Re: vote

2000-12-16 Thread Mircea Luca
Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 
 ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give you) :)
 
option 1:  upgrade potato .deb's to 2.1-beta1+ (ie..move from stable to
   cvs snapshots as I am doing with woody)
 
option 2:  create a seperate repository on kde.tdyc.com for kde 2.1 potato
   .deb's.
 
option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs
 
 (note...when I start making 2.1 debs for potato I will no longer be able
 to make 2.0.1 debs)
 
Due to my network snafu I ended up being a day behind in uploads for 
 woody..
 which actually ends up being a good thing. :)  (at least IMO)...in the 24hrs
 to follow beta1 a bunch of bug fixes have been made including one very 
 annoying
 one with email configuration. (plus 24hrs more of me cleaning things up)
 
 so..your choice.
 
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2000-12-15 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give you) :)

   option 1:  upgrade potato .deb's to 2.1-beta1+ (ie..move from stable to
  cvs snapshots as I am doing with woody)

   option 2:  create a seperate repository on kde.tdyc.com for kde 2.1 potato
  .deb's.

   option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

(note...when I start making 2.1 debs for potato I will no longer be able
to make 2.0.1 debs)

   Due to my network snafu I ended up being a day behind in uploads for woody..
which actually ends up being a good thing. :)  (at least IMO)...in the 24hrs
to follow beta1 a bunch of bug fixes have been made including one very annoying
one with email configuration. (plus 24hrs more of me cleaning things up)

so..your choice.  

Ivan

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Myles Green
On Thursday 14 December 2000 23:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give
 you) :)
snip
 so..your choice.

I would prefer option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs, but 
would settle for otion 2.

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Daniel de los Reyes
On Vie 15 Dic 2000 07:39, Myles Green wrote:
 On Thursday 14 December 2000 23:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
  ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give
  you) :)

 snip

  so..your choice.

 I would prefer option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs, but
 would settle for otion 2.

I vote for this too.

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Daniel de los Reyes
On Vie 15 Dic 2000 08:04, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:
 On Vie 15 Dic 2000 07:39, Myles Green wrote:
  On Thursday 14 December 2000 23:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
   ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give
   you) :)
 
  snip
 
   so..your choice.
 
  I would prefer option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs, but
  would settle for otion 2.

 I vote for this too.
Anyway I think 2.1 is not going to include things 2.0.1 (like kde pim for 
example) so I think it would be a good thing, in any case to not blow away 
2.0.1 debs.
So my vote really is to wait for 2.1 release and once it's out make a 
separate repository for it, stop building 2.0.1 packages but keep the last 
built avaliable.
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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
   I would prefer option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs, but
   would settle for otion 2.
 
  I vote for this too.
 Anyway I think 2.1 is not going to include things 2.0.1 (like kde pim for 
 example) so I think it would be a good thing, in any case to not blow away 
 2.0.1 debs.
 So my vote really is to wait for 2.1 release and once it's out make a 
 separate repository for it, stop building 2.0.1 packages but keep the last 
 built avaliable.

2 things about this...

2.1 will have kdepim... 2.1-beta1 does not...

I have no plans on removing anything that does not have a replacement...

for example...korganizer is not ready (and doesn't build out of the box) so
the deb is not going anywhere.  2.0.1 packages can run on a 2.1 system.

(I'm still using 2.0.1 korg on my 2.1 system with no problems (other than the
probs it has)

Ivan


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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Jan Warnking

option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

If I have a coice, I prefer stable packages over new features (within
reasonable limits - I guess you could argue that I really should be
running KDE1 then...). After all, that's why I'm running Potato, not
Woody.
I'd vote for option 2, if (or once) Ivan got the impression that the 2.0.x
packages have settled down completely, and there is nothing more to fix
there from a packaging point of view. Is upstream work still continuing on
the bugfix branch (towards a 2.0.2) ?

Cheers, Jan




Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
 option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

I'm actually going to go with Option 2...2 archives (both 2.0.1 and 2.1)

 If I have a coice, I prefer stable packages over new features (within
 reasonable limits - I guess you could argue that I really should be
 running KDE1 then...). After all, that's why I'm running Potato, not
 Woody.
 I'd vote for option 2, if (or once) Ivan got the impression that the 2.0.x
 packages have settled down completely, and there is nothing more to fix
 there from a packaging point of view. Is upstream work still continuing on
 the bugfix branch (towards a 2.0.2) ?

there is no 2.0.2...2.0.2.  

In fact, one of the main reasons 2.0.1 isn't as stable as it could be for
potato is that I'm mixing 2.1 with 2.0.1...

for example...the kdm that comes with 2.0.1 has issues...so to fix those issues
I'm have been backporting the 2.1 version which is far more complete and 
is much much better. But, it's a new port so it has bugs (which are getting
worked out extremly fast).

Same thing with a few other packages (knode, kpackage, kmail)

I've been very selective in this...but it still leads to some uncertainty...
Plus it doesn't help that we have been lab mice for i18n patches to QT and KDE.

IMO very few bug fixes with into 2.0.1 after 2.1 kicked off...there were some
major fixes and some security fixes but it was mostly for i18n work.  2.0.1
is not something that Debian would call stable...it has too many major bugs...
If Debian were to freeze woody right now I would be quickly uploading 2.1-beta1

:)

Now...what I plan on doing is to do 1 more round of 2.0.1 packages.  These will
be built on top of QT 2.2.3 and will have more fixes to the stuff I've back
ported plus some other things I've been fixing.

Once I get these packages done I'll be immediatly moving on to 2.1-beta1 
packages.  

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Hanno Mueller
My choice:

 option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

Thanks  greetings,

Hanno





Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread James D. Freels

I vote for option 3 because the other two would not be stable.  Potato
implies stable (I think *is* very stable).  Would be have 2.0.1
maintainence?


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ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give you) :)

   option 1:  upgrade potato .deb's to 2.1-beta1+ (ie..move from stable to
  cvs snapshots as I am doing with woody)

   option 2:  create a seperate repository on kde.tdyc.com for kde 2.1 potato
  .deb's.

   option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

(note...when I start making 2.1 debs for potato I will no longer be able
to make 2.0.1 debs)

   Due to my network snafu I ended up being a day behind in uploads for woody..
which actually ends up being a good thing. :)  (at least IMO)...in the 24hrs
to follow beta1 a bunch of bug fixes have been made including one very annoying
one with email configuration. (plus 24hrs more of me cleaning things up)

so..your choice.  

Ivan

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Soenke von Stamm
Oops! I sent this to Pablo, sorry!
Pablo de Vicente wrote:
 El Vie 15 Dic 2000 07:39, Myles Green escribi:

 On Thursday 14 December 2000 23:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:

 ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give
 you) :)

 snip

 so..your choice.

 I would prefer option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs, but
 would settle for otion 2.


  I like this proposal. I vote for it.

 Pablo
Agree.
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Fwd: Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Myles Green


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Subject: Re: vote
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:05:52 +0100
From: Pablo de Vicente [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]


El Vie 15 Dic 2000 07:39, Myles Green escribió:
On Thursday 14 December 2000 23:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give
 you) :)

snip

 so..your choice.

I would prefer option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs,
 but would settle for otion 2.

 I like this proposal. I vote for it.

Pablo.
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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Ivan,

I think we have been test dummies for kde as it is now - so I guess I would
vote for option 1 as long as it doesn't complete wipe out kmail - :)

Thank you

On Thursday 14 December 2000 22:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give you) :)

option 1:  upgrade potato .deb's to 2.1-beta1+ (ie..move from stable to
   cvs snapshots as I am doing with woody)

option 2:  create a seperate repository on kde.tdyc.com for kde 2.1
 potato .deb's.

option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

 (note...when I start making 2.1 debs for potato I will no longer be able
 to make 2.0.1 debs)

Due to my network snafu I ended up being a day behind in uploads for
 woody.. which actually ends up being a good thing. :)  (at least IMO)...in
 the 24hrs to follow beta1 a bunch of bug fixes have been made including one
 very annoying one with email configuration. (plus 24hrs more of me cleaning
 things up)

 so..your choice.

 Ivan

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Jesse Goerz
option 1:  upgrade potato .deb's to 2.1-beta1+ (ie..move from stable
to cvs snapshots as I am doing with woody)






Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Robert Guthrie
In case the polls are still open

I vote for 2.  

KDE is the best work environment I can have.  I feel that option 2 will leave 
me with a working system more likely than 3.

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Re: vote

2000-12-15 Thread Marcin Landowski
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:03:11PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
option 3:  wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs

this option! 
:-)

best regards


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