Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 26. November 2002 22:55 schrieb Jeff Keller: > Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Something is wrong with your setup. > > Hmm. Is there a diagnostician in the house? :-) > The only thing non-standard that I know of in my system > is that I have gdb held back, and I don't think that explains > what I'm seeing. Specifically: > > 1. It looks like libqt3-mt_3.0.5-4 requires libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13), > which my system doesn't have. Does Woody have such a version? > (http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages.html shows > libc6 2.2.5-6.) The sources that point to the sid packages require 2.2.5-13 (see below for woody requirements). > 2. It looks like libqt3-mt_3.0.5-4 replaces libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.5-3); > is that ">=" really right? In the woody packages this is in the Depends: field, in the sid packages this is in th Replaces: field. Don't know why but it seems to work... # apt-cache show libc6 | grep -e Version Version: 2.2.5-11.2 Version: 2.2.5-6 # apt-cache show libqt3-mt | grep -e 'Version\|Depends\|Replaces\|^$' Version: 2:3.0.5-4 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.5-4), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibmesa3 | libgl1, xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Version: 2:3.0.3-20020329-1 Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libfreetype6, libgl1, libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.3-1), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) So, whatever you did there, you have a different results. I have the following deb lines: - --- deb http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian-security woody/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian woody-proposed-updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian-non-US woody-proposed-updates/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian woody main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian-security woody/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian woody-proposed-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/debian-non-US woody-proposed-updates/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody ./ - --- So that's what I said: something's wrong with your setup (I meant the apt sources). Hendrik PS: Your mailing programs does not set the In-Reply-To: and References: headers :( - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94/tgzvr6q9zCwcERAva/AKCOBG2t6pQBq89EAXly2dDLlYjY/wCfbp70 ifi4xrmC1FsoDDcvBzx8G8Q= =gWFA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Something is wrong with your setup. Hmm. Is there a diagnostician in the house? :-) The only thing non-standard that I know of in my system is that I have gdb held back, and I don't think that explains what I'm seeing. Specifically: 1. It looks like libqt3-mt_3.0.5-4 requires libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13), which my system doesn't have. Does Woody have such a version? (http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages.html shows libc6 2.2.5-6.) 2. It looks like libqt3-mt_3.0.5-4 replaces libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.5-3); is that ">=" really right? In addition to local mirrors, I have the following in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main deb-src http://debian.permabit.com/mirror/debian woody main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.permabit.com/mirror/non-us woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian woody main contrib non-free # KDE-3 stuff for woody deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody ./ Here's some data on what I'm seeing (formatted for readability): # apt-get -s upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back cvs doxygen doxygen-gui gdb libbsd-resource-perl xmix The following packages will be upgraded kernel-image-2.4.18 libopenafs-dev 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. Inst kernel-image-2.4.18 (permacore.1.4 intranet.permabit.com) Inst libopenafs-dev (1.2.3final2-6 Debian-Security:3.0/stable) Conf kernel-image-2.4.18 (permacore.1.4 intranet.permabit.com) Conf libopenafs-dev (1.2.3final2-6 Debian-Security:3.0/stable) # apt-cache show libc6 | grep -e Version Version: 2.3.1-5 Version: 2.2.5-12 Version: 2.2.5-11.2 Version: 2.2.5-6 # apt-cache show libqt3-mt | grep -e 'Version\|Depends\|Replaces\|^$' Version: 2:3.0.5-4 Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1), libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.5-3) Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.1-1), libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), nas-lib, xlibmesa3 | libgl1, xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) Version: 2:3.0.5-4 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.5-4), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibmesa3 | libgl1, xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Version: 2:3.0.4-2 Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.1-1), libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.4-1), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibmesa3 | libgl1, xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) Version: 2:3.0.3-20020329-1 Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libfreetype6, libgl1, libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.3-1), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 22. November 2002 22:26 schrieb Jeff Keller: > > 2. The link for latest has recently been updated to point to 3.0.5, > > but there is no Debian directory under 3.0.5. Wouldn't it make more > > sense to organize the directories as, e.g.: > > Debian/woody// > > rather than > > /Debian/woody/ > > to avoid this problem? > > Maybe he or someone else addressed the first problem with an update > and the second with a band-aid? Yes, looks like. > In any case, is a directory re-org of that sort feasible? No. download.kde.org is kde-version based. From the view of KDE, first there are the different versions then there are precompiled packages for different systems. The view might differ on a debian server but it is completely right for the project server. > On a more general note, I get the impression that the woody port of > KDE-3 is neither widely used nor thoroughly maintained, and I suspect > a chicken-and-egg problem. Can I induce a maintainer to try harder to > break that cycle? I'm happy to throw some money at the problem if it > will help. (I believe that having a reliable, easy-to-install, > current port of KDE for the stable version of Debian is valuable to > both projects.) Something is wrong with your setup. Just today, I upgraded KDE2.2.2->KDE3.0.4 by using the source above. The right libqt3(-mt) was installed and it ran just fine (even _without_ removing KDE2.2.2 first). And else it is a pure woody system... Hendrik - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93rK7zvr6q9zCwcERAqL8AJ9BsVv7zG4eH6RUN/HEOY5XRrjebgCgu9Bk Jk+eIO5UqAmDWYx7GqbdnE4= =m6br -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
Thomas Schoepf wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:50:02PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to the > > 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? > > It's a symlink to ../3.0.4/Debian. I wonder whether there will be 3.0.5 > debs some day. A few days ago, I sent the following to Ralf Nolden -- I probably should have sent it to the list, instead: > 1. In 3.0.4/Debian/woody/, it looks like the kde packages require > libqt3-mt-3.0.5, but the provided packages are libqt3-mt-3.0.5. [That last is a typo; I meant libqt3-mt-3.0.3.] > > 2. The link for latest has recently been updated to point to 3.0.5, > but there is no Debian directory under 3.0.5. Wouldn't it make more > sense to organize the directories as, e.g.: > Debian/woody// > rather than > /Debian/woody/ > to avoid this problem? Maybe he or someone else addressed the first problem with an update and the second with a band-aid? In any case, is a directory re-org of that sort feasible? On a more general note, I get the impression that the woody port of KDE-3 is neither widely used nor thoroughly maintained, and I suspect a chicken-and-egg problem. Can I induce a maintainer to try harder to break that cycle? I'm happy to throw some money at the problem if it will help. (I believe that having a reliable, easy-to-install, current port of KDE for the stable version of Debian is valuable to both projects.) --Jeff
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > > Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to > > > the 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? > > > > There are at least some 3.0.5 packages there... > > Yes, QT3.0.5 but not KDe3.0.5 :) IIRC, only kdelibs and maybe base were actually updated with 3.0.5, everything else is the same. So in effect, they *are* 3.0.4. Dunno if that's what's going on here, but maybe. - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93pZoEHLN/FXAbC0RAhiNAKDIvZBRP5M85DbQ74VathVVoc6aRACfTKdE /u58RaR0KKIvuT4CcBwVEEU= =QlKT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 22. November 2002 19:13 schrieb Jeff Keller: > Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Does apt-cache find it?: > > apt-cache show libtq3-mt > > Huh. You've got something there: > > peace-makes-plenty:/etc/apt# apt-cache show libqt3-mt | grep Version > Version: 2:3.0.5-4 > Version: 2:3.0.5-4 > Version: 2:3.0.4-2 > Version: 2:3.0.3-20020329-1 > > Does that mean that something else is requiring an older version? Dunno. But you can upgrade with apt-get -u dist-upgrade or simply and only install it with apt-get install libqt3-mt apt will then tell you about dependent packages... > > Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to the > > 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? > > There are at least some 3.0.5 packages there... Yes, QT3.0.5 but not KDe3.0.5 :) HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93oLuzvr6q9zCwcERAlOhAJ9zEfhkypgC+o8kycAiRehu6hzvhwCghIVi sKkzRHBNHk/7n10NC9/IMXs= =LcGj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:50:02PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to the > 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? It's a symlink to ../3.0.4/Debian. I wonder whether there will be 3.0.5 debs some day. Thomas --
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Freitag, 22. November 2002 18:39 schrieb Jeff Keller: > > but dpkg (despite 'dpkg --clear-avail' followed by dselect update) > > isn't finding it: > > Does apt-cache find it?: > apt-cache show libtq3-mt Huh. You've got something there: peace-makes-plenty:/etc/apt# apt-cache show libqt3-mt | grep Version Version: 2:3.0.5-4 Version: 2:3.0.5-4 Version: 2:3.0.4-2 Version: 2:3.0.3-20020329-1 Does that mean that something else is requiring an older version? > Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to the > 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? There are at least some 3.0.5 packages there... --Jeff
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 22. November 2002 18:39 schrieb Jeff Keller: > but dpkg (despite 'dpkg --clear-avail' followed by dselect update) > isn't finding it: Does apt-cache find it?: apt-cache show libtq3-mt Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to the 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93m5Ozvr6q9zCwcERAmG/AJ9sxDf1UpqbxawY0Wed6srreOchowCeOVpo Z0dLVOpFs4NS2ixtQqMrumk= =erT3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
I'm trying to install KDE-3 on a Debian Woody x86 system, and dpkg isn't finding the package versions that I expect. Anyone care to shed some light? My /etc/apt/sources.list includes: deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody ./ and that site has: http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/i386/qt3/libqt3-mt_3.0.5-4_i386.deb and http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/Packages.gz has: Package: libqt3-mt Version: 2:3.0.5-4 Priority: optional Section: libs Maintainer: Martin Loschwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.5-4), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibmesa3 | libgl1, xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) Suggests: libqt3-mt-psql, libqt3-mt-mysql, libqt3-mt-odbc Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Architecture: i386 Filename: ./i386/qt3/libqt3-mt_3.0.5-4_i386.deb Size: 2645534 MD5sum: f7e8c0684ac364938c12acabc0c61bcf Description: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version) This is the Trolltech Qt library, version 3. It's necessary for applications that link against the libqt, e.g. all KDE3 applications. . This package contains the threaded version of Qt3. source: qt-x11-free installed-size: 7634 but dpkg (despite 'dpkg --clear-avail' followed by dselect update) isn't finding it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apt# dpkg --print-avail libqt3-mt Package: libqt3-mt Priority: optional Section: libs Installed-Size: 8308 Maintainer: Ivan E. Moore II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: qt-copy Version: 2:3.0.3-20020329-1 Replaces: qt3-tools (<< 2:3.0.2-20020306-1) Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libfreetype6, libgl1, libjpeg62, libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpng3, libqt3 (>= 2:3.0.3-1), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) Suggests: libqt3-mt-psql, libqt3-mt-mysql, libqt3-mt-odbc Filename: pool/main/q/qt-copy/libqt3-mt_3.0.3-20020329-1_i386.deb Size: 2802542 MD5sum: e63b3c5e5728620fb63f19851f4acd5d Description: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version). This package contains the files necessary for running applications that use Qt. . This is the threaded version. My questions are: 1. Why isn't it finding the 3.0.5- version? 2. How can I tell where the 3.0.3- version is coming from? Stumbling blocks I've come across include: 1. The man page for sources.list doesn't describe the args portion of the entries, and I haven't found anything that does. 2. The various how-to's for installing KDE on debian never seem to talk about what packages to install. (I always assume that kdebase is the place to start, but that's only because looking through the list doesn't show a package called kde.) Any insight would be greatly appreciated! --Jeff
