Re: Bug#765380: don't ship gcc-4.8 with jessie

2014-10-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 20:24 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Am 17.10.2014 um 19:44 schrieb Steve Cotton:
  On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 05:25:13PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
  Package: src:gcc-4.8
  Version: 4.8.3-11
  Severity: serious
  Tags: sid jessie
 
  The current default for GCC (4.9) is good enough for jessie. Don't ship 
  legacy
  compilers with jessie.
  
  Hi Matthias,
  
  Removing GCC 4.8 will need Linux kernel ABI transitions.
  
  I haven't seen any discussion on the debian-kernel list, and the
  latest of the Linux package (uploaded to sid this week) still has
  it generating linux-compiler-* packages depending on gcc-4.8, so
  I think the Linux maintainers are expecting GCC 4.8 to be in
  Jessie.
 
 This was communicated to Ben Hutching at DebConf, so plenty of time to prepare
 the change.  Are there known showstoppers?

Bastian said it was generating invalid code for some parts of the kernel
on s390x, and I relayed that to you then.  He says this is unfixed.

I expect that x86, arm*, arm64, and powerpc* kernels have been well-
tested with gcc 4.9.  Out of our release architectures, that would leave
mips and mipsel as unknown.

Ben.

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Re: Bug#765380: don't ship gcc-4.8 with jessie

2014-10-17 Thread Steve Cotton
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 05:25:13PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Package: src:gcc-4.8
 Version: 4.8.3-11
 Severity: serious
 Tags: sid jessie
 
 The current default for GCC (4.9) is good enough for jessie. Don't ship legacy
 compilers with jessie.

Hi Matthias,

Removing GCC 4.8 will need Linux kernel ABI transitions.

I haven't seen any discussion on the debian-kernel list, and the
latest of the Linux package (uploaded to sid this week) still has
it generating linux-compiler-* packages depending on gcc-4.8, so
I think the Linux maintainers are expecting GCC 4.8 to be in
Jessie.

(CC'ing the debian-kernel list for comments)

Regards,
Steve


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Re: Bug#765380: don't ship gcc-4.8 with jessie

2014-10-17 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 17.10.2014 um 19:44 schrieb Steve Cotton:
 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 05:25:13PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Package: src:gcc-4.8
 Version: 4.8.3-11
 Severity: serious
 Tags: sid jessie

 The current default for GCC (4.9) is good enough for jessie. Don't ship 
 legacy
 compilers with jessie.
 
 Hi Matthias,
 
 Removing GCC 4.8 will need Linux kernel ABI transitions.
 
 I haven't seen any discussion on the debian-kernel list, and the
 latest of the Linux package (uploaded to sid this week) still has
 it generating linux-compiler-* packages depending on gcc-4.8, so
 I think the Linux maintainers are expecting GCC 4.8 to be in
 Jessie.

This was communicated to Ben Hutching at DebConf, so plenty of time to prepare
the change.  Are there known showstoppers?

Matthias


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