Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 03 November 2001 11:27 am, Rachel Andrew wrote: snip Then where do I find the KDE2.2 binaries? In unstable? How do I just get those and not end up upgrading accidentally to the unstable version of Debian? (I'm still struggling a bit with apt-get so apologies if these are really silly questions). I have installed the following packages individually: apt-get install kdelibs3, kdebase, kdebase-crypto, konqueror, kmail, knode, konsole, kdm, kedit ... There is also a 'kde' package that pulls in 'lots' of stuff, koffice. - -- Greg Madden I have done a couple of installs of Debian testing (Woody) over the last few weeks. I was testing out the new boot-floppies to see how they were coming along. Anyway, I could get most of the basic KDE stuff by just doing an apt-get install kde after the initial install. This gets you a Minimal working KDE set, but you will be missing the crypto stuff, some games, some audio progs, and some networking progs. I don't recall if the KOffice stuff came in the basic set, but I believe it did. I would recommend for starters you apt-get the kde and the kdebase-crypto packages. This should be sufficient to get you going. BTW, these two also are all you need to get going with the new KDE 2.2.1 from unstable. You can add extra pacakges you might want later. Cheers, -Don Spoon-
trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
Hi I've just joined the list and now will appear as a hopeless newbie, but.. here goes... I had KDE2.1 running nicely on Debian (Potato) for about 4 months, I'm a web developer so I use Konqueror to test stuff and I also like KNode for news etc. I'm not a diehard Linux user but I know my way around. However, I decided to attempt to upgrade to KDE2.2 and tried to use apt-get to do an upgrade. This found some kde files, proceeded to download them but they seemed to be a . release of 2.1, at this point I was logged in as root, in a terminal window on my kde desktop. I decided to give up and logged out to log back in as my user and then found I could log back into kde at all. The X Server is still running and if i select 'failsafe' at login I get bits of KDE such as the terminal. I also have the KDE2.21 files on a cd-rom, but after extracting the kdebase or kdelibs and trying to do a ./configure it fails on checking for libz... configure: error: not found. Check your installation and look into config.log config.log confirms that it can't find zlib.h Sooo... perhaps the problem could be solved if I could find a server with the correct files on and I could upgrade, or manage to install from this CD. It has been suggested that i upgrade from potato to Woody, is this a good idea? How would I go about it? I probably sound like a rank idiot by now but I am capable of following instructions if I could find some helpful information, I've been searching all afternoon for something that might set me in the right direction but to no avail. If anyone could either explain what I can do to at least get back to what I had/to upgrade KDE or point me to some information elsewhere I'd be very grateful. Thankyou =) Rachel
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 03 November 2001 18:00, Rachel Andrew wrote: Hi XAIPE! snip I had KDE2.1 running nicely on Debian (Potato) for about 4 months, I'm a web developer so I use Konqueror to test stuff and I also like KNode for news etc. I'm not a diehard Linux user but I know my way around. The point is that there are no KDE 2.2-debs for Potato! There are some for sid (unstable) which can be used with woody (testing) with a little trick, but I don't know if that works with Potato as well, you need a late version of apt-get, but I think that the base-libs of potato are not able to cope with these KDE-binaries that are compiled for newer versions. If your box is NOT a server, needing 99% uptime and the latest security-patches available cause of a high possibility to be attacked, you can upgrade your whole system to woody and then get the KDE 2.2-bins from sid. It works fine for me and for a lot of other people in this list as well! Search this list for further details (or ask me again and i'll repost the proper inforamtion). snip I also have the KDE2.21 files on a cd-rom, but after extracting the kdebase or kdelibs and trying to do a ./configure it fails on checking for libz... configure: error: not found. Check your installation and look into config.log config.log confirms that it can't find zlib.h I haven't seen it, but configure often tries to find out about a library by compiling a little dummy-app that makes use of it and then looks if the App works or not! Btw: compiling KDE from scratch is a _really_ hard task, but on the other hand you see what Ivan's doin' for all of us... Sooo... perhaps the problem could be solved if I could find a server with the correct files on and I could upgrade, or manage to install from this CD. It has been suggested that i upgrade from potato to Woody, is this a good idea? How would I go about it? As I already said, that depends on how you use your box! I do not have any problems with woody at all, it works really fine! Then you just have to get the KDE-debs from sid, but believe me, that's not hard at all!!! snip Thankyou =) Rachel Franz - -- Wenn auch die Sicherheit vor den Menschen bis zu einem gewissen Grade eintritt durch eine bestimmte Macht, Störungen zu beseitigen, und durch Reichtum, so entspringt doch die reinste Sicherheit aus der Ruhe und dem Rückzug aus der Masse. (Epikur) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE75CLYeSeJPuOA2l4RAl2kAJwLXV/cN5kCvz1ONBK6fV/yTd/OfQCfeLCL mlkTZrjkHmF3HV7lz3jvCxk= =CIh5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
The point is that there are no KDE 2.2-debs for Potato! ahhh.. ok =) If your box is NOT a server, needing 99% uptime and the latest security-patches available cause of a high possibility to be attacked, you can upgrade your whole system to woody and then get the KDE 2.2-bins from sid. yep that would work. I was wary of using Woody because I'm still very much new to Debian (I had used RedHat before but it was a lot easier to install). The box is behind a firewall and is just for testing stuff really so upgrading would be an option. If you could explain how I go about this I'd be grateful. Can I upgrade via apt-get ? Rachel
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 17:40, Rachel Andrew wrote: The point is that there are no KDE 2.2-debs for Potato! ahhh.. ok =) If your box is NOT a server, needing 99% uptime and the latest security-patches available cause of a high possibility to be attacked, you can upgrade your whole system to woody and then get the KDE 2.2-bins from sid. yep that would work. I was wary of using Woody because I'm still very much new to Debian (I had used RedHat before but it was a lot easier to install). The box is behind a firewall and is just for testing stuff really so upgrading would be an option. If you could explain how I go about this I'd be grateful. Can I upgrade via apt-get ? What I do is simply replacing 'stable' by 'testing' in your apt source list update your available package list and start install. In most cases everything works fine. Anyway, I always backup my entire system before upgrading ... just in case. Woody works well. By the way, when I upgraded a system from woody to sid my KDE packages could not be automatically installed. I had first to unistall all KDE packages and install the new ones after and than it worked. Bye, Steffen
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 3. November 2001 19:03 schrieb Steffen Evers: What I do is simply replacing 'stable' by 'testing' in your apt source list update your available package list and start install. In most cases everything works fine. Anyway, I always backup my entire system before upgrading ... just in case. Are those funky problems on upgrading really out of the way? I mean the Perl5.6/DebConf/apt-get problem... I do not remember the suggested clean way to ugrade but someone who does should tell him before he tries. HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE75DX4zvr6q9zCwcERArMQAJ0Ym7Agqn82Dc0mb95N5eB7Ex8tOgCgubdV GMkHuYQ1xCDRqUKcKwOBsWs= =esNu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 snip If you could explain how I go about this I'd be grateful. Can I upgrade via apt-get ? What I do is simply replacing 'stable' by 'testing' in your apt source list update your available package list and start install. In most cases everything works fine. Anyway, I always backup my entire system before upgrading ... just in case. I did that once and it worked well, but just in case: run apt-get -f install several times, and make use of apt-get dist-upgrade!!! Woody works well. That's my opinion as well... By the way, when I upgraded a system from woody to sid my KDE packages could not be automatically installed. I had first to unistall all KDE packages and install the new ones after and than it worked. It works if you don't, but the system is cleaner if you do so. Make sure to install ALL KDE2.2 related apps from unstable!!! (especially the libs and doc-debs!!!) But all in all it works really fine, I'm just writing from a woody-box with sid's KDE-packages... and my KDE-session is running several days now... Bye, Steffen Franz - -- Wenn auch die Sicherheit vor den Menschen bis zu einem gewissen Grade eintritt durch eine bestimmte Macht, Störungen zu beseitigen, und durch Reichtum, so entspringt doch die reinste Sicherheit aus der Ruhe und dem Rückzug aus der Masse. (Epikur) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE75EM+eSeJPuOA2l4RAiacAKCtKs2lutklTK6KO8GqTpxkDRtBSQCgz0/i glD0JNf9+0BkFRqG4BR7L5I= =4lOA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
I had first to unistall all KDE packages and install the new ones after and than it worked. It works if you don't, but the system is cleaner if you do so. Make sure to install ALL KDE2.2 related apps from unstable!!! (especially the libs and doc-debs!!!) But all in all it works really fine, I'm just writing from a woody-box with sid's KDE-packages... and my KDE-session is running several days now... ok.. so I have got it downloading Woody from testing. Once I have that installed should I then uninstall any KDE related stuff? Then where do I find the KDE2.2 binaries? In unstable? How do I just get those and not end up upgrading accidentally to the unstable version of Debian? (I'm still struggling a bit with apt-get so apologies if these are really silly questions). Rachel
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
On Saturday 03 November 2001 12:27, Rachel Andrew wrote: I had first to unistall all KDE packages and install the new ones after and than it worked. It works if you don't, but the system is cleaner if you do so. Make sure to install ALL KDE2.2 related apps from unstable!!! (especially the libs and doc-debs!!!) But all in all it works really fine, I'm just writing from a woody-box with sid's KDE-packages... and my KDE-session is running several days now... ok.. so I have got it downloading Woody from testing. Once I have that installed should I then uninstall any KDE related stuff? Then where do I find the KDE2.2 binaries? In unstable? How do I just get those and not end up upgrading accidentally to the unstable version of Debian? (I'm still struggling a bit with apt-get so apologies if these are really silly questions). Rachel Greetings Rachel, I understand your fear! KDE is included with your new sources list. You will no longer need to specify a seperate entry just for KDE since the qt library issue was resolved. Here is cp of my active source list from /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free If you have broadband, this won't be much of an issue. Took less then 10 minutes for me to upgrade from potato to woody with cable modem. It however took a little longer to set up the new applications like 'x' and several others. I wouldn't pull your kde out just yet. Do the upgrade and see how well apt handles what you already had installed. If it becomes an issue, then pull them (apt-get remove pacagewhatever --purge). Another way is dselect; when you mark a package for removal, a dependency page will come up, where it will tell you all the other things it recommends removing. dselect however, is still a pain when you are still learning the ropes. The new look and feel of woody is very nice though. hth. tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 03 November 2001 11:27 am, Rachel Andrew wrote: snip Then where do I find the KDE2.2 binaries? In unstable? How do I just get those and not end up upgrading accidentally to the unstable version of Debian? (I'm still struggling a bit with apt-get so apologies if these are really silly questions). I have installed the following packages individually: apt-get install kdelibs3, kdebase, kdebase-crypto, konqueror, kmail, knode, konsole, kdm, kedit ... There is also a 'kde' package that pulls in 'lots' of stuff, koffice. - -- Greg Madden -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE75FlegFopErbyUAoRAn3sAJoDoz0VWjpvXg0lX/tfnhG9epQKkQCdGrnt ybMEPt5wRcYYP8nVyMYKF/U= =0Kxs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
