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[Debian-l10n-devel] Plans for a Debian i18n sprint "towards i18n.debian.org" in Paris, June 15th-17th
Hello folks, and Stefano, A "Debian i18n sprint" has been loosely discussed in the last weeks, either on this mailing list (that gathers people involved in the maintenance of the Debian i18n resources) or on #debian-i18n IRC channel. The maint motivation of this meeting are the problems we're facing with the current i18n.debian.net server, hosted since 2006 by the Junta de Extremadura, in Spain. This server is reaching its EOL but many Debian services do indeed depend on it: - DDTP and DDTSS infrastructure (translation of packages descriptions) - i18n tracking robots used by several localization teams - gathering of l10n material pointed by pages under http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n During DebConf 11, some work was done by Felipe Augusto van de Wiel and Nicolas François along with DSA to prepare an i18n.debian.org machine that could host these services. Also, we've recently been offerred by Martin Bagge a hosting machine named "skumbanan", hosted in Sweden, which could host services as well in case they can't be moved immediately to i18n.debian.org. All this is a strong motive for organizing a Debian i18n sprint as soon as possible. DebConf 12 is not really an option as it seems that too few of the i18n people will really be there. Being (it seems) one of the key people for this, I proposed to schedule the meeting to a date which would be convenient for me..:-). Also, I assumed that IRILL, in Paris, that already hosted some Debian sprints, could host another one. Zack can probably help in this. So, I would propose trying to organize this. Of course, the meeting is meant to be opened to anyone, as any Debian meeting. However, there are a few "key" people who I really would like to see attending: - Felipe Augusto van de Wiel, as the person who prepared i18n.d.o Felipe would need to come from Brazil - Nicolas François, as the one who helped him Nicolas would need to come from...Paris..:) - me as benevolent dictator..:-). I would need to come from Paris suburbs... - Martijn van Oosterhout, as the person who is the most aware of the DDT* things. I think Martijn lives in the Netherlands - Martin Bagge, who offerred help many times, has already a login on churro (the current machine). He would need to come from Sweden - Michael "grisu" Bramer, who designed and maintains the DDTP...but he already mentioned it's quite likely he couldn't attend. He would come from Germany (Rhein-Ruhr region, afaik) - maybe 1 or 2 persons from the DSA team, who could help in taking good design decisions for the hosted services. If I'm correct, most DSA team members live in western Europe. - maybe David Prévot or someone else from the debian-www team. I mention David here because he's deeply involved in both www or i18n. David would need to come from Martinique and, being a teacher, is quite likely to *not* be free at that time. But I guess most other debian-www folks would qualify too (Francesca,Kåre, Rhonda first come to mind) Again, that would not be a closed "cabal" meeting and anyone is free to come, however, travel funding would not be guaranteed outside the aforementioned people (though this is certainly not *my* decision. As of now, all details have yet to be decided and discussed. The only thing I am sure about is the date : that week-end is the only one where I can organize the meeting and attend it, before summer. So, at first glance: - who, among the people mentioned above, could attend such meeting? - who did I forget? :-) - Zack, is IRILL a possible option (the meeting would be Friday, Saturday and part of Sunday. I would propose people to arrive on thursday and leave on Sunday or Monday). Of course, once things are secured enough, I'll announce the meeting the proper way, as described on http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/SponsoringGuidelines. But, first, I need to have a good idea about the meeting being possible..:-) -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Plans for a Debian i18n sprint "towards i18n.debian.org" in Paris, June 15th-17th
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:40:54PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> A "Debian i18n sprint" has been loosely discussed in the last weeks,
> either on this mailing list (that gathers people involved in the
> maintenance of the Debian i18n resources) or on #debian-i18n IRC
> channel.
YAY, I've been hoping for this to happens for a while now :-) Thanks!
> Also, we've recently been offerred by Martin Bagge a hosting machine
> named "skumbanan", hosted in Sweden, which could host services as well
> in case they can't be moved immediately to i18n.debian.org.
This part, is really between you and DSA. I see as a project goal to
have the localization infrastructure hosted on DSA-administered
hardware. But for this to happen you need to reach out to each other,
discuss the mutual needs for this to happen, etc. Having someone from
DSA taking part in the sprint might be an efficient way to do so, but it
depends on people availability, of course.
> All this is a strong motive for organizing a Debian i18n sprint as
> soon as possible. DebConf 12 is not really an option as it seems that
> too few of the i18n people will really be there.
>
> Being (it seems) one of the key people for this, I proposed to
> schedule the meeting to a date which would be convenient for me..:-).
Good, as that reduces the discussion time for finding a date :-)
I'm a bit worried about the conjunct effects of (1) organizing a sprint
on a short notice and (2) sponsoring the travel costs of people
traveling oversea. We have routinely done (2) in the past, and that is
not a problem, but doing it on a short notice makes cost go up a lot
(depending on how short the notice is...). Anyhow, as it is clearly
better to have this sprint on a short notice than not having it at all,
I don't have any a priori objection.
Please follow the guidelines at http://wiki.debian.org/Sprints , and in
particular please arrive to the point where you have a rough idea of the
sprint budget. We'll worry about money at that point.
And given that to pick a date you'll likely need a venue ...
> Also, I assumed that IRILL, in Paris, that already hosted some Debian
> sprints, could host another one. Zack can probably help in this.
... yes, IRILL is generally available for Debian sprints. Please check
with Sylvestre Ledru to avoid double "bookings" of its facilities, but
AFAICT there are no big events planned before the summer, so it
shouldn't be a problem. For completeness, we also have Logilab as an
alternative venue in Paris; see http://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/Venues
Looking forward for this sprint to happen!
Cheers.
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