Bug#502668: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux

2009-01-21 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 05:42:25PM -0400, David Worthen wrote:
> Thanks for the info Ben. Can you re-send the original message? I didn't 
> save the recommended texts of the licenses.

Hi David

Ben didn't mention this, but if you could release the source code instead,
it would be most appreciated.

This would allow us to distribute the firmware as part of official Debian
media, rather than the non-free repository, and be the most satisfactory
solution for those of our users who are concerned about security and about
being in control of the hardware they adquired from you.

Thanks for considering,

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Bug#502668: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux

2008-10-23 Thread Vincent Danjean
David Worthen wrote:
> Thanks for the info Ben. Can you re-send the original message? I didn't
> save the recommended texts of the licenses.

The message is available here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/10/msg00447.html

  Best regards,
Vincent

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Bug#502668: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux

2008-10-22 Thread David Worthen
Thanks for the info Ben. Can you re-send the original message? I didn't save 
the recommended texts of the licenses.

Many thanks, david

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "David Worthen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux



On Fri, Mar 21, 2031 at 04:17:18AM -0400, David Worthen wrote:

Hi Ben,
We would be most pleased to clarify license as suggested below. Where do
you suggest we place the text captioned below?
Regards, david


Your chosen licence text should appear at the top of whiteheat_fw.h in
place of the current GPLv2 text.  Please send the new version of
whiteheat_fw.h by way of confirmation.  Thanks a lot!

Ben.

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Bug#502668: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux

2008-10-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Mar 21, 2031 at 04:17:18AM -0400, David Worthen wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> We would be most pleased to clarify license as suggested below. Where do 
> you suggest we place the text captioned below?
> Regards, david

Your chosen licence text should appear at the top of whiteheat_fw.h in
place of the current GPLv2 text.  Please send the new version of
whiteheat_fw.h by way of confirmation.  Thanks a lot!

Ben.

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Bug#502668: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux

2008-10-21 Thread David Worthen

Hi Ben,
We would be most pleased to clarify license as suggested below. Where do you 
suggest we place the text captioned below?

Regards, david


- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux



I am writing as a member of the Debian project, which distributes a
version of Linux.  The project is attempting to resolve the licencing of
firmware used with Linux.  The following may require attention by your
legal department.

Linux includes a driver and firmware for WhiteHEAT which are listed as
copyright of ConnectTech Inc and licenced under the GNU General Public
Licence (GPL).  Thank you for supporting Linux and free software.

Unfortunately, applying the GPL to the firmware is problematic, because
you distribute it in binary (or equivalent) form, and not the source
code that your programmers used to create it.  The GPL states that
anyone redistributing a work that it covers must also offer to
distribute the source code.  This means that strictly speaking no-one
outside ConnectTech Inc is allowed to distribute the firmware, which I
assume was not your intent.

Please can you clarify the licence for the firmware, and preferably
issue a new licence that clearly allows Debian and others to distribute
the firmware.  Other hardware vendors have used text such as:

   Permission is hereby granted for the distribution of this firmware
   data in hexadecimal or equivalent format, provided this copyright
   notice is accompanying it.

or:

   Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted 
provided

   that the following conditions are met:
   1. Redistribution of source code must retain the above copyright
  notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
   2. Redistribution in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
  notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
  the documentation and/or other materials provided with the
  distribution.
   3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote
  products derived from this software without specific prior written
  permission.

Ben.

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Bug#502668: WhiteHEAT driver and firmware distribution for Linux

2008-10-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
I am writing as a member of the Debian project, which distributes a
version of Linux.  The project is attempting to resolve the licencing of
firmware used with Linux.  The following may require attention by your
legal department.

Linux includes a driver and firmware for WhiteHEAT which are listed as
copyright of ConnectTech Inc and licenced under the GNU General Public
Licence (GPL).  Thank you for supporting Linux and free software.

Unfortunately, applying the GPL to the firmware is problematic, because
you distribute it in binary (or equivalent) form, and not the source
code that your programmers used to create it.  The GPL states that
anyone redistributing a work that it covers must also offer to
distribute the source code.  This means that strictly speaking no-one
outside ConnectTech Inc is allowed to distribute the firmware, which I
assume was not your intent.

Please can you clarify the licence for the firmware, and preferably
issue a new licence that clearly allows Debian and others to distribute
the firmware.  Other hardware vendors have used text such as:

Permission is hereby granted for the distribution of this firmware
data in hexadecimal or equivalent format, provided this copyright
notice is accompanying it.

or:

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted provided
that the following conditions are met:
1. Redistribution of source code must retain the above copyright
   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
2. Redistribution in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
   the documentation and/or other materials provided with the
   distribution.
3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote
   products derived from this software without specific prior written
   permission.

Ben.

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