid version up
måndagen den 6 januari 2003 02.01 skrev Ralf Nolden: > kdemultimedia is missing due to xine_artsplugin compile error with the > latest xine version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is trying to take care of that > but there's currently no other way than I guess grabbing my last backported > version and pinning it. Although, you could have libxine0 (wich is 0.9.8 ) > and the current libxine1 (which is the one not working) installed in > parallel. The last working version is still in testing so you can use that > instead of the backported one. I am using libxine 0.9.13, but otherwise exactly the same problem. It is possible to have libxine0 and libxine1 both installed, so this should be no problem except for the person who want to recompile kdemultimedia. Would it not be better if the libxine1 dev library would be called libxine1-dev, now when the new library is incompatible with the old? Anyway, the g++ 3.2 transition has started full time, according to an announcement, so I guess that means that all KDE packages going to SID will be transitioned. And all old applications will become non-working. I will stay with the old g++ 2.95 until it becomes too troublesome. Karolina
Re: sid version up
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ do you ever sleep? -- well-designed technology should allow people the luxury of ignorance -- Eric S. Raymond
Re: sid version up
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ I'll be first to say, Ralf - you are the man :) Cheers, Graeme pgpj6Ktm4NiFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
sid version up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ kdemultimedia is missing due to xine_artsplugin compile error with the latest xine version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is trying to take care of that but there's currently no other way than I guess grabbing my last backported version and pinning it. Although, you could have libxine0 (wich is 0.9.8 ) and the current libxine1 (which is the one not working) installed in parallel. The last working version is still in testing so you can use that instead of the backported one. kdeaddons can't be compiled likewise because it requires kdemultimedia. For additional packages, the ones in applications/ from the woody deb should work and you should be able to use both deb lines at the same time. Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GNWEu0nKi+w1Ky8RAv87AJ4qhaBak8OVKj0tiPfbiwoC/OA4yACeLZts 8SfLCTCv7SgDepqPfofKSmM= =qHtv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
