Bug#284961: kernel-image-2.4.27-1-smp: kernel-image-2.4.27-1-* does not detect proper SCSI Controller.

2005-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Greg,

On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:17:49PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
 I can arrange an account with sudo access.

 As long as we do the account info off-bug.

 On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 18:06 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
  Hi Greg,
  
  Apologies for the dormancy on this bug; yours is one of several RC bugs on
  initrd-tools that have been long in the resolving, so it's not just you...
  FWIW. :)
  
  You mentioned being able to get access to this machine for debugging.  Is
  that still a possibility?
  
  Thanks,

Bad news... I can't reproduce this problem, even on your machine. :)  Can
you tell me what kernel you were running at the time you saw the problem?
Your initial report was from a machine that was running 2.4.27-1-smp, so I
assume you got this kernel working using MODULES=most in mkinitrd.conf and
then reported the bug; does that agree with what you recall of the
situation?

I suspect this problem was caused by a module name change in the kernel,
where earlier you might have been using sym53c8xx instead of sym53c8xx_2, so
the wrong driver name was detected based on which module was currently
running.  Fixing this in initrd-tools therefore probably means introducing
some special-casing to mangle this module name according to the selected
kernel version.

If you are still able to reproduce this bug on your system, please let me
know how it's manifesting, in case I'm overlooking something.

Thanks,
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Bug#284961: kernel-image-2.4.27-1-smp: kernel-image-2.4.27-1-* does not detect proper SCSI Controller.

2005-04-09 Thread Greg Folkert
Resend Sorry. Forgot the bug.
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 23:16 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 Hi Greg,
 
 On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:17:49PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
  I can arrange an account with sudo access.
 
  As long as we do the account info off-bug.
 
  On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 18:06 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
   Hi Greg,
   
   Apologies for the dormancy on this bug; yours is one of several RC bugs on
   initrd-tools that have been long in the resolving, so it's not just you...
   FWIW. :)
   
   You mentioned being able to get access to this machine for debugging.  Is
   that still a possibility?
   
   Thanks,
 
 Bad news... I can't reproduce this problem, even on your machine. :)  Can
 you tell me what kernel you were running at the time you saw the problem?
 Your initial report was from a machine that was running 2.4.27-1-smp, so I
 assume you got this kernel working using MODULES=most in mkinitrd.conf and
 then reported the bug; does that agree with what you recall of the
 situation?

Well, that kernel that is currently running also has this problem.

You need to compare the modules sym53c8xx and sym53c8xx_2, you will see
they are the same module, different location.

 I suspect this problem was caused by a module name change in the kernel,
 where earlier you might have been using sym53c8xx instead of sym53c8xx_2, so
 the wrong driver name was detected based on which module was currently
 running.  Fixing this in initrd-tools therefore probably means introducing
 some special-casing to mangle this module name according to the selected
 kernel version.

This is probably what the problem is. But, I still have noticed, that
installing any kernel still gets this error. You can go ahead and remove
and re-install any kernel you want. If you do this, I am sure you should
be able to discover it. I can recover with tftp booting, so it shouldn;t
be to bad.

 If you are still able to reproduce this bug on your system, please let me
 know how it's manifesting, in case I'm overlooking something.

I am sure, that (re)installing any kernel will give you the problem.

I have given you sudo access and in the sudo group.

I only ask that you don't screw up /home if you need to I can re-back it
up. Pretty much the whole reason I couldn't let you in, was the firewall
changes would have made a service interruption for us. I had to open
undead up to more than one external host for ssh.

You realize, the reason it is called undead, the machine was built on
July 10, 1994 shipped to the company I worked at. I have been the admin
for that machine since then. They took it out of commission and gave it
to me.

If you still cannot reproduce it, lemme know, I should be able to.
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Re: Re: Bug#301701: kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7: System catatonic when tryingtowrite DVD or CD as user

2005-04-09 Thread Nick Hill
I have demonstrated this bug with a vanilla kernel.org kernel. I have 
found a similar blocking bug submitted on 20th February and appended a 
copy of the Debian bug.

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4234
Given the severity of the bug, I am surprised it has survived two kernel 
versions. For me, 2,6.10 and 2.6.11 have incrementally added three 
serious/ critical bugs, and only solved an ISO9660 file system issue 
(where files 2Gb would confuse the driver). The field is open for 
better systems of kernel development management than what we are seeing 
with the official kernel.

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Processed: Re: Bug#303844: resolve device xxx is grabbed by another driver

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 reassign 303844 kernel-source-2.6.11
Bug#303844: resolve device xxx is grabbed by another driver
Bug reassigned from package `sl-modem-source' to `kernel-source-2.6.11'.

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Processing of kernel-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-3_powerpc.changes

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  kernel-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-3_all.deb
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Bug#270376: PCMCIA Nic stops working after upgrading to 2.6.6/7/8

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005, Jefferson Cowart wrote:

 Looks like I may have spoken a bit too soon. The problem is partially fixed,
 but I'm still having a few problems. After the system was up I ran cardctl
 eject 0 to stop and let me remove my Ethernet card and I got the follow
 error:
 
 eth0: no IPv6 routers present
 irq 10: nobody cared!
  [c01297b5] __report_bad_irq+0x31/0x77

can you send the hexdump of the cardbus controller
before and after the cardctl command on this patched 2.6.11 kernel:
/proc/bus/pci/00/07.0 and /proc/bus/pci/00/07.1

thanks for your feedback.
maks



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Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:31:22PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 07:34:00PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  If Debian was at least consistent.
  
  Why has Debian a much more liberal interpretation of MP3 patent issues 
  than RedHat?
 
 It's impossible to treat patents consistently.
 
 The U.S. patent office, at least, has granted patents on natural laws,
 on stuff that's already patented, on stuff with clear prior art, on
 trivial math operations and so on.  Patents are being granted so quickly
 there's no way of even knowing what's patented.
 
 Or were you hoping that Debian would follow Red Hat's lead?


Even RedHat with a stronger financial background than Debian considered 
the MP3 patents being serious enough to remove MP3 support.

Yes, Debian can choose to put a higher risk on their distributors and 
mirrors - there's nothing wrong with this.


Note that this is a respose to Josselin's statement:

--  snip  --

When there are several possible interpretations, you have to pick up the
more conservative one, as it's not up to us to make the interpretation,
but to a court.

--  snip  --


It's simply silly to be extremely picky on copyright issues while being 
extremely liberal on patent issues - the risk of a Debian distributor 
being sued for patent violations (no matter how the lawsuit might end) 
is definitely present.


 As for this particular patent, I'm not really sure what's being patented.
...


Which one of the 23 patents they list do you call this particular 
patent?


 Raul


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Adrian

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Bug#270898: initrd-tools: it's an old kernel bug

2005-04-09 Thread Ottavio Campana
Package: initrd-tools
Version: 0.1.77
Followup-For: Bug #270898

Today I experienced the same bug.

I installed 3 years ago a woody server with the same cd with xfs support.

It seems to be a kernel bug, because after downloading a new 2.4.30
kernel, compiling it and booting I've been able to install the package
kernel-image-2.6-686 .

I don't know exactly the bug, but the -a flag of the command cp called
inside mkinitrd doesn't seems to work with old kernel with the xfs 
patch. You can try it copying something with the -a flag and the old 
kernel won't let you do it. With a newer one you'll be able.

So, I think you can close the bug. :-)

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Versions of packages initrd-tools depends on:
ii  coreutils [fileutils] 5.2.1-2The GNU core utilities
ii  cpio  2.5-1.2GNU cpio -- a program to manage ar
ii  cramfsprogs   1.1-6  Tools for CramFs (Compressed ROM F
ii  dash  0.5.2-2The Debian Almquist Shell
ii  util-linux2.12-10Miscellaneous system utilities

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Bug#303918: Patch to support IT8212 on-board RAID controller

2005-04-09 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Package: kernel-image-2.6.10-i386
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch

Dear Debian Kernel Maintainers,

Alan Cox has a patch against 2.6.10 that supports the IT 8212 RAID
Controller, which is found on some motherboards.

This patch (http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/12/28/79) applied with no
problem against the Debian kernel sources.  It just adds one extra
source file that builds one extra module so there is no concern about
code destabilization.  I'm using this module on my system now.


If you could include this in the debian sources and enable the module,
I'd be very much in your debt.  Thanks.


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Bug#303926: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: Loads IDE Modules permanently

2005-04-09 Thread Stuart Sheldon
Package: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686
Version: 2.6.11-2
Severity: normal


Not sure if this is a kernel bug or not... Would like to remove unused modules
if possable


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Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.11-1-686
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 depends on:
ii  coreutils [fileutils] 5.2.1-2The GNU core utilities
ii  initrd-tools  0.1.77 tools to create initrd image for p
ii  module-init-tools 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel mo

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Re: Re: Bug#301701: kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7: System catatonic when tryingtowrite DVD or CD as user

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
please don't forget to cc your bug reports!

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005, Nick Hill wrote:

 I have demonstrated this bug with a vanilla kernel.org kernel. I have 
 found a similar blocking bug submitted on 20th February and appended a 
 copy of the Debian bug.
 
 http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4234

which version of cdrecord or growisofs package are you using?
cant duplicate your problem with 2.6.11 and newer kernels.
 
 Given the severity of the bug, I am surprised it has survived two kernel 
 versions. For me, 2,6.10 and 2.6.11 have incrementally added three 
 serious/ critical bugs, and only solved an ISO9660 file system issue 
 (where files 2Gb would confuse the driver). The field is open for 
 better systems of kernel development management than what we are seeing 
 with the official kernel.

who are you to come up which such bad attitudes
and to think you gonna go anywhere?

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Processed: Re: Bug#303926: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: Loads IDE Modules permanently

2005-04-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 reassign 303926 initrd-tools
Bug#303926: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: Loads IDE Modules permanently
Bug reassigned from package `kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686' to `initrd-tools'.

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Bug#303926: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: Loads IDE Modules permanently

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
reassign 303926 initrd-tools
thanks

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005, Stuart Sheldon wrote:

 
 Not sure if this is a kernel bug or not... Would like to remove unused modules
 if possable

it has to do with the reorganisation of the semi-broken modular ide patch,
that debian carried around. upstream ide-dev looks like heading in a saner
direction, but that's definetely a post linux-2.6.12 item.

anyway initrd shouldn't load all ide drivers first.
so reassigned, don't expect a too quick fix for that.

regards maks


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Bug#303777: kernel-image: Bind9 from woody fails to start; capset failed: Operation not permitted

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Package: kernel-image
 Version: 2.6.11-3
 Severity: important
 
 Bind9 from Debian woody will not start when run with this kernel. It does 
 work 
 with kernel 2.6.10 and previous.

as debian sarge will release with 2.6.8,
it's not so much of a trouble it may be the selinux stuff,
dont know that cpset module?
 
 #/etc/iniit.d/bind9 start
 Starting domain name service: namednamed: capset failed: Operation not 
 permitted
 
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Bug#303550: (fwd) Re: Bug#303550: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: irq11 makes eth0 problems

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
- Forwarded message from Philippe Bourcier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:51:37 +0200
From: Philippe Bourcier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bug#303550: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: irq11 makes eth0 problems

hi Maximilian,

  first, thanks a lot for looking to this problem

On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 06:34:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 tags 303550 moreinfo

 On Thu, 07 Apr 2005, Philippe BOURCIER wrote:
 
  Apr  6 19:54:47 ile kernel: Linux version 2.6.11-1-686 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)) #1 Sun Apr 3 06:20:48 EDT 2005
  Apr  6 19:55:15 ile kernel: eth0: flipped to 10baseT
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: irq 11: nobody cared!
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c013242a] __report_bad_irq+0x2a/0xa0
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c0131ed0] handle_IRQ_event+0x30/0x70
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c0132530] note_interrupt+0x70/0xb0
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c0131ff0] __do_IRQ+0xe0/0xf0
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c0105279] do_IRQ+0x19/0x30
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c010391a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c011cb6e] __do_softirq+0x2e/0x90
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c011cbf6] do_softirq+0x26/0x30
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c010527e] do_IRQ+0x1e/0x30
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c010391a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: handlers:
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c8cd1980] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x70 [usbcore])
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c8cc48a0] (yenta_interrupt+0x0/0x40 
  [yenta_socket])
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: [c8cc48a0] (yenta_interrupt+0x0/0x40 
  [yenta_socket])
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: Disabling IRQ #11
  Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: eth0: interrupt(s) dropped!
  Apr  6 19:55:24 ile kernel: eth0: no IPv6 routers present

sometimes, i got that one :

Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Linux Kernel Card Services
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:03.0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:03.0 
[:]  
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta TI: socket :00:03.0, mfunc 0xcba97543, 
devctl 0x62
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: irq 11: nobody cared!
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c013242a] __report_bad_irq+0x2a/0xa0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0131ed0] handle_IRQ_event+0x30/0x70
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0132530] note_interrupt+0x70/0xb0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0131ff0] __do_IRQ+0xe0/0xf0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0105279] do_IRQ+0x19/0x30
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c010391a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c011cb6e] __do_softirq+0x2e/0x90
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c011cbf6] do_softirq+0x26/0x30
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c010527e] do_IRQ+0x1e/0x30
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c010391a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c01bb294] pci_bus_write_config_word+0x54/0x60
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8cc64db] yenta_probe_cb_irq+0x6b/0x130 
[yenta_socket]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0118507] printk+0x17/0x20
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8cc5461] ti12xx_irqroute_func0+0x91/0x390 
[yenta_socket]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8cc5c3f] ti12xx_override+0xff/0x1b0 
[yenta_socket]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8cc5d7f] ti1250_override+0x8f/0xa0 
[yenta_socket]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8cc69a0] yenta_probe+0x220/0x250 [yenta_socket]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c01bf402] pci_device_probe_static+0x52/0x70
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c01bf45c] __pci_device_probe+0x3c/0x50
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c01bf49c] pci_device_probe+0x2c/0x50
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0211a4f] driver_probe_device+0x2f/0x80
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0211b9c] driver_attach+0x5c/0xa0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c02120ed] bus_add_driver+0x9d/0xd0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c021270f] driver_register+0x2f/0x40
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c01bf714] pci_register_driver+0x64/0x90
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8c8300f] yenta_socket_init+0xf/0x11 
[yenta_socket]
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c012f6b2] sys_init_module+0x122/0x1b0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c0102f33] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: handlers:
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: [c8cd1980] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x70 [usbcore])
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Disabling IRQ #11
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta TI: socket :00:03.0 probing PCI interrupt 
failed, trying to fix
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta TI: socket :00:03.0 no PCI interrupts. 
Fish. Please report.
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0690, PCI irq 0
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Socket status: 3019
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:03.1
Apr  9 19:45:29 ile kernel: Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:03.1 
[:]  
Apr 

Re: Bug#297673: sis900: Unknown symbol crc32_le

2005-04-09 Thread james
Hi,
make sure you havce the crc32 module compiled and then:
$modprobe crc32
-James
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Bug#303550: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: irq11 makes eth0 problems

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
please don't drop from cc the bug report. :)

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005, Philippe Bourcier wrote:

   first, thanks a lot for looking to this problem

ok, let's look if he can get nail that down.
 
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 06:34:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
   Apr  6 19:54:47 ile kernel: Linux version 2.6.11-1-686 ([EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)) #1 Sun Apr 3 06:20:48 
   EDT 2005
   Apr  6 19:55:15 ile kernel: eth0: flipped to 10baseT
   Apr  6 19:55:19 ile kernel: irq 11: nobody cared!
well there is a longstanding bug for the texas instruments pcmcia bridge
irq routing in current kernel sources since 2.6.6rc1, if you want more 
details about you can look at #270376 (yes scroll way down).

short resume, current upstream fix is not yet perfect but
seems to work for normal operations beside cardctl eject operations.
could you tested the kernel-image at:
http://charm.itp.tuwien.ac.at/~mattems/
(it's a 386 image, i'll post shortly a patched 686 there too).

would be cool to know if that helps for you too,
the other bug reporter has an PCI1220 bridge while yours is a PCI1225.
please post after boot of aboves 2.6.11 kernel:
* dmesg
* hexdump /proc/bus/pci/00/03.0
* hexdump /proc/bus/pci/00/03.1

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Grace period for kernel-source uploads

2005-04-09 Thread Jurij Smakov
Hello,
I think it would be really useful if whoever is planning the next 
kernel-source upload would give at least 24-hour advance warning by 
e-mailing debian-kernel that such upload is planned. That would give 
people a chance to review their patches, make last-minute additions and 
build a test kernel based on the new k-s. Just an idea, comments are 
welcome.

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Re: Grace period for kernel-source uploads

2005-04-09 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:12:57 -0400, Jurij Smakov wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I think it would be really useful if whoever is planning the next
 kernel-source upload would give at least 24-hour advance warning by
 e-mailing debian-kernel that such upload is planned. That would give
 people a chance to review their patches, make last-minute additions and
 build a test kernel based on the new k-s. Just an idea, comments are
 welcome.
 

I'd rather people do kernel-source uploads when they're needed.  One of
the problems with architectures all using k-s is, attempting to coordinate
a release that every arch is satisfied w/ is problematic.  People get
annoyed when their arch is ready to go, but they have to wait for some
other arch.  So, it's better to just release whenever.  We have
kernel-tree, which means kernel-image packages don't need to rebuild for
every k-s release.

The way this works in practice is; I get i386 in shape, release k-s
2.6.x-1.  Svenl gets powerpc ready, and dannf gets ia64 ready (though
they don't coordinate), and Sven releases k-s 2.6.x-2.  Horms throws some
security fixes in SVN; Joshk gets sparc ready, and releases k-s 2.6.x-3. 
Due to the security patches, other archs rebuild against 2.6.x-3.  And so
on.

If people want to give advance notice of a k-s release, that's fine, but
it shouldn't be a requirement.


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Re: Grace period for kernel-source uploads

2005-04-09 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Andres Salomon wrote:
The way this works in practice is; I get i386 in shape, release k-s
2.6.x-1.  Svenl gets powerpc ready, and dannf gets ia64 ready (though
they don't coordinate), and Sven releases k-s 2.6.x-2.  Horms throws some
security fixes in SVN; Joshk gets sparc ready, and releases k-s 2.6.x-3.
Due to the security patches, other archs rebuild against 2.6.x-3.  And so
on.
Don't you think that the way you described (and that's the way it works 
now) is the major reason behind the very long times it takes to push 
through the security updates on all architectures? That way it make take 
people a long time to make k-i even build against 2.6.x-3 due to broken 
arch-specific patches, missing/added kernel options, etc. I would rather
proactively track the changes in k-s, making sure that new k-i may be 
built against it immediately.

If people want to give advance notice of a k-s release, that's fine, but
it shouldn't be a requirement.
I am not saying that it should be a requirement, just something everyone 
can benefit from (especially in the case of ABI-breaking changes in k-s).

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Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-09 Thread Raul Miller
  It's impossible to treat patents consistently.

On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 04:38:15PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 Even RedHat with a stronger financial background than Debian considered 
 the MP3 patents being serious enough to remove MP3 support.

It's silly to treat financial risk as being a one dimensional quantity.

It could easily be that Red Hat decided that the mp3 patent owners would
be going after people with deep pockets.  If this is the risk model,
Red Hat's risk would be much much higher than Debian's.

 Note that this is a respose to Josselin's statement:
 
 When there are several possible interpretations, you have to pick up the
 more conservative one, as it's not up to us to make the interpretation,
 but to a court.

Sure, if you have several plausible interpretations, you pick the one
you feel is likely to be the most important, and if all of them seem
likely you pick the one that seems worst.

But, ultimately, you can't treat software patents consistently.
There's no reasonable way to do so.

 It's simply silly to be extremely picky on copyright issues while being 
 extremely liberal on patent issues - the risk of a Debian distributor 
 being sued for patent violations (no matter how the lawsuit might end) 
 is definitely present.

Anything to do with software patents is silly.  Being liberal about
software patents is silly.  Being conservative about software patents
is silly.

Copyright, while far from perfect, can at least be reasoned about.

  As for this particular patent, I'm not really sure what's being patented.
 ...

 Which one of the 23 patents they list do you call this particular
 patent?

What makes you think I'm sure about what's being patented in 22 of
those patents?

I should probably have said As for patent claims applying to mp3,
..., but the issue is thorny enough that even that might not have been
accurate enough.

But, treating this particular patent as a meta-syntactic variable
should be adequate for you to understand what I was saying.

Bottom line, though: softare patents generally make very little sense.

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Re: Grace period for kernel-source uploads

2005-04-09 Thread maximilian attems
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005, Jurij Smakov wrote:

 Don't you think that the way you described (and that's the way it works 
 now) is the major reason behind the very long times it takes to push 
 through the security updates on all architectures? That way it make take 
 people a long time to make k-i even build against 2.6.x-3 due to broken 
 arch-specific patches, missing/added kernel options, etc. I would rather
 proactively track the changes in k-s, making sure that new k-i may be 
 built against it immediately.

disagreed,
all the archs managed in the d-k svn got their updates steadily.
problems are the trees outside of it as well d-i udebs relying
on a stable abi, which is easily broken on many security fixes.
 
 I am not saying that it should be a requirement, just something everyone 
 can benefit from (especially in the case of ABI-breaking changes in k-s).

don't think so,
agreed with dillinger that current way works.

regads
maks
 


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Re: Grace period for kernel-source uploads

2005-04-09 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, maximilian attems wrote:
disagreed,
all the archs managed in the d-k svn got their updates steadily.
problems are the trees outside of it as well d-i udebs relying
on a stable abi, which is easily broken on many security fixes.
Quite on the contrary, with the current way of doing things we are 
continuously in a state with a skew between k-i versions on different 
arches. As Anders described, every arch maintainer builds the k-i against 
there own arch-specific k-s upload, which causes sync problems whenever 
a complete rebuild on all arches is required. I believe, that ideally k-i 
for _all_ arches should be rebuilt after every k-s upload, and Sven is 
working on a single source package for all k-i images to implement exactly 
that.

don't think so,
agreed with dillinger that current way works.
In the recent DPL campaign a lot of attention was focused on the lack of 
communication withing Debian. My proposal is one way to somewhat improve 
it within a kernel team, for what it's worth. If people insist on doing it 
the old way, fine with me.

regads
maks
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Bug#301701: kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7: System catatonic when tryingtowrite DVD or CD as user

2005-04-09 Thread Nick Hill

maximilian attems wrote:
which version of cdrecord or growisofs package are you using?
Both are listed in both the Debian and kernel.org bug along with plenty 
of other info.

Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01
* growisofs by [EMAIL PROTECTED], version 5.21
 cant duplicate your problem with 2.6.11 and newer kernels.
I have duplicated wthe bug with Debian 2.6.11-3 and Kernel.org 2.6.11.7. 
 The bug occurs every time. I hit reset, boot into 2.6.9 then it works OK.

Given the severity of the bug, I am surprised it has survived two kernel 
versions. For me, 2,6.10 and 2.6.11 have incrementally added three 
serious/ critical bugs, and only solved an ISO9660 file system issue 
(where files 2Gb would confuse the driver). The field is open for 
better systems of kernel development management than what we are seeing 
with the official kernel.

who are you to come up which such bad attitudes
and to think you gonna go anywhere?
Max, a world where people can't declare their opinions and observations 
(where someone else may not agree with them) would be a bad place. This 
is what distinguishes the mediaeval dark ages.

I don't think anyone should fall into the thinking the current process 
is perfect as that will block thinking of possible improvements.

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Bug#303970: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386: in /lib/modules, source - /home/dilinger/src/kernel/kernel-image/2.6.11-2/kernel-image-2.6.11-i386-2.6.11/install-386

2005-04-09 Thread Arthur Marsh
Package: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386
Version: 2.6.11-2
Severity: normal


/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-386 as installed has the following symbolic link:

source - 
/home/dilinger/src/kernel/kernel-image/2.6.11-2/kernel-image-2.6.11-i386-2.6.11/install-386

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i586)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.11-1-386
Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 depends on:
ii  coreutils [fileutils] 5.2.1-2The GNU core utilities
ii  fileutils 5.2.1-2The GNU file management utilities 
ii  initrd-tools  0.1.77 tools to create initrd image for p
ii  module-init-tools 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel mo

-- no debconf information


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Bug#295422: e2fsprogs for Sarge

2005-04-09 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:36:58PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 Hi Ted,
 
 It seems that I missunderstood the preferences expressed
 by Steve Langasek in my discussions with him. As it turns
 out he feels that it would be best to get 0.37-2 ready,
 as 0.37-1 is currently in sarge and has been beaten upon
 by users quite a bit. This should mittigate most of
 the need for review. And hopefully make your life
 a bit easier too.

OK, I've just uploaded e2fsprogs 1.37-2.  It is more than just the
IA-64 core dump fix, but they are all extremely low-risk bugfixes:

  * Fix filefrag so that it works non ext2/3 filesystems again.
(Closes: #303509)
  * Make sure we include stdlib.h to fix a core dump bug in mke2fs on the
IA64 architecture (or other platforms where sizeof(ptr)  sizeof(int))
(Closes: #302200)
  * Add missing return values so that we don't return garbage in certain
error cases in ext2fs_write_new_inode() and ext2fs_read_int_block().
  * Fix minor spelling typo in the mke2fs man page
  * Avoid doing the LOW_DTIME checks if the superblock last mount time
indicates that the system clock may not be set correctly.
  * Add further paranoia checks to the blkid, ext2fs, and ss libraries to
make them safe to call from setuid or setgid applications.

The diff file is quite small and easy to sanity check.

- Ted


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Bug#277942: ipv6 issues on sparc - can't reproduce

2005-04-09 Thread Jurij Smakov
Hi Wouter,
I have failed to reproduce the bug 277942 (oops/panic when 
loading or running with ipv6 module) with a recent kernel 
kernel-image-2.4.27-2-sparc64 version 2.4.27-9 (currently in sid).
My machine is Ultra5 with Happy Meal network card as well (TP
connection though). Could you please check that the problem is still 
present for you?

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Re: Grace period for kernel-source uploads

2005-04-09 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:55:23 -0400, Jurij Smakov wrote:

 On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Andres Salomon wrote:
 
 The way this works in practice is; I get i386 in shape, release k-s
 2.6.x-1.  Svenl gets powerpc ready, and dannf gets ia64 ready (though
 they don't coordinate), and Sven releases k-s 2.6.x-2.  Horms throws
 some security fixes in SVN; Joshk gets sparc ready, and releases k-s
 2.6.x-3. Due to the security patches, other archs rebuild against
 2.6.x-3.  And so on.
 
 Don't you think that the way you described (and that's the way it works
 now) is the major reason behind the very long times it takes to push
 through the security updates on all architectures? That way it make take

Not at all.  Security updates would still take a long time if you had to
announce a k-s release, wait for 8 or so architectures to say ok, we're
ready to go!, do a release, and then wait for their uploads.  What causes
this process to take so long is the fact that kernels aren't built for
every k-s upgrade; that should be fixed once we have k-s generating images.


 people a long time to make k-i even build against 2.6.x-3 due to
broken
 arch-specific patches, missing/added kernel options, etc. I would rather
 proactively track the changes in k-s, making sure that new k-i may be
 built against it immediately.
 

That should always be the case, unless a security update affects something
on your architecture, or you screw up something on your arch w/ a prior
patch. :)


 If people want to give advance notice of a k-s release, that's fine,
 but it shouldn't be a requirement.
 
 I am not saying that it should be a requirement, just something everyone
 can benefit from (especially in the case of ABI-breaking changes in
 k-s).

ABI-breaking changes are a special case; unfortunately, we don't have any
infrastructure in place to handle that right now.  ABI breaking changes
should definitely be given more consideration, and announced on d-k so
that arch kernel maintainers know to bump the ABINAME on their packages.



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