Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moin Joerg! Joerg Schilling schrieb am Sonntag, den 27. Februar 2005: If you like to have a decent CDDA extraction you need to use generic SCSI and this is done by using the SCSI address syntax instead of filnames. Oh my... man causality man partial_order It is really bad to see that this poor person still has no clue and still refuses to read man pages :-( In order to find out whether this person is not the only one who has problems to understand simple facts, let me elaborate the previous mail... On 2005-02-26 Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dev=ATA and dev=/dev/hdX are definitely not supposed to do the same thing. Background is here that cdda2wav documents that dev=/dev/hdX tells cdda2wav to use cooked audio ioctl's like: ioctl(fd, CDROMREADTOCENTRY, ... instead of sending SCSI commands directly to the drive. man cdda2wav also tells you that most OS behave really bad with cooked audio ioctl's and for this reason recommends to enable to use Generic SCSI by using the SCSI address syntax together with the dev= option (e.g. dev=6,0). This resulted in a question: What is the correct devicename on Linux 2.6, if I want DMA? And I did reply that I would expect to see DMA for all ways to send Generic SCSI commands on Linux and that the problem is that the Linux kernel developers refuse to fix the bugs that prevent DMA from happen with most interfaces. I also replied that a decent OS only needs one single interface to send Generic SCSI commands. Another questin was: dev=ATA is not documented in cdda2wav(1) (from 2.01.01a01). Well, I was asuming that people know that all SCSI tools use libscg and in case a single man page does not contain _all_ information it makes sense to check other man pages (e.g. the man page from cdrecord). I also asume that Linux users _know_ what to do I am sorry but I am not responsible for the fact that the Linux kernel developers do not like to evolve an existing interface that would give thet best result but rather introduce new and unneeded new interfaces that include new bugs that are not fixed also.. You try to force you own design ideas by any means (here: ignoring the actual question and presenting your biased definition as a fact) and in the same breath you accuse Linux kernel developers of not caring about their users. Who t.f. do you expect to listen to you after a such action? Well, in former times it was possible to see desigh ideas in the Linux kernel. This it no longer true since at least 2 years. What you see instead is total confusion. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
On 2005-02-26 Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dev=ATA and dev=/dev/hdX are definitely not supposed to do the same thing. Hello, What is the correct devicename on Linux 2.6, if I want DMA? Check the cdda2wav(1) man page. dev=ATA is not documented in cdda2wav(1) (from 2.01.01a01). cu andreas -- See, I told you they'd listen to Reason, [SPOILER] Svfurlr fnlf, fuhggvat qbja gur juveyvat tha. Neal Stephenson in Snow Crash http://downhill.aus.cc/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-02-26 Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dev=ATA and dev=/dev/hdX are definitely not supposed to do the same thing. Hello, What is the correct devicename on Linux 2.6, if I want DMA? This is the wrong question: If you like to have DMA, you need to push the Linux kernel guys to fix their kernel bugs that habe been reported nearly a decade ago If the Linux kernel developers would listen to their users, we would have one single interface for SCSI generic and this interface would include ATAPI, USB, FireWire, PP-SCSI, . drives _with_ DMA support if the hardware supports DMA at all. Unfortunately, the Linux kernel developers do not like to fix bugs but rather implement new additional interfaces that do not work for all drives too and create them with just different bugs they also refuse to fix Check the cdda2wav(1) man page. dev=ATA is not documented in cdda2wav(1) (from 2.01.01a01). cu andreas So it seems that you did not read the cdda2wav man page man cdda2wav clearly states that dev= parameters that look like file names refer to the cooked Audio ioctls that do not work decently on any know OS. If you like to have a decent CDDA extraction you need to use generic SCSI and this is done by using the SCSI address syntax instead of filnames. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
Moin Joerg! Joerg Schilling schrieb am Sonntag, den 27. Februar 2005: If you like to have a decent CDDA extraction you need to use generic SCSI and this is done by using the SCSI address syntax instead of filnames. Oh my... man causality man partial_order You try to force you own design ideas by any means (here: ignoring the actual question and presenting your biased definition as a fact) and in the same breath you accuse Linux kernel developers of not caring about their users. Who t.f. do you expect to listen to you after a such action? Regards, Eduard. -- For any stupid thing chosen at random, you'll find at least 5 people on the Internet who thinks it's a good idea. -- Steve Langasek in debian-devel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
dev=ATA and dev=/dev/hdX are definitely not supposed to do the same thing. Check the cdda2wav(1) man page. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
Hi, just want to mention that I can reproduce the problem with a kernel built from kernel-source-2.6.8-12 using: cdda2wav -t 1 dev=ATA:1,0,0 and cdda2wav -t 1 dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 However it does not occur when I specify the device as cdda2wav -t 1 dev=/dev/hdc I can also state that paranoia mode takes more time however my CPU consumption stays calm. Device is a LG GSA-4040B. HTH, Florian -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#268621: Reproducable in parts
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 05:14:40PM +0100, Florian Boelstler wrote: Hi, just want to mention that I can reproduce the problem with a kernel built from kernel-source-2.6.8-12 using: cdda2wav -t 1 dev=ATA:1,0,0 and cdda2wav -t 1 dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 However it does not occur when I specify the device as cdda2wav -t 1 dev=/dev/hdc At which point it's NOTABUG. You shall not use dev=ATA or dev=ATAPI. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
