Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3

2006-10-31 Thread maximilian attems
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Oleg Verych wrote:

 Hallo, Frederik.
 
 On 2006-10-10, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 []
 
  As usual, if someone needs more time for pending changes, drop a line.
 
 May i ask, what is general rules to accept changes?
you didn't look at the wiki heh
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines

 For example .19-rc linux kernel has some valuable changes in drivers,
 that can support more hardware (in my case Realtek gigabit ethernet and
 Intel SATA, all in one box ;) Is it possible to accept some backports ?

the r8169 fixes are all backported afaik.
what sata fixes are you pointing too, be more precise?
 
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Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3

2006-10-31 Thread Oleg Verych
On 2006-10-31, maximilian attems wrote:
[]
 May i ask, what is general rules to accept changes?
 you didn't look at the wiki heh
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines

Thanks.

 For example .19-rc linux kernel has some valuable changes in drivers,
 that can support more hardware (in my case Realtek gigabit ethernet and
 Intel SATA, all in one box ;) Is it possible to accept some backports ?

 the r8169 fixes are all backported afaik.
 what sata fixes are you pointing too, be more precise?

OK, it's all seems OK now. (i've used .19-rcX on the new machine, to bring it
up; now i've installed 2.6.18-3, rebooted)



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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-21 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 FWIW, Falk Hueffner prepared the following patch which just needs
 testing: http://people.debian.org/~falk/alpha-no-ev4-directive.patch

Included in gcc-4.1 4.1.1ds2-17.

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Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3

2006-10-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:10:56AM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
 Hallo, Frederik.
 
 On 2006-10-10, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 []
 
  As usual, if someone needs more time for pending changes, drop a line.
 
 May i ask, what is general rules to accept changes?
 
 For example .19-rc linux kernel has some valuable changes in drivers,
 that can support more hardware (in my case Realtek gigabit ethernet and
 Intel SATA, all in one box ;) Is it possible to accept some backports ?

It probably is. We never got to hold the discussion about this during the irc
meeting, so i guess once the firmware issue is definitively cleared, we need
to hold a new irc meeting, to fix the rules for that.

That said, in the current state of affairs, we probably need to drop tg3,
acenic, and a couple of GPL sourceless modules from the upcoming 2.6.18 kernel
uploads. Not sure what to do about this, should we hold any kernel uploads
until the second vote which contains the resolution which we wanted is voted
on (presumably 10 days or so from now), upload a pruned kernel, and then
revert the pruning if the second resolution passes, or just ignore the whole
issue ? 

To the RMs, will you then now, as you said you would before the vote, allow us
to release a kernel which is in direct contradiction of what the resolution
recently voted upon says ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3

2006-10-14 Thread Oleg Verych
Hallo, Frederik.

On 2006-10-10, Frederik Schueler wrote:
[]

 As usual, if someone needs more time for pending changes, drop a line.

May i ask, what is general rules to accept changes?

For example .19-rc linux kernel has some valuable changes in drivers,
that can support more hardware (in my case Realtek gigabit ethernet and
Intel SATA, all in one box ;) Is it possible to accept some backports ?

Thanks.





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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Matthias Klose ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061013 06:43]:
 Even if the kernel cannot be built with 4.1, it would be nice to have
 bug reports. I'm not aware of any alpha related reports, although it's
 not my pet arch.

Of course.

 I'm still planning not to build g++-4.0 from the 4.0 sources, now that
 all packages are built using 4.1 or using 3.4 as a fallback. We'll
 need the 4.0 source anyway to build libgcc2 on hppa and glibc on the
 hurd.

Good. That means that switching alpha to 4.1 would just be nice
anyways.

Thanks.


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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Norbert Tretkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-12 22:52]:
 * Jurij Smakov wrote:
  What needs to be done for alpha? Does it FTBFS with gcc 4.1?
 Yes.
 
  Anybody can run a build and make the log available?
 
 Tomorrow.

FWIW, Falk Hueffner prepared the following patch which just needs
testing: http://people.debian.org/~falk/alpha-no-ev4-directive.patch
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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-13 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 * Norbert Tretkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-12 22:52]:
  * Jurij Smakov wrote:
   What needs to be done for alpha? Does it FTBFS with gcc 4.1?
 
  Yes.
  
   Anybody can run a build and make the log available?
  
  Tomorrow.
 
 FWIW, Falk Hueffner prepared the following patch which just needs
 testing: http://people.debian.org/~falk/alpha-no-ev4-directive.patch

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Norbert


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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-13 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:11:06AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
 
   On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
   I would like to schedule the upload of linux-2.6 2.6.18-3 for next
   Thursday, 12th October.
 
   Now we have the desired date, nothing happened to the following issues.
 
   Two big issues are still open:
   - hppa FTBFS
   - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency
 
   What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?
 
  Is this ext3 corruption issue also on the kernel team's radar?
 
  http://lwn.net/Articles/203536/
  http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/55309.html
 
  Apologies if it's a known and/or fixed issue.
  best regards,
 
 That would seem to warrant an RC bug?
 
 Please, if you know of such issues that should prevent pushing the current
 2.6.18 packages into testing, file them as bugs of the appropriate severity.

we are awaiting 2.6.18.1 for it.
seems a bit delayed still.

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Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 I would like to schedule the upload of linux-2.6 2.6.18-3 for next
 Thursday, 12th October.

Now we have the desired date, nothing happened to the following issues.

 Two big issues are still open:
 - hppa FTBFS
 - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency

What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?

Bastian

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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Andreas Barth
* Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061012 12:41]:
 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
  Two big issues are still open:
  - hppa FTBFS
  - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency
 
 What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?

I don't think it is an option to ship Debian without hppa and alpha
kernels.

So, the only two options seem to me:
a) someone fixes these issues, or
b) we ship with what we have in etch now, that is 2.6.17.


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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 01:58:53PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
 So, the only two options seem to me:
 b) we ship with what we have in etch now, that is 2.6.17.

This is no option.

Bastian

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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:41:00PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
  I would like to schedule the upload of linux-2.6 2.6.18-3 for next
  Thursday, 12th October.
 
 Now we have the desired date, nothing happened to the following issues.
 
  Two big issues are still open:
  - hppa FTBFS
  - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency
 
 What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?

hppa FTBFS does not look like something worth disabling the port for, 
it appears that compiler version check is just broken. What needs to 
be done for alpha? Does it FTBFS with gcc 4.1? Anybody can run a 
build and make the log available? I'm willing to have a look at those. 
It appears that paer is accessible, but escher (the only DD-accessible 
alpha, AFAIK) is in lock down.

One RC issue was recently uncovered on sparc too: 2.6.18 does not boot 
on rather popular SunBlade 100/150 machines (392078). Upstream is 
aware of the problem and I'm going to work on it myself in the next 
few days.

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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Bastian Blank wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 I would like to schedule the upload of linux-2.6 2.6.18-3 for next
 Thursday, 12th October.
 
 Now we have the desired date, nothing happened to the following issues.
 
 Two big issues are still open:
 - hppa FTBFS
 - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency
 
 What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?

Is this ext3 corruption issue also on the kernel team's radar?

http://lwn.net/Articles/203536/
http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/55309.html

Apologies if it's a known and/or fixed issue.
best regards,

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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 01:58:53PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
 * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061012 12:41]:
  On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
   Two big issues are still open:
   - hppa FTBFS
   - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency

  What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?

 I don't think it is an option to ship Debian without hppa and alpha
 kernels.

 So, the only two options seem to me:
 a) someone fixes these issues, or
 b) we ship with what we have in etch now, that is 2.6.17.

The gcc-4.0 build-dependency is not new in 2.6.18, the current kernel in
testing has the same issue.  And I can see no reason to treat this as RC.

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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:11:06AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:

  On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
  I would like to schedule the upload of linux-2.6 2.6.18-3 for next
  Thursday, 12th October.

  Now we have the desired date, nothing happened to the following issues.

  Two big issues are still open:
  - hppa FTBFS
  - alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency

  What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?

 Is this ext3 corruption issue also on the kernel team's radar?

 http://lwn.net/Articles/203536/
 http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/55309.html

 Apologies if it's a known and/or fixed issue.
 best regards,

That would seem to warrant an RC bug?

Please, if you know of such issues that should prevent pushing the current
2.6.18 packages into testing, file them as bugs of the appropriate severity.

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Re: Serious issues with linux-2.6 (was: Re: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3)

2006-10-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Steve Langasek writes:
 On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 01:58:53PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
  * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061012 12:41]:
   On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:53:58PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
Two big issues are still open:
- hppa FTBFS
- alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency
 
   What should we do with them? Finally disable alpha and hppa(64)?
 
  I don't think it is an option to ship Debian without hppa and alpha
  kernels.
 
  So, the only two options seem to me:
  a) someone fixes these issues, or
  b) we ship with what we have in etch now, that is 2.6.17.
 
 The gcc-4.0 build-dependency is not new in 2.6.18, the current kernel in
 testing has the same issue.  And I can see no reason to treat this as RC.

some weeks ago, I asked what compiler version would be used for kernel
compiles; I got the impression that the kernel team did want to switch
to 4.1.

Even if the kernel cannot be built with 4.1, it would be nice to have
bug reports. I'm not aware of any alpha related reports, although it's
not my pet arch.

I'm still planning not to build g++-4.0 from the 4.0 sources, now that
all packages are built using 4.1 or using 3.4 as a fallback. We'll
need the 4.0 source anyway to build libgcc2 on hppa and glibc on the
hurd.

  Matthias


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Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.18-3

2006-10-10 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

I would like to schedule the upload of linux-2.6 2.6.18-3 for next
Thursday, 12th October.

Two big issues are still open:
- hppa FTBFS
- alpha gcc-4.0 build dependency

according to [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2.6.17 builds fine on
alpha with gcc-4.1 with the minor changes applied. This needs to be
ported to 2.6.18.

The firmware issue is still open, too; we will wait for the GRs to be
done though, before doing anything in this concern.

As usual, if someone needs more time for pending changes, drop a line.


Best regards
Frederik Schueler


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