Re: d-i pre-rc2 has support for russian installation broken

2004-10-08 Пенетрантность Christian Perrier
 I've got it. As far as I see that, the necessary changes for russian have
 been in both base-config and languagechooser. The changes in
 languagechooser has been half-deactivated, but not the changes in
 base-config. Therefore, the tools installation in languagechooser is
 deactivated (my change), but the language line in languagelist is
 commented out (old value is active). Therefore, stage2 tries to use
 console-cyrillic, which is not installed. 
 
 Can languagechooser get an urgent update to the languagelist file? 


ATM, I absolutely cannot say yes or no. We can certainly upload a new
languagechooser, but the initrd's have been built already so using it
means that we make the whole release process slip by a few days.

The decision has to be made by Joey, but he's currently sleeping, I
guess.

So, my proposal is the following:

-commit the changes you think are needed to languagechooser un trunk
-of some are needed to base-cofnig, commit them to its trunk (NOT to
the sarge branch)

TEST all that damn thing. Possibly before THIS EVENING 10/8 18:00 UTC

If this is OK and if Joey is OK, I'll upload a new languagechooser
today around 18:00UTC.

But I won't upload something which is not tested.

And, even if I upload a new languagechooser, I don't know if it's
worth delaying the whole release. OK, Russian is broken, I'm deeply
sad for thisbut if I understand correctly, restarting the whole
process may mean up to one week delay. So you'll understand the
decision will be taken by considering all this.







Re: d-i pre-rc2 has support for russian installation broken

2004-10-08 Пенетрантность Nikita V. Youshchenko
 So, my proposal is the following:
 
 -commit the changes you think are needed to languagechooser un trunk
 -of some are needed to base-cofnig, commit them to its trunk (NOT to
 the sarge branch)
 
 TEST all that damn thing. Possibly before THIS EVENING 10/8 18:00 UTC

I've checked the situation in deep.

Nikolai's guess was WRONG.

In fact, languagechooser currently is set up do use console-cyrillic, AND 
base-config expects console-cyrillic.
However, netinst image does not have console-terminus package, on which 
console-cyrillic depends, so console-cyrillic fails to install on 1st 
stage

So:

- NOTHING should be commited for sarge on this issue either in 
languagechooser or base-config

- Problem is not that bad, because it affects only netinst image.

- I hope netinst image can be rebuild at this stage of freeze?

- It is probably bad that non-x86 is broken (see Eugeniy Meshcheryakov's 
mails), but it is definitly less harm (for debian reputation in Russia at 
least) to have it broken on x86.

Nikita




Re: d-i pre-rc2 has support for russian installation broken

2004-10-08 Пенетрантность Joey Hess
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
 In fact, languagechooser currently is set up do use console-cyrillic, AND 
 base-config expects console-cyrillic.

What version of base-config? There are two and they do two different
things for Russian, because people have been making changes to termwrap
without consulting me; and unless I understand a change, I cannot get it
into sarge at this time. As I've said before, repeatedly.

 - I hope netinst image can be rebuild at this stage of freeze?

There is no freeze, and the netinst is certianly nowhere near being
frozen. Please see the timeline.

-- 
see shy jo


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Re: d-i pre-rc2 has support for russian installation broken

2004-10-08 Пенетрантность Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
08.10.2004  13:36 -0400 Joey Hess (-):
 Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
  In fact, languagechooser currently is set up do use console-cyrillic, AND 
  base-config expects console-cyrillic.
 
 What version of base-config? There are two and they do two different
 things for Russian, because people have been making changes to termwrap
 without consulting me; and unless I understand a change, I cannot get it
 into sarge at this time. As I've said before, repeatedly.
 
Both sid and sarge versions of base-config use console-cyrillic if it is
installed.

-- 
Eugeniy Meshcheryakov

Kyiv National Taras Shevchenko University
Information and Computing Centre
http://icc.univ.kiev.ua


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Re: d-i pre-rc2 has support for russian installation broken

2004-10-08 Пенетрантность Nikita V. Youshchenko
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 Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
  In fact, languagechooser currently is set up do use console-cyrillic,
  AND base-config expects console-cyrillic.

 What version of base-config?

One currently in netinst image. Both pre-rc2 and daily20041007, linked from 
d-i pages at www.debian.org, have 2.40.5. As I wrote in the previous mail, 
this one looks ok for me.

I'd like to see this one (and usage of console-cyrillic) in sarge.
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