Re: xorg not installing - Fixed!

2006-11-12 Thread Larry Garfield
On Sunday 12 November 2006 06:55, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > What exactly is the difference between discover and discover1?  I'm
> > curious why one would die and the other not.
>
> For some time I thought that discover1 was optimized for 2.6 kernels.
> That is not true, however:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/06/msg02440.html
>
> Now I have simply filed the discover/discover1 business under "If one
> does not work try the other; if both do not work remove them."

Huh.  That's the problem with evolutionary systems this large.  Cruft like 
that stays around and never quite goes away.  Ah well.  One of these days 
I'll probably remove them both.

Thanks again.

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Re: xorg not installing - Fixed!

2006-11-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 02:43:04 -0600, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On Sunday 12 November 2006 01:06, Larry Garfield wrote:
> 
> > >Another thing to try is if "discover1" works better than "discover":
> > >
> > >http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/d/discover1/
> >
> > Now this is fascinating.  If I just switch directly to discover1:
> >
> > aptitude install discover1
> >
> > Then it removes discover, installs discover1, sees that xserver-xorg is not
> > fully installed and successfully installs it!  Whatever the difference is
> > between discover and discover1, it looks like discover is broken on my
> > system but discover1 isn't.  Very weird.
> >
> > I'm going to try restarting X and see if it survives.  If you don't hear
> > from me, it means my system is dead. ;-)  Thanks.
> 
> That seems to have done it.  Thanks!  
> 
> What exactly is the difference between discover and discover1?  I'm curious 
> why one would die and the other not.

For some time I thought that discover1 was optimized for 2.6 kernels.
That is not true, however:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/06/msg02440.html

Now I have simply filed the discover/discover1 business under "If one
does not work try the other; if both do not work remove them."

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Re: xorg not installing - Fixed!

2006-11-12 Thread Larry Garfield
On Sunday 12 November 2006 01:06, Larry Garfield wrote:

> >Another thing to try is if "discover1" works better than "discover":
> >
> >http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/d/discover1/
>
> Now this is fascinating.  If I just switch directly to discover1:
>
> aptitude install discover1
>
> Then it removes discover, installs discover1, sees that xserver-xorg is not
> fully installed and successfully installs it!  Whatever the difference is
> between discover and discover1, it looks like discover is broken on my
> system but discover1 isn't.  Very weird.
>
> I'm going to try restarting X and see if it survives.  If you don't hear
> from me, it means my system is dead. ;-)  Thanks.

That seems to have done it.  Thanks!  

What exactly is the difference between discover and discover1?  I'm curious 
why one would die and the other not.

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which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to 
himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession 
of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it."  -- Thomas 
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Re: xorg not installing - Fixed?

2006-11-11 Thread Larry Garfield
On Friday 03 November 2006 12:44, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> > That's the last line of output.  If I try to reinstall discover, however,
> > aptitude simply tries to install xorg again and it freezes again. 
> > apt-get does the same.  There's also no change if I do an aptitude clean
> > and then try to download the package again.
>
> I think there are two possible approaches:
>
> 1) Find out why discover fails. You can run it yourself as root with the
>"-d" option. Maybe you will get some error messages that explain the
>behavior of the postinst script.

"discover" on its own reports each piece of hardware multiple times in a row, 
then seems to freeze after reporting my video card three times:

nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]

The card was installed a few months ago, and I know things have been upgraded 
since then.  If I run discover -v (verbose), then it doesn't get very far at 
all:

rigel:~# discover -v
 Loading XML data... ata pci pcmcia scsi usb Done
Scanning buses... ata pci pcmcia scsi usb 
 
Then it freezes.  Ctrl+C doesn't even work.

> 2) You decide that you do not care about 1) and just get rid of
>discover:

>Another thing to try is if "discover1" works better than "discover":
>
>http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/d/discover1/

Now this is fascinating.  If I just switch directly to discover1:

aptitude install discover1

Then it removes discover, installs discover1, sees that xserver-xorg is not 
fully installed and successfully installs it!  Whatever the difference is 
between discover and discover1, it looks like discover is broken on my system 
but discover1 isn't.  Very weird.

I'm going to try restarting X and see if it survives.  If you don't hear from 
me, it means my system is dead. ;-)  Thanks.

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exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, 
which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to 
himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession 
of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it."  -- Thomas 
Jefferson


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