Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP server went down (again)
I'm getting "No route to host". Sorry guys. AFAIK no-one has console access :( I'll see if I can get the machine rebooted at least... Have a nice day, On 18 November 2017 at 15:21, Boyuan Yang <073p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > ddtp2.debian.net is not working again. Plain HTTP request would be blocked > till timeout. HTTPS request will be blocked when doing handshake. > > Please investigate into this issue. > > Regards, > Boyuan Yang -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Is DDTP server down?
I have no idea. I can't reach it now either. The SSH port is responding but not accepting my SSH key... Mvg, On 14 October 2017 at 17:33, Boyuan Yang <073p...@gmail.com> wrote: > [ cc me please -- not on list ] > > Hello all, > > I noticed that ddtp2.debian.net could not be reached for a while. Could > you > please check it? > > Thanks, > Boyuan Yang -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP wishlist
I replaced Squeeze with Stretch, never noticed that before. Not sure about the mail interface, will look in the morning Have a nice day, On 5 April 2017 at 22:13, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > As the machine (117.121.245.169) is currently down I would like > to mention two minor issuses. > > - ddtp2.debian.net still provides translation statistics > for Squeeze, but not for Stretch. > - The mail interface does not send mail answers anymore. > > Martin > > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now
On 30 November 2016 at 09:21, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On 30 Nov 2016 00:13, "Thomas Vincent" wrote: > > > > On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync options: > > > > > < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the command to "/usr/bin/rsync > --server --sender -tre.Lsfx --safe-links . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/." > (different options) > > > I recently made dak's rsync call a bit restrictive and rsync is picky > > about the options being the same on both sides > > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014.html) > > > > Maybe that would explain the rsync error in the logs. > > > > I can do this tonight if no one beats me to it. > Ok done, lets see if this helps. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now
On 30 Nov 2016 00:13, "Thomas Vincent" wrote: > > On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync options: > > > < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the command to "/usr/bin/rsync --server --sender -tre.Lsfx --safe-links . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/." (different options) > > I recently made dak's rsync call a bit restrictive and rsync is picky > about the options being the same on both sides > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014.html) > > Maybe that would explain the rsync error in the logs. > I can do this tonight if no one beats me to it. Martijn ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now
On 29 November 2016 at 10:46, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: > On 2016-11-28 23:17, Thomas Vincent wrote: > > On #debian-ftp, Thorsten Altenholz just provided me these logs: > > > >>> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1 A, missing > >>> the timestamp 201605182232 directory, not updating i18n, > > > Inside that directory it expects a file called timestamp and that file > hwas a value that will be used as TSTAMP variable. For some reason > that value is set to something in the past (last successful execution?). > At line 75 the check for the directory of that timestamp fails and the > above message is shown (see line 91) and the familiar "arf arf" mails > to debian-l10n-devel@l.d.o is sent (line 92). > > The timestamp it should be referring to is the one here: https://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/ That's the file that the DDTP downloads and uses to generate the files to upload. Why the script is not seeing it indicates some changed paths somewhere along the way? Probably means it's also checking the wrong place for other file too. This proposal about changing the messages still holds some merit btw =) > https://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2013/05/msg00068.html > I assume that the other parts of that message got taken care of since. > > Oh that patch, yeah, that would be real nice :) Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now
On 27 November 2016 at 23:27, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Now that I look in the logs I see these messages: > > Nov 27 19:52:15 ddtp sshd[20762]: Authentication tried for ddtp-dak with > correct key but not from a permitted host (host=138.16.160.17, > ip=138.16.160.17). > > Ok, I've now got the following in the logs: Nov 28 13:53:07 ddtp sshd[31134]: Accepted publickey for ddtp-dak from 138.16.160.17 port 47875 ssh2 Nov 28 13:53:07 ddtp sshd[31134]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user ddtp-dak by (uid=0) Nov 28 13:53:07 ddtp sshd[31134]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user ddtp-dak So the files can now be downloaded by dak, but I don't see any updates on the ftp.debian.org. Any other ideas? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now
> Well, the issue is not really about interest nor skills as we are > probably many people motivated in solving this. > The real problem is about access: currently the ddtp/ddtss service is > hosted on a machine that is accessible by very few people (I would say > kleptog and bubulle) and these people are not as available as they used > to be… :/ > > Well, the problem is that the whole process is so complicated and obscure that when it doesn't work it takes ages to work out why. The ddtp server is generating all the necessary files just fine, you can find them here: http://ddtp2.debian.net/debian/ In another thread someone commented: > On #debian-ftp, it has been suggested that the DDTP server may be > missing the public key of the user ddtp-dak, or maybe the user itself. IIRC the DDTP downloads via HTTP some signed files, generates the translations, and signs the results. Dak should then download the files from the DDTP via SSH. It does this using the following in the authorized_keys file: command="/usr/bin/rsync --server --sender -logDtpr . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/.",from="ries.debian.org,128.148.34.103, franck.debian.org,128.148.34.3",no-agent-forwarding,no-port-forwarding,no-pty,no-X11-forwarding ssh-rsa B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAQEA5OLKpG43Iz1PmGgCgSL9VgnqV7p1Q3B/2rkzTLU3n57WqRwilPDr3oaGQQeBxS9NOSvGHO8KKPOcrTbAFAz5GUhdofjp2Eg0e+z5di+7QCGu/xesHn+NJuv8M2pq4h2VTpxS9KQttipNzZ2578y2wXo1zy3P7vnxiHu+a1JGs+XadurLcumy5746wuMEWuLwjCeY8AS+FgXuQbLoRJshOTC4NRWRfxV1CVWizoSts1WrKHTFmo5/W2Ao2NUXVpHKU2bmxUA1ooNDtu8mVgbZrYvrYrCcxeMqJVP+vVuU4tz6OGrgwwI+035QGiT34qAdAoKNQj4fpqtG17XFrzewww== ddtp-dak@churro Now that I look in the logs I see these messages: Nov 27 19:52:15 ddtp sshd[20762]: Authentication tried for ddtp-dak with correct key but not from a permitted host (host=138.16.160.17, ip=138.16.160.17). Maybe they changed IP? This appears to be a machine http://fasolo.debian.org/ which is apparently the new alias for ftp-master.debian.org? What I've done now is changed the file to accept from that IP, see if that helps. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS down [?]
As noted in my other email, the disk was full... Have a nice day, On 12 September 2016 at 08:55, helix84 wrote: > The same thing happend to me around the same time yesterday. I didn't > report it because it was working again in very few minutes. It is also > working now. > > > Regards, > ~~helix84 > > Compulsory reading: DSpace Mailing List Etiquette > https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/Mailing+List+Etiquette > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Beatrice Torracca > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the DDTSS stopped working for me circa 20 mins ago (8.15 CEST). > > > > I can reach ddtp2.debian.net for the package description pages (e.g. > http://ddtp2.debian.net/ddt.cgi?desc_id=245197&getuntrans=it) , but not > the DDTSS not for Italian or the other languages I tried. > > > > When I try to reach the DDTSS pages I get An "Internal server error > [...] Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) Server at ddtp2.debian.net Port 443" > > > > Thanks, > > > > beatrice. > > -- > > > > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] ddtp.debian.net unreachable
On 24 August 2016 at 23:08, Thomas Vincent wrote: > Hello i18n/l10n people, > > On 24/08/2016 00:01, Thomas Vincent wrote: > > On 23/08/2016 01:12, Julien Cristau wrote: > >> I'd rather not hijack the DNS entry, no. Can't you get your scripts > >> (and ftp-master's) updated to use a different host name? > > > > Yes, that's probably what we'll do. > > > So what's your opinion about this? Should we wait or move to another > debian.net address? > > Changing the domain is a solution. We'll have to get the DSA to update a few of their scripts but other than that it should be fairly painless. I can't however think of a good alternate name, DDTP has been around for a long time. Maybe something as simple as ddtp2? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Error messages from ftpmaster script wrt DDTP stuff
The dns is broken and we're having difficulty updating it... Martijn On 28 May 2016 12:22, "Christian PERRIER" wrote: > It's now about a week that debian-l10n-devel receives such messages > twice a day: > > > Arf, Arf, Arf, missing the timestamp 201605182232 directory, not > updating i18n, arf, arf, arf > > > I suspect there is something broken somewhere. > > A few days ago (small thread in debian-i18n), it has been mentioned > that ddtp.debian.net has been moved and its IP address changed. I > suspect this might be related (in case some automated data exchange > through SSH is involvedsomething I sadly don't know very well). > > > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] [DDTSS] missing information about previous translation with Iceweasel and https
I just pulled on ddtp.debian.net, so it should be fixed now. Sorry for the delay. Martijn On 25 January 2016 at 16:42, Thomas Vincent wrote: > Hello Martin, > > Le 25/01/2016 10:39, Martin Eberhard Schauer a écrit : > >> A "git pull" might help..:-) > >> > >> However, I have to admit that I'm not sure I can do it. > >> > >> The DDTP machine is hosted on a non debian.org machine (there were > >> reasons for that, the main being that we failed to move the service on > >> ddtp.debian.org and that, in the meantime, manpower decreased > >> dramatically in debian-l10n-devel). > >> > >> IIRC, Martijn is the one who can do the needed move. > > To remove the empty editor field is the wrong approach. The information > > is not messing, it is somewhere else. The Domain is not > > http://ddtp.debian.net/. It is http://ddtp.kleptog.org/. > > The fix I proposed does not remove anything, it merely changes the > iframe url to make it work with http and https. > > Or did I misunderstand your message? > > Thomas > > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Access to ddtp.debian.net
On 22 August 2015 at 15:09, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > On 22/08/15 13:30, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Ok, that means modifying this commit: > > > https://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmgit/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=debian-l10n/ddtp.git;a=commit;h=ffd41dc00a0d3e10cbb0d455a4d3ca0236fb64a3 > > Correct, but looking into the scripts, it seems this was changed an hour > ago, so my understanding is that you apply that locally? > > Yes, I changed that yesterday. > FTP Masters were convinced that if we remove stable files everything > will work, if won't they will take a look at their side because then > it's a bug. So the first step is to stop sending the stable files. > > Just to be clear, "check fails locally", what check are you talking > about? > > The one our copy of the ddtp_i18n_check.sh dies with: Wrong directory name: ./Translation-files_to-check/dists/jessie That's because the tarball from the ftp-masters has a jessie directory and the check fails because we don't include it in our output. We could hack our script to ignore this error, but I'm pretty sure they'll just fail the same way. OK, so my understanding is that you already did that, but because > the script only runs once a day (according to ddtp crontab) we will > have to wait 24h. > > Is DDTP tasks still taking more than 12 hours, or can we increase > the frequency to at least twice a day? > > It takes about 6 hours. We could run it more often, it's just that the machine becomes somewhat unresponsive (the VM only has 1GB). However, to just test this bit you don't need to run everything, just run ./file2Translation.sh from the DDTP home directory. That doesn't take too long or use much memory. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Access to ddtp.debian.net
Ok, that means modifying this commit: https://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmgit/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=debian-l10n/ddtp.git;a=commit;h=ffd41dc00a0d3e10cbb0d455a4d3ca0236fb64a3 You have access to that repository surely? Incidently, I added that we send the stable updates, because otherwise the ddtp-dinstall check fails locally. The ftp-masters send us Translation file including those for stable, so unless we send stable translations back it won't pass the tests. I noted this originally in: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-l10n-devel/2015-May/003545.html I can revert that part of the patch locally. That will change the error message... Have a nice day, On 22 August 2015 at 11:55, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Removing Andreas from cc: > > On 21/08/15 01:43, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > > On 20/08/15 22:53, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > [...] > >> Basically, they do two checks on the files we send. In one > >> check we must include the directory "stretch" and in the > >> other check we must not include the directory "stretch", we > >> cannot win. > > > > Thanks for the info, I will sync up with them again and try to > > get this sorted out. > > - From what I understood we are generating files for the stable > suite so we need to disable that, I can't do this because I > don't have a password and the files are owned by ddtp (and I'm > not in the group), and I don't have access to the user either. > > > We have a solution for stable but that needs to be aligned with > point releases due to signatures, I will push for that once we > fix the current daily dinstalls. > > Can you either fix that or give me the necessary accesses for > ddtp so I can push some patches? > > Kind regards, > - -- > Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV2EcoAAoJEMa4WYSFUi4t+hsP+QFp91UEkczR5V6BPcxpgEBY > 1jicWABWBpMmtEgBbvXx4aggthZW/ijM5l+qicfpG1ljrAiLD6TlCMXQMDP2nTc6 > VdRX70Yi2qk59wfVxe7R1R6r/OCCpmyZVFDBlKDcBFpBfItxvZcoWiaoAlkkYwaX > kCye3Oxvxw8EIQPxfEU/CFOEJQLbFyApEhl7AMRVidSRBZYV+kR8XmLJBu0PvG58 > r2sAkGcdsHwATfg1uaurKyXFFbFxPKjVDfmndGtIS5b50xWrp0ekEUcDo6jWj5iX > 8xrG5hBThtjVrEFJeI91MS7tRys6fJMH9eZWxF1dvFm0ffJyzKvIjDGhidnb0BzJ > yv8ErpFRNYcH3Kfc8UEMfgJjMm8UvXIEpk1YwFkru7MrjuOOuSUi2NdoKTUvS0iQ > drKU7f0wArLEIamUG1AhNAqkIslOUpVLk+w12hDqi07xNn0I0ZfRfnitk76gZRWs > gt/2qW/Qj/8Avy/cBf05eLZoif+UVU5i1TPVDFwXq2Ekka0LCFyKV2znzB7mumgg > kqTbaEWhFsQU+S9XOQSEuhGcHLUqx5gKJIDO1roHMq/1kAm74SS0JODJRsHrCgqK > 8DMFSWUX8HYz1gY/AsrSb4DXOT5Pu7IOwezmSUJDRNTal3ga9IIeXH48W+WqbqBr > oNwwXbRrUaSaYO0BIsxF > =HO/D > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Access to ddtp.debian.net
DDTP.d.n is a virtual host. If you send me your public key I can give you access. I researched why they aren't accepting our files and I'm pretty sure the problem is on their side, see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785092#30 Basically, they do two checks on the files we send. In one check we must include the directory "stretch" and in the other check we must not include the directory "stretch", we cannot win. But you are welcome to try. ddtp.d.o was a host that was setup to replace the old ddtp. Unfortunately nobody had access to configure the machine so it was never properly setup and was later deleted without notice. Have a nice day, On 20 August 2015 at 15:00, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Actually, Andreas might be able to help me. CC:ing tille@d.o > > On 20/08/15 14:59, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > > On 20/08/15 14:57, Christian Perrier wrote: > >> Le 20/08/2015 14:22, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) a écrit : > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>> Hash: SHA512 > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I spoke with FTP Masters about Translation files and we need to > >>> do some adjustments on our side. How can I get shell access to > >>> ddtp? > > > > > >> isn't that ddtp.d.o now (so a DSA machine, which you indeed should have > access to...)? > > > > Not that I know of. ddtp.d.o doesn't even resolve. > > > > i18n.d.o and l10n.d.o are on tye and I have access. > > > > I do need to do some cleanup on l10n.d.n and i18n.d.n. > > > > > > But the current IP is part of GPLHost, if my memory > > serves me well, this was a temporary setup prior to > > convert to ddtp.d.o (which we need to do). > > > > > > Kind regards, > > - -- > Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV1c9bAAoJEMa4WYSFUi4t2MEP/33HIJ4Lebff7cuu+XJ3k/Xi > 7GEvm+C9jIzfpZ3DeIkHLKhcutxnHnv199McAZL3Z4r6Za92rQFb18qtNXlZqMhK > QPgi6d9vRwa5sLyALDmr6obRRMWoPnscJxYmwrP6dg6Bzt+4tKheUFEWMjnWfmQW > 0pJ2yrg0W+ypAZNrrtOaPfjicENNhcadYRdPPqNq3wampBnF5sRRptNGPI2hMzXj > zf6lwPeY3tXcnXa+3ig1Sepg58Nk36iVMTYAKq0/0N6LGv9eEl8nTp15iQzdAmXu > 19bAZtt7ZCuyZkRh1RkBSdBYIOM3fVNLN22DSjvOaKm7TRs+T/Y/I/XQSxgdlROl > IJ0i5JPN/eX8lLzX8MxV4RcpKzwhbSdzPtJppvg6PvDPVSTlIQnfak1Xpp8p9wmP > s4H7L0XdVVhAdoGGWF5czl6XzWb1/DQKmesPDkQweBbONFhVaBjwhOKEbdto61G5 > lUfivXZDe5AlUaghrS5sx7R+UAEznAOOuBENlBovvKLIvB/5RBsZG79dBFfRoPq5 > Rm7fgzs33Prns+KQLWeldBX65H+smahNkHI0BUxGmrvW5Pd4FR0bkgL/L2kd60j/ > L2vY12rheyucxT8A0xW5hDxO3/6jivxRFkctaYUUyR4ZC8ueTbOIAc2aebaFJj9E > Z3N9U4ENRaBC9ulAeBnr > =cxk3 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Most Translation-??. bz2 files from sid not updated since April 25th
On 9 June 2015 at 05:47, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Daniele Forsi (dfo...@gmail.com): > > Hello, > > > > every now and the I downloaded Translation-it.bz2 from > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/i18n/ but it seems that only > > Translation-ml.bz2 > > Translation-en.bz2 > > were updated today while other languages have a date of April 25th. > > > > There were 26165 descriptions translated to Italian on April 25th and > > there are 26206 today according to > > http://ddtp.debian.net/stats/stats-sid.html so there are new > > translations somewhere that didn't find their way to the FTP site? > > > Sadly, known problem, we have a daily mail about that and a bug report > is opened against ftp.debian.org about this:-( > > The (eternal) problem is that the failure message is not informative > at all and does not give a clue about how to fix the problem. > Well, in my response to the bug report I thought I explained what the problem was and even included a patch to fix it. Only the ftp-masters can actually apply it though... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785092#30 Or is the email unclear somehow? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP post release work
Ah, it's come back to me now. The ddtp_i18n_check script needs to be updated: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/dak/raw/c3b0c290fd49f8d82f2671aa57b034d97ad6cb4c/scripts/debian/ddtp-i18n-check.sh Something similar to this patch: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/dak/commit/278c336540a48829f0d0b6ae81968640f40aab21 Although I see that this time stable is still in the list. Does this mean that we'll be able to make updates to stable now? Have a nice day, On 3 May 2015 at 19:22, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Yes, this happened last time there was a release. IIRC it wasn't quite > this easy, but adding stretch to the list of suites is the easy. > > IIRC there is also a script on the server side that checks the directory > names and it will barf on "stretch" and only the FTP masters can fix that. > But we'll cross that bridge when we get there.. > > For now I've added stretch to the script so tomorrow we should get a > different error. > > Have a nice day, > > On 29 April 2015 at 17:50, Martin Eberhard Schauer < > martin.e.scha...@gmx.de> wrote: > >> > Debian FTP Masters wrote: >> > Arf, Arf, Arf, bad guys, wrong files, arf, arf, arf >> >> I'm not sure, but I feel something similar has popped up after >> the Wheezy release, and the DDTP host transition. >> >> >> The problem are the files at (0) containing the package description >> translations, e.g. Translation-de.bz2, the use of release code names >> and the lack of documentation. >> >> At the FTP site (1) we see (ordered by date) the latest files when >> Jessie was Testing, the English version from Sunday, and another >> file. >> >> … >> [ ] Translation-tr.bz2 25-Apr-2015 05:39 530 >> [ ] Translation-en.bz2 26-Apr-2015 22:16 4.4M >> [ ] Translation-ml.bz2 29-Apr-2015 10:16 14 >> >> Stretch and Testing (2) only have information on the English version: >> >> [ ] Translation-en.bz2 29-Apr-2015 10:16 4.5M >> [DIR] Translation-en.diff/ 29-Apr-2015 05:14 >> >> The DDTP host's scripts/routines still provides current data for >> Jessie (3). I'm not sure whether in this context Jessie means >> Jessie or Testing. >> >> >> FTP masters are looking for »"Stretch" files« and - by now - >> don't find them. They need a "stretch" directory. If for the >> DDTP logic Jessie is just another word for Testing, a symlink >> should solve the problem. >> >> >> 0: http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists//main/i18n/ >> 1: http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ >> 2: http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/stretch/main/i18n/ >> http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/testing/main/i18n/ >> 3: http://ddtp.kleptog.org/debian/dists >> > > > > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP post release work
Yes, this happened last time there was a release. IIRC it wasn't quite this easy, but adding stretch to the list of suites is the easy. IIRC there is also a script on the server side that checks the directory names and it will barf on "stretch" and only the FTP masters can fix that. But we'll cross that bridge when we get there.. For now I've added stretch to the script so tomorrow we should get a different error. Have a nice day, On 29 April 2015 at 17:50, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > > Debian FTP Masters wrote: > > Arf, Arf, Arf, bad guys, wrong files, arf, arf, arf > > I'm not sure, but I feel something similar has popped up after > the Wheezy release, and the DDTP host transition. > > > The problem are the files at (0) containing the package description > translations, e.g. Translation-de.bz2, the use of release code names > and the lack of documentation. > > At the FTP site (1) we see (ordered by date) the latest files when > Jessie was Testing, the English version from Sunday, and another > file. > > … > [ ] Translation-tr.bz2 25-Apr-2015 05:39 530 > [ ] Translation-en.bz2 26-Apr-2015 22:16 4.4M > [ ] Translation-ml.bz2 29-Apr-2015 10:16 14 > > Stretch and Testing (2) only have information on the English version: > > [ ] Translation-en.bz2 29-Apr-2015 10:16 4.5M > [DIR] Translation-en.diff/ 29-Apr-2015 05:14 > > The DDTP host's scripts/routines still provides current data for > Jessie (3). I'm not sure whether in this context Jessie means > Jessie or Testing. > > > FTP masters are looking for »"Stretch" files« and - by now - > don't find them. They need a "stretch" directory. If for the > DDTP logic Jessie is just another word for Testing, a symlink > should solve the problem. > > > 0: http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists//main/i18n/ > 1: http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ > 2: http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/stretch/main/i18n/ > http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/testing/main/i18n/ > 3: http://ddtp.kleptog.org/debian/dists > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x in DDTP/DDTSS
Umm, I don't see why not. The current lists of archs is: amd64 armel i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc The new hardware is I think fast enough to handle it... I'll look into it. Have a nice day, On 30 December 2014 at 03:21, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > Hi, > > In DDTP/DDTSS armhf, arm64, ppc64el, and s390x packages are not found, > such as linux-image-armmp, linux-image-arm64, > linux-image-3.16.0-4-powerpc64le, and linux-image-3.16.0-4-s390x. > > Is it possible for their inclusion? > > Thanks, > -- > YOSHINO Yoshihito > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] ddtp.debian.net is not responding
The machine got a kick and everything is back now. It's not clear what the cause was though. Have a nice day, On 6 July 2014 21:16, Joe Dalton wrote: > no contact to http://ddtp.debian.net/ all day > > bye > Joe > Danish > > > > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Don't you kids take anything. I'm watching you. I've got eye implants in the back of my head.
Ok, I can ping the machine but not login? Weird. Mvg, On 6 July 2014 15:52, Debian FTP Masters wrote: > Arf, Arf, Arf, bad guys, wrong files, arf, arf, arf > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Definitely stopping churro
As long as the database dumps and the source ddtp dir are copied I'm
cool.
Thanks,
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 08:10:53AM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> All Debian i18n servicxes have been moved out of the good old "churro"
> machine. As of now, this server therefore doesn't host any Debian
> service anymore.
>
> I grabbed a last copy of the homes on the servern which I keep aside
> until we find a solution for them to be stored somewhere (the only
> really improtant stuff there seem to be old dumps of the DDTP
> database).
>
> So, I think we should now stop the machine...which I indeed can do
> remotely ("shutdown -h now")...and then the physical machine can be
> decommissioned and probably enjoy her happy retirement on some spanish
> beaches...;-)
>
> I will reset all users' accounts and delete data in homes before doing this.
>
> If you have objections to this, please speak now.
>
> To Nicolas (who is IIRC the last person with physical access to the
> server): I'll let you know when the machine can be hokked out.
>
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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Request: adding translation updates for package descriptions Wheezy
On 30 March 2014 00:25, Joe Dalton wrote: > do you mean directories or files? > > does an update create new directories in the tarball? I would expect just > updated files. > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian7.4/main/i18n/ > has 03-May-2013 on most of the files, but not all. > > and I would expect all the files here to be part of the next 7.5 (without > knowing anything about how things are organized). > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/ > > Can I see that tarball somewhere? > > Ok, I remembered incorrectly, it's not a tarball, there's a directory that gets rsynced over ssh. You can see the directory here: http://ddtp.debian.net/debian/ Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Request: adding translation updates for package descriptions Wheezy
On 29 March 2014 16:02, Joe Dalton wrote: > Hi Martijn, never received an answer for this. I don't think anyone has > any recollection about this subject. Perhaps somebody on the two lists > "Debian Development" ,"Debian > sproglisten" can help out? > > If i take a look on > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian7.4/main/i18n/ it looks like > some languages does receive updates. Perhaps we could make a test and > update e.g. Danish? > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/ > > I don't really have any ideas how to get this working. But what makes you think that some languages receive updates? The timestamps? I have no idea how that could have happened. We can't really test update. We build a tarball and dak downloads it. If there are any directories it doesn't expect the whole tarball is rejected. Any action has to come from the ftpmaster side. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS error for German
On 29 March 2014 07:43, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On 28 March 2014 23:59, Martin Eberhard Schauer > wrote:Hmm, looks like there's something odd going on > in the processing of > reviewed translations. I'll see if I can dig something up. The logs are > certainly full of warnings about something > And indeed, yet another bug squashed. Has been fixed and pushed. The problem is that there was some odd data in the database and the failure path didn't clean up the resources properly. Can you check it works now? As for how the data got that way is a seperate question. But at least it should be more robust now. BTW, language sk had the same issue apparently. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS error for German
On 28 March 2014 23:59, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > > > Is this a known error? How can it be prevented or who can fix it? > > I shall note that the translation gets accepted although the error > > message appears. > > I'm sorry to say that this is unknown behavior specific to the German > translations as you are the first who reports the issue. > > The problem lasts at least since 24. Feb 12:31, when I copied the error > message into a file. > > Perhaps "gets accepted" is not entirely correct. Whenever a new translation > is submitted or accepted ( (1) being the latest), one gets the error > message. > Changing the address to (2) shows the translated/reviewed description under > "Reviewed by you". However, the "submit" code is not executed entirely. The > "cleanup" for reviewed translations is not executed. E.g. (3) has two > reviews, > and more than one week has passed. But it has not been propagated to the > database. > > Hmm, looks like there's something odd going on in the processing of reviewed translations. I'll see if I can dig something up. The logs are certainly full of warnings about something Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Getting rid of churro?
On 9 February 2014 20:16, Joe Dalton wrote: > new translations in Danish is now sent to my Jessie installation. Great > news. Thanks. > > and it seems all the important languages are updated (strange some files > isn't updated). > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ > > Is it possible to make an update in Wheezy? > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/ > hasn't been updated since 2013-05 > > In theory yes, however the ftpmasters decided (somewhere) that stable releases shouldn't get translation updates. I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning, but there it is. As a practical issue fixing that would be changing one line in dak, and telling ddtp.d.n to generate the necessary files. But it's more of a policy thing really. Or at least, that's my recollection of it. Trying to find evidence in git repos drew a blank though; references to stable are carefully commented out everywhere right from the start. Evidently the choice was made prior to the first commit of the automatic update code (ddtp-dinstall). I would argue that when Debian does a point release with stable-updates, that translations should be considered part of that. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Getting rid of churro?
On 31 January 2014 07:36, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Andreas Tille (ti...@debian.org): > > > > Hmm, sounds like an idea. I'm going to be off the air for at least the > next > > > week so if someone wants to take a shot at it in the meantime, go > ahead. > > > > What exactly needs to be discussed with whom? I'll be on Debian Med > sprint > > this weekend - so this is a Debian dedicated weekend anyway ... > > Some ftpmasters scripts (dak?) connect to the ddtp.debian.net machine > through > SSH in order to grab the package description translation files. > > Since Martijn moved the service to the new machine, the SSH host key > changed and therefore, this SSH connection fails. At least this is my > understanding of the problem. > > I'm back now and I'm not getting the annoying emails any more and and the logs on ddtp.d.n are showing successful public-key authentications, so I think the problem is fixed. The real check is if we can find something recently translated in the Translations files on ftp.d.o. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Getting rid of churro?
On 30 January 2014 06:52, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): > > > > Is the DNS fix on its way or is it lost in somebody's mailbox? > > > > > > > > Everything is done now, except for the rsync from the ftpmasters. > > Maybe try through the Debian System Admins way (see on > wiki.debian.org, the DSA team has instructions about how to ask for > changes on DSA-administered machines). Such things are not clear about > who is responsible for them: here, either the FTPmaster team or the > DSA team. > > Hmm, sounds like an idea. I'm going to be off the air for at least the next week so if someone wants to take a shot at it in the meantime, go ahead. > As a running machine it's not necessary anymore. However, as a historical > > system it's got a lot history. There are for example archives of the > > translation database going back months, maybe years. I think it would be > > worth making a copy of all the data on the disk. > > It's probably best to copy them on the new machine instead of having > $someone keep them privately > > The new machine doesn't have the disk space for that. Churro has like 150GB of storage (no idea what it all is). The new machine is 20GB total. That could probably be expanded but I haven't looked into that yet. But, for sure, it's annoying to see that it's about 3 weeks now that > nothing moves in that regard and we get "arf arf" mails 4 times a day. > > Very annoying indeed... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Getting rid of churro?
On 28 January 2014 18:53, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): > > Hoi, > > > > Tomorrow I'm going to be doing my best to get the DDTP off Churro onto > the > > new VM provided by Andreas Tille & Thomas Goirand at gplhost.com. > > Unless I'm mistaken, churro now only exists to redirect > ddtp.debian.net to the new machine, am I right? > > Is the DNS fix on its way or is it lost in somebody's mailbox? > > Everything is done now, except for the rsync from the ftpmasters. > Once done, I guess we could definitely get rid of churro, right again? > > As a running machine it's not necessary anymore. However, as a historical system it's got a lot history. There are for example archives of the translation database going back months, maybe years. I think it would be worth making a copy of all the data on the disk. As for the dak-sync, I've been considering setting up a separate SSH server on a separate port and copying the host key for that server. Then use a firewall rule to redirect the connection. It's lame, but it'd work. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 18 January 2014 17:25, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On 18 January 2014 13:24, Christian PERRIER wrote: > >> Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): >> >> > Is it possible to file bugs against the ftp-master for this kind of >> thing? >> >> Bug against ftp.debian.org, I'd guess. I'd suggest severity: important. >> >> > Done, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735916 > > > Okay, that seems to have had no effect whatsoever. Is the bug unclear? Does it need some OOB signalling to trigger the right people? Is there some other way to draw attention to this? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 18 January 2014 13:24, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): > > > Is it possible to file bugs against the ftp-master for this kind of > thing? > > Bug against ftp.debian.org, I'd guess. I'd suggest severity: important. > > Done, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735916 -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 18 January 2014 00:20, Simon Paillard wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:08:05PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > On 17 January 2014 18:50, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > Yeah. I had some time and decided to see if I could find anything more. > So > > I pulled the git repo from the ftp-master website: git clone > > https://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git/ > [..] > > But i18n.debian.net doesn't exist anymore?!?!? When did this happen? > And is > > it possible to register it again as a CNAME to ddtp.debian.net? > > My bad, updating a dns entry actually erases all previous personnal > debian.net > entries, and we updated ddtp.d.n 10 days ago. > > I've added back "i18n IN CNAME ddtp", should be live soon. > Thanks for that. Yes, the page about DNS entries does mention it does that, but it is counterintuitive. Anyway, it seems to have helped, in the auth.log I now get a connection: Jan 18 07:52:14 ddtp sshd[5496]: Connection closed by 138.16.160.12 [preauth] I'm pretty sure it's a host key issue, because it's a different machine. Now we need to find an ftp-master to send the host key to and have them accept it. Or copy the old host keys but that feels wrong somehow. The new hostkey is 42:ed:ae:48:6b:f1:97:ae:c3:b4:b0:69:83:cd:56:2e. Is it possible to file bugs against the ftp-master for this kind of thing? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 17 January 2014 18:50, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > 138.16.160.12 is franck.debian.org. > > > > However, since then there has been nothing. The new machine is not > logging > > any ssh attempts. This means the files are not being rsynced, hence the > > error message. > > > > Some kind of firewall or something? > > > And, since then, we have these "arf arf" messages, every 6 > hours at H+52 > > Yeah. I had some time and decided to see if I could find anything more. So I pulled the git repo from the ftp-master website: git clone https://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git/ Looking for the update stuff I found in config/debian/dinstall.functions from command: rsync -aq --delete --delete-after ddtp-sync:/does/not/matter . || true What it ddtp-sync? Well, grepping in the rest of the tree reveals: config/homedir/ssh/ftpmaster-config: Host ddtp-sync Hostname i18n.debian.net User ddtp-dak But i18n.debian.net doesn't exist anymore?!?!? When did this happen? And is it possible to register it again as a CNAME to ddtp.debian.net? That's at least one step further... Thanks in advance, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 11 January 2014 14:52, Debian FTP Masters < ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org> wrote: > Arf, Arf, Arf, missing the timestamp 201401060308 directory, not updating > i18n, arf, arf, arf > Well, this corresponds to about the time dak stopped talking to churro. Last login: Jan 7 08:52:26 churro sshd[8494]: Accepted publickey for ddtp-dak from 138.16.160.12 port 53212 ssh2 Jan 7 08:52:26 churro sshd[8494]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user ddtp-dak by (uid=0) Jan 7 08:52:49 churro sshd[8494]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user ddtp-dak 138.16.160.12 is franck.debian.org. However, since then there has been nothing. The new machine is not logging any ssh attempts. This means the files are not being rsynced, hence the error message. Some kind of firewall or something? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP host transition - Translation-xx files
On 8 January 2014 16:49, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > > Arf, Arf, Arf, bad guys, wrong files, arf, arf, arf > > Dear FTP Masters, > > on Monday the DDTP infrastructure (temporarily) moved from (1) to (2). Try > looking for the Translation-xx files at (3). There you'll find current > files. > > 1: http://ddtp.debian.net > The DNS is fixed now so the original hostname works, just use ddtp.debian.net. Dak (IIRC) uses rsync to fetch the Translation files and it will now be trying to connect and failing because the host key has changed. The new host key will need to be added to the known_hosts file. That should make everything work. Thanks in advance, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Don't you kids … Missing directory?
Nice catch, fixed! Have a nice day, On 7 January 2014 18:08, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > > Debian FTP Masters wrote: > > Arf, Arf, Arf, bad guys, wrong files, arf, arf, arf > > There is no /debian directory at http://ddtp.kleptog.org/debian/: > > Not Found > > The requested URL /debian/ was not found on this server. > Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) Server at ddtp.kleptog.org Port 80 > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP moving day (6 January)
On 5 January 2014 23:16, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Hoi, > > Tomorrow I'm going to be doing my best to get the DDTP off Churro onto the > new VM provided by Andreas Tille & Thomas Goirand at gplhost.com. > Okay everyone, it's done. Except the DNS isn't fixed because apparently not every DD can do that. Right now there's a redirect from the churro to a temporary domain (ddtp.kleptog.org) until the issue is resolved. Everything should work the same since it's the same code. I'm not expecting any issues but if there are any let me know. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP moving day (6 January)
Ok everyone. The switchover will happen in an hour, please save your work. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP moving day (6 January)
On 6 January 2014 08:58, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Martijn, > > thanks for your work on this - just let me know if I could be of any help. > > Fixing the DNS when the time comes would be helpful. That is, making ddtp.debian.net point to the new machine, and then reactivating the old request to get the reverse DNS matching. But not before everything is ready, ok :) -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP moving day (6 January)
Hoi, Tomorrow I'm going to be doing my best to get the DDTP off Churro onto the new VM provided by Andreas Tille & Thomas Goirand at gplhost.com. This will mean there at some point it will be down for a little while as the data is transferred from one machine to the other. If all goes well this shouldn't be too long but if all else fails churro will still be there. Note that since I can't fix the DNS records for ddtp.d.n the switch will actually be visible as churro will simply redirect people to a domain I do control, probably ddtp.kleptog.org, up until the point that the DNS is fixed. I'll setup some mail forwarding as well, though I haven't checked whether anyone is still using it. Mostly it's just bouncing spam. Also the ftpmaster will need to be notified of the switch, but that should probably happen after the DNS is fixed. In any case, with any luck soon we will be off churro (which I still suspect has dodgy memory). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Proposal: DDTP moving day (6 January)
On 2 January 2014 09:22, Christian PERRIER wrote: > I think you can go ahead as you want, Martijn. Thanks *a lot* for > taking care of this while we all others failed doing anything since > the 2012 sprint:-( > I might just suggest you send a notice to debian-i18n@l.d.o > beforehand, of course, so that nobody is surprised. > > Good idea. > It could event warrant a notice to > debian-infrastructure-announce@l.d.o (need probably some ack by DSA). > > Not sure how to do that, but I'll look into it. > By "moving to a new VM", I guess you mean "moving to ddtp.debian.org", > right? > > Umm, no. This is a VM setup by Andreas Tille and Thomas Goirand at gplhost.com. The machine ddtp.d.o vanished, no idea what happened to it. On this new machine I have the access required to actually make it function. This new machine is quite a bit faster, though it is lighter on the disk space front. I'm also configuring it with puppet so that if anyone ever gets the urge they can duplicate the entire setup easily. The basic system is already up, but I think I should setup some munin/nagios before considering it completely done. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] Proposal: DDTP moving day (6 January)
Hoi everyone, As many of you will know, moving the DDTP off churro onto a new VM has been on the cards for a while. I was planning it last year and then life got in the way. Anyway, I now have some time and was planning on doing some work to move the system on the 6th of January (next monday). I'm posting here to check I'm not treading on anyone's toes. Two things I need help with: - Someone to update the domain (ddtp.debian.net) to point to the new server. Not critical, a redirect to a temporary domain would work in the mean time. - Getting the ftpmasters to update the known_hosts file to accept the new server host key. I *could* copy the host keys from churro as well but I suspect the ftpmasters would take a pretty dim view of that. Not really critical either but after the DNS update and before the ftpmasters update there will be a period where translations updates won't occur. Let me know if there are any objections. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Churro partly out of service
I logged in to look at the errors, it turns out the entire /srv partition was missing. I mounted that and it seems to have helped... Have a nice day, On 1 November 2013 20:38, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > > Debian FTP Masters wrote: > > Arf, Arf, Arf, bad guys, wrong files, arf, arf, arf > > ddtp.debian.net is partly out of service again. There seems to have been > an > interrupt in the power supply about 06:00 in the morning (1). > > Symptoms: > - The DDTSS gives an "Internal Server Error" (2) (>= 13:00) > - The translation statistics are overdue (3). > - ddtp.debian.net/debian is not accessible. > > > 1: http://ddtp.debian.net/munin/ > 2: > http://ddtp.debian.net/ddtss/**index.cgi<http://ddtp.debian.net/ddtss/index.cgi> > 3: http://ddtp.debian.net/stats/ > > __**_ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.**alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.**org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** > debian-l10n-devel<http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel> > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
On 25 September 2013 22:06, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>
> > Right now I'm working on puppetising the whole setup and I'm going to try
> > to include some documentation in there. But the biggest issue here is
> that
> > when there is a new release the name of 'testing' changes, and that
> > requires updating half a dozen scripts. There really needs to be a better
> > way to do that. Is there a supported automatable way to determine what
> > testing currently is, so that scripts can detect when it happens and warn
> > about it?
>
> Look at any (full) mirrors dists/ where the {testing,stable,...}
> symlinks point to?
>
>
That seems reasonable, except I don't see how you can reliably check for
symlinks on a mirror via HTTP/FTP. Sure, as a human looking it seems fairly
clear, but it's not something I'd feel comfortable automating.
lftp seems to do a reasonable job with ftp, so parsing the output of "cls"
on ftp.debian.org seems doable (look for an @ symbol), but somewhat obtuse.
I was hoping for a file that said "stable wheezy".
Have a nice day,
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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] A new DDTP server / DDTP is puppetised
On 19 September 2013 15:47, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > 3. DNS entry change to new IP address (owner of domain needs to do this). > > Does anybody know who the admin is for ddtp.debian,net? It's not listed at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains though that page shows how any DD can lookup the information. That person needs to be available to do the switch (though we could run from an alternative domain for a while if necessary). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] A new DDTP server / DDTP is puppetised
On 19 September 2013 18:47, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): > > > (For everybody who thinks this repo should be on alioth under the > > debian-l10n project, I agree. I just couldn't work out how to make a new > > repo on alioth and github was three clicks.) > > From my experience, you just need to "clone --bare" your local git > repo copy and then scp the whole thing to /git/debian-l10n on alioth. > > That actually sounded reasonable, so I tried it, and it worked. So http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-l10n/ddtp-puppet.git;a=summary Is the new repo. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] A new DDTP server / DDTP is puppetised
Hi Debian Translators, The DDTP has been limping along for a many years on churro and given the problems in the last few months it may be time to put churro to sleep. In the last few weeks Andreas Tille and Thomas Goirand have graciously arranged for a virtual server at gplhost. I have spent a few hours writing a puppet manifest to configure the machine. The manifest can be found here: https://github.com/kleptog/DDTP-puppet And the result can be seen at the temporary url http://ddtp.kleptog.org/ So now two birds are killed with one stone: with this manifest, anyone can configure a new DDTP server in about 20 minutes. And we have a new server ready to take over from churro. (For everybody who thinks this repo should be on alioth under the debian-l10n project, I agree. I just couldn't work out how to make a new repo on alioth and github was three clicks.) So, what is needed to make the transition complete: 1. Agreement from everyone that this is the way to go (hence this email). 2. Support from the ftpmasters to handle the switchover to the new server. We can copy a lot of keys, but SSH is still going to complain when we change the DNS. 3. DNS entry change to new IP address (owner of domain needs to do this). 4. A switchover moment to copy the database and statistics (my job). 5. The new server needs a valid reverse DNS so it can send/receive mail (being worked on). 6. Probably some more user accounts, currently only Andreas & I have access, and perhaps not even Andreas because port 443 is now the webserver. Now, in theory this manifest could also be used on the (no longer available) ddtp.debian.org. However, we are not yet ready for this. It caused problems on their database server last time and the fixes for that vanished when the server vanished. So we will have to go without any Debian infrastructure until the DB issues are fixed (probably when we go to DDTP2). Now, barring objections and/or other problems I was thinking of aiming for a switchover in the second week of October. (For those curious about performance: despite the new VM having less memory than churro, the VM manages to do the daily update in just under 3 hours, while churro takes 17). Comments? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
On 14 September 2013 08:54, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): > > Success, the output files have been updated! > > > So, everything is fine now, thanks a lot. > > What would be great now would be *documenting* the various fixes that > have been done, either on DDTP side, or on ftpmasters side. > > Indeed. I've just pushed a fix for the primary bug. So in the future it will no longer break immediately after a release, but only after the ftpmasters change which files they accept. The fact that the ftpmaster check scripts were fixed on sunday is the bit still confusing me. Somehow the patch got through, but how? That's what we were waiting on. Right now I'm working on puppetising the whole setup and I'm going to try to include some documentation in there. But the biggest issue here is that when there is a new release the name of 'testing' changes, and that requires updating half a dozen scripts. There really needs to be a better way to do that. Is there a supported automatable way to determine what testing currently is, so that scripts can detect when it happens and warn about it? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
Okay, some last minute fixing last night seems to have had its effect. At least dak has not sent its scheduled email. These files are new: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ But I can't tell if they have all the latest translations. Can some translator who has made some recent changes check to see if they are up to date? Thanks in advance, On 12 September 2013 21:07, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Success, the output files have been updated! > > http://ddtp.debian.net/debian/ > > The next pull by dak should get further, fingers crossed... > > > On 11 September 2013 23:28, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > >> Ok, getting further: the problem was with this bit of shell: >> >> === >> for distribution in $DISTS squeeze md5sum timestamp timestamp.gpg >> do >> rm -f $distribution >> wget -q -m -nd http://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/$distribution|| \ >> echo "failed to wget >> http://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/$distribution"; >> done >> md5sum --check --quiet md5sum >> === >> >> If the list of files downloaded doesn't *exactly* match the list in the >> md5sum file it fails. Since jessie appeared this obviously failed. I've >> rejigged the code to not have this problem anymore and set it running. I'll >> check in the morning to see how it progressed. >> >> >> Have a nice day, >> -- >> Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ >> > > > > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
Success, the output files have been updated! http://ddtp.debian.net/debian/ The next pull by dak should get further, fingers crossed... On 11 September 2013 23:28, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Ok, getting further: the problem was with this bit of shell: > > === > for distribution in $DISTS squeeze md5sum timestamp timestamp.gpg > do > rm -f $distribution > wget -q -m -nd http://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/$distribution || > \ > echo "failed to wget > http://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/$distribution"; > done > md5sum --check --quiet md5sum > === > > If the list of files downloaded doesn't *exactly* match the list in the > md5sum file it fails. Since jessie appeared this obviously failed. I've > rejigged the code to not have this problem anymore and set it running. I'll > check in the morning to see how it progressed. > > > Have a nice day, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
Ok, getting further: the problem was with this bit of shell: === for distribution in $DISTS squeeze md5sum timestamp timestamp.gpg do rm -f $distribution wget -q -m -nd http://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/$distribution || \ echo "failed to wget http://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/$distribution"; done md5sum --check --quiet md5sum === If the list of files downloaded doesn't *exactly* match the list in the md5sum file it fails. Since jessie appeared this obviously failed. I've rejigged the code to not have this problem anymore and set it running. I'll check in the morning to see how it progressed. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
Yes, it looks like it got further. I've just set the ddtp_i18n_check back to wheezy instead of jessie so now it matches the check done by dak. It'll take another 24 hours but hopefully this time it will work... On 10 September 2013 20:56, Joe Dalton wrote: > Jessie is now shown and the stats on the front page has been updated. So > :o) for that part. > bye > Joe > Danish > > > > ---------- > *Fra:* Martijn van Oosterhout > *Til:* Christian Perrier > *Cc:* Debian Internationalization ; Debian > Development > *Sendt:* 22:31 mandag den 9. september 2013 > *Emne:* Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ? > > What we could try is going back to uploading sid+wheezy. That should > > pass the checks though I'm not sure if the ftp masters would approve. > > > Good idea, yes. If, at least, we could get rid of the "arf arf" mails, > that woul dshow some progress and translators would then see at least > something happening. > > > Ok, done. Let's see what happens. > > Have a nice day, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
On 9 September 2013 22:31, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > What we could try is going back to uploading sid+wheezy. That should > >> pass the checks though I'm not sure if the ftp masters would approve. >>> >> >> Good idea, yes. If, at least, we could get rid of the "arf arf" mails, >> that woul dshow some progress and translators would then see at least >> something happening. >> >> > Ok, done. Let's see what happens. > > Made another change: it no longer tries to download files for squeeze (which was hardcoded). That should help it pass the md5 check. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
What we could try is going back to uploading sid+wheezy. That should > pass the checks though I'm not sure if the ftp masters would approve. >> > > Good idea, yes. If, at least, we could get rid of the "arf arf" mails, > that woul dshow some progress and translators would then see at least > something happening. > > Ok, done. Let's see what happens. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS is working well ?
As far as I can see it's dak that needs the update, they don't accept translations for jessie yet. I checked to see if we could at least get sid updated, but the checks are too strict for that. What we could try is going back to uploading sid+wheezy. That should pass the checks though I'm not sure if the ftp masters would approve. Have a nice day, On 9 September 2013 06:59, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Joe Dalton (joedalt...@yahoo.dk): > > And i can confirm that not a single package translation is active in > Jessie. > > > > I think we still are missing someone who can fix the scripts. > > > There is work in progress to move ddtp.d.n out to a new machine > (independently from the move to ddtp.debian.org work...which is still > stalled). > > Maybe during that work, Martijn (who is doing it) will figure out what > is needed to have the dak import working again. > > > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] (forw) Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
FWIW, this issue still needs to be fixed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2013/05/msg00067.html On 29 August 2013 16:44, Christian Perrier wrote: > > >> Perhaps I've missed it. Why did nobody ask the FTP masters about the >> missing >> link until now? >> > > Because I'm apparently the only one who cared enough but was busy at other > stuff since then (and to say the least a little bit tired of seeing that > nobody really pays attention to thisexcept for complaining that it > doesn't work) > > > __**_ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.**alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.**org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** > debian-l10n-devel<http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel> > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] (forw) Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 26 August 2013 09:53, Andreas Tille wrote: > Is there any public record what kind of help is needed? I really would > love to put some (admittedly small) effort into this to finally make DDTP > an official service. IMHO a quite good chance for coming together would > be here: > >https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/08/msg3.html > Looks like a possibility. > IMHO we urgently need to get churro replaced by some virtual machine > that can be maintained by more than one person and Thomas Giorand was > offering such machinges at gplhost.com. Perhaps this might be some > intermediate step before we finally can go to debian.org ... depending > on how long this might last. > > Setting it up on a new machine is not that much work. We (almost) setup ddtp.debian.org in a weekend. As pointed out in my other email, the issue is getting the webserver/mailserver and database configured. The code is not that complicated. If someone is serious about providing a machine I should be able to spare some time to get it setup... Have a nice day, ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] (forw) Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 29 August 2013 17:58, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > > As I remember the last DPL campaign, some candidate said: The project is > big > enough to focus on new tasks when somebody feels bored or tired. So we need > fresh blood if somebody is eaten up by real live or just wants to devote > more > of his time to his wife. Perhaps there is somebody among those still > filling > the DDTP database? > > I'm quite close to starting a thread on i18n and filing a grave bug against > general on the DDTP infrastructure. > > If filing a bug would produce action then I'm all for it. After the sprint last year we were --> <-- this close to having the new machine running. Then a series of misunderstandings, miscommunications and delays caused us to slowly regress to being back to where we started. As a non-DD I don't have the access to be able to move things by myself. I can maintain the DDTP software just fine but there is a close relationship between the software and the host. The webserver needs to be configured and the mail server as well. Thus far no-one has stepped up to handle that part of the system. I have no idea how to get things moving again, but if someone wants to pick it up I'm all for it. Have a nice day, ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS still not up
On 25 May 2013 11:52, Simon Paillard wrote: > > DSA setup machines for us months if not years ago, so the best way is > moving > > the service it's sure. > > Now Wheezy is out, DSA doesn't want to keep machines running squeeze, and > is > reluctant to invest time in upgrading machines that are not used (what is > understandable). > However some work has been invested on that machine during the sprint. > > The machine is almost ready, mostly it needs testing and verification that the config is DSA-compliant. > > So where are we ? > > In your last mail, you mentioned you work on a change that would be > compatible > with DSA expectations regarding apache configuration. > That's right ? > > Do both DSA and you are inline wrt what is acceptable in this ddtp apache > config ? > > Well, hmm. Last I checked my account on the machine had expired and I can't reach the machine at all right now, so no idea what's happening there. Essentially, the next step was to configure the web server and start using it. I figure the machine was 95% ready. However, (AFAIK) only the DSA can update the web server config and I never managed to get any of them to even look at what I suggested. Eventually I gave up trying and here we are... So, are we inline? No. Is the rest of the system DSA-compliant? No idea, the rules are largely unwritten. The first week we managed to fill the disk on the Debian PostgreSQL server, so they're understandably wary. That was fixed, but who knows what else will happen. The only thing I know for sure is that deploying the DDTP-ng (written in Python) is out of the question. It's the old system or nothing. At this point I think the only thing that would help is to get someone from the DSA personally interested in the project and that they help with all the remaining steps to get it working. (My Plan B by the way is at some point install DDTP-ng on churro. This will make many people happier and may convince the DSA that installing that on ddtp.debian.org is the better option.) Have a nice day, Martijn ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP - No Tranlation-XX files in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ ?
Well, according to my notes, the current error means that the ddtp-i18n-check.sh failed. This script is in the dak repository and probably needs the same fix we did to our version, you can see it online here: https://github.com/evgeni/dak/blob/master/scripts/debian/ddtp-i18n-check.sh *Warning* I just picked a random github repo that looked like it had the right content. s/wheezy/jessie/? I'm also attaching a patch I made a long time ago which replaces the errors messages sent to the mailing list with something meaningful. I frankly have no idea where to send such things but maybe someone here knows what to do with it. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ dak.patch Description: Binary data ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP - No Tranlation-XX files in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ ?
Well, the error email has changed and we now longer get errors on the DDTP side. The Translation files seem to have been properly generated. Not sure about the next step. Have a nice day, On 15 May 2013 19:46, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Christian, > > Once we update our side, we need to ask ftp-master to update their > side. Martijn updates seems correct, I'll have a look later tonight > and also write some documentation for future releases, so we all know > what to do. :) > > On 13/05/13 22:05, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > Quoting Beatrice Torracca (beatri...@libero.it): > >> Hello, > >> > >> I noticed that there aren't any files of the traslated package > >> desriptions (eg. Translation-it) in > >> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ > >> > >> but there are in the corresponding directory for sid and stabel. > >> > >> Is it right? No translations for those using Testing? > >> > >> Ciao, > >> beatrice > >> > >> P.S. I might be missing something obvious *g* > > > > We currently have something that's is going wrong with the scripts > > that run on churro, generate what's expected by the ftpmaster machine > > that grabs them 3 times a day. > > > > I tried to have a look at these scripts last weekend and found out > > very obvious places where "jessie" had to be defined but it seems that > > my changes were not enough to make things work. > > > > This magic between churro and the ftpmaster machine is something that > > was setup by Felipe and Nicolas a few years ago and, well, it not > > completely obvious..:-) > > > > As usual, when the magic behing the DDTP is working, everything does > > well, but when something breaks, we're desperately in need of someone > > who can fix it. > > > > Trying again to CC Felipe or Nicolas, in case one of them notices this > > mail > > > > > > > - -- > Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlGTygIACgkQCjAO0JDlykaVAQCgukMvQrcWE+7T1INm/6nE5WA3 > IAoAniYNi5k2+VmtFJrcvovpLZDEkEsI > =izYY > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP - No Tranlation-XX files in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ ?
I had a quick look and I think the patch below is the right answer. At least the cronlog output complains about unknown directory "jessie" and that error comes from this script. Lets see how it goes today. --- a/ddtp-dinstall/checks/ddtp_i18n_check.sh +++ b/ddtp-dinstall/checks/ddtp_i18n_check.sh @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ elif [ ! -d "$PACKAGES_LISTS_DIR" ]; then usage fi -#STABLE="squeeze" -TESTING="wheezy" +#STABLE="wheezy" +TESTING="jessie" UNSTABLE="sid" # Original SHA256SUMS, generated by i18n.debian.net On 14 May 2013 07:05, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Beatrice Torracca (beatri...@libero.it): > > Hello, > > > > I noticed that there aren't any files of the traslated package > > desriptions (eg. Translation-it) in > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/ > > > > but there are in the corresponding directory for sid and stabel. > > > > Is it right? No translations for those using Testing? > > > > Ciao, > > beatrice > > > > P.S. I might be missing something obvious *g* > > We currently have something that's is going wrong with the scripts > that run on churro, generate what's expected by the ftpmaster machine > that grabs them 3 times a day. > > I tried to have a look at these scripts last weekend and found out > very obvious places where "jessie" had to be defined but it seems that > my changes were not enough to make things work. > > This magic between churro and the ftpmaster machine is something that > was setup by Felipe and Nicolas a few years ago and, well, it not > completely obvious..:-) > > As usual, when the magic behing the DDTP is working, everything does > well, but when something breaks, we're desperately in need of someone > who can fix it. > > Trying again to CC Felipe or Nicolas, in case one of them notices this > mail > > > -- > > > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
FWIW, there appears to be some kind of dodgy description somewhere throwing a spanner in the works. I hope to get a look at the problem in the coming days... Have a nice day, On 12 May 2013 22:06, Debian FTP Masters wrote: > Arf, Arf, Arf, missing the timestamp 201305040839 directory, not updating > i18n, arf, arf, arf > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 28 February 2013 23:52, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: >>> Sounds like we have yet another glitch. churro has a few network >>> outages on Feb 23rd and it seems that ftpmasters scripts are >>> indirectly affected by this. >>> >>> Each time, I never remember what exactly needs to be fixed..:-) >>> >> >> Just for the record. The latest statistics update is from >> 25-Feb-2013 14:28. > > Well, the cronjob isn't getting run, no idea why. It's listed in > /etc/cron.d/ddtp and /var/log/cron.log shows it being started, yet no > log files are created in /org/ddtp.debian.net/cronlog. Running the > update script by hand however does generate the log files. > > I've restarted the cron daemon, maybe that will help... Ok, it turned out to be even easier, /tmp was full... The next update run is within an hour, so we'll see soon enough if it helps... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Lisa, if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.
On 28 February 2013 15:50, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > >>> Arf, Arf, Arf, missing the timestamp 201302230835 directory, not updating >>> i18n, arf, arf, arf >>> >> >> Sounds like we have yet another glitch. churro has a few network >> outages on Feb 23rd and it seems that ftpmasters scripts are >> indirectly affected by this. >> >> Each time, I never remember what exactly needs to be fixed..:-) >> > > Just for the record. The latest statistics update is from > 25-Feb-2013 14:28. Well, the cronjob isn't getting run, no idea why. It's listed in /etc/cron.d/ddtp and /var/log/cron.log shows it being started, yet no log files are created in /org/ddtp.debian.net/cronlog. Running the update script by hand however does generate the log files. I've restarted the cron daemon, maybe that will help... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Churro - bad entries in DDTP database
On 20 February 2013 23:12, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > I'll see if I can cleanup the database again. Ok, done. And thanks to the quick report I was able to analyse the system while in the broken state which led to the discovery of a simple typo causing the system to lose all the Translation-en files whenever ftp.debian.de is unreachable. This should hopefully prevent this particular problem from happening again. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Churro - bad entries in DDTP database
On 20 February 2013 11:16, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > Now I get the following error when trying to pull in something into the > DDTSS. > (For better readability I put line feeds before the # characters.) > The workaround comes at the bottom of this mail. Sigh. This happens sometimes, not sure why. It's got something to do with the code that handles to merging of the Description & Translation-en files. I thought I'd put a failsafe in to detect this and abort, but apparently it didn't work. I'll see if I can cleanup the database again. One day we might be able to use the ddtp-ng loader which doesn't have this problem. Until then... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] http://ddtp.debian.net down?
SSH is down too. Traceroute shows it getting stuck at Level3 in Madrid, but I have no idea where the machine actually is. Hope it's back soon... Have a nice day, On 26 December 2012 11:56, Joe Dalton wrote: > same here, no access. > bye > Joe > Danish > > > Fra: victory > Til: debian-i...@lists.debian.org > Sendt: 10:50 onsdag den 26. december 2012 > Emne: http://ddtp.debian.net down? > > > The connection has timed out > The server at ddtp.debian.net is taking too long to respond. > -- > victory > no need to CC me :-) > http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/102724 > 0.0.1.3 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-i18n-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/20121226185017.81ba80f3fd82389c76f87...@gmail.com > > > > > ___ > Debian-l10n-devel mailing list > Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Recurrent error from DDTP scripts: /org/ddtp.debian.net/update.sh
I noticed these errors a while back and looked into it briefly, but couldn't work it out. It shouldn't be possible. I've just had another look and it turns out to be quite simple. http://ddtp.debian.net/ddt.cgi?desc_id=65834 http://ddtp.debian.net/ddt.cgi?desc_id=131818 http://ddtp.debian.net/ddt.cgi?desc_id=65840 http://ddtp.debian.net/ddt.cgi?desc_id=65841 If you look at each of those you'll see that there is a duplicated paragraph, that's what it's complaining about. I think this is a bug in the description really. As for how to fix it, I'll see if I think of a way to make it work without breaking the rest of the import process. Probably deduplicating the paragraphs would work... Have a nice day, On 15 December 2012 08:05, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Sorry, I've been neglecting this for days, but the following pops up > every day on churro. > > Martijn, is there anything you can have a look at? > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS still not up
On 28 November 2012 21:06, Simon Paillard wrote: > DSA setup machines for us months if not years ago, so the best way is moving > the service it's sure. > > Can you describe the missing steps we need to go through before we can finally > move DDTP to ddtp.debian.org ? Well, from my point of view as DDTP maintainer there's a number of simple things I know that need to be done. Primarily the apache and exim config need to updated to make the system accessible, which is something I can't do. Then we can begin a testing period, fix any bugs found. Eventually we'd need to tell dak or whichever machine it is to fetch translations from the new location. However, there are other problems: the existing DDTP code is not great and the first time we tried it on the new system we caused various problems. There are various aspects of the current system (including the apache config) which are not acceptable to the DSA. The new DDTP I hope deals with these issues. So the only real answer is, no totally sure. If the apache config is updated then we can move forward and find out what other skeletons there are in the closet. tl;dr get an apache config installed which is acceptable to everyone. Have a nice day. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS still not up
On 28 November 2012 07:03, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout (klep...@gmail.com): >> It's annoying that it's taking this long. Apparently getting the >> domain fixed is not so simple. It might be easier/quicker to simply >> setup ddtp.debian.org, since we do have control of that domain. > > You mean ddtp.debian.net, I guess. No, I really meant the ddtp.d.o, the DSA machine. But it doesn't matter since it looks like the ddtp.d.n domain will be fixed shortly. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS still not up
It's annoying that it's taking this long. Apparently getting the domain fixed is not so simple. It might be easier/quicker to simply setup ddtp.debian.org, since we do have control of that domain. On 27 November 2012 22:00, Joe Dalton wrote: > Are there any change of actually getting DDTSS up and running or is it > better just to close down the translation effort? > bye > Joe > (Danish) Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS repo on git.debian.org: ssh://git.debian.org/git/debian-l10n/ddtp2.git/
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:38PM +0100, Simon Paillard wrote: > Here it is: > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-l10n/ddtp2.git > ssh://git.debian.org/git/debian-l10n/ddtp2.git/ > with the current content of your github. > > Now, as suggested by faw, that would be great: > - you can push to git.debian.org > - maybe even the step after, make git.debian.org the canonical place > advertised on debian-i18n Nice, thanks. Well, pulling works. I haven't tried pushing yet (because I have nothing new) but I'll try it out when the time comes. At some point I'm think I'll use the new code to handle the imports on ddtp.debian.net, since it is more robust (I dislike cleaning the database by hand). No timeframe on that though. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > He who writes carelessly confesses thereby at the very outset that he does > not attach much importance to his own thoughts. -- Arthur Schopenhauer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS up again
On 22 November 2012 23:42, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On 22 November 2012 17:05, Martin Eberhard Schauer > wrote: >> ddtp.debian.net can be accessed again for translation work. The mail >> interface >> does not work and still new Translation-xx.bz2 files are not built. > > Hurrah! Though all is not quite well. Looking at the stats it looks > like something went seriously wonky in the import process at some > point and many bogus descriptions have been imported... Sigh. > > I'll see what I can do about that. Ok, deleted some 35000 broken descriptions. I wonder what went wrong because it's apparently fixed itself. It was broken between 29 sept an 8 nov. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS up again
On 22 November 2012 23:52, helix84 wrote: > Nothing here, either. Resolves to 217.124.178.10 but doesn't respond to > pings or port 80 connections. Ah, you're right. The machine is back but the DNS is still borked. I didn't notice because I'd fixed it in my /etc/hosts. $ host ddtp.debian.net ddtp.debian.net has address 217.124.178.10 ddtp.debian.net mail is handled by 10 i18n.debian.net. $ ping ddtp.debian.net PING ddtp.debian.net (158.49.69.13) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from ddtp.debian.net (158.49.69.13): icmp_req=1 ttl=45 time=68.3 ms So you're right, it's still largely broken. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS up again
On 22 November 2012 17:05, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote: > ddtp.debian.net can be accessed again for translation work. The mail > interface > does not work and still new Translation-xx.bz2 files are not built. Hurrah! Though all is not quite well. Looking at the stats it looks like something went seriously wonky in the import process at some point and many bogus descriptions have been imported... Sigh. I'll see what I can do about that. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTSS up again
Works for me. What happens when you try? On 22 November 2012 23:33, Joe Dalton wrote: > I just tried. No luck. > bye > Joe > Danish > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Changing i18n.debian.net DNS records
On 19 November 2012 08:05, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): >> Quoting Michael Bramer (m.bra...@deb-support.de): >> >> > >>We must change the DNS to point to i18n.debian.net following ip >> > >>158.49.69.13 >> > >> Incidentally, I can't SSH to 158.49.69.13 now and looking at one of my cronjobs it's not a new problem either... I don't suppose the new data centre has some kind of remote access service? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Cron jobs reinstated on churro
On 4 November 2012 08:18, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Hopefully, this should help in no longer having the "Lisa" mails and > maybe restore functionality of translated descriptions sync with > ftp-master (as all this is black magic for me, I indeed have no idea). I think some debian machine (possibly dak) connects to us using rsync to download the translation files. So I don't expect that to start working until the DNS is fixed... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS (updated)
On 4 November 2012 11:29, Joe Dalton wrote: > I think it is a good idea to also use the email address. Alias is always > forgotten or has to be changed because another person already has used that > name. Yeah, I think that's the best idea. Not sure when I'll get around to implementing it though. The TODO list is getting shorter though, feature completeness is in sight... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS (updated)
On 3 November 2012 13:35, Joe Dalton wrote: > If i go to > > http://ddtp.kleptog.org/ddtss/createlogin > > Alias: example > Real Name: me myself > > Email adress: a...@a.com > > password: to times > > then Iceweasel ask me if i would like to save the password for the e-mail > adress! Not the Alias. Hrm, looks like Iceweasel assumes the field before the password is the username. Lame. Not sure what to do about that. Perhaps allowing people to login using the email addresses is reasonable, though a bit weird. Otherwise I need to redesign the form... I'll think about it... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] problems with DDTSS and ddtp.debian.net
On 3 November 2012 08:09, Christian PERRIER wrote: > That woul dbe grisu. The main problem is having /srv back. Ok, I'm confused. I'm logged into churro right now and /srv is all there. Maybe you meant is -> was? Or is it corrupt in some way? I've put ddtp.d.n in my /etc/hosts and that makes everything work. If the ddtp is the only website remaining we can set it as default so that accessing the website by IP will just work (right now it defaults to i18n.d.n). But we can ask grisu to fix the DNS. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] problems with DDTSS and ddtp.debian.net
> i18n.debian.net is running on IP 158.49.69.13, the lost hd (/ srv) I have > already installed and is active now. > > We must change the DNS to point to i18n.debian.net following ip > 158.49.69.13 > Right. That's something we can fix. Not sure how it works with debian.netdomains, but according to the wiki it can be changed by a DD. I'm not sure if you have to find the person who originally set it up though, the wiki isn't clear about that. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] problems with DDTSS and ddtp.debian.net
On 11 October 2012 07:35, Christian PERRIER wrote: > And, as of now: > > cperrier@mykerinos:~ $ ssh i18n.debian.net > i18n.debian.net [217.124.178.10] 22 (ssh) : No route to host > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host No change yet. Do we have any idea what's going on? Is it time to start thinking about just setting up a new site? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS (updated)
After the comments from the last time revealed some issues I've finally found some time to fix some of the found problems. In particular: - You can now create an account with a password. In this case you must supply an email address for verification. - Hitting enter on the fetch field will fetch the next highest prio package. With the default settings this with target "requiring retranslated" package, so you'll probably see a lot of fuzzy matches. - The comments on the translation page are now as they were intended. That is, each comment is associated with the person who entered it. - Many smaller bug fixes. The main missing features are the wordlist and the "recently translated". The demo site is the same: http://ddtp.kleptog.org/ddtss/ The source is at: https://github.com/kleptog/DDTSS-Django Please let me know if you find any issues. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS fetching packages by its numbers
On 21 October 2012 16:56, Joe Dalton wrote: > I tried fetching a package by its number > the screen says > > Fetch Package libfuse-dev (39440) > and then just returns to the main page > the package is not fetched The fetching worked fine when I tried it, but it didn't redirect to the right page. I've fixed that. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS comments
On 21 October 2012 15:45, Joe Dalton wrote: > I can create (change comment only or accept as is) and delete comments (but > it still says old comments at 2012-08-28 16:09:13 Reply, if i choose reply a > new firefox pop up is opened with the text from below, I can't do anything). > If i choose new comment (out on the right) I also get the text from below. > see for example: http://ddtp.kleptog.org/ddtss/da/forreview/131486 I wonder if it's because the window was too small. I've made it bigger, does that help? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS
On 21 October 2012 15:22, Joe Dalton wrote: > http://ddtp.kleptog.org/stats/milestones/da/rtrn:da > > 1. line > Fetched for translation Hight Hight libclxclient-dev (3.6.1-4, 3.6.1-6, > 3.6.1-5) > > (why does it says Fetched for translation?) Nobody has fetched it, is it a > fuzzy? Tense is wrong, it should be "Fetch for translation". Fixed along with the other descriptions. > > Adgangsbibliotek for X Window System C++ . > > > I change the translation (i don't understand the fuzzy-part, but it could be > correct, and I like the new way fuzzy is handled) The system tries to find other paragraphs that look similar and this is what it found. Since it's just a guess it says so, but most of the time you probably just need to remove the fuzzy tag. This should help when someone slightly changes the english version. > The translation is accepted right away (or is it?) it goes to reviewed by you > (but there can i see if the translation has been accepted (or reviewed x > number of times) I've fixed the messages here to be more clear. > then i go back to > http://ddtp.kleptog.org/stats/milestones/da/rtrn:da > > the files stil says Fetched for translation, then I choose it > Already translated, redirecting to review screen That's because it's caching the page. I've removed that. > I think it is a good idea to make the translation page a little longer. > the Abandon and Submit buttons »disappears/are covered« from time to time, if > you are hovering over a link I noticed that also but thought it was just me. I've added more space now. Thanks for the feedback, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] The new DDTP/DDTSS
The current DDTP/DDTSS in churro has been offline for a while now which is annoying. This has prompted me to look at seeing if we can get some kind of replacement running, since there doesn't appear to be any ETA when churro will come back. People may remember that there was discussion about moving it all the ddtp.d.o a few months ago. There are, as far as I know, no technical reasons why this can't happen. The software for the website is I think ready, but there appear to be some policy issues which I can't resolve. The mail service is completely untested though. So I know if this can be a solution for the current situation. Then there is the new DDTP/DDTSS which has been under development for some time. It can't run on ddtp.d.o because that's not for experimental software. But it does need to be tested, so I have setup a test instance that people can play with. http://ddtp.kleptog.org/ The most important thing here is that it is *not* HTTPS (I don't have the IPs for that) so while you can login with your normal username and password be aware it'll be in the clear. As an alternative the new system allows you to use any valid OpenID to login, then you don't need to send the password to the server at all. So it's probably best to just create a new account and play around. The second most important thing is that it feels really slow because it's on a server with 300m ping time from Europe (Australia). Sorry. If it turns out to be workable I can see about renting a server in Europe. The system works largely like the old one, though the DDTP and DDTSS are more tightly entwined to work as a single system. They now link to each other where appropriate. It has some more stats, milestones, all sorts of features. See http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/DDTP2 for a summary and details. What I'm mostly interested in is if people can find bugs in the system. It's not coupled in any way to the current translation system, so you can go wild and try to break it. Just as long as any bugs are reported. Hopefully we can get some kind of translation server running again soon. Getting the translations back into Debian itself is another phase, but that hasn't stopped us in the past. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] problems with DDTSS and ddtp.debian.net
On 29 September 2012 18:52, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Beatrice Torracca (beatri...@libero.it): >> Hello all! >> >> Since yesterday evening I have problems reaching any page at >> ddtp.debian.net, particularly the DDTSS web interface. >> >> Just pinging in case it is not a known problem. > > I noticed some warning messages by ftpmasters scripts last > nightand I can't actually reach the machine. I'm not getting any response either. Is there any progress here? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Is the DDTSS down?
On 20 August 2012 08:40, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > This is the problem: > > postgres 7835 0.0 8.6 283784 225024 ? Ds Aug17 0:17 > postgres: writer process For the record, there were 34 processes stuck in D state, mostly exim4 commands, but a number of others as well. > I'm just going to reboot the machine and see if that fixes it... I triggered it with the magic sysrq since after a kernel panic I couldn't really trust it would actually complete shutdown. It's come back up and everything seems to be normal. I don't have time right now for extensive checks, but let me know if you see anything odd. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Is the DDTSS down?
0068 [5176955.688016] Process postgres (pid: 7807, ti=dd2dc000 task=f5463300 task.ti=dd2dc000) [5176955.688016] Stack: [5176955.688016] c2808100 000200da dd2ddacc f82f0d8b dd2ddacc 0001 [5176955.688016] <0> 0001 [5176955.688016] <0> c2808100 000200da 0001 c2808118 c108d9d3 [5176955.688016] Call Trace: [5176955.688016] [] ? xfs_vm_releasepage+0x46/0x96 [xfs] [5176955.688016] [] ? try_to_release_page+0x2f/0x3d [5176955.688016] [] ? shrink_page_list+0x437/0x585 [5176955.688016] [] ? shrink_list+0x38e/0x61b [5176955.688016] [] ? shrink_zone+0x225/0x2c8 [5176955.688016] [] ? xfs_iomap+0x2dc/0x312 [xfs] [5176955.688016] [] ? try_to_free_pages+0x1f6/0x31a [5176955.688016] [] ? isolate_pages_global+0x0/0x1bc [5176955.688016] [] ? __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x302/0x4d9 [5176955.688016] [] ? grab_cache_page_write_begin+0x50/0x88 [5176955.688016] [] ? block_write_begin+0x2b/0xc6 [5176955.688016] [] ? xfs_vm_write_begin+0x29/0x2d [xfs] [5176955.688016] [] ? xfs_get_blocks+0x0/0x15 [xfs] [5176955.688016] [] ? generic_file_buffered_write+0xd0/0x21d [5176955.688016] [] ? xfs_write+0x47b/0x6d8 [xfs] [5176955.688016] [] ? blk_peek_request+0x142/0x150 [5176955.688016] [] ? scsi_dispatch_cmd+0x185/0x1e5 [scsi_mod] [5176955.688016] [] ? xfs_file_aio_write+0x5a/0x61 [xfs] [5176955.688016] [] ? do_sync_write+0xc0/0x107 [5176955.688016] [] ? sched_slice+0x67/0x7f [5176955.688016] [] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x2d [5176955.688016] [] ? fsnotify_modify+0x5a/0x61 [5176955.688016] [] ? security_file_permission+0xc/0xd [5176955.688016] [] ? do_sync_write+0x0/0x107 [5176955.688016] [] ? vfs_write+0x7e/0xd6 [5176955.688016] [] ? sys_write+0x3c/0x63 [5176955.688016] [] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28 [5176955.688016] Code: 89 d6 53 8b 7c 24 10 89 c3 c7 07 00 00 00 00 c7 01 00 00 00 00 c7 02 00 00 00 00 8b 00 f6 c4 08 75 04 0f 0b eb fe 8b 5b 0c 89 da <8b> 02 a8 01 74 0c a8 20 75 08 c7 01 01 00 00 00 eb 18 f6 c4 40 [5176955.688016] EIP: [] xfs_count_page_state+0x2d/0x62 [xfs] SS:ESP 0068:dd2dda8c [5176955.688016] CR2: 00c45040 [5176955.696118] ---[ end trace c865c8db94e1bb98 ]--- I'm just going to reboot the machine and see if that fixes it... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Stopped mirror on churro
On Aug 18, 2012 7:59 AM, "Christian PERRIER" wrote: > > I just stopped the daily mirror on churro. It shouldn't be needed > anymore. > > > (from my understanding, it's not needed by the DDTP) > I'm not sure what was mirrored, but the ddtp downloads the packags files itself each day. Have a nice day, Martijn ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP email archaeology
In my efforts to make graphs based on creation date I've managed to make the attached image. It looks as far as my eye can tell the same as the existing images, but cleaner. The strange bumps you see, I thought they were artifacts of the process, but it turns out a lot of packages were removed from the archive at that time. But it occurred to me that if people still had old mailboxes lying around from before August 2006 I'd be able to use them to extend the graphs further left than what we have now. So here is a request for people who have such really old mailboxes lying around, if you have email to pd...@ddtp.debian.net from before August 2006, I'm interested in them. Don't send them to the mailing list. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ <>___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP stats/graphs
On 15 August 2012 22:59, Joe Dalton wrote: > this information is calculated at one point (on the fly), but isn't it > possible to run this code e.g. once a month for a number of chosen languages, > register for each package yes or no for translated for a language and then > calculate for all no-answers either the number of translations in other > languages or a count for not translated. That list can then be sorted showing > the desired list. Yeah, it wouldn't be too difficult. I'm not sure if it's going to get to the top of my todo list anytime soon. But we shall see. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP stats/graphs
On 12 August 2012 23:56, Joe Dalton wrote: > You could mark the pages/data with an expire date. e.g. this page is going > to be deleted on 2014-12 (then the guys or girls around at that time can > remove them without being afraid deleting something to be saved for a longer > period. Well, the graph is all there is, a list of numbers. I can put it on a legacy 'we don't know what there numbers mean" page. > But the last figure must be influenced somehow. As i understand the figure > is all translated packets through time? (but perhaps I'm wrong on this one). > And as packets translated before 2006 is no longer in the data set, it must > end up as a lower number? That number is just the result of a "select count(*) from table where language" query, so that number won't change. The numbers from before 2006 are from an unknown script that we don't know what it did. Essentially it will look like in 2006 lots of translations came out of nowhere, which is what happened since there was an import of the old translations. >> I'm looking for a list of the 200 most translated package >> descriptions which does NOT have a Danish translation. >> >> Can anybody make such a list? > > I like the idea very much! > Any other metrics like this people can think of? > > Rationale: packages with good translation support are easier to add new > translations to as you can use the work from other languages to build > your translation (I tend to use nn, nb, da, de when I do sv for > instance). And packages with good translation support generally have > maintainers that are easy to work with when it comes to translations =) Cross language statistics are something we don't have yet. But it seems that "descriptions translated in X but not Y" would be interesting to track. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP stats/graphs
On 12 August 2012 20:07, Joe Dalton wrote: > maybe the graphs could be saved on an archive page? If someone is interested > in still having them around? I see people like looking at the pre-2006 data, even though it's quite meaningless... Oh well, I'll see what I can do. > Are we still going to see some kind of total as today? > > 36824 package descriptions are active; Yes, you'll see all the information you see now (except perhaps the one in brackets as noted in other email). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP stats/graphs
On 12 August 2012 18:52, helix84 wrote: > I like to look at them from time to time to see what progress we made. > So I'm not looking for exact data, just the nice graph. It would be a > pity to lose the old data - could it be converted somehow (even if the > metrics wouldn't be exactly the same) and drawn in the same graph with > the new data? I'm not sure what the old data is worth. AFAICT the data before 2006 is completely bogus. Exactly how did hundreds of thousands of translations go missing in a year? Yeah, the DDTP had some issues then, but that doesn't destroy data. What seems more likely to me is that the graphs were measuring something else entirely. And even if they were measuring the right thing, I don't understand the added value, other than showing that something broke? They certainly bear no relation to now. We can keep the graphs for posterity, but the data is useless for further processing. > Since you're talking about that page, I always wondered what those > numbers really mean (a legend): > lang sk has 2623 (516) active translations from 5282 translations; > And why there are often sudden drops, not gaps. Yeah, I keep wondering about those too. /me digs through the source... The last one is how many descriptions are translated, the first is how many of those are active in sid. The one in the brackets is mysterious, it's the result of the following query: SELECT count(package) FROM description_tb WHERE description_id in (SELECT description_id FROM active_tb) and description_id not in (SELECT description_id FROM translation_tb WHERE description_id in (SELECT description_id FROM active_tb) and language='$lang') and package in (SELECT package FROM description_tb WHERE description_id in (SELECT description_id FROM translation_tb WHERE language='$lang') GROUP BY package); Frankly, I have no idea what this is doing, but somebody clearly thought it important enough to include. I'd suggest ignoring it. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
[Debian-l10n-devel] DDTP stats/graphs
Hoi, On the front page of ddtp.debian.net there are a number of graphs. http://ddtp.debian.net/ These graphs are, um, a little weird, as the underlying data is just a bunch of text files and due to various issues with the database over the years they fluctuate a bit. What I'm proposing is the replace the graph data with the tracking of the creation time of a translation. With this information the graphs could be created on the fly and we could make many more kinds of graphs. In particular, the volume information needed to make the graphs relating to milestones is making the debian-admins nervous. Tracking the timestamp of translations would make this redundant as it could be generated on the fly. So: Pros: - more kinds of graphs possible (progress per section, for example) - less susceptible to temporary database problems - takes less disk space - seems like information we'd like to track anyway Cons: - no longer immutable - we don't have the info now so it has to be guessed. I only have enough information to accurately estimate back to August 2006, so we'd lose any graphs from before then. But looking at the graphs I don't think I trust the current data before then anyway. - not really auditable, but I don't think people really expected it to be. Adding the information I don't think is controversial, I guess the question is more whether we want to keep the old data. Do people even care about the graphs? Any comments/thoughts? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ Debian-l10n-devel mailing list Debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-l10n-devel
